Open Thread - 05-02-25 - Hate, Fear and Panic

Do you have a hate list yet? It seems so many do. One can see it all over the comment sections on various boards and forums across the world wide web. Listen in to talk on the street, the hate, fear and panic are everywhere.

Left vs right, male vs female, race vs race, East vs West, straight vs LGBTQX, pro vax vs anti vax, anti abortion vs pro abortion, on and on it goes. Minds are being compartmentalized into tribal prison cells with the intent of dividing us, and keeping us divided. The divide and conquer tactics keep us easy to control with bugaboos about enemies that may very well, in reality, be our allies. All the while detracting us from the real source of our divisions, the man behind the curtain, the hidden hand, the powers that be, however you want to couch it.

That is the media and those that feed it at work.

If we could only get past the manufactured walls that divide us the power brokers wouldn't stand a chance, and they know that. The system so encumbered by greed and power is due for collapse, so they rush to implement a real prison, other than the prison of our minds, a prison of technology. They are rushing to build vast warehouses of databases and an inescapable monetary system that promises full control on an individual level rather than a tribal level. But first they wish to destroy the old system to build a new one by invoking tribal hatred for one another so we destroy it ourselves.

If we allow the divide and conquer tactics to continue there may not be any hope for the future, but if we can get past the tribal obsessions so instill in us by their manipulations and unite, now, there still may be a chance.

The man behind the curtain, the hidden hand, the powers that be know this and do everything to break the binds of humanity that bond us together. Unconventional ideologies are being forced upon us in an effort to break the coalitions of humanity that have held us together for millennia.

They don't stand a chance if we unite and break the subconscious bonds that they have so meticulously instilled in our psyches. This is why the world seems so crazy and upside down, they are trying frantically, at all costs, to keep us full of hate, fear and panic until they can get their control grid in place.

We still stand a chance, beyond the psychological trauma inflicted upon us, if we would just look upon the far side our differences and take back our own destiny.

We can start by opting out of their game plan. Turning off the mainstream media is a good start, that is the source of most of the hate, fear and panic.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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just a little food food for thought this fine May morning.

Life is what you make it, the trick is to make it for yourself.

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@JtC

Life is what you make it, the trick is to make it for yourself

We have more in common than true division, but as you suggest the media drives the wedge. TPTB have used Trump as a wedge and placed people in camps.

To my mind the real enemy is our war based economy.
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We purposely sow chaos to promote war. Those same techniques are being used domestically.

I don't know how we escape this flawed model. Only as individuals can we avoid the worst of our war culture. Where is the anti-war movement today? All I see is anti-Trump.

Hope y'all are doing well. I'm just in after mowing and weed eating. It is that time of year.
Thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout

I don't know how we escape this flawed model. Only as individuals can we avoid the worst of our war culture. Where is the anti-war movement today? All I see is anti-Trump.

Trump is so easy to hate. That is what makes the program work. I believe that people think I'm being snarky/clever when I harp on Trump's history with the World Wrestling Federation. I am indeed vulnerable to the charge of snark. But I mean it literally when I say he is a wrestling villain. A guy who struts around the ring, bragging about himself as he cheats incessantly while lying about it.

You are supposed to hate him. And anybody who doesn't is crazy and/or evil.

Wading through this bullshit ain't easy. But it is even harder for the manipulators to run the scam.

His function is to rev up the rubes, i.e., the marks.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@Lookout
is our main export and the manufacturing of the war machine is spread throughout all of the states, it makes escaping the flawed model nearly impossible, even when we lose conflict after conflict. There's more money to be made in war and destruction and then rebuilding the destruction than there is in peace.

If there is an anti-war movement and protests we wont hear about it from the captured mainstream media. The lessons of the Vietnam War were well learned by the war mongers.

We cleared about another 3 or 4 acres of pasture, now I have about 7 or 8 acres that I mow. It's that time of the year, indeed!

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Love, trust and cope
as opposed to
hate, fear and panic

there is more than one way to skin a paper tiger
understand your points, shifting gears to allow
a different interpretation of what we are being fed.

Thanks for the OT!

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Zionism is a social disease

@QMS

Different interpretations are exactly what's needed.

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The most impressive aspect of the top-down campaign this decade has been the multi-national coordination of lies and suppression tactics of the Covid Campaign. Such lock step activity begs for Murph 's Law to screw things up.

As I have posted here before, part of their campaign is to feed both sides of the Red-Blue divide, or whatever division they have in play. Woke-MAGA. Israelis-Palestinians, whatever.

Their goal is to divide the mass of humanity. Our goal is unity. Regardless of the odds, we have to resist their goal of social dysfunction.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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@fire with fire

well put

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regarding a few simple and very ancient concepts:

Moderation in all things. This rule is probably properly a conclusion, but use it as a precept.

The world is not binary. Binary thinking is superficially simple and easy to do, but it doesn't map well onto reality. There are a myriad shades of grey, not to mention colors, not black and white. There is a scale of temperatures, not hot and cold. Maybe is quite often a more viable answer than either yes or no; maybe, sometimes, some, both, neither, partially. Less than half of a 2 component venn diagram is a and less than half is b, because of the intersection (a and b), and the union, a or b, is the only way to get to totality. There are infinitely many directions in 3 dimensional space, not just up or down, north or south, etc. It is a piss poor amp that only has on and off instead of at least 10 if not 11.

It is noteworthy that one's general age group , no matter how enormously they disagree on some topics can still amicably discuss other matters for hours on end without sny truly mind-numbing contentions.

Binary thinking comes from attempts to control and manipulate us. It is about power. LAW, and worse yet RELIGION. Legal versus illegal. holy versus evil. And these fields are, of course, arbitrary and presumptuous, largely bullshit and, in the end, backed by the sword and little else.

so, really, we all have more in common than not and need to make the effort to get along, and a big step is, as noted above

Moderation in all things

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@fire with fire
it all kicked off with covid and the massive divisions that resulted. The lock downs and ever changing rules instilled trauma on much of the populace. It set the stage for the largest psychological operation the world as a whole has ever endured.

There's mass pandemonium in the future of mankind, on so many levels, so much so that what we are experiencing, in my humble opinion, is the effort of the TPTSNB (the powers that should not be) to hold onto their power and control.

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@fire with fire  
split the half a million dollars they’ve raised with Austin Metcalf’s family.

But we all know that such miraculous feats of reconciliation don’t happen anymore in our universe and timeline.

Ethnic identity polarization is where it’s at and reaps big, if poisonous and bitter, rewards. The next Avatar appearance to ring down the curtain on this bit of Kali Yuga can’t come soon enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Austin_Metcalf

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announced our new director of engineering- which is actually an internal promotion for one of the 5 bosses that I already had. Thank Gawd that they didn't hire some schmuck from outside the company to make it 6 bosses... He's 20 years younger than me, but hell, they are *all* 20 years younger than me. Now I get to go through the process of negotiating whatever I can get from this new structure.

The good news is that he's also the guitarist in our company rock band, so at least we have that in common.

I spent some time last weekend, pulled my poor Stick out of its case for the first time since the fire, and cleaned it up and basically restored it.

I hadn't been able to stomach even looking at it since the fire, since it got absolutely saturated with firefighting foam, and then had the ceiling in my office collapse onto it when the structure gave up. Turns out that that is what saved it- the drywall kind of tented over it, and kept it from getting really scorched. It took a few hours of chipping the dissolved/solidified drywall off of it, and cleaning off all of the insulation that had been glued on by the drying AFFF foam under its collapsed-drywall tent. Popped on a fresh set of strings, readjusted the truss rod a titch, and by Gawd it plays just as well as it did before the fire.

I had expected it to be completely trashed. Ironwood is tougher than I thought. There was no massive warpage or splitting. So, with my favorite axe in hand once again, I'm back to writing songs about the things I hate. Which, at this point, is just about everything. Yay! Good catharsis...

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@usefewersyllables
the stick has be resurrected and you're going to write songs again.

I too, have been renovating my favorite resonator guitar. New cone, new spider, new saddle, new nut, new machine heads and a new tailpiece, every piece of hardware that's replaceable. I'm in a rush to get it done while the parts are still available. The guitar sounds fantastic.

I have four resonators, I'll be ordering extra parts for them just in case. At least I'll be able to make music, even if the power goes out.

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@JtC

to be a bit of a slave to the wallplug (or at least AA batteries) to hear what I'm playing with all my instruments (except for my acoustic cymbals, which were in the garage and survived the fire). The new electronic drumkit has been my sanity- and the cops don't show up when I'm playing in the garage of our little apartment. I'd picked up a 5-string Mexican Fender Squier P-bass for the princely sum of $10 at Salvation Army after the fire, threw some Rotosounds on it, and that was what I had been doing some writing on. But the Stick is so much more liberating, being able to play both bass and treble clef at the same time. My fingers were itching...

Now playing: Dennis Chambers, Bunny Brunel, Tony MacAlpine, and Brian Auger, the "Cab" album. That'll give you an idea of the frenetic sort of energy I'm channeling at this instant. What I want to do has a much, much nastier edge. Kinda like Primus meets Gang of Four meets Pat Metheney, but upside down and backwards...

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@usefewersyllables Pics or it isn't real, the guitar that is.. from another "musician".

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@BORG_US_BORG

Here's the Stick, as well as Kilgore, my P-bass, taken just now. I have to buy a new Stick stand, because the original kind of got mashed when the ceiling collapsed. It is one hell of a liberating instrument- if you are a guitarist or bassist, you have to lay hands on one one day.

You hook it on your belt, there's a strap for your shoulder to keep it upright, and play it with both hands, hammer-ons, touch style. Bass side is tuned to 5ths but backwards (the low string is in the middle), melody side is tuned to 4ths like a guitar with no B string to screw you up... You bridge across 5 strings with each hand, and play the 5 furthest away from your palm. Or not- there are no rules... Separate outputs for bass and melody.

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@usefewersyllables
for strings on the stick. Surely they don't make strings specifically for it, do they?

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@JtC

they are made by D'Addario. Nobody carries them in-stock, so I just order mine straight from Chapman. Being played touch-style, they typically last a lot longer than the usual guitar stings- which is a good thing, because they aren't cheap... We don't need to show you no steeenking picks!

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Here's Tony Levin's band Stick Men doing King Crimson's "Red"- Tony is playing a regular 12-string Grand Stick, but Markus Reuter is playing the Stick/Steinberger collaboration NS8- with a Roland hexaphonic pickup to drive a synth, as well as using it for its own Stickish sounds. Tony Levin is Gawd of the Stick as a bassist, BTW.... This sort of thing is also down my alley, as I love Pat Mastellotto's drum sounds. There are no rules...

Needs more angst, though. (;-)

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more accessible, here's Bob Culbertson playing a much more straightforward tune on the 12-string Grand Stick. Seated, too- you just put a ruler in the belt hook across your legs, and ditch the shoulder strap...

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@usefewersyllables

but going classical.

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@usefewersyllables
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never even knew what a stick was before now
thanks for opening my ears!

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@QMS

It's a cool tool. There aren't that many out there, and not many people play them- and of the few that do, I can count the commercial successes on the fingers of one hand. But it is incredibly versatile: you can do acid rock, classical, folk, whatever attracts you. As a primarily-drummer, I have to say that I can just approach it as a percussion instrument. Sky's the limit!

If anyone's interested, in addition to Tony Levin and Bob Culbertson, there's also Greg Howard, Tom Griesgraber of Agent 22, and a Scottish guy who *kills* Celtic music- I can't remember his name and am gonna have to look it up. There's a new duo called Cascade that I have to listen to more of. Oh, and Nicky Beggs, the old bassist for Kajagoogoo, who is currently touring with Howard Jones. Pursuing this can be a pleasant rabbit-hole on YouTube...

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@usefewersyllables
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the flavors of frequency created by 4 hands
is amazing. Thank you for sharing this!

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@usefewersyllables I feel incredibly lucky to have seen TL maybe 6 times in the last three years, FOUR times locally if I count the next Stick Men show where I will be occupying a front center table. Their cover of a Fripp tune from Exposure took me to the highest plane.
If you havent heard of Brian Kenney Fresno...

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there you go. Yeah, mon! I’ve covered “NY3” and “I may not have had enough of me” so many times since “Exposure” came out- playing those are so wonderfully in-your-face… I think I might even have posted the latter here just as a face-melting exercise, sometime, a while back.

But I slept since then, so details are sketchy.

There are people who use the tool to make art, here and there. Few, and far between, but we exist.. And like all art- some is immortal, and some is perhaps better for someone else. (;-).

It is a tool like any guitar, or any bass: you can melt faces with it, like I prefer, or you can do Bach. And literally everything in between. It is a cool tool, and I’m wicked psyched that you are going to those gigs. TL really is a very special artist, and worth seeking out…

Rock on, and I truly mean that in the original sense! There ain’t that many of us that actually want to go have our faces melted for the joy of it, either… (;-) Pleased ta meetcha!

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@kelly

Next, will be listening to a Fripp tune.

Enjoy, what sounds like Stick music in an intimate venue.

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this encounter.

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@humphrey
they used to be called pat downs, that was a full body massage. I have to believe it's about humiliation. I'm surprised she didn't strip her naked in public and do a full body cavity search.

Just wow!

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@humphrey thoroughly and carefully checked the suspicious breasts and genital area. Twice. And for a third time after the video ended. She loves her job. You can tell.
Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cops.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Thank you Trump, for saving my life

It’s difficult to say who was the very first Republican to complain about the Biden administration successfully stopping illicit drugs at the border, though Rep. Andy Biggs was certainly among the first. It was in July 2021 when the Arizona Republican complained via social media, “Under Joe Biden, enough fentanyl to kill 238 million Americans was seized at the southern border last month. Where’s the outrage in the media?”

Even at the time, it was an odd criticism. The Biden administration was seizing drugs before they reached the United States. There was nothing to be “outraged” about.

Nevertheless, in the months that followed, this became an oddly common criticism of the Biden administration. Every couple of months, from the Republican National Committee to the halls of Congress to the presidential campaign trail, the more the Democratic administration seized fentanyl at the border, the more Republicans pointed to the seizures as evidence of an “open border” that obviously wasn’t open.
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The Republican AG appeared on Fox News this week, and marked Fentanyl Awareness Day with a curious claim. “In President Trump’s first 100 days, we’ve seized over 22 million fentanyl laced pills, saving over 119 million lives,” Bondi said.

According to the Census Bureau, the current population of the United States is over 341 million people. According to the attorney general, fentanyl laced pills were poised to kill roughly one in three Americans — which seemed difficult to believe.

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that led to everything packageable or sealable being packaged or sealed as tightly and securely as possible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@TheOtherMaven but I could be wrong.

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@gjohnsit
during his first term, Trump had cabinet members sit at a table and take turns telling him how wonderful he was. Gotta stroke that ego. Same as it ever was.

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@BORG_US_BORG
the hoi polloi in line and keep their eyes on the prize, that being to "prevent it from challenging the domination of the corporate-financial oligarchy and the two-party system".

Thanks for the interesting link.

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This is true!

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@humphrey and Jonathon Pollard spied for Israel and gave over pretty much every US asset to them. What Israel couldn't use, they sold to other governments, some hostile to the US. Our Good Friend Israel.

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@humphrey

Typical coverage of Israeli war crimes.

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I sure hope I live to see another Nuremberg. But one with teeth that holds every person guilty of aiding and abetting the genocide accountable unlike the first one that let the worst of the worst escape.

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Apparently holocaust denial is not an issue anymore. Lots of people are denying the one in Gaza with absolutely no repercussions.