Welcome to Saturday's Potluck - July 23, 2022

“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.”
Pablo Picasso

It has been a busy summer and keep falling farther behind. There have been several subjects brought up in diaries I wanted to add a few thoughts.

Stocking up. It is part of farm life and living with the seasons. There is a time to harvest, preserve and consume. The act of creating a working inventory of regularly used products and foods with scheduled turn-over rate.. The criteria used to determine how much to buy ahead of expected need is based on storage space, funds and ease of replacing item when time to repurchase or replace.

A working inventory evens out my monthly expenses, helped with income disruptions and reduces the times I need to run into town for one item.
The concept extends to many consumables in life from a few extra PVC joints to repair or modify irrigation system, an extra bottle of shampoo to a few extra jars of pickles. If the cucumber harvest is poor I can always buy a few jars of a commercial product to fill the the pantry selves.

I have evolved past buying a product just because the price is very low. Those are the items often thrown out due to expiration date or are awkward to store. Quit buying special food for all the different animals. If I was buying Purina Chow products would need to buy and sore at least 10 different products. The primary reason I did the research and mix many of the food products. The same simplification can be done with cleaning products.

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Asia Times has been a big supporter of the Ukrainians. There coverage has been slowly shifting. Maybe war fatigue is setting in or the editors are feeling less confidant of a Western desired outcome.

The bottom lines for peace in Ukraine Asia Times July 22, 2022

The recent assertion by Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s security council (and former president), that the invasion of Ukraine will “achieve all its goals” and that peace will be “on our terms” raises an obvious question: what are those terms?

History suggests the answer may be a hard one. Modern Russian wars have followed a pattern – victory is either total (Chechnya or Syria) or it involves the dismemberment of the other country (Georgia or Ukraine after the first Russian intervention in 2014).

Peace treaties are rare, and settlements – as Medvedev’s comments implied – have been Russia’s alone to approve. Opponents are expected to surrender, not negotiate.
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While Putin’s bottom lines remain unknown, the onus is now on Ukraine and its Western backers to set out their own terms for what is and isn’t negotiable. Although it may be Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s country at war, ultimately peace will have to be settled by Putin and US President Joe Biden.

There appear to be four main questions that will determine what the bottom lines for peace would look like:

Should Russia be economically liable for the restoration of the damage caused by its invasion?
Should those accused of war crimes be brought to justice?
Should Ukraine’s territorial integrity be retained, or should the country be divided and parts ceded to Russia (as former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger has recommended)?
What would ongoing security guarantees for the region look like?

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Another example of the mood changing.
United States: end of an illusion of omnipotence Asia Times July 21, 2022

For decades, the United States has been in relative decline, facing the prospect of someday being overtaken by a rival power. Its main problem, however, is not the relative decline itself – it’s a natural phenomenon occurring as companies, sectors, regions and countries grow at uneven rates. Instead, its main problem is a failure to recognize this condition, whether out of pride, electoral calculation or simple lack of awareness.
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This relative decline in economic and productive weight ultimately results in a narrowing of the margins for political action, due to the phenomenon of “overstretching,” the phenomenon at the origin of the fall of some great empires (from the Roman Empire to the Russian). Kennedy – in 1986 – explained it in this way:

“Decision-makers in Washington must face the awkward and enduring fact that the sum total of the United States’ global interests and obligations is nowadays far larger than the country’s power to defend them all simultaneously.”

That is, the global interests and obligations that the United States could afford to defend with a GDP of nearly $3.46 trillion in 1960, could not all be defended simultaneously in 1986 with a GDP of $8.6 trillion, and even less so today despite a GDP approaching $20 trillion. This paradox is only apparent: while the GDP of the United States in 1960 was almost half (46.7%) of the GDP of the rest of the world, by 2020 it had become less than a third (30.8%).

At some point we need to be concerned about the quality of life to those who live in the United States.

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Not sure how much time will be available to check in today. It could be this evening before I can visit the Open Thread.

What is on your mind today?

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I think your working inventory process is a smart approach to having stock on hand when it is
needed. The 'supply chain' choke points are partially caused by 'just-in-time' retailers and
distributors business models. It has become almost surprising when I can find parts when needed.

I would hope 'war fatigue' is being recognized as an actionable result of the suffering populations
for the sanctioning nations with regard to Ukraine. Time to stop feeding the war machine and start addressing domestic needs IMO. Perhaps expecting congress and the executive branches of government to alter spending priorities is asking too much?

Thank you for publishing your potluck!
Good luck with your projects.

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studentofearth's picture

@QMS shame governments and their civilian populations for not supporting all the requests of the Ukrainian governments. It does not seem related to actual suffering of those involved in conflict area or have been forced to flee.

Started seeing it pop up in storied in May accompanied by warnings of encouraging negotiating for peace and not sending enough weapons or dollars. Perhaps a method for public shaming.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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is something I've carried with me since my first job working as a stock clerk. It can be a pain in the behind moving cans and bottles around so as to put new stock in the back, but must be done.
I use a marking pen to write the dates purchased in big numbers for a fast read.
We manage to keep up with the "best by" dates although going past is ok. Most foods can go months past the bb date. YMMV.
China and Iran absolutely know that they are next in line for regime change. They will not allow Russia to fall.
It could come to a nuclear exchange with these crazy bastards ruling this country.
America needs a regime change badly.
Thanks for the OT.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@earthling1 as a store clerk. A wide variety of jobs certainly creates some unusual, but useful habits.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

I sat on my porch, saw dark clouds coming, the winds kicked up, I smelled the rain. And then, it stalled out. Maybe this evening, the predictions will come true.
We haven't had a "good rain" since May. Thank goodness, I am no longer farming.
My escape property in SW Colorado is in drought.
Mother Earth is testing our limits.
Hope your weather is user friendly, and your day is happy.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

enhydra lutris's picture

@on the cusp

"This is not a drought, this is aridification," Rhett Larson, a water law professor at Arizona State University, told the Post. "This is not something we can wait out. This is not something we can survive. This is the new world we live in."

I wonder if aridification comes before, or after desertification? Quote is from this:

The Rio Grande river has dried up through Albuquerque for the first time in four decades

article (with picture) from https://boingboing.net/2022/07/22/the-rio-grande-river-has-dried-up-thro...

good luck with the rain, we need some too

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris about having to water some landscaping at home and the office. At least I do not live in NM or AZ.
I ran across a headline somewhere, the gist being, "In 60 years, we will have no top soil". WTF next?
There are days when I am glad I am old.
Hope you get some rain, friend.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

enhydra lutris's picture

jump to GDP based comparisons. GDP is horribly flawed, especially for crating comparisons.
Here's one simplistic definition

the total value of goods produced and services provided in a country during one year. Compare with gross national product.

Total Value?, really?, whazzat? If I make a trinket from trash and sell it for $100, what is the value, and is it the same as if I sell that same trinket for $50 or $200, and, what if, for shits and grins, I make an otherwise identical copy from platinum?

"better" definition is the classic formula -

GDP = C + G + I + NX

where

C=consumption;
G=government spending;
I=investment; and
NX=net exports

(from investopedia, in this instance)

This is rife with possible duplication and all the problems of confusing price with value and counts as a plus the cost or price of shit that gets trashed almost immediately, of stuff that destroys the enviroment of the cost of remediating the damage done by said crap, of manufacturing weapons that don't get used and, depending upon point of view, those that do get used also,too, etc. etc.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris GDP does not take into account cost of doing business or daily living expenses when comparing economies. A person might have a higher quality of life in a country with a lower GDP.

I suppose in the article it just helps the author support the opinion he is trying to make US portion of the world economy is decreasing.

while the GDP of the United States in 1960 was almost half (46.7%) of the GDP of the rest of the world, by 2020 it had become less than a third (30.8%).

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

at sale prices. Our local grocery store chain puts on a sale weekly. They select some good products, and it brings in shoppers who then buy other items while there. An example is, say, Kraft cheese, 5 packages for $10. Last week was canned Del Monte veggies, 10 for $10. Del Monte does not use gmo veggies. The cheapest we can find is normally $1.43 per can. Needless to say, we really stocked up on both those products.
Seems lawn equipment, batteries, replacement parts are expensive and always hard to find. Empty shelves and back orders are common. I had to replace a freezer a few months ago. Lowe's at the 3 nearest locations had none. My husband called a local furniture store on a whim. They had exactly one in stock, and it was exactly the model we were trying to find.
Hope your work gets accomplished, and you give us a good report when you check back in tonight.
As always, thanks for the OT.

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@on the cusp A deeper inventory allows me to watch for periodic sales to restock inventory.

I would recommend not buying a case the chili lime fruit cocktail at 25 cents a can without first tasting the product. It might be a new favorite food and then again it might be awful. Significant difference between edible, palatable and enjoyable.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Lookout's picture

Been busy today, so just now checking in. As you say, harvesting and processing is probably half of the garden chores.

We've been lucky with the meager rains...1.4" this week over 4 events....and 3" earlier in the month. So I'm not complaining. We can irrigate too.

No doubt the world is in flux...round and round it goes and where it lands nobody knows. But the direction seems East and South.

Thanks for the OT and happy homesteading. Yes its a chore, but ain't we lucky?

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout until it just vanished, I forgave the meteorologists their 40% prediction. But today..70%? nothing. No clouds, thunder, winds, just nothing. What other experts could be so wrong so often, and still be considered experts, and command big salary?
Foreign policy experts?

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@on the cusp

LIAR!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout At least it is cool outside. So, there was a 70% suggestion of a thunderstorm. I must learn to properly translate meteorologists speak into plain English.
I have hired someone to water in my absence starting the middle of next week. I will be gone one week. Their is a high probability of rain every day we are gone. Hired help will earn her pay.
I will check with Accuweather for the state we will be visiting. It ain't perfect, but it has been fairly close at predicting weather everywhere in the world I have traveled. I packed accordingly, never had a big surprise. I think I packed one garment for Christmas in Germany and Austria that I didn't need. Driving around the US is so different for packing. If I need something, go buy it. Not so easy in the Serengeti.
Sing, play make good music, grow good food, find peace in your soul, friend!

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@Lookout It is my favorite lifestyle, never bored and only occasionally overwhelmed.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

I find them to be fact bases and not ideological.

That said I think they might have missed the thoughts of Zelenski and the Ukraine people on what they think of negotiations.Zelenski has stated and polling shows very broad support for not negotiating at all until Russia withdraws from all of the territory they have taken during this war.

I doubt anyone considers any agreements with Putin to be binding on Putin's part and that makes things difficult.

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@ban nock

the Minsk’s agreement that Ukraine signed in 2015. Porurachenko (?) just admitted that he signed it, but never planned on upholding it because he said that he was buying time to arm and train Ukraines military and Nazis. How’s that for a non binding agreement? Ukraine and Russia also have security agreements that Ukraine has broken. Ukraine not Russia. But I guess it doesn’t fit with your anti Putin thoughts so you can just ignore them too.

But you really ought to look at your own country’s breaking of agreements and treaties before you go slinging mud at anyone else. Russia has been going slow because they are trying to limit civilian casualties unlike Ukraine that has been slaughtering their own people in the Donbas. And again unlike what you country did in Iraq with shock and awe and how it bombed Libya into rubble. Americans have no right slinging any mud until they remove the log from their eyes.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg Russia never complied with the Minsk agreement and violated it over 4,000 times, killing hundreds of Ukrainians and pouring heavy weaponry into the region. It's like Hitler claiming he was invading Poland in self defence. Utterly ridiculous on the face of it. It was simply the first phase of Putin's intended acquisition of Ukraine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements#Minsk_II,_February_2015

What I don't understand is why support a right wing dictator? What possible motivation? What good does imperialism serve?

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@ban nock have understood or thought of regarding a number of issues regarding Asian countries. After reading for several years can recognize the ideology of some of their regular contributors, but still most of the articles are supported by facts. Follow a few contributors who have left to other publications for their insights.

Unfortunately the conflict in Ukraine has morphed into a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Zelenski and the Ukraine people are caught in the crossfire and do not have free will regarding the outcome of the conflict. Imagine most of us at C99 are outside observers trying to peer though the fog by gathering information from multiple and conflicting sources. Then look back over the past weeks to see which sources were more accurate.

Putin is the leader of Russia and will be involved in any negotiated agreements with the country. The United States leadership will have to work with him, unless they have planned a coup or assassination in the near future.

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So of course the West is allying itself with the most extreme autocrats on the planet.

In Germany, the Greens are leading the charge for building up and deploying a Wehrmacht 2.0 against Russia.

Strange times.

Our new allies against Russia are criminals. But these are our criminals.
Let's get the dimensions right: it is an expression of cold realpolitik when, in the fight against Russia, we ally ourselves with Arab and Caucasus dictators.

Notice the names and titles. These are rulers with whom we — read: the EU and the US — have in recent weeks entered deeper partnership in what US President Joe Biden has called the 21st century struggle between democracy and autocracy.

Original op-ed in the Danish daily Politiken:
https://politiken.dk/debat/klummer/jarlner/art8889085/Vores-nye-alliered...

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