@Lookout

looking thru a telescope to see the back of your head
is both serious and funny

wish the punditry and political class could wrap their brains
around the concept of self reflection instead of deception.

enjoy the liquid sunshine!

Raining here, but we can use it.
Your discussion of quarks made me think of this one which I still play and sing...

Einstein The Genius (Theory Of Relativity)

Henry Jankiewicz

Einstein was a genius, not like you and me.
He wrote two equations every day.
On mondays he wrote three.
On mondays, he wrote three.

Chorus:
Albert, dance around.
Albert, be profound.
Albert let your hair stick out,
Your socks hang down.

A man stared through a telescope until his eyes were red.
He stared in outer space and saw
The back of his own head.
The backside, of his head.

A Man got in a spaceship and flew a hundered miles.
Busted through the speed of light.
He came back a child.
He came back a child.

I had a frame of reference.
I laid on the fence.
Along came relativity.
I haven't seen the damn thing since.
Seen the damn thing since.

A wave and a particle were walking side by side.
One said to the other,
"Which one of us am I?"
"Which one, of us am I?"

Einstein had a fiddle. He loved to {shout,dance} and sing.
Man if that ain't genius,
That ain't anything.
That ain't anything.

@enhydra lutris

fields, waveforms, quarks, magnetics, quantum ~
mental perception and projection seem to all tie
into together. The bigger question is how is this
physical realm being used to train our thinking?

was largely all about fields, magnetic fields, electronic fields, arguably gravitational fields, though seldom invoked as such, endless fields of grain, whatever. This was problematic because some, including Albert himself, disliked "spooky action at a distance" which is somewhat inherent in the concept of fields. When 2 objects collide, force is obviously transferred between them because they knocked into each other, but when they just sit there, how is it they interact? That didn't bother me, they just did, the fields did it, pushing on each other, and why not, huh? What the hell, maybe the math did it, and why not, huh?

We had waves too, electromagnetic ones, of all lengths and frequencies, but waves in what? Not the ether, maybe space time, (and how is that not intangible ether) but gravity bends spacetime so it's a wave? or a field? And light waves, in what, and why do they sometimes behave like particles?

Radiation: things emit heat (particles vibrating), sound (things vibrating), light waves, vibrating in nothing or in fields or maybe light is particles, hah! So we tried alles ist particles, jah? (Gravitrons??? Phonons are maybe aggregates of particles?) And, matter --
Matter emits and/or absorbs "photons" and matter is discrete particles, but they're made of discrete particles and, when we break it down (stop breaking down) so are those particles and, voila! Quarks. And they are .... Quanta! Thanks to Herr Schrödinger, we can compute for all particles a frequency and wavelength (Schrödinger's wave equation) so are they really waves or, gasp, both or neither? (Also thanks to Schrödinger we know that cannot simultaneously know their position and velocity (so what about momentum and since velocity is a vector, isn't position an implied component?))

Zo, in the end relativity doesn't mesh perfekly with quantum theory and we have no quantum theory of Gravity and the relativistic one smells a lot like a field. So we push the envelope while still hunting gravitrons with refinements in quantum field theory (ahem), and seek a unified field theory (ahem also too). So, back to fields? But they're the problem, or are they?

Our conceptual models; particles, waves, fields, don't seem to get us there. Perhaps stuff really is none of the above through being something like all of the above or some parts of all of the above. Perhaps, our visions of things, based on gross perceived macroscopic things simply cannot grok, express, or visualize our math.

What keeps airplanes up? We don't need quanta to get befuddled, fluid dynamics will do it just as well we don't understand or can't express what keeps airplanes in the air.

be well and have a good one