Saturday Open Thread - 7/27/24: Odds and Ends

Good morning! I hope all of you have a wonderful weekend unfolding!

Yesterday was deer day. As soon as I got home from work, I saw a buck slowly galloping alongside my yard fence. He didn't speed up because of me. He was the one that stared me down last week. A few hours later, we spied a doe and her fawn had joined him. Our first sighting of the fawn.

Now, I love deer. And elk, antelope, etc., not for food, but for viewing pleasure. Nevertheless, if Mr. Gates et. al., kill off farting cows to save the climate, will we turn toward eating Bambi?

All at once, I had an anxiety attack. Do deer fart? See for yourself.

And what about humans?

Are Human Farts Bad for the Environment? 4 Surprising Facts

In that article, humans get a bye cows don't, but things change when it comes to climate change. We here gotta be first in line for the ovens. We eat tacos a lot. A whole lot.

No human is perfect. We are doomed. We eat lots of tacos here. Con carne. We will be the first in line to go "away". It's the damn beans. What is this guy's excuse?

On Thursday while I was at work, Dear One noticed the bunny in the yard came to munch Bahia grass, then would take breaks, hop over to stare at the porch where I sit. Bunny missed me.

About the beatification of California, as the RW Supreme Court gave the green light to arrest homeless and take their personal property under their tents or in their grocery carts, leftie (joke!) Cal. Guv. wants the allotted a billion $ to to clean up. To housing? Fuck the poor, like, this is a new thing?

Newsome. Awesome.

Let them die? Where? In jail? At least they get fed. Have a bed. Die with a full stomach?

This is an OT, not limited to the topic of farting. Of course, stories about farting while flying will be welcome.

Your turn, friends!

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What's up in your neck of the woods?
Let us all know!

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@on the cusp
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outside the window, that sang its little heart out
announcing the arrival of a new day
4:30 is a bit rude of an awakening
but what can you do?
Find the leftover coffee from yesterday
nuke it and pretend to be awake until the
sun comes up I guess.

Enjoy your dear deer and thanks for the OT!

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@QMS Good morning, QMS!
For the past 2 springs, there has been a parula in the yard. It spends time in a crepe myrtle tree right near a living room window. The window becomes his attack point daily, often beginning at daylight. I can't get back to sleep once his pecking and banging begins.
We have rain today, and Sunday, and Monday. Roads and bridges here and there are impassable. We must go 10 miles out of our way to shop for groceries this weekend.
Oh, well, shit happens.
Enjoy your day, my friend!

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@QMS Hi Capt.

Northern Mockingbird is often a prime offender in this. But a fair number of birds sing at night. Yellow-breasted Chat are heavy nocturnal singers. Most of the all-nighter Mockers are unmated males, and they are usually going through all the imitations they know, mixed in with their own song. Many do a dozen or two perfect imitations of other birds. So if it seems always different radically changing, it is probably a Mockingbird, or Mocker as we often call them. Catbird can sing at night too. Both are family Mimidae, the mimics.

Good news is territorial singing is really slowing down for the year. Here our dawn chorus which is a cacophony March to June, is a couple soloists left. Songbirds territorial singing is controlled by testosterone which is controlled by photoperiod. With decreasing daylength, testosterone production is decreasing and with it singing. So it should be mostly over soon. Some birds still may sing in winter, but usually not the ame types of songs or with the intensity they do in breeding season.

There's a bird,
sittin' on a fence
singing a song for me
at his own expense.
Bob Dylan

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Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

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Hi all, Hey OtC,

You are really living dangerously with such subject matter today... Wink

Richard Pryor

My experience has seemed like there is a great difference perhaps in enzymes or somesuch in human digestive systems based on sex. The male of the species does usually (but not always) seem to be far superior at gaseous production. Not to brag, but I can make 10 sq. meters of gas from a pint of chocolate milk. Damn I sure miss the stuff... Smile

Constipation Blues - Screamin' Jay Hawkins

happy vapor trails!

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both - Albert Einstein

@dystopian do go in the direction of a sophisticated examination of farting. I hope my introduction to this imperative issue was sufficiently sophisticated. Lol!
Insofar as your ability to express yourself in such a masculine fashion, give me a heads up how far I should stand from you, should we have a meetup, and I have faith your gentlemanly behavior will allow me to go up in an elevator first, and you take the elevator second.
No matter what the weather is like tomorrow, we have to go to the store and buy bird seed. We will pay someone to feed them when we go on vacation next week.
Birds! They are a thing!
Have a wonderful weekend, friend!

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@dystopian I looked up a short bio of Hawkins. Absolutely fascinating! Helluva musician! Combat on the front lines at age 13!

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reduced by changing their diet. Most of them alive today are domesticated and are fed a variety of foods. Feeding seaweed reduces methane production. Perhaps other algae as well,

It is, of course unknown how much methane is leaked from natural and artificial sources, nor even how much is intentionally flared.

It is suddenly coolish here, down into the seventies for a couple of days at least. It is also nearly the end of the month. Here, that means time to start planting next season's crops and, for me, time to finish the garage project.

The Democraptic party is yet again side-stepping actual democracy in selecting it's anointed, and assorted folks all around the globe are noticing and commenting, but, it is, after all, the US's internal affair, we only talk about democracy and human rights and silly shit like that, but never tried to implement such things here and never will. Soooo, anybody got a problem with that, huh, huh?

The Olympics is (or are) on. (The Olympic Games have begun, they are called "the Olympics(tm), which changes them from an "are" to an "is", or does it?)

Can one put bean sprouts on a taco? Are they not refrieds in a stte of becoming? Discuss. (How about a tostada?)

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris Nice to hear you are being cool.
Wouldn't "Olympics" be plural?
They have devolved since their inception at Olympia. (Nice site to visit, if you get the chance.)
Bean sprouts are con carne at inception, one supposes. They would be hard to mash up for refritos.
The Garage Project has been epic, hasn't it? And a gardening project next? And here I sit, no projects, unless washing dishes counts.
I have completed a child custody case that took almost 2 years to complete. Two judges, 3 temporary hearings, one final trial, then a long hearing to beat down a request for a re-trial.
I had tried to show the father with custody had become a danger to his kids, needed to live with their mom. Over the 2 year period, he beat his daughter who had to seek er treatment. Prior to the re-trial, he was arrested for beating a female convenience store cashier, and is facing 2 felony charges. I finally got it through the Judge's hard head when I questioned the man about that incident, and he had to invoke the 5th. That did it. Shit like this interrupts my sleep, and is always in the back of my mind. I haven't relaxed since I took on that case.
I can finally rest knowing those kids are ok.
Greta is not only down on farting cows, but also farming.
What does she eat?
Just askin' for a friend.
If I traveled abroad, I would avoid referencing my country of origin, stick with the tried and true identification of my Texan self. I was embarrassed by Trump, more embarrassed by Biden, but embarrassed doesn't do justice to my reaction to Kamala. She is the woman you teach your daughters not to be, and yet, here she is.
I am pissed.
Get to work, dear friend!

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@on the cusp

"OlympicS" implies that there are 2 "Olympic", whatever that could be. It is simply grammatical/linguistic hash generated by trying to create a catchy "brand" by removing "Games" from "The Olympic Games""Games".That's ,y take on it, at any rate

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris but only a singular Olympic competition, as there are no others at that level.
Or something...
In truth, I lost interest in sports with the rise of various drugs used for performance enhancement. The last sport I kept up with was horse racing. And that sport has a very sordid history of all kinds of horse abuse, jockey abuse, and creative cheating.
I casually glimpse at the results of the Triple Crown to see if any horse breaks Secretariat's record.
Now, the failure to select the best woman basketball shooter in that sport in history from playing, much less being selected for the Olympic team, I give.
I got the dishes washed! How did your garage/planting projects fare, Mister?

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@on the cusp

teams is a sport in and of itself with plenty of politics and giving a lot of weight to factors that are irrelevant to actual qualifications . It has always been crazy and hence mildly entertaining.

I still watch some sports because some cool stuff happens now and then, as well as some funny stuff and crazy stuff. Also, it beats the news and politics as a time killer.

My projects are currently at the very slow but sure stage. Yesterday involved several distractions such as a run to a community recycling event to drop off about 1/4 of a truckload of stuff, some grocery shopping, and unloading and putting away a couple of things they didn't accept for recycling (heh).

be well and have a good one

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Was hospitalized for abdominal issues a couple of years ago. The intestinal doctor/surgeon told me that the best thing someone can do is to fart. If you fart, then that means that everything inside is working. So, fart away it's a sign of good health.

Hot as hell here. Then it rains, like Noah and the Ark type rain where everything floods. Then it gets hot as hell again. Does not cool off. Seriously considering moving to North Georgia, South Carolina, or even Tennessee. Someplace where the winters don't get too bad but it's maybe not quite as stifling in the summertime. I've got at least two relatives wanting to move to Florida. Why?

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@Enchantress I have read about fights breaking out in the plane economy seating over farts. I need to apologize for bitching about those guys in the seat right in front of me. After all, I am glad they are in good health.
I have actually checked out properties in Georgia and S. Carolina. Don't forget to check out Oklahoma and Arkansas, two states that have recently lured numerous clients to leave Texas, do a re-start there.
Not sure I would like Florida. Hurricanes here are bad enough. I know it is petty, but I get really tired of their toll roads.
May you endure the heat of August, and have a gorgeous and pleasant autumn.
Take good care, chica!

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The passage of time makes another appearance.

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Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?

@snoopydawg notice how the msm started praising her "accomplishments" within hours of Biden stepping out of the race? Like magic.
She should have been impeached for her N. Korean gaffe.
I am still amazed how black she got from one day to the next.
All very fake. Not well executed.
Hope you and my client are having a great weekend! Keep the parodies rolling in!
Take good care, chica!

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@on the cusp

about Biden being pushed out, but once Kam got the nod they dropped their anger and got behind her. "She will be the best president ever!"

Based on how well she did during her run for president? Based on all the things she’s accomplished as veep? Based on her history as AG? Based on WHAT?

Her valley girl act has already gotten old. The happy responses from democrats is nauseating. Even Schumer acted like a valley girl with an obscene amount of glee, smiles and giggling. Barf.

Read how Kam is a bully who treats her staff like shit. Their words not mine. I think she is a bully because she has low self esteem because she knows that she’s only where she is today because she slept with Willie Brown and not because of her merits. The media covered that story a few years ago. Maybe that’s why her staff writes her gawd awful speeches? Payback.

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Part of the push to keep Biden in was to keep Kamala out. Overnight, she is officially the best and most qualified and experienced person in America.
How she has made it almost to the top of the pile with her sordid past is beyond me. She will represent women's rights and equality, but her own success began with choosing the right man married man with whom to have an affair.
This is exactly the wrong example for women. What parent would encourage their daughters to follow her example. What parents would encourage their sons to engage in such behavior. Brown was a pos for his role in this, too.

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@on the cusp

What parent would encourage their daughters to follow her example. What parents would encourage their sons to engage in such behavior.

Well Barack and Michelle Obama encouraged Malia to work with Harvey Weinstein even after his sliminess was known. But maybe they got promised that he would keep his pudgy hands off her.

Boy did he fall from grace lickety split didn’t he? The me too movement came out of nowhere and died a sudden death once Tara Reide accused Joe Biden. Believe all women became ignore that slut and just as lickity!

Yeah I think this whole thing was planning from the start. Biden has never appeared in public not hyped up like during the debates. His sotu address was fire and brimstone as was his campaign appearance the next day. Then Obama grabbed him to lead him off stage…I thought he did it on purpose just to make Biden look more feeble.

Next thing we know valley girl is the best thing since sliced bread.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg his endorsement. My head just tilted, forehead wrinkled. What is taking him so long?
I did read an opinion piece that said Biden is furious at Obama pushing him out, and that a furious Biden immediately endorsed Kamala as a big FU to Obama.
Opinions are like you-know-whats, and everyone has one. It's all shielded from us, so all we can do is speculate.

edit: Dear One says Obama did endorse her a day or so ago. I somehow missed it.

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surprise me one bit as it seems to be standard operating procedure for the US and Israel.

Perhaps the Druze are are expendable as they are not Jewish?

Just a reminder!

Just saying!

The rest of the tweet:

regarding the targeting of Majdal Shams, and confirms that the Islamic Resistance has no connection to the incident at all, and categorically denies all false allegations in this regard.
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Ghaleb Saif, head of the Druze Initiative in Israel:

The missiles that fall on the Druze villages in the Golan and Galilee are Israeli interceptor missiles, and they always cause great damage to places and lives.

We see every day the Iron Dome missiles miss their target and fall on us.

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@humphrey Bibi needs a war to avoid prison. That is as good an excuse as any.
I always enjoy your x posts, and really appreciate you adding the text for those of us with no x account.
Have a great weekend, friend, and keep the xs dropping in.

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@humphrey

but how many kids did Israel’s bombs kill when they were playing soccer at a refugee center? That was a deliberate attack! There have been many others. Like when Israel made tiny infants stay behind knowing that they would die.

Israel can call others Hitler, but gawd forbid that people see no difference between Hitler and Netanyahu.

Israeli exceptionalism is just as nauseating as American exceptionalism. Both need to meet karma.

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@snoopydawg Most of western civilization and most of the Middle East clearly hold Palestinian lives with a low regard or low value. And that absolutely includes the children.
The only presidential candidate that wants to save them is Stein.
I do not see how I can vote for anyone who feels it proper and good to support the slaughter of innocents of a certain heritage. What happens when these immoral monsters select another people to eradicate for some "reason"? Will we then call them out as the murder accomplices that they clearly are?

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@on the cusp

said that he said that maybe the Palestinians should be slaughtered. They posted a vide of her. I’ll post it later.

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@snoopydawg I sort of received a comment reply recently about my being a single issue voter. Well, RFK Jr. is supposed to be a protector of of children. An honest, moral, decent man who who risks his reputation to do so. Except when it is Palestinian kids. Not honest, decent, or moral, from my stand point.

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@on the cusp

tells me that person doesn’t give a fck about kids being blown apart or starving to death or dying from polio or some other gawd awful disease. Or genocide in general. The reason Israel is targeting women and children is to make sure that there aren’t any future Palestinians. Single issue? It’s the ONLY issue that matters.

Anyone who puts their well being before others….I won’t finish this statement.

As for RFK Jr he has shown himself to be a gasbag hypocrite. After writing this blueprint book to prosecute Fauci he is now saying that we need to look forward. He says he wants safe vaccines and yet he proudly says that every one of his kids are vaccinated…you either believe they aren’t safe or you’re grandstanding and blowing smoke.

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@snoopydawg and tax cuts for the middle class, reasonable immigration laws, a raise in minimum wage more kind and gentle from a politician with a good heart acceptable from that same politician that is behind killing Palestinian babies?
Is it?
I can't reconcile it in my heart.

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@humphrey

Jonathan Cook says the kids were Syrians
and not Israeli. Gee who would have thought that Netanyahu would lie to further his agenda?

It’s probably a good thing I’m poor and disabled. I might have gotten into trouble if I’d gone to Washington…

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false flag opportunity.

The lying Israeli spokesman who claimed Hamas beheaded babies does his thing.

The rest of the tweet:

This testimony strongly suggests Israel’s Iron Dome is responsible for the killings, and that Israeli forces immediately covered it up.

Israel is trying to drag the U.S. into a war on Lebanon and Iran based on a lie.

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Cows, and deer and elk, use a fermentation in their stomachs to help break down vegetable matter, methane is a byproduct. Other things like horses and humans don't have multiple stomachs and don't do the fermentation chewing their cud type thing.

Methane is greatly exacerbated in that we fatten cows on feed lots using corn, which adds a lot to the methane. That said cows finished on corn taste a lot better, it's not just a way to add pounds.

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@ban nock There is a big difference in taste and texture, and in marbling, between grass fed beef and corn fed beef. I admit to preferring the latter.
I suspect there is way more methane emitted by nature that cows emit.
There are many dichotomies in the science of climate change.
Seems most things we attempt to help wind up not working well.
Have a great weekend and thanks for the education, friend!

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@MrWebster I have been to S. Africa, Kenya twice, and Tanzania, not one of those safaris spotted them, not a single guide mentioned them.
Damn!
Your video makes me want to go back, insist the niht safaris show me some black footed cats on the hunt!
Thanks for the video, Mr. Webster!
It is always nice to see you, friend.

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It suddenly got dark and I heard some booming. Lots of booming

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We are gonna be invaded by a Giant Sea Horse playing a bagpipe. Or some other giant creature.

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@snoopydawg with my client, and hope your roof is in good shape!
Our rain today was little more than a sprinkle that lasted 30 minutes or so.
The hope is that tomorrow we can grill and have us some cheeseburgers for a picnic dinner!

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The rest of the tweet:

“About the final painful days of the Biden campaign. It's no surprise that the long-overdue collapse of President Joe Biden's re-election campaign came as it became impossible to hide his increasingly deteriorating condition.

It was the major donors of the Democratic Party who stopped playing “see no evil, hear no evil” after Biden’s shocking performance at the June debate with Donald Trump. They refused to continue donating millions of dollars to the party when evidence emerged that the president was not always in his right mind.

With the approval of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, Obama called Biden and said: “The situation is this: we have Harris agreeing to invoke the 25th Amendment.” [According to which the vice president assumes the post of head of state in the event of early termination of the powers of the leader of the country due to his incapacity].

An official who has been involved in fundraising for decades told me that Obama showed himself to be a leader in these negotiations. He had a plan and he wanted to see it through, and he also wanted to control the selection of the new candidate.

It was already clear that Kamala Harris would enter the race instead of Biden. Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries say her prosecutorial background should help in the fight against Republican Donald Trump."

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Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries say her prosecutorial background should help in the fight against Republican Donald Trump."

The country rejected her for that reason and only the shitlibs and K-hive thought that was one of her strangths. Trump just needs to run the Tulsi debate tape, the one about Kam laughing about locking up truent kid's parents and her marijuana admission after locking up other users.

I’m still thinking that she will be replaced at the convention.

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@snoopydawg is so horrible, so un-democratic, so un-Democrat, where to begin!!!
What is going on? What is gonna happen to us?

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replaced.

Afterall we are talking about the DNC.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/24/dnc-democrats-ka...

Democratic National Committee to hold virtual roll call vote before convention
Party will legally nominate their candidate, presumably vice-president Kamala Harris, as early as 1 August

The Democratic National Committee’s rule-making group established procedures for candidates to contest the primary nomination ahead of the convention in Chicago next month, largely eliminating any chance of a 1960s-style floor fight.

Democrats will legally nominate their candidate – presumably Kamala Harris – as early as 1 August through a virtual roll call vote, the first time Democrats have used such a process.

The vice-president is now the presumptive nominee after more than 2,500 delegates have said that they will support her candidacy in a nomination vote. Technically, they could still flake out and vote for someone else in the nomination, said DNC chair Jaime Harrison on a call with the rules committee Wednesday.

“Delegates are free to support who they choose, and we are glad that they are engaging in this important moment in history,” Harrison said. “As a party, we have an obligation to design and implement a fair nomination process for delegates to officially express their preferences through a vote, resulting in eventually an official nominee of the Democratic party who will go on to the top of the ballot in November.”

For a potential challenger to Harris, the window to file a notice of candidacy opens Thursday and closes Saturday, 27 July at 6pm ET. A candidate must submit a petition with 300 signatures from delegates before 30 July to be considered as a candidate for a vote by convention delegates. In the absence of a contest, the virtual roll call vote will be held on 1 August, said Minyon Moore, chair of the Democratic national convention. If not, virtual voting would begin on 3 August.

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@humphrey at rigging primaries than the Democrats.
I mean, NOBODY.

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in Seymour Hersh’s writing if it didn’t require a paid subscription to read. Why would a formerly well respected journalist (who is probably not in need of money) not want to encourage value in reporting the news, free to all. So what if the New Yorker, or other news outlets don't publish him any more? It's sort of like click-bate, which seems somewhat demeaning to me.

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FOLLOW THE MONEY.
I trust Hersh.

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@on the cusp This long article by Naomi Wolf also discusses Biden’s changed appearance and other anomalies. You have to go near the end of it to see more photos, etc., which make you wonder where is the real Biden.
https://open.substack.com/pub/naomiwolf/p/the-double-coup?r=9h64y&utm_me...

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our gut bacteria tell their relatives which live in our cells (mitochondria) what is coming down the pike for lunch. Interesting hypothesis I heard somewhere along the line.

Compared to the release of methane when we blew up the Nord Stream, farts add very little to the atmosphere.

Where ever you be
Let your wind blow free
cause there's more room out there
than there is in me.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout Nord Stream...
Doesn't get mentioned in the msm anymore.
Move along, nothing to see here.
I gotta start digging in to your WW now.
Thanks for the info and for dropping in, my friend!

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