OT WED 15 MAY 24 ~ Conscientious Objectors Day
Beliefs which qualify a registrant for CO status may be religious in nature, but don’t have to be. Beliefs may be moral or ethical; however, a man’s reasons for not wanting to participate in a war must not be based on politics, expediency, or self-interest.
-- Per Selective Service System
It is odd that the international community only started to recognize contentious objector
status in the 80's. This was after a slew of Viet Nam era guys moved to Canada to escape
the 'draft'. But it is a thing. My friend was drafted under the condition he wore a red cross
but was killed 'over there' anyway. Apparently bullets have no cognition of pacifism.
Wonder if the Exlinsky regime recognizes this in their meat grinder? Israel has begun to
notice some people in their military refuse to kill for zionist aims. Many military units in
the EU are facing similar abstentions in aggressive affairs. NATO is up against the wall.
As is the way of open windows, threads and doors, let your breeze fly.
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Hola, bon dia
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Another beautiful springish day here. Hope y'all can find some good
in this May Wednesday. The lilacs are smelling sweet and the bees are
buzzing merrily.
Sounds like the Brandon team's jalopy wheels are coming off.
Exlensky is mad about delayed weapons, Niger is telling the
military to get the hell out, the law fare against Trump is falling
apart and students are really pissed at genocide support.
Not sure how much duct tape and string can hold them together
much longer.
question everything
Good morning...
I had one friend who went to Canada during the VN war. He was drafted and kept going AWOL, so he spent a lot of time in the brig. We joked he was in training to be a POW. He did finally escape to Canada, and was able to return when Carter allowed them back into the US.
He was a well paid musician in Atlanta, became an alcoholic, and finally committed suicide in later decades. Sad, but true story.
I always liked the poster, "What if they gave a war and nobody came"
Thanks for the OT. Hope all is well in your world!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good morning, QMS, et al!
One guy I dated in college was the first successful CO in Walker County, TX. His family was wealthy and influential, so that certainly played a role.
My Dad had a 150 mile mail route, and all along the way, he networked with poor farmers about how to raise money to get their sons to Canada. Ironically, he was an army combat vet, had fought in WWII.
I wonder if it will be a Democrat or Republican president that reinstates the draft, but I do not doubt it will happen.
A lovely day, but forecasts indicate the heat of summer will begin next week, with temperatures of 90s daily.
Let's loudly object to war today, shall we?
Thanks for the OT, dear friend.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Hey yeah
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object-r-us. war is not good for anything but the arms trade
hoping the sun will dry you out some
cheers!
question everything
Mennonites at least
A woman I dated told me her father who came from a farming Mennonite family declared himself a pacifist during WWII. Mennonites are historically known for that. He did not serve in any combat units but rather was assigned to a mobile x-ray truck. He followed the troops after Normandy but only as basically a medical technician doing x-rays.
Hola todos. So, today is banding day for the Cal
falcon chicks. Link to livestream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nvCVS2TRRk. Not started yet, feeding just ending.
55 years ago in the early afternoon my brother answered the phone and was told to tell me to get my ass up the park because all hell was gonna break loose and there was pretty much nobody there with any street action experience. That was the start of Bloody Thursday; May 15, 1969. A rally at UC led to a spontaneous, unplanned and unorganized march on People's Park which had been cleared of people and fenced off that morning. We were met with tear gas and buckshot. One onlooker, James Rector, died from his wounds, one demonstrater was blinded, many were clubbed and many were wounded by buckshot. The sherrif later admitted that many of his officers were Nam vets who treated the demonstrators as if they were the Viet Cong.
That evening, Reagan sent in the Guard to sort us out pursuant to a declared "state of emergency". A strict curfew was imposed and a fed days later a guard chopper gassed the entire south of campus area, mostly shops, residences, schools and day care centers, a hospital and all like that. Even the WaPo thought that was maybe a bit much. On May 22, during a march in downtown Berkeley, the cops staged a mass bust of everybody anywhere in the area which was totally indiscriminate and arbitrary. It was such a fiasco that they screwed up the booking process and almost all of the charges against nearly everybody were eventually dropped on that grounds.
R.I.P. James Rector, who died from his wounds on the 19th.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thank you...
for your service.
well played
eot
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
The violence of the state against protesters
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is a crime
glad you were not in the line of fire
question everything
Me too, thanks.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
New Caledonia: imperialist France versus indigenous sovereignty
https://theconversation.com/why-is-new-caledonia-on-fire-according-to-lo...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-declares-state-emergency-s...
Macron declares “state of emergency” — the more the elite ideologues of military empire supposedly change and become more enlightened and progressive, the more things stay the same.
From People’s Park to the vast Polynesian Triangle in the Pacific, the struggle continues.
Morning, Captain
I reluctantly stood ready to go, but was lucky enough to be a loser in the SS lottery. Plus my only brother was already there somewhere in the jungle.
Had I gotten "The Letter" I could have invoked the Surviving Son clause but ultimately never had to choose.
My favorite poster from those days was of a child superimposed in front of a mushroom cloud with the epitaph;
"War is unhealthy for children and other living things".
Thanks for the OT.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
was lucky with the lottery too
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came in about 264 when only the top 150
were 'eligible' for conscription
Canada didn't seem like a bad option then
but now not so much
cheers
question everything
Desmond T. Doss, a CO won Cong Medal of Honor
A couple of weeks ago I was perusing the choices of a movie on tubitv (https://tubitv.com/) and stumbled upon:
Quite an impressive man. You might enjoy the movie.
On an unrelated note...
It appears we are in for a change in direction in Slovakia.
I'm sure Zuzana(?sp) is heart-broken as she is now faced with standing against Putin all alone. /s
Be well, please. There be monsters about. (ref: Something Wicked This Way Comes)
Very much enjoying Heart of Darkness by Conrad.
A bunch of info on Sputnik, including
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240515/slovak-prime-minister-fico-injured-in-...
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Updates: all from Sputnik, from their lead article on this
Lead:https://sputnikglobe.com/20240515/slovak-prime-minister-fico-injured-in-...
13 minutes ago
Assassination Attempt Politically Motivated - Slovak Interior Minister
The head of the Slovak Interior Ministry said that the assassination attempt on the prime minister was politically motivated. Robert Fico is still undergoing surgery and his condition is critical, he added. ...
29 minutes ago
Fico’s Surgery Successful, His Condition Stable - Reports
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico underwent a successful surgery on Wednesday after being shot multiple times, and his condition now is assessed as stable, Slovakia’s TA3 TV channel reported. ...
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks very much,
That's really good news... particularly for the Slovakians. I saw where our concerned state dept is offering whatever aid we might "offer" (at reasonable interest rates).
As I looked at the changing political landscape in Slovakia I can see why there is concern by the west. I guess Zuzana is riding a dead pony. Looked for love in all the wrong places and she found out that her sugar daddy is close to having his credit card declined. Oh well, she can always hock her Goldman trophy.
Be well, I think there's hope for the future... even for we, the people.
Happy Buddha's birthday!
If you are going to tell a bunch of huge lies, bolster your whoppers with claptrap about your religious faith. Yoon is a cynical opportunist, sociopath, and compulsive liar. He's fighting for his political life at this point.
Yoon vows to run country 'rightly' on Buddha's birthday
LOL I noted that the Democratic Party opposition leader Lee Jae-myung, a person Yoon has been trying to imprison for years on fake charges didn't attend. Nor did former Justice Minister Cho Guk, who is head of the new small opposition Innovation Party (12 seats). Yoon had Cho's spouse prosecuted and imprisoned and is still prosecuting Cho on bs charges. What goes around comes around, it's too late for Yoon's holier than thou act.
Cho Guk visited Dokdo Island in the East Sea yesterday, and gave a short statement criticizing Japan's claims to the islets as a lie. He also criticized Yoon's policy toward Japan as slavishly subservient to Japan, and worse than the prior conservative administrations of Park Cheung-hee, Lee Myung-Bak, and Park Geun-hye.
Mercifully, there was some rain yesterday and last night. The heat has been a problem since last Thursday, when the aircon crapped out. Hopefully, this situation will be resolved by tomorrow night.
語必忠信 行必正直
Always appreciate
your updates from that corner of the world.
What goes on there always effects the RoW.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Thanks, Soryang. Heh, Buddha wouldn't hold high
political office, for starts ...
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
never thought buddha had a birthday
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makes sense though
jesus was given 25 DEC
although opinions vary on that
the pandering of Yoon is typical
of the political class
thanks for the Korean perspective
question everything
We will have heavy
rains and thunderstorms beginning tomorrow morning, and continuing through Friday afternoon.
We are expected to get a lot of rain.
Water levels in the Trinity river will far exceed the record set by Hurricane Harvey.
I am considering doing some strategic shopping this afternoon. highways will likely flood throughout the weekend.
This is incredible, and tragic.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Get that boat ready
And stay safe.
Let's hope the weatherman is wrong this time.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Sorry about the weather. Good luck with the shopping and
the coming deluge Don't forget fuel for the generator, lanterns, and such plus batteries.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Get thru it, safely OTC
The wx has been such a source of apprehension lately. Wishing you and your community in South Texas well!
Luckily, the more serious weather has passed north or south of us lately. I'm anxiously awaiting the flood insurance renewal in the mail for the la nina hurricane season. We were going to move before this, but family plans changed. Wish we were on a higher elevation. We're doing the one day at a time thing now.
Good luck!
語必忠信 行必正直
Good luck to you, too n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
My home is on high ground,
as is the 2 miles of highway between my office and town proper. I worry less about power outages because my office is on the Homeland Security Headquarters electric grid.
We do not have the ability to get flood damage insurance. It simply is not offered, as hurricanes seem to find this a preferred corridor.
I am worried about the hurricane season, expect it to be very bad.
We do not have a generator, will haul the freezer to the office in a pinch.
Every time we have a chance to go shopping for one, it rains, or some other home project takes precedence.
As bad as it can get here, you are much more vulnerable in Florida.
At least you have flood insurance!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
got the rains here too
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good luck
question everything