Wednesday Mind Bender 6 NOV 24 ~


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There's got to be a mourning after

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In this time of instant gratification, many will be disappointed that their choice
will not be publicized (win or lose) for awhile, as electioneers take their time.
11th hour manipulation increases drama. Threats of recounts and lawsuits abound.
It's the 'new' american democracy after all.

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How did your chosen ponies finish?
Does anyone else smell something dead out there?

Opening it up to the disaffected anyhow. Perhaps the hacked
voting machines had a seizure this time around.

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QMS's picture

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my favored horsee didn't fare so well.
I was only one of 13 voters for Stein in
our little town. But my choice for our state
rep won! Yay, things are looking up here.

If this election was a referendum on the policies
of the outgoing administration, it reads like:
'kick the bums out'

cheers!

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soryang's picture

...and he is us."

This came to mind as a reaction to the failure of the proposed constitutional amendments granting abortion rights and legalization of recreational marijuana. It applies in a larger sense as well. We have crusades in the middle east, christian crusaders telling everyone what they can read and say, rewriting school textbooks, a colonial empire class of politicians, and predatory plutocrat rulers.

The issues haven't changed since I was a child. Their historical roots go back much further. I know this is no big revelation. I still wear my army ballcap everywhere to protect me from the western neo-barbarians. It's my talisman.

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語必忠信 行必正直

QMS's picture

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Glenn Greenwald ~

precinct results from Dearborn, MI:

Trump - 332
Stein - 293
Harris - 81

(sorry, can't embed X)

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@QMS

"She’s done speaking."

I woke up in the wee hours and looked at Huffpoo to see the results and told Sam that Trump won.

She also said that maybe if Kamala had listened to those whose families her administration’s bombs were killing maybe she would have done better. Seriously how arrogant of her to say, "I’m speaking" like their concerns didn’t matter.

Here’s another thought:

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

If you kill my relatives, I'm not voting for you. That's not hard to understand.

In my local politics, the racist County Commissioner got reelected. How do I know he was racist? He was caught on tape calling black people the N word. This wasn't one of those things which happened 30 years, it was within the last year. His opponent was a 19-year-old. Some people said they wouldn't vote for him because he had no "life experience." He would definitely get it being on the Commission. The meetings have been getting quite raucous lately with people being escorted out for having the audacity of challenging them. People are mad and they're starting to stand up. If it's happening here, I'm sure it's happening elsewhere.

I think that everyone I voted for lost.

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@Enchantress
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although I hear the lead councilman entrenched for years
got the boot. Change is good. Like you, most candidates I
choose lose. Feel like I'm from another universe sometimes.

thanks for posting

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two organizations and one person. The one person is Chuck Schumer (D Wall Street and Tel Aviv), who needs to go. The organizations are the DSCC and DNC. Guess I should add in DCCC also.

Does anyone know if Lauren Boebert won last night? I ask because her opponent was receiving NO support from the DCCC. None, as I understand it.

Consider the list of good, capable people who have been disrespected and disregarded by the national Democratic Party. Donna Edwards. Admiral Sestak. to name two who come immediately to mind. Ms. Edwards should be in Congress right now, working for the good of all of us. Guess she wasn't "sound" on Israel.

What I mostly take away from last night's loss is the public is fed up with the spending of our national wealth on foreign wars. As am I. If you are a member of the Middle European diaspora and you hate Russia, you need to understand that the rest of us Americans don't share your hatred, and we don't think we should be spending money on middle European or MidEast wars.

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@Nastarana
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perhaps this *ss whipping will make a few wake up
just wresting control from a couple branches may be
sobering? Probably not. Shake the tree.

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@Nastarana

With respect to the Presidential race, I am reminded of the following Harry Truman quote, from his May 17, 1952 address to the National Convention Banquet of the Americans for Democratic Action: it definitely applies to this election.

"The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time..."

https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/public-papers/129/address-national...

I was apparently one of 834 people in my county that voted for Stein- at the moment, the Green ticket is at 0.42% statewide, or 10,622 votes. That is a bit better than Howie did in 2020 at ~8.1k, but it still isn't much. By comparison, the RFKjr ticket pulled 1.01%, at 25,437. The Libertarian ticket pulled 15,308, or 0.61%. But they are "still counting", of course...

At least it is over. The bad news, as always, is that the 2028 race starts today.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

Lookout's picture

I was one of 14 people in our county to vote for Jill (out of about 13,000 votes cast).

How America Became Unburdened By What Has Been
We’ll see many articles on Trump’s clean sweep win in the days to come. Here’s Andrew Korybko’s interpretation of events...

Glenn's statement is worth consideration...
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Thanks for the OT! Off to tend to several chores...

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout @Lookout All our lives we have heard constant yammering about the "awesome power" of the Presidency and the ability of POTUS to blow up the world. I always was skeptical of this commonly repeated notion, which was the basis for the infamous LBJ political ad called "Flowers."

So was my old high school and college debate partner -- who was himself wacky as all get-out. He imagined, as of the Reagan years, a new President who takes the oath of office and then immediately starts asking, "Where is The Button?" Great comedic premise! This possibility makes for a plausible rationale for the Permanent Government to "protect the Republic" from the vagaries of democracy which includes the "threat" of some whack job like The Donald from putting an end to the human experiment.

I can imagine a lifetime spook determining that JFK's refusal to go to war over Cuba was suicidal madness for our society. Two generations later, this ad hoc coup d'etat has become the Status Quo, and Biden has been a figurehead whose senility has no operational effect, because the govenment runs itself.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

Trump has a perfect record when running against a woman.
Biden, if he is cognizant, must be feeling a certain revenge.
Can't wait to hear Clinton's assessment of this outcome.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp
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Clinton is like a broken record.
She will blame it on the Russians.
Is it too much to expect to keep the
microphones away from those two?

thanks for bopping by!

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@QMS

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

when "Moscow" comes up on the Caller ID, amirite?

I personally find the entire concept of Russian operatives calling in bomb threats to some random precinct to be beyond laughable- this truly does not pass the smell test. But the blinkered partisans will lap it up: truly anything will be blamed, other than the utter fecklessness of the dems themselves.

The walking-dead dem party will grasp at any possible straw to temporarily stave off the inevitable drowning. I'm glad that I'm not swimming in the water anywhere near them.

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@usefewersyllables

It’s a rerun of Hillary’s loss when she blamed it on Russia instead of Obama for being Bush's 3rd term and going back on his hope and change…and bailing out the banks while letting 10 million people lose their homes because of the fraud.

See my comment below…Biden did the same as Obama and shitlibs went to brunch.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

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Greenwald's assertion that there is an unelected machine that runs the government. OTOH, we have only to review the actions and behavior of the government since the days of WJClinton to find ourselves in disagreement with a lot of that machine's ideology, goals, plans, and actions. I really foresee no likelihood of any real improvement under this latest figurehead.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris
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the puppets come and go
but the hidden string pullers
never leave

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@enhydra lutris If you stand back and look at what our government does, it's primarily taxation, commerce, international treatys and agreements and a large military to back it up. Plus a little bit for us little people. Who gets the tax breaks, the gov. contracts, the diplomatic efforts to open markets on their behalf, exclusive agreements all backed up by our weapons and military? All legal because the lawmakers say it's so, and so becomes baked into everything the government does.

It's what they're paid to do.

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I plan to say, Harris, because she seemed like a nice person who I could feel comfy having a cup of tea with. No name-calling, no insults, no backbiting, always something nice to say, a real lady.

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Mary Bennett

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@Nastarana
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takes only a moment to figure out the stand of
the inquisition. The spouse got physically ill upon
learning about the trumpet. Started ranting, etc.
To me, ahh, whatever it is. Not worth being upset
over.

thanks for adding to the mix!

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respect to our county Democratic Party chairman. He sent out an email thanking everyone for their hard work, then stressed that the election was fair and square.
No sour grapes Russiagating.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

they'll fire him soon.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

After one quip when Harris was selected -- she won't win -- I studiously ignored all the election claptrap until a week ago when I could no longer resist looking at the polls and prognostications. (A long-held guilty pleasure of mine which I did successfully resist in 2020.) Top line confirmed my old quip. However, my analyses were weak in many ways.

One observation from the 2016 and 2020 elections that others seemed to miss and I didn't weight heavily enough was a pattern of polling numbers to results in competitive states. HRC and Biden had met or underperformed their polling percentages; whereas, Trump had met or exceeded his. For me that made Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania easy and doubted Harris would carry Nevada. However, with GA and PA in Trump's column, he had the magic 270 EC votes; so, it didn't matter where AZ, MI, NV, and WI ended up. Although fewer wins for Trump does deprive him of less to boast about which imho is a good thing.

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@Marie1

They keep it as close to 50-50 as possible. Otherwise, few would bother to vote. And then, American's true level of support for their government would be on display for all the world to see.

I wondered why you were so silent.

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IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
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https://babylonbee.com/news/we-cant-afford-another-four-years-of-this-sh...

We Can’t Afford Another Four Years Of This!’ Shouts Running Mate Of Candidate Who Has Been Leading Country For Four Years…..

Kam was asked what she would do different than Biden and she said nothing comes to mind, but then she said that she was going to turn the page…. Ehh? Turn the page you’ve been reading off of, but saying that you wouldn’t change anything?

Speaking with a forked tongue.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

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My wife has been near tears all evening. I was trying so hard to be hopeful and supportive. Now that she was finally able to sleep I can stop sobbing. We will lose our marriage, I will lose my social security,, and possible be is a labor camp or worse. I don't know what to do.i can't handle this!!!

Shitlibs are totally freaking out today because T won and they have believed everything that the Rachel Madcows have told them that he would do if he won again.

Antifa was active in Portland last night and I’m waiting for the pussyhats to make their return. Hey maybe they should have pushed Biden left like they promised to do instead of moving on every time he failed to get his agenda passed?

What did Biden promise?

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

@snoopydawg you, or someone needs to find out who they are, as in, yes, name some names, and who is their paymaster. Because, someday down the road, one of these "activists", will be all grown up now and running for City Council.

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Mary Bennett

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in this 'transition' is who the new presnit will surround himself with
the likes of RFK Jr, Gabbard and Musk seems encouraging
but the likes of Pompeo and other slime does not
perhaps it is good trumpet assembled his team before the
sh*t storm, outside the DC bubble? And Vance suggesting
dispersing the fed out into the hinterlands is hopeful.

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Yves:

Until WOMEN nominees, every Prez loser acted like a grown-up, gave a short, gracious concession statement (presumably prepared before election day), thanked their peeps for their valiant effort, and then went to bed. This idea that women get to act like sore losers and emotional cripples is lame.

The Hellabitch is still being a sore loser and blaming her loss on Russia. I wonder who Kamala will blame hers on?

Bets?

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~ Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

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@snoopydawg

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IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"

@snoopydawg I forced myself to tune into MSNBC a few moments after Trump won PA, therefore the Presidency. Within a couple minutes Rachel was speaking. She was right on message, warning us that someone in Trump’s campaign was nefariously talking to someone in Russia. Serious mournful faces nodding all around.

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be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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will not be able to legalize abortion. OTOH, since this is such a key issue for the Dems, maybe her buddy Joe can do it for her during the remainder of his term.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --