Open Thread 5/4/24: Odds and ends

Good morning, good people!

Didn't shop for basic necessities this week, but gas is holding at $3.20 per gal (reg.) in these parts.

Monday was a day of flooded, impassable roads. Then, Wednesday night rains and associated flooding caused court to be cancelled Thursday, and at noon, the message came from the county judge that the courthouse would be closed until Monday. Then, on Thursday, a 2 pm scheduled zoom mediation was cancelled about 2 hours ahead of time due to weather. Internet would have not been a given, since 4 of the 5 participants were in a flooded area. My internet blinked several times, but no prolonged outage, thank goodness.

Well, the infamous pastel colored underwear case was settled in mediation with my client receiving all her bras and panties,and the remaining contention was golf clubs purchased at a Goodwill shop and my client demanded $25 when they came up missing. She got it. A tough, tough negotiation. The mediator was awesome. He understood when I had to go off camera/screen and take breaks.

As I write this Friday evening, mockingbirds are close by, and I believe they are intentionally distracting me. Srsly.

I am heartened by the news that our military base in Niger days are numbered. And in Chad, and other countries in Africa. Thinking of Africa, I will show some photos I took in Kenya and Tanzania.

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This is written Friday, May 3rd, published Saturday, May 4th. Let's discuss the Rafah attack, if it happens, shall we?

And anything else. Posting anything in an OT captures the current events, and we always depend on commenters to take it to the limit.

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I am home bound this week, no getting out and about.
I hope you will post some links and give us some interesting news from around this interesting, albeit nutty world.
Let 'er rip!

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sorry to hear about the flooding
reminds me of the Morton salt thing
"When it rains, it pours"
Glad you are still afloat.

The leopard and lion shots are very cool.
Feels like we are right there with the beasts.

Good to hear the African nations are trying to
throw off the colonial powers. Interesting RUS
troops are moving into the US base while the
yanks are still there. May be a powder keg?

Not sure how many more slaughters in Gaza
will be tolerated by the world community. At
least the students here in the US are making
some noise. Biden and Blinken are getting shit
on their heads by doing nothing to reign in the
violence, both domestically and abroad.

Turkie, Saudi, Indonesia, Nicaragua are standing
up to this senseless military aggression. BRICS +
will eventually replace the UN in international
relations, IMO.

Thanks for the OT!

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@QMS We are a wet and muddy mess around here. My landscaping crew can't clear out bushes and scrub trees for another week. My intent was to clear off a couple of acres before summer heat sets in. Good intentions do not necessarily work out well.
It is very interesting that Niger brought in the Russian military personnel before the US made a plan to appoint a committee to make a plan to run by the military who then plan a meeting to revise the plan and then send it to top military brass to plan a meeting to review the plan. QMS, I can't make this shit up. We pulled out of Viet Nam and Afghanistan without all those meetings, didn't we? Aren't we the ones that are poking the bear?
US is losing its' standing globally, thanks to our subservience to Israel. Hell will be unleashed when Rafah is attacked. I believe that will be the lit fuse.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. The lion looks so sweet, but don't be fooled!
Have some fun today!

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Rain here too, but not in the volumes y'all are experiencing. If fact we need the rain.

Been busy mowing, mulching, and tending to things. The world seems upside down with the protesting students being accused of everything from pro-Hamas, antisemitic, to anti-American. I continue to be amazed at the extent of Zionist control of the US gov't, universities, and media...as though protesting genocide is evil?

I hope you dry out next week! Take care and be careful out there. Thanks for the OT.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout Thunder towards the east, 90% chance of heavy rain this afternoon and all night long. So far, no deaths have been reported, and I hope that remains the statistic.
The Trinity River is the big problem, although the San Jacinto River is causing big problems as well.
The Trinity River Authority manages the huge dam. If they release water ahead of a storm, they flood the county downstream. If they hold the gates shut, they flood upstream. Meanwhile, some neighbors stopped by this morning. They have evacuated their homes, which have 2 feet of water in them. Folks below the dam are getting around in small boats.
Thought you might get a taste of some Texas cowboys doing their thing.
https://bluebonnetnews.com/2024/05/03/tarkington-father-son-cowboys-ride...

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Stay safe and enjoy your time at home. Heading out for bike ride and to check out the river and hopefully some Farmer’s Market goodies. Since I have lived here in Central Texas, the bridge has been shut down twice for fear it would wash away. Hasn’t happened.

Loved your Africa shots. My sister and I had a trip planned to Kruger National Park and Covid got in the way. We are going on this trip this summer and hope she will be suitably awed by the animals. It is heartening to read about the demands the US leave various countries in Africa and the spin put on it by the media.

Have a good day all!

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Life is what you make it, so make it something worthwhile.

This ain't no dress rehearsal!

@jakkalbessie go to S. Africa! The Big Five await! I truly hope your sister experiences the magic of the wildlife, terrain, and culture of that magnificent country.
Our bridges are holding, but there are big chunks of pavement that are being lifted and swept away. I can't drive my little sports car. If I hit one of those potholes, I would destroy it.
With heavy rains forecast for today, tonight, and tomorrow, I figure schools and maybe county government offices will be closed part of next week. It is reported by locals that this flooding is much worse than what happened during Hurricane Harvey.
Stay high and dry, enjoy your bike ride, chica!

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this is just a bad dream

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@QMS our country has made some horrible mistakes, such as slavery, genocide of Natives, the Monroe Doctrine, which treats our southern neighbors as though they were inferior to our white citizens, just to name a few.
We had a comparatively small population, very spread out, largely rural and cut off from news and current events. We people were drawn into things after the policies were effectuated.
Now, we are heavily populated, connected to news and current events due to advanced communications systems, so now we not only know what is going on, we can see it and hear it. That makes us all complicit, or be viewed as complicit, if we do not speak out about the Gazan genocide. We will all pay dearly for this.
Trump is calling for a death penalty for the crime of antisemitism. Has Biden denounced him? Or RFK, Jr.? How about Cornel West?
I am also aghast about Chris Hedges being de-platformed from TRN channel. Of all people, of all things. Trump would send him to the death chamber.
You are not asleep, and not dreaming. Zionists are.

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Annie, the Cal falcon has 4 chicks, link to webcam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nvCVS2TRRk

Meanwhile, one of her daughters, seemingly named "Larry" for "Lawrencium" is out on Alcatraz with her third clutch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBpcBV8XGCk

Meanwhile, I've decided to set up a yard cam myself, but have to make something to waterproof the power supply, and today is not a good day for that. We still need to go out and get a kitchen faucet and install it and I need to fix the range hood (don't ask), but we finally seem to have all of our communications devices running right.

I'm ignoring all news today except maybe sputnik, because weekend = day off. Wink

Sorry about the rain all you texans and all of you stay safe, especially JB out bicycling in the rain.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris or any wildlife live cam, is just a wondrous techno thing.
I won't ask about the vent hood, figure you will wish to rant about it soon enough.
Dear One was able to get outside to fix his boat trailer tail lights. So far, it has sprinkled a few minutes. It is supposed to hammer us throughout the night.
I would post some good news if I ran across any. At least we can now watch the falcons.
Thanks, dear friend.

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be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris Dylan always comes to mind!
I hadn't heard that one is a long, long time!

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has some info in his OT today regarding a possible ceasefire agreement and release of hostages. Maybe we will be hearing something about it today.
I do not understand Hamas giving up the only leverage it has, which is the hostages. The previous ceasefire did not slow down IDF from attacking. Why would Hamas think the snipers would also be ordered to stand down?

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@on the cusp reported in The Cradle today

US demands Qatar expel Hamas if group rejects Israeli truce deal

According to Sputnik the deal is constructed in stages, seen no hint of confirmed details.

Hamas Ready to Accept Ceasefire Deal With Israel 'in Stages' - Reports

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

@studentofearth is showing the world why it hurts them to do the US a favor. Nobody but Israel can gain by going along to get along. Back stabbing is our modus operandi.
I should check out Sputnik more often. Thanks for the reminder.

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@on the cusp breaking news stories. Avoid the front page, browse the headlines at the link below. It will show the 20 most recent articles, scroll down, will allow to add 20 older titles about 4 times. Takes less than 5 min, unless start reading. Or going to other sites for more details or identifying narrative spin.

sputnikglobe.com/archive/

Enjoying your OTs.

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@studentofearth I am happily surprised Sputnik is so available, since our tech giants and government is insanely Russo-phobic. It just won't go away.
Ritter and Garland discussed how the Russian diplomat said Russians like predictability in the video link you posted. I wrote an OT that focused on my trip to Russia. The guides couldn't emphasize enough: Russians do not like surprises.
That is in their collective minds and hearts, their culture, government, and military. All of our CIA tactics are known to them. We ain't capable of surprising them. We do the same color revolutions over and over. No imagination.

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the genocidal Israeli soldiers.

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@humphrey court martial isn't a thing in the Israeli military.
Imagine how an Arab would react to that interview.
grrrr....
Find us some more Xs so we don't suffer from low blood pressure, humphrey!
You are keeping us informed and heart healthy!

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OTC

Hope everyone gets through the rain and flooding safely. Just hearing about it gives rise to a certain amount of apprehension. I've heard predictions our hurricane season will be quite active. I try not to think about.

Sorry to hear about your neighbor with 24 inches in the house. Know what that's like.

Rain and Africa-

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thanks soryang!

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@soryang it was specifically scheduled in the dry season for maximum wildlife viewing. We visited 2 camps in S. Africa, Now, could you explain why, while watching that performance, I got some weird lump and my throat and watery eyes? wtf?and it rained. We were in an open land rover. I had packed a tan rain jacket with a hoodie. I expected some breeze, but was treated to a light misting rain. That was the song in my head for the rest of the trip. I remember baby zebras playing in the rain like it was some party time.
We are shopping for a generator in anticipation of a really bad hurricane season. I feel your dread.
My neighbors live in bottom land, a flood zone. They have no ability to insure for flood damage. That also makes it hard to sell their property and start over on higher ground.
I am on a ridge, and always have a clear way for the 2 miles it takes to get to town and to my office, but that is the extent of clear highways. That is the extent I can drive. Right now, any patient would have to be transported by the first responders via life flight to any hospital. 4 hospitals within 35 miles, and you can't get an ambulance to any of them.
Thanks for the wonderful tune, and just keep a duffel bag packed and be ready to get away!

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This guy is slowly and relentlessly driving a cheetah way off to the left out of his territory.

G C lion1

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@enhydra lutris to see a male lion up and walking in the day time than lionesses. I have gotten lucky to see a dozen or so. The cuddly lion pics are just some of my favorites.
That picture is very cool, EL.

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@on the cusp

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris Our tour had taken us for an afternoon with the Masai Mara in one of their villages. We visited inside a home, saw the cows, jumped and danced with them, and I have several pieces of their art and crafts decorating the walls of my office. I framed one of their hand woven cloth skirts.
Imagine standing down lions and charging hippos with a knife and a spear.
The guides said those warriors were REAL warriors.
If I needed to go to the bathroom at any time, day or night, a warrior walked me to and from the tent.
I felt perfectly safe.
I am glad they are keeping the roads out of the Masai Mara. As the guides say, "When the roads come, the animals die."

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read and watched recently.

First current changes appearing during medical visits.

Is your doctor using AI? Associated Press News March 13, 2024.

Don’t be surprised if your doctors start writing you overly friendly messages. They could be getting some help from artificial intelligence.
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Your next check-up could be recorded by an AI-powered smartphone app that listens, documents and instantly organizes everything into a note you can read later. The tool also can mean more money for the doctor’s employer because it won’t forget details that legitimately could be billed to insurance....
Large language models can misinterpret input or even fabricate inaccurate responses, an effect called hallucination. The new tools have internal guardrails to try to prevent inaccuracies from reaching patients — or landing in electronic health records.
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Ultimately, “the doctor is the most important guardrail,” said Abridge CEO Dr. Shiv Rao. As doctors review AI-generated notes, they can click on any word and listen to the specific segment of the patient’s visit to check accuracy.
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Doctors interviewed for this article said they feel confident in the data security of the new products and that the information will not be sold.

Information shared with the new tools is used to improve them, so that could add to the risk of a health care data breach.

Personally I found very few medical software users having the time to go back and recheck all data being being created within their practice for accuracy, paper or electronic. Trained hundreds and monitored thousands over the years. Paper records did not generally change after an inked entry was made or signed.
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Different subject across the world. How to do a Color Revolution process using the nation of Georgia as an example.

WARRIOR UPDATE WITH SCOTT RITTER EPISODE 66 - STUDENT PROTESTS - UKRAINE SLOW MOTION COLLAPSE (1:14 min color revolution subject 4:10 to 30:38)

The process reminds me of patterns resulting in various political shifts in my state over the decades.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

I had this video bookmarked to watch today. Ritter has been on fire of late.
Doctors would not waste time or lose $ to check the notes for accuracy. Health care is a ritualistic sacrifice of people's health to make drs. and Big Pharma rich.
No doubt, my health info has had many eyes laid upon it without my permission.
Thanks for the comment and we should all take the time to check out Garland and Ritter.
Take care, friend!

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Another view:

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@humphrey That lifted my heart and spirits! War is not the answer!
The NYT will find some way to call this fake news by noon tomorrow. (Pot calling the kettle black.)

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I never saw this official video before. If you do not like the music, turn the volume down, watch the video.

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and have to wonder about predominately Christian western governments who support Israel, particularl Christian Zionists.

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a Turkish public news org, and it takes the philosophical, moral approach in their discussion about the war on Gaza. 35 minutes. Feel free to set playback speed to 1.50 because they are slow, thoughtful speakers, just in case your time is limited.

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The rest of the tweet:

Additionally:
- Commander of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Alexander Pavlyuk
- ex-Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Mikhail Koval
- ex-Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Litvinenko
- ex-head of the SBU Nalyvaichenko
- ex-Minister of Justice of Ukraine, Petrenko
- ex-head of the National Bank of Ukraine Kubiva
- ex-Minister of Finance of Ukraine Shlapak

‼️Of course the most important one is Zelensky.

You can laugh about how it doesn't matter as much as you want.

But very importantly, no one ever negotiates with criminals.

And now in the West, after everyone realized that the war was lost in Kiev, the topic of negotiations between Ukraine and Russia has become mainstream.

Sooner or later they would have pushed Zelensky to this, no matter how he tries to dodge.

But no can negotiate with criminals, they are obliged to arrest them now!

-> This is a hint to the West that Moscow, in any case, will not negotiate peace with Zelensky and his gang.

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@humphrey Where will Zelenski run? The Fla. mansion? He might skip on the one in Morocco since Muslims are being slaughtered by Jews.
Hint: better access to cocaine in Fla. than Morocco, since he has that penchant...

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@humphrey Anti-genocide Jews quickly transitioned from self-hating Jews to anti-Semites in the vernacular.
Didn't take long. Big Brother is fast, fast, fast!
Imagine the young Jewish student being prosecuted by a Jewish state attorney before a Jewish judge.
Found guilty by a jury with some or a lot of Jewish Zionists.
Whatta world, humphrey? I NEVER expected this in my lifetime.

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@humphrey Can you, prospective juror, be fair and impartial if you are a Zionist? After all, these student protesters are not Zionists.
What a gigantic shit show!
gaaagh!!!

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No you silly ****. If you got stabbed in the eye you wouldn’t have a headache. Your eye would hurt like hell because the cornea is the most sensitive part of your body. In order to have a headache from a there would have to be some serious damage to the inside of your eye.

And notice how she isn’t blinking uncontrollably which happens after the cornea is scratched. Y’all have bitched loudly when an eyelash gets in your eye….a scratch is much worse.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.

@snoopydawg scratching the cornea, crying eye, red eye, 24-7 stabbing until that lash is located and yanked. Every 6 to 8 weeks now.
She is full of shit. A paid shill.
No respect, young woman.
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This North Korean propaganda film came out two weeks ago, but in the last 24 hours the usual suspects figured out how to put it to better use adding to the anti Tik Tok campaign.

KIM WRONG UN Kim Jong-un hailed as ‘friendly father’ of North Korea in bizarre new propaganda song – but vid ‘hides sinister message’

TIKTOK SUCCESS
The new, relatively catchy, bop has even become a hit on TikTok and drawn peculiar comparisons to Swedish super band Abba despite the Korean lyrics and all-to-happy tone.

It has become the background music in videos that have millions of views and even seen thousands of US and European audiences tuning in to listen.

One viewer commented on the viral music video: "This is so awesomely creepy - North Korea propaganda is in a category of its own."

As another was conned into dancing along to the song before realising what the lyrics were really saying.

They wrote: "I hear this not paying attention to the caption but i start smiling and bobbing my head ever so slightly and I had to yell at myself to stop."

From BBC

Why North Korea's latest propaganda bop is a huge TikTok hit

When North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un released his latest song two weeks ago, surely he couldn’t have foreseen it becoming a hit on TikTok.

But the propaganda tune has gone viral online with Gen Z users bopping around to the synthy-electro pop.

Most are clearly quite oblivious to the Korean lyrics praising a man who’s vowed to “thoroughly annihilate the US” and launched dozens of ballistic missiles.

“Let’s sing Kim Jong Un, the great leader/ Let’s brag about Kim Jong Un, our friendly father,” the song goes.

It’s just a really great tune, TikTokkers say.

From Fox

North Korea propaganda song praising Kim Jong-Un goes viral on TikTok

Japan apparently sees a similar opportunity to force Korean internet company Daum Naver to sell its interest in the Japanese messenger app Line.

Japan says it’s not pressuring Naver to sell Line, but Korean insiders say otherwise

Since the data leak, the Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications has issued two administrative orders to LY Corp. — short for Line-Yahoo — the Japanese subsidiary of A Holdings, the firm that runs Line. Although administrative orders are not legally binding, they have considerable influence in Japan. The orders included measures for reforming the corporate structure of LY. They were essentially orders for Naver to transfer its stake in A Holdings, to SoftBank, Naver’s partner in the joint venture.

Industry insiders and experts within Korea seem to agree that it’s inappropriate for a Japanese government agency to demand that a Korean company sell its shares in a joint venture. Even more inappropriate is for the Japanese government to demand that a Korean state agency open an investigation into a Korean company.

correction- naver not daum. I use naver's dictionary about 100 times a day. I only go to daum occasionally to read articles. duh

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@soryang What to say, soryang?
Some pockets of batshit craziness everywhere in the world!

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self defence tactics.

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@humphrey the mantra among "progressive democrats" to defund the police is a..is a..uh..FUCKING PROPAGANDA PLOY? SRSLY? No way! Uh...way?...(slinks out the door like a wimp)

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@humphrey Except for trans women kicking ass in women's sports. Or The Star Spangled Banner to get us revved for a game, or Blue Angels?
Btw, was any military killer special force EVER named in such a sweet an Christian way than the Blue Angels?
gaahh...

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Partay!

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but not the alcohol….

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.

Biden has been "concerning" since his first presidential campaign announcement where he said he was running for Senator of Delaware. But Hamill?

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@on the cusp obviously,they get paid for reading whatever is put in front of them, and if that kind of income isnt streaming quickly enough, the greedier whores can do some PR work like so many others.
It has nothing to do with personal beliefs or values beyond those associated with their bank accounts or fallout sheltered investments.
Much more sympathy here for worn out drug addled street prostitutes than these worn out drug addicted actors and actresses who do the dirtiest deeds of all. Nobody ever asks why.

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@kelly at how worn out and idiotic he sounded.
Good drugs eventually wear people down, don't they?
As for his or any actor's politics, I do not give a shit.
I concur with your sympathies and where they lie.

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@on the cusp Coffee and alcohol havent done me any favors.
Except when I need them.
Cant wrap my head around the lifestyle choices of people exploring the living edge.
I saw enough from the cocaine miseries of the 80's to keep myself clear of that hangman's noose.
When you run out of fingers trying to count the suicides you personally know about,
that treat seems a little tricky.

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@kelly and prison took out a lot of my peeps.
Let's be glad we didn't go down that lonesome road.
FWIW, heroin can be kicked, cocaine can be kicked, crack---harder , meth, can be kicked unless it is shot up, then it is over.
Fentanyl hasn't come under my radar, but it seems to be impossible to kick.
Horrible, and horribly sad.

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@on the cusp We have folks nodding over on street corners. Havent seen any lately, though. I walked up to the Needle Exchange a few years ago to deliver some food. Young lady asked me if I was there for a Fentanyl test kit? One of my two or three remaining relatives has assumed the burden of a meth and heroin habit and all the clarity that provides. Only has four kids who will be having to deal with that for the rest of their lives. My feelings of free choice seem to be challenged by the extent someone might take them, and the nature of the dangers. Much of this crisis is related to the class related abandonment of the less fortunate.

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@kelly Guys working on oil rigs 30 or 40 years ago did crystal meth to work double shifts, but miraculously, they quit it when they changed jobs.
I know meth is everywhere in my rural area. Kids being take into foster care by Child Protective services in droves. I get involved in family law cases to represent the clean parent taking custody of kids from the dirty parent all the time.
I have had parents of 30ish yr old kids say they would rather their kids die than to live in meth world.
While I have no face to face contact with the F use, I just read in a local rag that it is on the rise and be ready for it.
I absolutely agree the whole drug problem shit is class and income level related, or shall I say, caused.
We have no hope unless we are sucking on a silver spoon.
Kelly, I have no words for what you are experiencing with your family.
Hugs is all I got.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp @on the cusp seems to be a class issue as well.
Every single dead rockstar mourned over the last 15 years anyway.
And the family collects a payoff.
buy out, I should say.

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@kelly would have the $ to get high on something tried, tested, and true.
F has be a spectacular high. The kind of drug that takes your mind out of this world. I thought rock stars would want to remain in this world where somebody gives a shit about them.
But, I avoided drugs all my life, settled for beer, thanks very much.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp
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was curious about the type of high of the F drug
as he has some experience in such matters
said it was a knock-out effect although when cut
with other substances it can produce a high
FWIW

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@QMS worth the risk of death.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp
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for people that have mental health issues
(with obvious consequences) which costs less
than the price of living with a pain in the brain
sad state of affairs, risking total incapacitation
for a few brief moments of respite

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@QMS for anything. Anything at all. 24/7. Never ending misery. Pain.
Maybe if I were in that situation, I would flirt with a few hours of a happy mental and emotional escape to paradise before death.
I have not been in that situation where life offers nothing but more and more pain.
I do not blame those people, I blame TPTB for their life-destroying circumstance.
If I were fabulously wealthy, they would be better, much better.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981