dKos FPer reacts to false headline and posts without checking the facts. Wait...

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It appears that the FPer didn’t even bother to read the entire article (is this deja vu) because as slanted as the story is on its face: it is clear: there is no story here... and btw… If we get a Democratic president and the press is still doing this shit, remember how you didn’t bother to hold them to account, when their bullshit fit your narratives.

SANDERS’ VATICAN INVITATION SPARKS ACCUSATION OF ‘DISCOURTESY’

She said:Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, said Friday that Sanders didn’t follow proper protocol by failing to contact her office and that his presence threatens to make the event political. “Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Archer said.

Archer did not know whom he or his representatives contacted.

Archer added: “His use of it is clearly a pretext. There are just 20 academics and there will be nothing of policy relevance.”

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He said:The academy’s chancellor (Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo) said he arranged the invitation and defended the Vermont senator.

“We are interested in having him because we have two presidents coming from Latin America, I thought it would be good to have an authoritative voice from North America,” Sanchez Sorondo said. Asked when he when the invitation was extended, he said, “Quite some time ago.”

Facts apparently unknown by Archer (or the FPer who posted it on dKos):
1. Sanders was invited by Bishop Sorondo (we know this because the Bishop said it). This begs the question: are invitees instructed to contact Archer’s office? Did Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, who invited Sanders, not give him necessary instructions? Is this a pissing contest between Archer and the bishop?

2. Archer appears to be worried Sanders is making this a political event… there are just 20 academics... except, Bolivian President Evo Morales and Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa are both attending and listed as speakers on the academy’s website

3. Archer says Sanders made the first move, but she offers no proof, and has no clue with whom Sanders had contact and gives no details nor does she back up her claim.

my analysis: Clinton campaign’s disqualify Sanders strategy in full view:
Archer’s public complaint feeds into criticism by Clinton of Sanders’s inexperience in diplomacy

… but just wait for it, because the Clinton camp will find something here.

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UPDATED with this
Papal Official Denies Report Sanders Invited Himself to Vatican
U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.
“I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event. He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

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pfiore8's picture

no need to go to my essay at TOP... but you might find it interesting to read LL's essay... which has been updated but still pushing the story. truly breath_taking.

i had a much better time with this as my outrage had subsided and I realized it was getting the better of me.

light and breezy. it works much better. and while ultra lightweight as armor goes, it seems to be virtually impenetrable.

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lotlizard's picture

and when it becomes apparent to all that their behavior-mod techniques aren’t working because, following your example, nobody is taking them and their calculated insults at all seriously, they’re powerless.

And that just infuriates them, that you took their power to inflict pain on you and manipulate others (“See? See? You don’t want to end up on the receiving end of our ridicule like this target, do you? Well, then, behave yourself if you know what’s good for you”) away.

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are we in the same time zone? how is everything going? how's our friend Fransia? did they ever get pregnant?

and, finally, is that your cat? we'll have to get together for lunch ... we leave next week for US and back in NL mid May. let me know if you guys want to meet up when we're back... we haven't been to Haarlem for some time.

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“There are moments which are not calculable, and cannot be assessed in words; they live on in the solution of memory… ”
― Lawrence Durrell, "Justine"

Almost everything said by Hillary, her surrogates, or the supposedly independent pundits on the Hillary team (I'm thinking of Paul Krugman, but there are plenty of others) is going to fit the "disqualify" narrative until a change of tactics is ordered by the campaign.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

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btw . . . since you mention Krugman, subir wrote a great piece at TOP... hope he'll post it here... asking if we've reached peak krugman yet . . . fucking great title! and worth the read.

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He, Armando and Trix have fallen as far as the website's owner.
All 3 of them troll every Bernie diary and apparently it doesn't matter how many people complain about them, it looks like they have permission to be dicks.
TeackerKen's diary today offered his point of view about what Krugman, Robertson and some one else wrote, but his headline today was written on purpose just to stir up shit.
The election season certainly shows who people are.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

Has gone full on "Phoenix Woman" going on doubling down with at least a "Bakers Dozen" or 2...

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And on cue.

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Why would Jewish Sanders suddenly attempt to invite himself to an obscure Vatican shindig?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

detroitmechworks's picture

If it might possibly in some way cause someone to think badly of Hillary, it's part of the Vast Human Conspiracy to deny her the nomination and presidency.

And anybody who says different might as well be wearing a tinfoil hat...

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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is falling apart . . . so haven't been receiving many signals lately. hey DWM

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PastorAgnostic's picture

thin zinc plating, gives you mobile power, especially if one adds an acidic fruit jugs to the mix.

I understand that lithium has some potential, too.

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pfiore8's picture

a place to hide. if it's looney from inception, it's almost impossible to untangle. we're not dealing with amateurs here.

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was the idea that one can simply "invite one's self" to a Vatican conference. How does that work exactly? On the face of it it's ludicrous.

That being said, I cannot fault them for buying into the original news article. I've been suckered by one or two pro-Bernie articles also. The difference is that when it became clear that I had been suckered I changed my position publicly and clearly. What I CAN fault them for is clinging to the lies long after they've been clearly demonstrated.

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pfiore8's picture

i hadn't thought of this:

What made even less sense was the idea that one can simply "invite one's self" to a Vatican conference. How does that work exactly? On the face of it it's ludicrous.

but the money part of your comment is this:

That being said, I cannot fault them for buying into the original news article. I've been suckered by one or two pro-Bernie articles also. The difference is that when it became clear that I had been suckered I changed my position publicly and clearly. What I CAN fault them for is clinging to the lies long after they've been clearly demonstrated.

this is an enormous difference.

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“There are moments which are not calculable, and cannot be assessed in words; they live on in the solution of memory… ”
― Lawrence Durrell, "Justine"

will never admit that he's wrong . Never has and never will. I've know a few people like this in my life and they are intolerable to be around for very long. Oh, and did I mention that he always has to have the last word?...

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Always wanted to ask what Tea Cherken tasted like.

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Pricknick's picture

that the author went to what he thought was a safe place to cry about all the flags he got for that cesspool he dug. And the stink there did as their masters requested and uprated him

Laurence Lewis rubyr Apr 08 · 03:02:48 PM
tip jar of this. 9 flags so far. did i mention that i can’t wait for this shitfest to end?

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until he got a leading role.

Those paychecks.......... they do something to a man.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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bwahahahahahahahaha:

pfiore8 Ken in MN Apr 08 · 09:16:41 PM
I had to get my sense of humor back… the outrage was killing me. it’s better this way. and btw, I flagged the SOB’s essay. and i never flag.

seems that was just enough of a push to get others to flag him. but this was my favorite:

Archangel pfiore8 Apr 08 · 10:57:08 PM
Funny thing. I had been away from DKos for so long, I had lost TU status, then yesterday I discovered I got it back. Guess where my first flag in 5 years went to? Smile

i am enjoying this immensely. but i better watch my back, Turkana aka Laurence Lewis won't forget this, i'm sure.

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his reaction . . . priceless

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who turned out to be flaming hypocrites.

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Twain Disciple

I still don't know what the stink was about.

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pfiore8's picture

yup.

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Miep's picture

Are they?

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Stay on track. Stay in lane. Don't throw rocks.

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money changers as a bunch of robbers, gets invitation to Vatican Conference.

And Hillbots somehow turn this into a bad thing?

Something has happened to me lately. What used to piss me off about DK now just tickles my funny bone!!

TOP is becoming truly Hillaryous!!!

Thanks for laugh, peef. And the cartoons were great also.

Feelin' the Bern tonight in Texas.

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Smile

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PastorAgnostic's picture

For president?

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Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

Of one of Shaun King's Tweets on #HillarySoQualified...

Damn! That's one Pro-Hillary Hashtag that didn't quite work out as planned...

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Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

Growing up in the family of an "Irish Cop" I spent some time every Sunday sitting on a hard wood bench with my 5 siblings...

Despite not having been to a Catholic Church in 40 years for something more than a wedding or funeral, mainly because of the "Pedophile Priest" thing, and boys club attitude...

I still pay a bit of attention to the church in the news...

If the HRC Supporters had only the slightest idea of what Pope Francis said in his address to congress...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WhLwWNnf3o]

or if they had even scanned through Pope Francis' "ENCYCLICAL LETTER LAUDATO SI’ OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS ON CARE FOR OUR COMMON HOME" they would realize the both Bernie and Pope Francis are preaching the same message in many common areas...

Of course Bernie would be invited to the vatican over any other candidate...

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