4 Years Later -- plus la meme chose

MSNBC makes the only honest case for voting for Biden
Submitted by gjohnsit on Sat, 07/04/2020 - 8:55pm
[video with this conclusion:

Trump is an existential threat so shut up and get in line. ]

Well that won me over.
You can tell how much they respect progressives and share their values.
I'm still waiting for someone to ask the question, "How would Biden be a better president than Trump, for someone on the Left?"

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Submitted by fire with fire on Sat, 07/04/2020 - 9:45pm
Existential Threat?

Threat? This asshole has been President for three and a half years. What is he going to do that he has not already done?

Cut taxes again? Build a wall that actually exists? Promise and then renege on withdrawing troops even more often? Collude even more with Russia? Maybe quit contradicting himself -- that would confuse the shit out of the Main Stream Media.

It has gotten past the point where civility and respect mean anything as these cretins run The Invisible Man against Trump -- a guy who has the nomination in spite of his own campaign, a guy who offers no change, and, at the end of the day, a guy who will not really be the President of the United States even if he wins and moves into the White House. Just shut up and get in line.
This spit in the face from the Inside of the Democratic Party is just about the zillionth confirmation of our status as a Banana Republic.

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Don't buy it. Honesty is no longer an option with
the foolish political class. As if we can't see the false
presentations? May they all burn in their own debris.
Enough already.

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Trump will do all the things they accused him of going to do last time, but never did whilst it’s Biden who is doing almost everything Trump was supposed to do last time. Sigh. Sadly people are falling for this hype again.

As far the Supreme Court decision…people should actually read the damn thing.
Presidents are not above the law now anymore than they have been before. They can still be held accountable through impeachment and if convicted they can be charged through the courts. But when has any president actually been held accountable for true crimes? Eisenhower killed how many thousands? Or Reagan for the contra affair? Truman for killing German prisoners of war? Bush for millions of Iraqi deaths due to a lie? And torture… Obama for killing 2 Americans without due process?

People need to change their diapers and see that Trump was no more evil than previous presidents. I’d say less so, but of course the media didn’t tell us his true crimes.
How is it that so many people didn’t see Trump board the helicopter when his term ended after bitching about how he would never leave?

Good essay.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg

that Trump would leave when his term was up, because he'd been such a lazy goof-off as President. It made more sense that he would want to bask in the glory of being a former President and not have to do anything any more.

As to why he's tossing his hat in the ring again, that's harder to explain - maybe he just can't stand how completely things have gotten FUBAR in the last four years. (But if he thinks he's the guy to fix things, he's probably got another think coming. TPTB won't let him. They want things all FUBAR, for their own selfish reasons.)

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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anymore than camp David is or any other house a president is in during his tenure. If Trump was still squatting in it that would’nt make him president. Sheesh. The oldest folks with TDS have forgotten their civic lessons.
If anything, both Trump and especially Biden have shown us that the president isn’t in charge of making decisions. Trump did want to bring some of the troops home, but the military ignored him just like they and the CIA ignored Obama’s Syria ceasefire. Trump didn’t cut taxes, Paul Ryan's donors did and that’s why he kept running into the backroads to make sure he gave them everything they were asking for.

It made more sense that he would want to bask in the glory of being a former President and not have to do anything any more.

This is what I don’t understand. How many years has he been running for re-election? He is ridiculed daily and putting in a lot of energy. Why? I still can’t tell if he’s serious or just someone’s patsy.

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The one common denominator over his decades long career as a Somebody is his shameless self-promotion as a man of significance on television. From the World Wrestling Federation Hall of Fame to a network television series to the White House, The Donald is always telling you how much of a big deal he is.

That does not, by itself, make him EVIL -- just absurd. The Absurdity Ticket is a sure-fire winner in this insane hour of world history.

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I suggest a full read

Turley:

Despite the prediction of Rachel Maddow that this was a “Death Squad Ruling,” the only thing that seemed to die was objective reporting and commentary in the wake of the decision.

On MSNBC, Rachel Maddow warned that the Supreme Court had just unleashed death squads to roam our streets. CNN legal analyst Norm Eisen announced that murder was now legal (at least for presidents), while others predicted that the ruling on presidential immunity would invite “tyranny.”

Anyone reading the coverage would conclude that James Madison has been replaced by John Wick in a new “Baba Yaga” Republic.

In this decision, the court adopted a similar sliding scale. It held that presidents enjoy absolute immunity for actions that fall within their “exclusive sphere of constitutional authority” while they enjoy presumptive immunity for other official acts. They do not enjoy immunity for unofficial or private actions.

The dissent (Sotomayor) ignores parts of the majority opinion that expressly refute such claims. For example, the majority discussed how prosecutors could present evidence in a bribery case that a president “allegedly demanded, received, accepted, or agreed to receive or accept in return for being influenced in the performance of the act.” The prosecution can overcome the presumption of immunity with such evidence.

Former Attorney General Eric Holder announced the Obama administration’s “kill list” policy to a group of lawyers and judges at Northwestern University Law School and received not condemnation but applause. Under Holder, the Obama administration fought every effort of the al-Awlaki family to seek information on the killing and insisted that courts had no role to play in such cases. Yet, in the wake of the immunity decision, Holder expressed shock at the implication of the presidential power. Could Obama and Biden be charged with murder for what they did? Most say no, because they were acting in fulfillment of their national security authority. If so, could they simply declare a political opponent to be an enemy combatant? They actually did maintain, years before this Supreme Court opinion, that such a decision was left to them and figures such as Holder

Presidents already have immunity for murder. Weren’t people paying attention?

I suggest the bedwetters read the damn decision themselves instead of reading what others say it means. Falling on deaf ears tho since the person I’m talking about doesn’t read other’s essays. Impeachment has always been the way to hold presidents accountable, but now the court has given another way if the president does something that’s outside the limits the court set out. That’s why they sent cases back to the lower courts. To decide what Trump actually did.

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Here is the solution for the Democrats. Biden brings a pistol to the next debate and pops a cap in The Donald's ass. Problem solved.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@fire with fire as bullshit blossoms into Democratic government for ever.

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