Open Thread - Thurs 13 Mar 2025 - Geico Lizards?

Geico Lizards
A week or so ago, Matt Taibbi wrote an article entitled 'Farewell to Volodymyr Zelensky, the GEICO Lizard of the New World Order'. It's a good article, but I got distracted by something else. The GEICO Lizard. And I started to see that cute little lizard in other oligarch/politician faces. Like Elon Musk.
The Geico Lizard: from this biography of the lizard! and here's another article about the lizard's origin and subsequent 'life'.
It's not fair to the lizard to say that Musk looks like it, because I do think the lizard's cute in way. Of course, I have never paid attention to any of the Geico commercials; I only ever see one when I'm playing a game on my cell phone (yea, I'm that kinda person ), and I've never listened to the commercials at all. And it's probably not fair of me to equate the lizard's looks with Musk, because Musk is gross and the lizard is cute. But I can't stop thinking of Musk and Zelensky as ugly versions of the lizard. That makes me feel kinda sorry for the lizard.
So, back to the article. Taibbi says, in part:
Zelensky’s transformation from affable populist to Anne Applebaum’s idea of a sex symbol was off-putting even before he started appearing before swooning legislators around the world wearing his trademark wan face and “I Saved The World From Putin and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt” costume. We just spent three years turning a fixable local issue into a test case for a new ethos of imperial intransigence, one that apparently requires constant weeding of unbelievers and full control of media to preserve “democracy.” Zelensky may not have started as a hawk for this global Misinformation is Murder movement, but once he realized selling the idea was a requirement for NATO’s billions, he threw himself into the role with gusto. Now, he’s refusing to give up the part.
Many readers were offended last week by my irreligious attitude toward Ukraine’s president. Those of us who won’t salute this NATO-crafted character actor are apparently “careening into full-on MAGA paranoia,” no better than “comrades” and “fellow travelers” in Vladimir Putin’s figurative if not literal employ. The former comedian is now reprising Ben Kingsley’s Marvel role as the Mandarin, playing tough-guy mascot for transnational bureaucrats whose idea of a good joke is getting Americans to pay to correct their own wrong opinions. Maybe he’s doing what he has to do for his country, but seriously, fuck him. And fuck Starmer, for that matter.
I can't agree more. Taibbi goes on to talk about the Ukraine war, Zelensky, and the way oligarchic powers (most of them 'American' in some way or another) have started and then used 'information warfare' and all it's relatives (like disinformation) to further whatever goals they have in the Ukraine (I think the goal is to keep the war going as long as possible, and Russia, Russia, Russia!). Give the article a read if you haven't already, it's pretty good.
Here's the open thread - remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!

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Happy Thursday!
Hope you are all doing well! I am doing ok, life is moving on. What's happening with you? Whatcha learning? Doing? Discovering?
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
perhaps this should get the covid treatment
There is an interesting discussion over on the TAE regarding a Canadian Doctor who fought
the government and won. 2.5 hrs, very in depth and revealing how the covid plandemic was
being played out by the authorities.
https://rumble.com/v6qh8my-dr.-charles-hoffe-vindicated.html
Thanks for the lizards!
Thought is the wind, knowledge the sail, and mankind the vessel.
-- August Hare
And, Cap'n,
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/germany-knew-covid-lab-leak-...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Crazy...
Pretty sure every government knew covid was from the lab. And hid it. This sure shows proof!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Very interesting discussion...
Thanks for sharing it, and thanks for stopping by!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Was peace the motive for Trump to scold Zelensky?
For me, Trump with Musk and others is going after and getting payback for deep state and other actors who back stabbed him in one way or another. Essentially the first impeachment involved Ukraine and my guess is that Trump hates Zelensky over it. Zelensky was one of the front men for the democrats.
Given the joke of attempting to force Putin into the same position that caused the military operation is just going to prolong the war. Trump is blowing alot of smoke over weapons, but by all appearances they keep rolling in.
Trump and the war mongers may throw tantrums that Putin will not bow down to their demands which means the war will go on until Ukr is totally defeated. Oh, by the way, not sure if true, but Ukr working with the Brits to hand administration of Odessa ports to them.
Unfortunately, don't see the Ukr war to end soon, or well for the Ukrainian people ruled by vicious and corrupt leaders.
Zelinsky was a piss-poor comedian and is a world class
con man, a tyrant, a racist and a Banderite. There is no conceivable grounds for considering him in other than an extremely unfavorable light.
Trump no doubt does many things for vengeanse, but manyof those things should be done anyway. Public officials who knowingly furthered or participated in the Russiagate fraud should be fired and lose all security clearances for deceiving the public, lying to assorted government officials and to Congress and violating their oath of office, for example.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Trump is lying to us
Zelensky might have had the option to sign the peace agreement with Russia, but this war is an American war. Period. We have been arming and training Ukrainians to fight Russia for us and if T was serious about ending it he could do that immediately.
How many people in government during Biden said that Ukrainians are dying for American goals? Weaken Russia, regime change Russia, best money we’ve spent…ect.
We’re watching kabuki theater with T as the puppet master. Russia has told us what needs to be done to end the war. We aren’t even talking about them. T doesn’t need to get Zelensky to agree to stop the fighting. He’s not really the president.
The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.
Yep, kabuki theatre
with trump as the puppet master. Exactly!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
I don't think peace is the motive...
It's an excuse. Trump's playing everything and everyone like he did in wrestling. But now it's oligarchs versus everyone and everything else. If there's peace in Ukraine because of that, that's good. But I don't think there will be, I think it's just a troll. I basically agree with your assessment completely.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
A late good morning...
There are plenty of lizards inhabiting DC and our gov't. Reptiles reign in our seats of power in a figurative sense.
Looks like the deep state is going after Musk, attacking his dealerships, cybertrucks and spaceships.
Tesla vehicles destroyed, vandalized since Musk began role at White House, authorities say
It appears coordinated.
Well have a good day, and thanks for the OT!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
How does it appear to be coordinated. MTG says it does, but I
don't see any real grounds for that assertion. For example, one attack was accompanied by pro-Ukie graffiti, but, so far, only one.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning, el!
It sure has a look and feel of a coordinated effort and a coordinated non-response.
We shall see...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Thanks. Be well and have a good one. n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@on the cusp I think an Occam's
I lean toward the
edit to add: I do not assume anything. I look at the facts (evidence) and then come to plausible conclusions. No assumption of a grand conspiracy on my part, but I can understand why one could be lead to the conclusion that perhaps Deep State should be considered in the mix.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@on the cusp We share a
Police departments have essentially been on a nationwide soft-strike since the BLM uprisings of 2020.
The deep state will only sacrifice their own in the name of more profits elsewhere. The only real difference the Dims have is they want to keep the Uke grift going. They are more-or-less on-board with the MAGA driven privatization/destruction of the nations assets, theft of our so-called "entitlements", massive tax-cuts for the ultra-wealthy, and the rest of the "austerity" measures for the working classes. Case in point; The Dims weak-ass rebuttal to the Drumpsters State of Union speech.
The actual damages inflicted upon Tesla are token at best. The vandalisms are a blip smaller than a statistical rounding error compared to their stock valuations.
I had the same question...
how does it seem to be coordinated? Thanks for answering, it makes a lot of sense now.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Maybe Trump's advert...
for Tesla will help. Shiny new red car!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
USAID was all about helping the world.
All good, all decent and moral, on the up and up. Nothing to hide, pure goodness for all the world to see.
Or not.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shred-and-burn-all-documents-usaid-s...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I can only wish...
USAID was actually like you describe. It's very sad and embarrassing that it's not.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
USAID is/was a CIA cut out
with 10 cents on the dollar for aid, 90 cents for things like color revolutions, maybe an assassination here and there.
Thanks for the OT, chica!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981