Wednesday Open Thread 05-06-15

Good morning 99percenters!
Gulfgal98 is traveling today and is unavailable so I'm covering for her.

NSA Converting Our Spoken Words Into Searchable Text
Yes … They’re Collecting the Content of AMERICANS’ Phone Calls, Too

Dan Froomkin reports today at the Intercept:

Most people don’t realize that the words they speak are not so private anymore, either.

Top-secret documents from the archive of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden show the National Security Agency can now automatically recognize the content within phone calls by creating rough transcripts and phonetic representations that can be easily searched and stored.

The documents show NSA analysts celebrating the development of what they called “Google for Voice” nearly a decade ago.

The Snowden documents describe extensive use of keyword searching as well as computer programs designed to analyze and “extract” the content of voice conversations, and even use sophisticated algorithms to flag conversations of interest.

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By leveraging advances in automated speech recognition, the NSA has entered the era of bulk listening.

And this has happened with no apparent public oversight, hearings or legislative action. Congress hasn’t shown signs of even knowing that it’s going on.

US Media Shields Saudi War on Yemen
The U.S. news media always seems to have an excuse for the actions of the Saudi-Israeli alliance, now trivializing Saudi Arabia’s open aggression against Yemen as simply one side of a “proxy war” with Iran, a misleading depiction, says Gareth Porter.

The term “proxy war” has experienced a new popularity in stories on the Middle East. Various news sources began using the term to describe the conflict in Yemen immediately, as if on cue, after Saudi Arabia launched its bombing campaign against Houthi targets in Yemen on March 25.

“The Yemen Conflict Devolves into Proxy War,” The Wall Street Journal headlined the following day. “Who’s fighting whom in Yemen’s proxy war?” a blogger for Reuters asked on March 27. And on the same day the Journal pronounced Yemen a proxy war, NBC News declared that the entire Middle East was now engulfed in a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

It is certainly time to discuss the problem of proxy war in the Middle East, because a series of such wars are the heart of the destabilization and chaos engulfing the region. The problem with the recent stories featuring the term is that it is being used in a way that obscures some basic realities that some news media are apparently not comfortable acknowledging.

The real problem of proxy war must begin with the fact that the United States and its NATO allies opened the floodgates for regional proxy wars by the two major wars for regime change in Iraq and Libya. Those two profoundly destabilizing wars provided obvious opportunities and motives for Sunni states across the Middle East to pursue their own sectarian and political power objectives through proxy war.

Two Chinese Warships Enter The Black Sea

On Friday we reported that for the first time in history, Chinese and Russian navies will begin a significant joint naval exercise in The Mediterranean Sea in mid-May.

Citied by RT, Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said that "The aim is to deepen both countries' friendly and practical cooperation, and increase our navies' ability to jointly deal with maritime security threats," but diplomatically added "these exercises are not aimed at any third party and have nothing to do with the regional situation."

Against a background of this week's "upgraded Japan-American military relationship" following Abe's visit to Obama, as one analyst notes, "the geopolitical significance of its exercising alongside Russia will not be lost on the U.S. and NATO."

While it was unclear if directly related to the upcoming "historic" drill, the Bosphorus Navy Blog reports that in what is a comparable "first" yesterday two warships from Peoples Republic of China were seen passing through the Bosphorus, and entering the Black Sea.

Wall Street Titans Who Crashed Global Economy in 2008 Go Big for TPP
As billionaire class and financial elites push corporate-friendly pact, new data shows empty promises and 'job-killing' reality of previous agreements

Even as millions and millions of Americans—represented by thousands of labor, environmental, family farm, consumer, faith, Internet freedom and other advocacy organizations—continue to stand firmly in opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, those backing the TPP, including President Obama and a large majority of the Republican caucus, still have two dedicated demographic groups pledging their allegiance to the cause and arguing the so-called "free trade agreement (FTA)" would be good for average workers and the economy overall: billionaires and Wall Street titans.

As Zach Carter of the Huffington Post reports:

Last week, dozens of New York City's power elite signed a letter to the state's congressional delegation, urging lawmakers to support the Trans-Pacific Partnership now in negotiations. Democrats in Congress largely oppose the TPP, and Republican leaders have said they don't have the votes needed to pass it without Democratic support.

But while Obama has struggled to win over members of his own party -- he has been publicly feuding with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) -- wealthy CEOs probably aren't the ideal pitchmen to skeptical Democrats. Even if their letter hails the TPP as "a catalyst for creating new jobs in the United States" that will benefit "American workers in a broad range of industries."

Fox News mogul Rupert Murdoch signed the letter. So did Steven Schwarzman, who once compared the prospect of raising taxes on private equity magnates like himself to Hitler's invasion of Poland. John Paulson, the Republican mega-donor who made a fortune betting against the housing market with Goldman Sachs, is also a signee. So is vulture investor Wilbur Ross, who spent six figures to support GOP nominee Mitt Romney in 2012 and has backed such conservative hardliners as Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and former Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.).

Other signatories include real estate billionaire Jerry Speyer, who recently attended a $100,000-per-person fundraiser to bolster former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's White House hopes. The host of that event, private equity kingpin Henry Kravis, also signed.

Invasive 'French Patriot Act' Moves Forward, Spurring Privacy Concerns
'This bill would take France a step closer to a surveillance where nothing is secret except the surveillance itself.'

The lower house of the French Parliament on Tuesday overwhelmingly approved a measure authorizing expansive, unprecedented, and invasive surveillance of citizens and foreigners, with little judicial oversight. 

The new spying powers, developed over the course of the last year, gained momentum in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris in January that killed 17 people at the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and a kosher grocery in Paris.

According to the Guardian, "despite opposition from green and hard-left MPs, the bill won the overwhelming backing of the majority of MPs from the Socialist and rightwing UMP parties, which said it was necessary to tackle the terrorist risk. The bill was passed in the national assembly by 438 votes to 86, with a handful of no votes from Socialist MPs."

The law, which will now be considered by the French senate, would allow authorities to spy on the digital and mobile phone communications of anyone linked, even incidentally, to a suspected "terrorist"—without having to obtain a warrant.

Despite Civil Liberties Uproar, Canada Set to Ram Through Mass Surveillance Bill
'This is about the soul of the country and a question of whether we understand what Canada stands for.'

Canada's House of Commons on Tuesday is poised to pass Bill C-51, a so-called "anti-terror" law, despite widespread outcry from civil liberties advocates who say the legislation would allow law enforcement to spy on civilians and violate Canadians' constitutional rights with little or no accountability.

The bill, introduced by the Conservative Party and backed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, would give up to 17 government agencies access to Canadian citizens' private information, including their financial status, medical history, and religious and political beliefs. The Canadian Security Intelligence Service would also be authorized to spy on Canadians and foreign nationals living in the country, while the Royal Canadian Mounted Police would be granted increased power to make preventive arrests.

Opponents of the bill have rallied for months under the banners #StopC51 and #RejectFear. According to digital policy advocacy group OpenMedia, the bill "disproportionately targets Indigenous communities, environmental activists, dissidents, and Muslims, many of whom are already subjected to questionable and overreaching powers by security officials, [and] will make it easier and ostensibly lawful for government to continue infringing upon the rights of peaceful people."

OpenMedia communications director David Christopher wrote in an op-ed for Rabble published Monday, "This government has left Canadians with a stark privacy deficit, and we'll all need to work together to address it. We need a co-ordinated plan to roll back mass surveillance, and restore our traditional privacy and democratic rights."

Otis Redding - Sitting on the Dock of the Bay

Ben E. King - Stand by Me

Percy Sledge - When a Man Loves a Woman

Wilson Pickett - In The Midnight Hour

Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine

Open thread -- Talk the talk.

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Will Central Banks Abolish Cash?

Cash has never been a popular asset with the totalitarian set. It’s difficult, if not impossible, to trace. Cash makes it possible to do business “off the books.”

For decades, with the US leading the effort, governments have engaged in a War on Cash. The original justification for this war was to fight racketeering. The War on Cash morphed into the War on Drugs, then the War on Money Laundering, and subsequently, the War on Terror.

But now, central banks and their lackey governments have a new rationale for the War on Cash: the very existence of cash makes it more difficult to enforce negative interest rates. That’s a big deal, because nearly $3 trillion worth of bonds with negative interest rates have already been issued. Incredible as it may seem, investors actually pay financially insolvent governments for the privilege of buying their bonds. Negative interest rates punish banks that fail to make loans but instead maintain reserves at a central bank. And of course, they punish savers seeking a positive return on their investment.

The European Central Bank has had negative interest rates in effect since June 2014. These rates apply to the “deposit facility rate,” which is the rate on “excess reserves” banks maintain at the ECB. Currently, that rate is -0.2%. If you’re a bank in the eurozone, your “reserves” gradually dwindle in value if you don’t lend them out. For instance, after one year at a -0.2% rate, €1 million of your reserves would only be worth €998,000.

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mimi's picture

news. Thanks for giving us some Otis Redding. Sometimes I think already to not read anything til 8 pm. I should go pulling weed in my garden and look what I do? Sitting here and let the weed grow over and thinking it's more important to know about how all those evildoers grow their weed and make our lives miserable. So, how do we pull their weed?

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To stop weeds in the garden you have to pull up the roots that are underground. To stop the two legged weeds you also have to remove the roots, money, it is after all, the root of all evil.

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mimi's picture

with the roots, my back hurts. i know it will grow back nevertheless. Darn it. I am all for removing the money roots. How?

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By leveraging advances in automated speech recognition, the NSA has entered the era of bulk listening.

And this has happened with no apparent public oversight, hearings or legislative action. Congress hasn’t shown signs of even knowing that it’s going on.

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one of the side effects from the Snowden revelations is that it put everything "out there", we now now how much the NSA has overstepped. And nothing happened to curtail it, so why wouldn't the NSA think that now they have full carte blanche to go as far as they want, who's going to stop them?

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Big Al's picture

once instead of money grubbing pieces we would have had a bigger thing to work with. Instead it was drizzled out
so most people simply accepted it. That's how the ruling class works, they roll things out slowly, get you acclimated,
accustomed to the idea, then they hit you.
Still don't know why he did that.

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On the other hand, we have to remember that Chelsea Manning had just tried the "release it all at once" thing, and the Very Serious People (or Small Orange Sycophants with pretensions to be such) pounced on that as a sign of treason / bad judgment / bad faith.

And a reason to lock her up in federal penitentiary for 20–35 years.

So it may be "assuming facts not in evidence" to impute money-grubbing motives to GG, especially if he was just following Snowden's plan to have careful vetting by journalists in small stages, with release only after that had been done.

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Big Al's picture

Either way, the leaks didn't work. Nothing changed, nothing will change.
I guess we need bigger leaks.

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mimi's picture

the oligarchs will implode, because they undermine their own platform they operate on. You'll see. It just will be messy, dirty and awful.

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no that's just a variation on the establishment theme that the leakers, whistlebower's and truth tellers are self promoting money grubbers with ulterior motives. Does GG have a job at the Guardian anymore? He did what nobody else would he and Poitras met with Snowden and released the information in pieces the way Snowden wanted. They were vetted and that way could be released in newspapers that everyone could read instead of just a massive data dump with no credibility whatsoever.

The Guardian and other media backed up his 'dump' with factual back story and it blew wide open. Julian Assange and Wikileaks have handled major leaks the same way. Releasing any forbidden high 'security' documents to major media/news outlets with context and backstory is much better then dumping them on the net without a 'credible' source. The impact is much stronger and the propagandists cannot just slam down the hammer and blackout the information with the cover of spying or threat's to our security.

It slows them down in their repression of the truth that has been reveled. As far as money grubbing goes how weird to label GG or any of these truth tellers/leaker/whistle blowers as out for the money. Like the Intercept is making Glen or any blogger rich. He's no Markos he might make make a good living off his work but I doubt it's enough to qualify as a money grubber. Just dumping a story that was much more effective told in context and with back up was not the work o0f a money grubber self aggrandizer but seems to be part of what he and other media people who are not part of the propaganda machine called the news are doing to let the truth out with maximum effectiveness.

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Big Al's picture

Isn't that special, how other countries copy what we do. America is such a trendsetter. Makes me proud to be an
American.

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and, the more I hear and read about the latest "terrorist" attack in Texas, the more I think something's fishy. It's almost like someone behind a curtain somewhere is pulling strings to create reality for us. Is it real or is it Memorex?

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Decades ago, there was a long-running ad campaign, based on the idea that recordings on Memorex tape are so high-fideility, you can't tell them from a "real" live performance. "Is it real, or is it Memorex?" was the slogan in all the TV spots and print ads.

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Big Al's picture

We're going to need this. (if you don't like cursing, skip it)

"Fuck the Fed"

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During Occupy Wall Street, I heard a lot of complaining and disgust about the number of Ron Paul fans who were showing up.

Like (sarcasm on) the nerve of these people horning in… on a movement everyone is hyping as being "open"… (sarcasm off)

I remember thinking, "Hey, even if they're wrong about everything else—couldn't there be at least one thing that they're right about? You can't find even one single point you can make common cause on, pool your energy and creativity on? I mean, here you are, protesting Wall Street, protesting the banking system, right? Well, isn't the Federal Reserve Bank of New York a cornerstone of that system?—a place where all the corruption is concentrated, where all the chairmen and CEOs come together and all sit on the same board?—a huge spider in the center of the web that is the global banking cartel? So, even if you think Ron Paul fans are totally misguided, you mean you can't find it in your heart anywhere to say to these people, 'Hey brother, hey sister, whatever else we disagree on, for the sake of the 99% we need to End the f***in' Fed!' ?"

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in the pantheon of conspiracy theories that people are warned from talking about lest they be labeled a
tin foil hat or an anti-Semite.
It's worked so well that most liberals and progressives simply don't want to go there.

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Americans have been conditioned not to think in terms of grand coalitions.

I just had a nasty exchange on DKos where someone posted a diary in glowing support of identity politics and I dissented.
It didn't matter how many times I pointed out how identity politics is divisive, all anyone heard is "you aren't respecting my values".
I may as well have been pissing in the wind.

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if you think about it.

After all, as mislead as the Republican Party is (and I strongly disavow practically every belief that hold dear), it is a Party that is based upon several universally held principles or beliefs amongst it's various factions.

Such as "small government, low taxes, etc."

I'm not sure that I can name one universally held belief that the factions of the Dem Party share (since the DLC took over the Party).

In some instances, the Dem Party factions are even in direct opposition. Such as, the corporatist Dems versus the bulk of the unions, which continue to support the Dem Party Machine, regardless of the treatment (or maltreatment) that they receive.

There are a couple of unions who are on the same page as the free-trade corporatist Dems, but most aren't.

Yet, most unions rally their membership to support Dems every election cycle.

No card check passed--hey, no problem. The ACA "Cadillac Tax" imposed on millions of Americans and unionists--hey, no problem.

I share your frustration, but as far as I can tell, if the DNC did away with identify politics, they'd destroy the Democratic Party as we know it today.

And if they did that, they might actually be called upon to create a meaningful/substantial Party platform which included a 'non-neoliberal' economic plan. Something that I doubt will happen in my lifetime. (I hope I'm wrong.)

*Sigh*

I was hoping (on occasion) to include a photo of a dog that is available for adoption, at one of the several rescues that I'm involved with. I promise that I won't litter up the threads with these photos, and will keep them very small.

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Here's "Guinness" below.

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He's 'purdy.'

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Sorry--I've lost track of which thread this is, but I'd like to wish Nancy a safe and successful trip!

Mollie

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

post as many pics as you like, maybe you'll find a home for them.

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the excellent music videos. I've got a great deal of fondness for some of the artists/tunes that you've been posting this week.

(Like many folks with an older sibling, when I was in grammar/junior high, I was listening to the music popular when my sibling was in high school.)

Many of the ones that you've posted, and "My Girl," are among my favorites. It was a number one single when my sibling was a H.S. junior or senior, and I was still in Junior High.

(And, it's hard to beat the Motown label for music hits/greats.)

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Mollie

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than 'the Inevitable One.'

(Corrected spelling--sorry that this was re-queued in comments.)

Heard that on XM yesterday (Mason). IIRC, whichever poll Julie was quoting, gave margin of error 49% (FSC) and 44% or 45% (Paul) in a Presidential match up.

However, FSC polled much weaker among Independents.

BTW, Rubio appears to gaining steam.

He is pretty much the equivalent of corporate Democrats in most of his economic policies. (entitlement reform, free trade, tax reform, even immigration, although he tries to side step the issue, and muddy the waters, due to the Tea Party faction)

He frequently speaks at bipartisan shindigs (I hear him on C-Span radio), and seems to 'live at' Brookings.

Shut your eyes when he addresses that type of audience (the One Percent), and it could be any one of the Establishment Dems talking.

He could gain Republican establishment backing. Bush has no support--except for money. So, many Repubs are hoping to make headway using Rubio's youth, and the fact that he is Hispanic.

If he's the one I'm thinking of, his life's story is certainly one of the most compelling.

He is, I just found this quote: "My dad was a bartender. My mom was a cashier, a hotel maid and a stock clerk at Kmart."

Hugh Rodham owned a manufacturing company. FSC grew up in affluent Park Ridge, IL. A far cry from the
start that Rubio got--for someone hoping to pretend to be a 'populist.'

[Certainly, none of that is intended to be an endorsement of Rubio or Paul. Just saying what national reporters say about Rubio's/Paul's potential as a Republican candidate.]

Pretty much the reporters describe the majority of "Independent" voters as being less engaged (polite way of saying low information, I suppose)--and therefore, the most sought after by both parties.

Oh, FSC was supported by 74% of Democrats. I thought it was odd that reporters thought that this was a strong figure among this cohort.

Maybe I'm missing something.

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Mollie

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is a Rand Paul liker. I don't think he really supports any pol but he's into civil rights no drug war and no endless bloody wars. He and my granddaughter had some interesting and intelligent conversations regarding his libertarian bent. I agreed with both of their points. He's an good guy and I understand why he likes some of Rand Paul's stances. As a woman she really doesn't like the GOP brand of libertarianism. She is an indie and thinks the whole political system is rigged. She is right. I have libertarian common ground but this current crop seem hypocritical when it comes to civil and human rights. . Glenn Greenwald gets accused of being a libertarian by many at dkos. If Rand Paul wasn't such a religious weirdo, racist and misogynist I would vote for him over HRC any day. Then again he would not be a Republican and instead perhaps a Green. As it stands now it just seems pointless to get in pissing match's over any establishment machine pol's persona or belief system they are either seriously bent and corrupt or totally unelectable if not. Identity politics seem very undemocratic.

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of salt."

I pretty regularly subject myself to these radio programs, though, in order to pick up on articles that pertain to issues/policies that I'm following.

Ostensibly, these reporters are on the show to talk about recently published pieces.

And some articles are helpful, as are some of the Twitter accounts that are bandied about.

But, for the most part, election reporting is a farce, or Kabuki--no argument about that!

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Mollie

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of Nadarite spoiler? Why would anyone who says they are a anarchist socialist return to the Democratic Party? So irrational to support Bernie Clinton all it does is give her anti-democratic crown me I'm an eniveitable bad ass credence. Pushing her left is just a joke.

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"I've seen the pattern and the pattern is us"

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I am still traveling and may only be on sporadically for the next week or so.

I had asked JtC to cover for me, but plan to resume my series on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq when I return.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

gg, travel safe and we'll hold the fort down until you get back.

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she launched her campaign; she has had only one public event (Nevada) this week.

The rest of her events this week are closed to the public--fundraisers.

(Per Lisa Lerer, AP, assigned to cover FSC).

I hope that Senator Sanders will address her avoidance of the media, if this keeps up.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Off and on today, reporters have marveled over WJC's interviews on the Business Network Channels, over the past couple of days. (I haven't had a chance to listen or view any of them, and probably won't waste the time.)

Apparently, he's thought to be giving the opposition a truckload of toxic quotes to use against her.

[IOW, a possible repeat of South Carolina.]

Things like, "I have to pay my bills," when asked about receiving one-half million dollars for a paid speech.

Go Bill . . .

(Maybe one reason she's lying low?)

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If he keeps this up, maybe there will be a real opportunity for another Dem--including Senator Sanders.

Mollie

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all 99 Percenter Moms! (Including those with fur babies.)

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Will be on the road for this holiday, so didn't want to forget.

Mollie

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