Open Thread - Thurs 27 Oct - Nothing Much...

A Realization:
Sometimes, something hits me just right, and makes me expand my opinion, thoughts, formulations of a subject. That happened to me recently.

Just by chance I was reading an article by Matt Stoller (note: this has nothing really to do with the subject of the last blog I did on his book Goliath) on his Substack, about what he'd been trying to do with the substack account, and thanking those of us who supported him however they could. He wrote a few paragraphs which really struck me.

And that’s because most of us have a shared experience in coming to understand market power, even if we don’t know it. I analogize this process to understanding plate tectonics. Before 1967, we didn’t really know the cause of earthquakes and volcanoes. But that year, scientists Dan McKenzie and Robert Parker published a paper describing the theory of plate tectonics, the idea that Earth’s crust is composed of big flexible plates that smash into one another, fostering lots of phenomena, including earthquakes, volcanoes, mountain ranges and continents.
As plate tectonics does to geology, monopoly power explains the underlying features of our politics in such a fundamental way that it is inconceivable to understand how things work without it. Earthquakes and continents do not make sense without a basic explanation of movements in earth’s crust, just as culture wars and social questions do not make sense without understanding that they flow through corporations and business law.
Once you see the basic architecture of politics, you can’t unsee it. Once you understand the market power of Disney, Google, or CVS, and how their strategies and choices are based on a set of ideas interpreted by legislators and judges, arguments about culture or health care or technology seem foolish without a grounding in market power.
And believe it or not, this process is something that happens to everyone. It happened to antitrust lawyers who saw the collapse of their body of law over the last three decades, it happened to people in the cheer world when they realized that Varsity Brands is organized to acquire power over them, and it happens to policymakers as they come to understand their role in protecting our markets and our liberties. It’s why a lot of the antitrust bar lawyers are still upset, they haven’t gone through the experience of seeing what we see, of recognizing that the dysfunction of our politics and society is a result of consolidated market power.

This part '... culture wars and social questions do not make sense without understanding that they flow through corporations and business law' and this part '... seeing what we see, of recognizing that the dysfunction of our politics and society is a result of consolidated market power' really says it all to me, at least in terms of the power that the owners of our society, the oligarchy, has.

We have to remove that power or the other fights and struggles we might make are going to be unwinnable. I really want to stop wars, but how can we stop wars when some of the biggest market power players in our country, in the world, are the military industrial complex? How can we trust even one word of what they tell us about said wars and their excuses for them? From Weapons of Mass Destruction to Viagra helping soldiers rape (where? In Libya, in Ukraine, haven't we heard this story before?) How do we stop Amazon, or Google, or Facebook; they control everything, everything online? The fight has to start there, against the consolidated market powers, the fight has to start there. I think it's going to take a lot more social unrest, a lot more, before the small changes that are starting with the likes of Lina Kahn, can grow. Maybe those changes will be killed and have to be restarted by another person or group of people a few years later, I dunno. Maybe that's the really scary war that's coming up... scary for TPTB.

To Completely Change the Subject:
Did you know that jack o'lanterns started as carved turnips, rutabagas, mangel wurtzels or beets? Before pumpkins made it to Europe in the 1980s, really, that's what they used. I think they make a far scarier impression... And imagine the difficulty in doing that carving. It's not like any of those vegetables are hollow!


A Cornish Jack o'Lantern, carved from a turnip. source


And here's another, from Ireland. source

So, thanks for reading, have a great weekend and Halloween!, and here's the open thread - and remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!

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Sima's picture

We've finally had rain here, and now it's windy and rainy and sunny and very Octobery. Yay! Garlic is coming up, ground is nicely wet, goats are melting in the rain. Ok, not really melting, they just like to pretend they will melt.

I hope everyone is having a good day. Let us know what's up, and what you are reading/learning/discovering in the open thread!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

enhydra lutris's picture

garlic is coming up as are a couple of my shallots.

Monopolies and other corporations rule both the US and the world. I used to have a free clipping service built into some other program I used. I set it to send me everything on the major oil field service companies and oil companies. The resulting information was a great predictor of much of global politics.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris
Some stuff is normal, it's good to hear. Sorry about the no rain. We've a windstorm now, it's knocked down some trees. More firewood, I guess.

I like the idea of a clipping service, to send news about what big business is doing. I bet that service is gone now?

Hope your day was good, and the coming weekend is great, and thanks for stopping by.

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Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@gjohnsit
That the small newspapers are disappearing. Some of them have web presences, which helps but... bleh. More of them just disappear...

Thank you for the video clip! I learn so much from your comments and posts!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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Traditional_Irish_halloween_Jack-o'-lantern.jpg

ghastly
can you carve a better pumpkin head?

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question everything

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@QMS @QMS
talking heads, but they do! I dunno if that makes them scarier, or more kinda stupid looking, or both.

Great video too, love the Crash Test Dummies. Thanks for stopping by!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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I've got a carpentry crew coming in the morning to fix the north soffit, naturally our highest one. So I've spent the day staging and prepping the work site.

As to our corporate capture, it seems as hard to escape as a parasite infestation. I think were down to dealing with the systemic dysfunction as individuals. I personally don't see protesting on the streets as a viable solution given the militarized police force...but bless those who try.
Here's an interesting approach... (10 min)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3guKLjId2T8]

Democrats who fancy themselves “progressives” in Congress but who continue to vote to fund the war in Ukraine, leading the combatants ever closer to a nuclear conflict are no longer going to get a pass from activists desperate to avoid nuclear war. The latest pol to face vocal opposition is Elizabeth Warren, whose recent town hall on student loan debt forgiveness was interrupted by hecklers demanding that she change course and immediately stop agreeing to fund the Ukraine war.

Guest host Aaron Maté (https://mate.substack.com) and his panel of The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal and America’s Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the increasing number of confrontations progressive Democrats are experiencing as the Ukraine war drags on and brings us ever closer to the brink of a nuclear confrontation.

Calling out those in power, as long as we can. Already TPTB will silence you on social media. That in part makes C99 a treasure of open conversation.

Thanks for the OT.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout
And everything is getting repaired nicely.

I think fighting corporate capture with everything, individually and as you say, bless those protesting in the streets, is what we have to do.

I'm glad the supposedly progressive Dems are getting heckled and shut down by those further left about war and nukes and so on. Those Dems are such quislings.

Thanks for the video and for stopping by!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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on Matt Stoller-

So-called "progressive" think tank dronie Matt Stoller
@MatthewStoller
is openly calling for the US to "mobilize for war ASAP" with China.

Why? Not for the pretense of "democracy" or other propaganda, but because US corporations need Taiwanese semiconductors

Blatant imperialism

twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1582421831973105665

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語必忠信 行必正直

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@soryang

I believe the issue is a bit deeper than chips. The US/EU hegemony is fighting from an
imbalance now. They are on their heels, swinging wildly. The war party is desperate to
prevent a multipolar global arrangement. I think it is too little, too late. After losing the
support of the global south, Russia, China and now the house of Saud in the ME, their
only last hope is to double down on intimidation, threats of nuclear war and total
destruction. Reminds me of a schoolyard bully doing a tantrum for not getting its way.
Negotiation? Diplomacy? Compromise? Ain't gonna happen with these egotistical
wannabe masters of the universe. As the world watches the dollar deflate and we the
people suffer the consequences, I hope to see a better future without war.

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@QMS It was always the model of intimidation and bullying. Imperialism is the ultimate monopoly capitalism, the use of intimidation, violence, and other coercion to force yourself on other states.

The problem is that in the post WWII order, the US has shot its wad, as the saying goes, waging wars unsuccessfully on third rate states as corrupt domestic interests used those wars as opportunities to fleece the so called "homeland," of its available discretionary resources, in lieu of more prudent use of those resources to restructure, rebuild and invest in itself. The lost opportunity cost can never be recovered. Those elites who are still living in the bubble of post WWII US propaganda and delusions of what a great power we are (were) simply don't understand the reality you describe. The chips issue is just symbolic of the opportunity cost sacrificed. There are other ideological and cultural factors, generating misguided geopolitical thinking and so called "strategies." Among those are Taiwan as "aircraft carrier," the so called "first island chain" and other 19th Century gunboat notions. Contrary to what Stoller asserts, racism and delusions of cultural superiority are part of the misguided US thinking.

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@soryang
about the same Stoller twitter post last week. And I agree, it stinks. But I also wonder, because he's not posted other stuff like that at least on his substack, if it's not sarcasm interpreted wrongly? I don't read twitter, so I don't know if Stoller has long threads supporting war in China or what.

If it's not sarcasm, it's a horrible take. He can have good work on the economy, I guess, and suck at other political stuff. It's like Breaking Points, some stuff on the show is really good, other stuff... eh.

Thanks for stopping by and posting!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so