Open Thread - 8/25/23 - Oddities

Went on a trip. Driving through Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, to North Carolina.

We are driving down the road in Louisiana. (*Uh, sort of bull shit. Dear One drives, I sit and relax.) (It works for me.) I thought I saw some kid's toy for the beach, like a floating something for kids. Nope. An alligator on the shoulder of the road. Sorry to report it was dead. Dear One imagined what hitting that gator did to the vehicle. It was at least 10 ft., maybe more. A giant guy.

Seeing a gator by the side of the road is odd. Uh, Louisiana. Odd.

Trion, Ga. Well, I doubt I ever individually provided pizza and whiskey to a couple of meth heads, but Dear One and I did so at some picnic table at the motel property. Not only that, Dear One played his dobro and blues harp for the non-meth head people walking into and out of their rooms. They loved it.

And, if that wasn't odd enough, Dear one was trying to bring the flying meth head down with whiskey, which worked. Then, meth guy got fixated with his cell phone. Why, Dear One asked. Well, meth flyer had to sit at that place to get wifi from the motel to watch porn.

I could go on about the gay meth women couple of an age that had a fight and called the cops, and I spoke to the cops, and the cops were very professional. ODD.

Then, we got to Gulf Shores, Alabama. And I am sitting on the balcony, watching for dolphins, actually having a little relaxation in a vacation from work. Odd.

And then, this guy walks into the water, carrying a bowl. He gets in, knee deep into the water. Then he scoops up water into the bowl, empties it onto his back, chest, head.

Think about how odd that is.

Now, these are life experience oddities. Not like, say, the US claimed Russia blew up Nordstream, or the US claims Prigozhin was killed by Putin. Seems like we are first to blame Putin, then..oopsies. The odd tell.

This is an open thread. Say what you want to say, as I just did. All topics of all things, especially odd things, are welcome.

Oddly enough, this is the site you can actually say what is on your mind! ODD!

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Hope everyone is faring well.
Now, let 'er rip!

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What isn't odd these days? (Rhetorical question) Sounds like a good getaway you had.
Must have been fun to visit Lookout and Smiley along the way. And a bowl of ocean on
the back for breakfast. Too funny.

Odd is the new normal Wink

Thanks for the OT!

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@QMS Meeting the guys was just great. The conversations were nothing short of fabulous.
The area where they live is mountainous and gorgeous. It was a feast for the eyes.

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and nobody voted for it

https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/08/25/unipolar-hegemony-is-a-freaki...

Now I need a new computer.....ROFLMAO

And then, this guy walks into the water, carrying a bowl. He gets in, knee deep into the water. Then he scoops up water into the bowl, empties it onto his back, chest, head.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh the bowl guy dipped water for 5 minutes. He waded to the beach, handed off the bowl full of water to a woman seated within a foot of the water. She poured it onto her feet.
Don't ever think of yourself as strange.

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Live or pre-recorded?

But that (romanticized nostalgia) is not the main reason that people cling so tenaciously, often even angrily, to what is essentially the adult version of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. What primarily motivates them is fear. But it is not the lie itself that scares people; it is what that lie says about the world around us and how it really functions. For if NASA was able to pull off such an outrageous hoax before the entire world, and then keep that lie in place for four decades, what does that say about the control of the information we receive? What does that say about the media, and the scientific community, and the educational community, and all the other institutions we depend on to tell us the truth? What does that say about the very nature of the world we live in?

That is what scares the hell out of people and prevents them from even considering the possibility that they could have been so thoroughly duped. It’s not being lied to about the Moon landings that people have a problem with, it is the realization that comes with that revelation: if they could lie about that, they could lie about anything.”

If Armstrong was the first person to walk on the moon then who recorded his first steps? This essay makes some very good points about how it was faked and actually filmed in Arizona because of the quality of the technology at the time. Boy now wouldn’t that flip some heads if it’s proven to have been faked.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg I watched a video some years ago. A man who worked as security officer at an Air Force base. Arizona? NM? Can't remember. This officer had actually seen the moon landing stage. He also worked the gate and on a particular day, he checked in the astronaut, and LBJ and secret service agents. The President was there a couple of hours, then left.
He later saw the stage had been removed.
This guy said the check in list should be available for inspection.
Seems he was dying of cancer, wanted to make his statement, particularly for his son, before he died.
No way I would be able to direct anyone on finding the video.
edit: Nixon, not LBJ.

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@on the cusp @on the cusp been LBJ, as the Apollo 11 mission was in July '69 during Nixon. But I doubt if the president would have been brought in had there been an actual sham staging of that historic event, which, given the unnecessarily poor quality of the video camera, would have quite possibly been possible to pull off. Oddly, NASA didn't use better available cameras, so I'm told. As a result, we got ghost like images on the tv screen like the first days of tv back in the 40s or even 30s. The worse the quality, the easier to fool people it was probably figured.

So, yes, there have been some oddities that have popped up about that mission over the years. One entertaining rumor I heard, can't confirm, second hand alleged inside info, is that US intel got word that the USSR was going to also launch a manned mission in July, date unclear, but meanwhile NASA had found a fatal flaw in the Lunar Module or lander which they needed more time to fix. Not wanting to risk a massive political defeat to the Soviets, they decided to fake it. Conspiracy involved von Braun, his top assistant, and a few dozen in NASA, that's all. Astronauts were drugged and hypnotized to believe they had gone to the moon. All of the several dozen in the conspiracy, including astronauts, were closely monitored thereafter, and any who seemed unreliable were eliminated -- accidents, suicides, etc.

Apollo 13 was actually a secret mission to land at the moon area, Sea of Tranquillity, where Apollo 11 was supposed to land, to place objects and footprints to deceive any who would come looking later., as inevitably other countries would develop the ability to go to the moon. Probably all involved in the great deception are now dead. Their secrets will die with them. A secret too big to be disclosed.

So goes the rumor. Completely unprovable of course, and not asserted here as fact, just an interesting, entertaining What If?

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@on the cusp He did say Nixon.

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A dead president stated that 'muricans would be the first to step foot on the moon.
To prove our superiority, leading the world in some tech race or something. Really?
$800 million later, we get a video of some space man stepping on a moon-like surface
and planting a flag. OK, Mr. dead president, you got your small step for man kind
but, just by sticking a flag in the ground don't make it yours. And those were expensive
boot tracks anyway. The sheer audacity of some people!

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@snoopydawg They had no choice with the moon landing, they had to fake it because John Kennedy was being held against his will by aliens at a FEMA camp. The resulting coverup led directly to the necessity of 9/11.

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@ban nock

without telling me that you didn’t bother reading the article. Just popped in to make another inane comment because of course you did. When’s the last time you added anything of value to the conversation here?

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@snoopydawg camera on the astronaut is pure bs. As was the phone call Nixon made.
See my sig line. Question everything. Thanks for dropping in this interesting stuff in the OT.

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@ban nock an open thread comment thread can't be hijacked.
Try another essay comment thread to disrupt and derail. I hate to see you waste your effort.

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@snoopydawg

Why, if the whole thing was faked, would they have scheduled the broadcast for the middle of the night instead of prime time? (I know damn well it was the middle of the night - UConn suspended curfews and allowed students to stay in the Student Union to watch instead of shutting it down. I was there.)

You'd think a fake would have shown more consideration for the general public and/or the bigwigs in power.

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I remember watching the moon landing during the day at my aunt’s house in Montana. I’m not totally sold on it was fake, but the article brings up some good points about whether the technology at the time was good enough to make it happen. I’m curious if people offering comments about this even real the article I posted? If not how can you give an accurate comment? And just looking at the lander should have everyone questioning if it could have made it through the atmosphere of space.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg the possibility the first one, the most important one, Apollo 11, could have been faked, and NASA easily had the technology to do so. They could probably even fake out many of their own technicians at the control center as events unfolded in real time. I can even accept as possible that they then needed a subsequent mission faked, Apollo 13, to place objects/footprints at the Apollo 11 site in order to cover up the first deception.

But fake all other missions -- Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17? That would be asking far too much of mere mortal conspirators, pushing the conspiracy far beyond its ability to hold things together across a very large landscape of evidence and astronauts. One mission to fake and tightly control and one more to seal the deception for all time, ok, but not five more.

Yes, btw, I looked at the article you cited, but not in great depth as I'm not technical and also bc I'm already familiar, since long ago, with some of the problems raised by the skeptics.

Btw2, there is a book published about 20 yrs ago, by a German author, which is supposedly the book that proves the great hoax, but, another oddity, as yet it hasn't been translated into English, so I am unable to read it. (edit: book is Die dunkle Seite von Apollo [The Dark Side of Apollo] by Gernot L. Geise)

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They could probably even fake out many of their own technicians at the control center as events unfolded in real time.

and how it would be possible that they did just that.

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@TheOtherMaven or confuse the first landing with other ones. This cite confirms my recollection: Apollo 11 landed on the moon in the afternoon for US viewers, but the actual famous first steps on the moon were not done until some 9 hrs later, or primetime viewing for the USians. I didn't recall the exact # of hours, but did recall accurately that the 2 astronauts were kept busy a/o given rest time in their lunar lander for many hours before stepping outside for the first time. Pretty sure this lengthy delay was mostly to accommodate the p-t tv audience, but in the deception scenario it would also have been time needed to review the already-taped stepping on the moon, go over the planned roll out again, and take care of last-minute problems.

https://airandspace.si.edu/explore/stories/apollo-missions/apollo-11-moo....

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all odd, but I doubt that is what you mean. How about I have a not crazy idea about bowl of water guy, would that be strange. Water aversion therapy. Knew a guy, couldn't stand water, had to shield his face in the shower so none would hit it, and more. Doctors prescribed many a remedy for him to try. Bowl of water guy sounds like it would be a very reasonable approach to treating/curing same.

Glad you had a fun trip and a modicum of time off and glad you stood up for yourself and turned down proffered opportunities to engage in yet more work.

Today will involve some yard work, an oil change and radiator flush, assorted exercises and to do list shit without excessive exertion, uh huh, and no ladders. Right. Strange. Doctor Strange? Could Doctor Strange take down Doc Savage?? This portion of the day is possibly but stalling, but stalling is also an activity and a meritorious one depending upon the effort one puts into it, n'est ce pas?

We broke down and bought store-bought bread yestidday, weeks of too damn hot to bake and temps continuing, but what we got borders on real bread, so it's allowed. Last night my wife canned 5 quarts of pears regardless of temps, with many fans running.

Funny event yesterday - went to a fish and such joint out at a local harbor and, not too long after we are seated, boss dude comes out and announces that the fans in the kitchen died and hence no further cooking can occur because without the fans their cooking processes trigger the fire sprinller system. Crossed the street and wound up an a long, long, long rambling conversation with a total stranger. Place had a long line and 30-45 min wait for outside seating and nearly empty indoor indoor seating area, which we selected because hungry.

Just remember:

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris handed off the bowl, he waded back into the water and was neck deep.
Maybe it was an odd ritual.
Sounds like you had a long lunch. Hope it was worth the wait.
It got up to 107 deg. yesterday. There is a slight chance of rain today, but I ain't gonna hold my breath.
The two cases I turned down were sort of complicated accounting type divorces, and might have required a forensic accountant to determine who put in how much toward assets and how to divide up the money upon sale of the assets. Boring as can be.
This is what was so odd: white woman in her 60s, 20 yr marriage, during which time she was not allowed to write a check without her husband's permission. Next interview was a black woman, 20 year marriage, during which time she was not allowed to write a check without her husband's permission.
The estate in both marriages would exceed a million bucks.
These woman now have to negotiate their independent lives, learn to balance a checkbook, just like some kid getting their first job and moving out of their parents' house.
They will need counsel who has lots more patience than I possess.

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It seems that women of a certain age who don't know how to write a check or gas up a car are not that rare in the universe. Have known of a case myself.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris for me was that both women were educated, very stylishly dressed and coiffed, knew their property fair market values, and then wanted me to understand and sympathize with them about how their husbands dominated them.
El, that lets me know they want their hands held, and in my mind, they allowed the domination for 2 decades, and I have no sympathy at all.
Now, this is common in households of fundy Xtians. These women didn't even have The Bible excuse. I will take a fundy divorce case, and my office has been picketed by church members a couple of times.
Hope you are moving around, getting chores done, observing your pt protocols religiously.

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AP says-

Japanese government pledges long-term support for fisheries during Fukushima plant water release

BY MARI YAMAGUCHI
Updated 5:31 AM PDT, August 21, 2023
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TOKYO (AP) — Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida on Monday promised his government’s full support for fishing communities during the decades-long process to release treated radioactive wastewater from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant into the sea.

Meeting with fisheries representatives, Kishida promised measures to protect the fishing industry’s reputation until the release ends.

Masanobu Sakamoto, head of the National Federation of Fisheries Cooperatives, reiterated his organization’s opposition to the release. He said members of the fishing community have gained some confidence about the safety of the move, but that they still fear damage to their industry, and welcomed the government pledge for support

Kishida later told reporters that Sakamoto’s response signaled improved understanding and that key Cabinet ministers will meet Tuesday to set a date to start the release. Japan’s national broadcaster NHK said the government hopes it could begin as early as Thursday.

Sakamoto welcomed the government pledge for its long-term support for the fisheries and sought additional funding as needed. The government has offered funding totaling 80 billion yen ($550 million) for sales promotion and other steps, and for sustainable fishing operations.

https://apnews.com/article/fukushima-treated-water-release-fisheries-kis...

Asahi Shimbun says-

Fishermen, residents plan lawsuit to halt water release
Aug 24

Water contaminated by radioactive elements at the plant is being treated before being released, and the government and the utility say the water meets safety standards.

But the lawyers plan to argue that the safety of the water-discharge plan has not been secured.

Moreover, they will focus on a document submitted in 2015 by the central government and TEPCO to the Fukushima prefectural fisheries association that said the discharge of treated water would not begin without the understanding of relevant parties.

The lawyers plan to argue that the decision to go ahead with the water release, which started on Aug. 24, violates the terms in the document. The plaintiffs will say the government and TEPCO are obligated to pick an alternative option that has less of a burden on the environment.

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14988512

When I read the first article by Yamaguchi, I got the impression that Kishida merely promised an advertising or public relations effort on behalf of the Japanese seafood industries. I'm thinking the essence of it, is more of the same- "the water is safe, the water is safe." Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he did promise direct subsidies, but I didn't see that.

China isn't buying-

China bans seafood from Japan after the Fukushima nuclear plant begins its wastewater release

OKUMA, Japan (AP) — The tsunami-wrecked Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant began releasing its first batch of treated radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean on Thursday — a controversial step that prompted China to ban seafood from Japan.

People inside and outside the country protested the wastewater release, with Japanese fishing groups fearing it will further damage the reputation of their seafood and groups in China and South Korea raising concerns, making it a political and diplomatic issue.

In response to the wastewater release, Chinese customs authorities banned seafood from Japan, customs authorities announced Thursday. The ban started immediately and will affect all imports of “aquatic products” including seafood, according to the notice. Authorities said they will “dynamically adjust relevant regulatory measures as appropriate to prevent the risks of nuclear-contaminated water discharge to the health and food safety of our country.”

https://apnews.com/article/japan-fukushima-nuclear-radioactive-water-rel...

I got the impression somewhere this morning in discussions of these recent developments, that China had ulterior motives, because of the so called Tri-lateral Partnership and its anti-China orientation. I'm not sure that's true. When one challenges Japanese or IAEA objectivity the reaction is that this is not a reasonable basis of impeaching motives.

I'm pretty disappointed that the defenders of the "science" that demonstrates the radioactive waste water discharge process "is safe," and that the "discussion" needs to be better explained to those who don't understand (science) is so typically condescending and offered with a sense of impunity typical of the industry in general and the Japanese government in particular. The "process" such as it is, publicly criticized by at least some nuclear engineering professionals, is something that takes place over an extended period of decades, and the testing, monitoring, operations and maintenance of that process associated with Fukushima is not transparent. Therefore, it is not certain that if it is safe at one particular moment in time, that it will continue to be consistently safe. Japan simply disregards requests by neighbors to observe testing procedures and protocols, to take samples themselves, and make independent evaluations of safety. The actual biological and environmental impacts may not be known for years.

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@soryang we can trust the bought, paid for, secret science!
Man, there ought to be a better way.

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@on the cusp I'm glad your derm encounter went okay. Meant to say that earlier, but I'm trying to avoid medical topics for fear I'd make some admission that could come back to haunt me.

I'll limit myself to saying I tried to walk around the block yesterday, very gingerly. First time I walked more than ten yards in a week. Thanks for the OT, Onthecusp.

I drove a few hundred thousand miles in those states you visited, although I'm sure I went to far less desirable locations, like paper mills, petrochemical plants, and truck stops. I know that's not an equivalent experience. Some times the truck stops were not too bad. I used to look forward to getting there, hoping there were some parking spaces left. The Flying J's and Petro's sometimes had decent restaurants. The coffee was always good. Had to be.

There's a tropical depression that may come toward Florida between Tampa and Pensacola next week. I hope it fizzles out.

This Spanish performer sings Baek Ji-yeong's hit Don't Forget Me very well first in Korean, then in Spanish. I remember Baek Ji-yeong sang it in Pyongyang during the thaw in relations in 2018.

스페인어로 듣는 '백지영 - 잊지말아요' 라라 베니또 Lara Benito - No me olvides

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@soryang rather than later.
I had not been to the areas of NC or Alabama that we visited. Lots of animals we do not have here in East Texas. Different architecture. Much nicer summer weather than we have.
Well, our first pick for truck stops is Love's, with Pilot coming in a strong second. We did have an odd encounter at a small convenience store in Vance Alabama. While Dear One was putting fuel into the car, 2 guys approached him, asked for money. As I was walking out of the store, he yelled, "Get in the car!" He drove off hurriedly, said he felt they were mulling over robbing him.
We will never stop at a small convenience store again. Big truck stops from now on.
Lovely song!

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@on the cusp Once or twice, in ten years on the road. Trust your instincts. If a pan handler approached me while I was fueling up, I give him my free shower card if I had any. If you bought more than 50 dollars fuel, you'd get a free shower. Otherwise, I'd give him enough for a couple of hot dogs inside. If they got sour on me after that, which rarely happened I figured they were trouble and acted accordingly.

The worst was being interrupted while sleeping by people selling stolen stuff or worse. I learned I had to wear street clothes even when sleeping.

Yes, spent a lot of time at the Loves and Pilot. They were usually well run and clean. Good coffee too! I'd try to stay away from the non name brand stops. It was a way of life I got used to, I couldn't do it now. Glad I could retire. I'm indebted to my wife for her patience during this experience. She makes me laugh when she always says "I'm a truckers wife, I know all about it." She knows all the truck stops, the truck companies, how they drive, which way to go, etc. When I'm driving I say, "I'm a professional, I know what what I'm doing..." which usually means a lapse of some kind. A couple of times she had to drive all the way to NC to drop me off or pick me up.

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I had no idea that they were so severe. Best of luck for a speedy and full recovery.

Now, as to rad waste. All kinds of folks, scientists and otherwise will argue that this or that exposure is safe and cite all sorts of facts and standards and whatnot. The honest ones will shut up and leave the room if you ask the following: "What, exactly, is the proven safe dose of radiation?" It is somewhat like a low powered small caliber fire arm, maybe a .22 cal snub nosed pistol. There are a ton of places where a wound from one won't kill you, but there are a few that will.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris I'm feeling much better than a week ago. I'm getting a follow up in mid September. So I expect to be just about fully recovered by then. I'm so glad I have the C99 community to keep my interest while sitting around.

At this point, I'm not trying to persuade anyone in particular, if an article publishing the views of nuclear engineer doesn't sway their absolute certainty even slightly, it's hopeless. If you can get a qualified expert to disagree with the other qualified experts, it becomes a matter of judgement. So the "science" argument reminds me of the infallibility of the pope.

I personally agree with your point, no amount of radionuclides is good for you. And the accumulation over time in the food chain or one's body is another. When people say science, as if that puts an end to the discussion, I think that really they don't know much about proving a case with expert opinion. There is so much political overlay on this particular issue. The media, social and otherwise, are really focused on this issue today at least in East Asia. MBC seems like they've been running live coverage of it non-stop. It's interesting to see how people react in various walks of life.

One of the interesting things I heard today was that after the disaster, Japan passed some kind of Special Secrets Act, to give the power to the cabinet to classify categories of inside government information that might adversely affect public order, diplomatic relations, or national security. This can include that info gained while working for a private entity. It seems kind of overbroad, but the purpose (it was alleged) is to keep people with inside info such as people at TEPCO, or their nuclear regulatory agency from leaking anything that contradicts the official position on Fukushima.

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@soryang @soryang

anything useful to the harm of the people
sounds more realistic (science notwithstanding)

glad you are are mending

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and have never been to Texas? yeah, but we had Alligator Ed. And I learned from him to distinguish a crocodile from an alligator.

Where is Alligator Ed, when I need him?

Very odd. he disappeard.

I run constantly into odd old women in the streets. Yesterday one of them told me that all medical doctors are criminals and try to poison her with drugs. How odd is that?

Don't be odd. People may think how sane you are, in all oddities.

Good night from odd Germany and oddity-mimi.

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@mimi the woman you met actually realizes that pharmaceuticals are sometimes quite deadly.
Texas is full of fun, if you are at the right place at the right time.
Have a great weekend!

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@mimi

(brother?) wrote something about it. Sorry you missed it; i don't know how to find it quickly.

be well and have a good one

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But he sure made his opinions known.
I could not ask for less.

cheers

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https://caucus99percent.com/content/re-alligator-ed

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@JtC

surprised it was only 2 years ago
time flies keep buzzing around the brain

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@JtC
my memory is decaying quickly, and I am sorry, if this resulted in insulting comments to the dead and the living.

I can't lie (too dumb to do it):

I can't see much, have difficulties to read the display on my mobile phone, hate my mobile phone with a passion, think it is the worst device to maintain love and peace among all people.

mimi has spoken and loves Winnetou..

ok, forget me and my comments. I am on my way out. Be well all, I always loved this place.

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@mimi all of us fade away, and no human ever understood everything. We aren't designed that way. We would be gods, live eternally, in eternal perfection.
Instead, we are often quite odd, a quite common human characteristic.
Get a great night's sleep. Every time you make a comment, it triggers memories of my trips to Germany. Thanks for those triggers.

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deep emotions

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@QMS progressed, he was out of pain, reaching mental peace, no anger, just some painless rest, for all eternity.

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