02/28 National Science Day

Science is Curiosity!

~~     Science Is Curiosity

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It's Science Day.  What?  So, is there a National Science Breakfast?  Of course not.  First off, those who would hold it probably haven't the faintest idea what science is, though they do know that it is neither faith nor prayer, or at least their aides tell them so.  Some think it is an encyclopedia and are fond of saying things like "science tells us" followed by some assertion that they believe in, generally without knowing why.  That too would be left up to their aides.

For The Record, science is a continuous ongoing process, or method often simplistically described as involving the formation of a hypothesis, followed by designing and conducting experiments to test that hypothesis, and drawing conclusions from said tests as to the correctness of the hypothesis.  Many today would insert making an observation that exposes, illustrates or defines a question or problem as the first step, pre-empting the frequent question of "how does one form a hypothesis".  Sherlock, of course, would automatically say "observation and deduction", but he was fictitious.  That question and the proposed pre-emptive answer presuppose certain characteristics that it is not always correct to assume exist.  One is curiosity, which is generally absent in those who think that they already know all of the answers.  This is why politicians and certain others deeply committed to dogmas and ideologies can't seem to "get" or appreciate science.  Another is the ability to reason or apply logic to information in order to arrive at conclusions based on that information.  That, in turn, entails knowing the difference between information and assertions.  Two more obvious failings of politicians, pundits, talking heads, and a great many others.  Whatever, the very idea of a National Science Breakfast is off the table pretty much ab initio.

Lest somebody point out the need for doing basic research as a step to be inserted at one or more points in the above formulation, I will note that it is often included in such formulations.  As our knowledge base grows, the ability to do such research increases to a degree that was unimaginable a few hundred years ago and is still not always present.  Presumably, where these is a sufficient knowledge base, curiosity plus the ability to reason logically compounded with the ability to differentiate information from assertions would lead investigators to undertake said research.

CAVEAT:  There is an open question as to whether or not a somewhat similar process which starts with a large corporation funding an endeavor to verify some "hypothesis" that it specifies is technically "science", but that is beyond the scope of this writing.

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On this day in history:

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1525 – Aztec king Cuauhtémoc was executed on the order of Hernán Cortés

1638 – The Scottish National Covenant was signed in Edinburgh

1835 – Elias Lönnrot signed and dated the first version of the Kalevala

1922 – The United Kingdom formally recognized Egypt's independence

1947 – The Koumintang slaughtered roughly 30,000 civilians in Taiwan.

1972 – The US and China signed the Shanghai Communiqué.

1980 – Andalusia approved its statute of autonomy through a referendum.

1986 – Olof Palme was assassinated in Stockholm.  The killer and their employer remain unknown

1991 – The first Gulf War ended

1993 – BATF agents raided the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Four ATF agents and six Davidians died in the initial raid, starting a 51-day standoff.

1997 – A highly luminous flash of gamma rays, struck Earth for 80 seconds, providing early evidence that gamma-ray bursts occur well beyond the Milky Way.

2004 – Over one million Taiwanese participated in the 228 Hand-in-Hand rally  to commemorate the February 28 Incident in 1947.

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Born this day in:

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Everybody deserves a fresh start every once in a while.

~~      Bugsy Siegel

1533 – Michel de Montaigne, philosopher and author
1535 – Cornelius Gemma, astronomer and astrologer
1552 – Jost Bürgi, mathematician and clockmaker
1675 – Guillaume Delisle, cartographer
1683 – René Antoine Ferchault de Réaumur, entomologist and academic
1704 – Louis Godin, astronomer and academic
1878 – Pierre Fatou,  mathematician and astronomer
1896 – Philip Showalter Hench, physician and endocrinologist
1901 – Linus Pauling, chemist and activist
1906 – Bugsy Siegel, businessman
1907 – Milton Caniff, cartoonist
1909 – Stephen Spender, author and poet
1915 – Ketti Frings, author, playwright, and screenwriter
1915 – Peter Medawar, biologist and immunologist
1928 – Sylvia del Villard, actress, dancer, choreographer and Afro-Puerto Rican activist
1929 – John Montague, poet and academic
1930 – Leon Cooper, physicist and academic
1932 – Don Francks, actor, singer, and jazz musician
1942 – Brian Jones, guitarist, songwriter, and producer
1943 – Barbara Acklin, singer and songwriter
1946 – Syreeta Wright, singer and songwriter
1948 – Steven Chu, physicist and politician
1948 – Bernadette Peters, actress, singer, and author
1957 – Cindy Wilson, singer and songwriter
1967 – Seth Rudetsky, musician, actor, writer, and radio host

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Honest history is the weapon of freedom.

also

What we need is a rebirth of satire, of dissent, of irreverence, of an uncompromising insistence that phoniness is phony and platitudes are platitudinous.

~~     Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. 

1621 – Cosimo II de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany 
1929 – Clemens von Pirquet, physician and immunologist
1932 – Guillaume Bigourdan, astronomer and academic
1936 – Charles Nicolle, biologist and academic
2005 – Chris Curtis, singer and drummer
2006 – Owen Chamberlain, physicist and academic
2007 – Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. historian and critic
2013 – Donald A. Glaser, physicist and biologist
2019 – André Previn, pianist, conductor, and composer
2020 – Freeman Dyson, physicist and mathematician

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Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:

National Chocolate Souffle Day
National Public Sleeping Day
National Science Day
National Tooth Fairy Day aka Lie To Your Kids Day

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Music goes here, iirc, well, With apologies Wink

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Don Francks

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Brian Jones

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Barbara Acklin

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Syreeta Wright

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Cindly Wilson

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Chris Curtis

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Andre' Previn

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Please Note: Please do not post any Covid-19 related commentary in the comments. Thank you. There is a separate OT, aka The Dose, where all such material is welcome. Thanks again.

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Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. So what's on your mind?

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Lookout's picture

but generally speaking a common path is:
observe
hypothesize
EXPERIMENT or test
conclude

Science is a process of discovery to my mind. It certainly is not a body of knowledge because it is ever changing.

Do you go to a park to do your public sleeping today? Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm too busy to participate. Got to finish pruning, put out milky spore for the Jap Beetle grubs, take off the weed barriers in the garden (fold and store), and plant onions. So my plate is full.

I hope you all have a nice and productive day. Up to 60 and sunny here on the last day of Feb. Thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

thing though in some fields it is being undermined by procedures and protocols.

Wherever you choose to do your public sleeping (I recommend certain California beaches and state parks) be sure to make sure that the cops can see your hands from all possible vantage points, else you might never wake up.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

QMS's picture

A good song to start another manic Monday.
It is rather comical how political types like to
say things like 'follow the science' whenever it
suits their blathering, without a clue what said
science actually is. Perhaps they mean
follow the silence.

good day

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@QMS

card-carrying member of the Sweet Adelines for many, many years. She's better now, but she was very deeply involved in competitive womens barbershop harmony singing. The champions of each year's international competition are declared to be the "Queens of Harmony", and given crowns that they are then allowed to wear for the rest of their barbershop careers. In 1990, the winning quartet Ambiance did an a capella version of Rhapsody. Here it is- and it is still absolutely mindblowing to this day...

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables

can express in the various melodies.
Thanks for sharing this!

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question everything

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@QMS

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@QMS

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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US Bombed Somalia Amid Russian Invasion of Ukraine

.. as long as the U.S. military drops bombs around the world, "it will need to be written about, especially since there has never been anything more than sporadic U.S. reporting on the Somalia war. It needs to be written about now because it happened now."

This un-reported US aggression has been going on for 15 years.
All who doubt our propaganda are traitors.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/25/us-bombed-somalia-amid-russ...

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question everything

@QMS Q, I have no doubt that our propaganda is just that. In fact, I can anticipate the meme ahead of time. I am properly conditioned to believe the propaganda will come before it his psnooki's mike. I am no traitor!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@QMS

continually reported and the existing false narratives challenged by constant reminders of the real history they belie.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Look at Russia's moves around the Sea of Azov. Clearly this is the Russian bid for maritime superiority.

Air superiority has been achieved. Russia is no longer holding back.

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NYCVG

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@NYCVG

indeed. Apparently, they allowed themselves the luxury of destroying the Antonov AN-225 Mriya, the world's largest heavy-lift cargo aircraft, in its hangar at Gostomel Airport. It used to be a point of Soviet pride, flying their Buran space shuttles around. But since the dissolution of the Soviet Union its Ukranian builders have been using it for charter freight, including a number of humanitarian missions during the pandemic and other natural disasters.

It makes the Boeing 747 and Airbus 380 look quite petite. They only ever built the one. There is a partially-finished second airframe at Antonov's factory, but I'm sure that they will find some reason to go trash it as well.

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@NYCVG

And the rhyme of history brings us yet another, 5th, battle of Kharkov. But what of Odessa siting it out?

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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Looks like the home of the free is censoring RT too. The front page loads, but not the story cuz they don’t have permission. I checked orange state and found out that Eric Prince's mercenaries are the good guys. I just can’t. Even those who state that they are anti war have found ways to not be now.

I try to get news from many sources and then try to apply critical thinking, but looks like I’m limited to whatever my government thinks I should believe is the truth.

Where are others finding news?

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

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@snoopydawg

I thought this was an excellent way to describe the US war machine. A person called Putin a schoolyard bully.

On the contrary, the school bully has bribed, brow beaten and bullied all the other kids to back him up and shout at the bullied boy as he continues to pinch his dinner money, but what the bully and the rest of the kids backing the US bully don't realise is that the bullied kid has brought a shotgun to school, and he's had enough of being pushed around and bullied, now it's Vengeance time, this is the part where you lose your head.

The Olympic committee wants to ban Russian athletes from all games, but not Israel for what it’s doing in Palestinian. Or Saudi Arabia for their genocide in Yemen. Nor was there any talk about banning the US after it set the Middle East on fire and killed millions, displaced millions more and destroyed whole cities. Can y’all say hypocrisy. Sure you can.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

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@snoopydawg

the most relevant current news from Becket, Jarry, Snyder, Dylan, Bierce, Bodidharma, Basho and Lewis Carrol. They are the permanent verities and are rarely taken down by the narrative managers. Oops, left out Ferlinghetti, Genet, Camus, Ionesco, Kerouac and some others, but you can only stay so current before you get lost.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@snoopydawg
https://thesaker.is/
Also of course Moon of alabama.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
Another one I've started watching recently is Reminiscence of the future.
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@enhydra lutris

Where would I find them?

@Pricknick

I’m reading the 1st 2 and will check out the 3rd.

Apparently Russia didn’t actually turn the tide in WW2 because they beat Germany through their military, but because:

The myth of the Russian Bear, mighty and powerful. Look at Russian history: They don’t really win wars tactically, so much as pile enough dead Russian bodies in front of enemy machine guns that they overwhelm their foes.

Germany lost the war because of 27 million Russians blocked the road into Russia. And elsewhere I guess. I can’t stop laughing.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

@snoopydawg and they will say it was not a Russian General, it was February.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

What is conscience. I don't know because I didn't look it up. So it is not anything as far as I can tell. Nothing.

If you really want to do something new, the good won't help you with it. Let me have men about me that are arrant knaves. The wicked, who have
something on their conscience, are obliging, quick to hear threats, because
they know how it's done, and for booty. You can offer them things because
they will take them. Because they have no hesitations. You can hang them
if they get out of step. Let me have men about me that are utter villains
- provided that I have the power, the absolute power, over life and death.
-- Hermann Goering

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In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they actually change
their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really
do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are
human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot
recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.
-- Carl Sagan, 1987 CSICOP keynote address

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In the space of one hundred and seventy-six years the Mississippi has
shortened itself two hundred and forty-two miles. Therefore... in the Old Silurian Period the Mississippi River was upward of one million three hundred thousand miles long... seven hundred and forty-two years from now the Mississippi will be only a mile and three-quarters long. There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesome returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
-- Mark Twain

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Peace and Love

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@eyo

the other day, though I still have but little used it, and, of course, what I retrieved and installed doesn't have all of the libraries you do. Today I got:

fortune -m science
(literature)
%
Conscience doth make cowards of us all.
-- Shakespeare

followed by the Twain passage and that's it. Ah well, it's always good to see shaky bill pop up in responses to anything.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris thanks, good one. I added the "-a" switch to search all the libraries that come with BSD games on Slackware, since forever. The recommended Full Install includes obsolete well tested software that most people have forgotten. I love it. Old hackers have bigger funny bones I think. "-o" returns possibly offensive fortunes.

%% (fortunes-o)
Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western
religion, Rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of
Western science.
-- Gary Zukav, "The Dancing Wu Li Masters"

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Hardly a pure science, history is closer to animal husbandry than it is
to mathematics, in that it involves selective breeding. The principal
difference between the husbandryman and the historian is that the
former breeds sheep or cows or such, and the latter breeds (assumed)
facts. The husbandryman uses his skills to enrich the future; the
historian uses his to enrich the past. Both are usually up to their
ankles in bullshit.
-- Tom Robbins

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@eyo
ag@newspot:~$ fortune -ao
Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Richard Blum, husband of California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, dies at 86

WASHINGTON — Richard Blum, husband of California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, died Sunday after a long battle with cancer. He was 86.

Feinstein announced her husband's death in a statement Monday morning that said her “heart is broken today.”

She said her husband, a wealthy San Francisco investor, “left things better than he found them” and was devoted to his family. She described his work for the people of the Himalayas and noted he was a longtime friend of the Dalai Lama.

Queen - Another One Bites the Dust
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Peace and Love
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Hi all, Hi EL, Hope it's all good out there!

I forget who said it, but there is a quote I have always loved for how it explains science so well. To paraphrase, it was "Nothing is worse than a scientist on a committee, as when they get new information, they are too likely to change their minds!"

Yeah because the dogma of an entrenched position is so much better, and what committees are all about.

"To prove you have a mind, you have to be able to change it." - Matlock (Andy Griffith) on that TV show, to a jury. I am sure that has a better pedigree than I cite, it just caught my ear when my wife was watching a few decades ago.

To all the "follow the science" talking headbots I say, I would love to, if you would only let us see it.

I have proven some of the best top bird scientists to be wrong, more than once. With my high school diploma. Questions are the answer.

Brian Jones, that guy to whom a club owner said, yeah OK, what is the name of your band? To which Brian replied after quickly grabbing the closest record which was Muddy Waters, "The Rolling Stones". You may have heard of them. I think they were part of that second time there was a U.K. invasion on American shores.

The Searchers were great.

Science is a journey not a destination.

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

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@dystopian

not a destination, thanks for that.

Bird science is always fluid, if only because they can fly. My wife and I were on a birding trip in Panama and while riding along a somewhat coastal road in the tour short bus called out some macaws (I forget which) and the guide stopped the bus, went quasi-batshit and got on the phone to local bird central because that specific type of macaw hadn't been seen on the mainland in ages. I remember him at one point saying "Witnesses? I've got a bus full of 'em."

be well and have a good one

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https://www.zerohedge.com/

Ukraine & Russia Agree To Next Round Of Talks In "Coming Days" On Polish Border

This as Zelensky signed an application for Ukraine's membership to the European Union.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh

craziness in such affairs, or should I say "especially in such affairs".

Life is full of infinite absurdities, which, strangely enough, do not even need to appear plausible, since they are true.

--Luigi Pirandello

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

File under idk

A huge batch of drugs stamped with portraits of Russian President Vladimir Putin washed up on the beach in a Libyan coastal town, the Libya Observer outlet reported on Sunday.

Police in Al-Marj in the northeast of the country said 323 blocks of hashish, each wrapped in plastic and imprinted with the Russian president’s face, had been found by a local resident.

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@gjohnsit

323 blocks of hashish, but if I were to be wandering along the coast of Libya
and found that, it would be considered a bonanza, regardless of the plastic wrappings

Ha! sheesh Wink

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No, don't. But remember that day I looked up the Freedom Convoy guy whatshisname, on that public records website judysomething or other? Well oopsy daisy, some body went and looked up all the California lawyers from the State Bar's website on that judysomething court records site. Huh. I have relatives in the state bar database, never thought about invading their privacy like the friggin' SS but here we are. Achtung! Anyone been disciplined lately? Bailiff! Whack his ... never mind. wilson flip

https://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News/News-Releases/state-bar-of-california-addresses-breach-of-confidential-data

The State Bar announced today that it is taking urgent action to address a breach of confidential attorney discipline case data that it discovered on February 24. A public website that aggregates nationwide court case records was able to access and display limited case profile data on about 260,000 nonpublic State Bar attorney discipline case records, along with about 60,000 public State Bar Court case records. The site also appears to display confidential court records from other jurisdictions.

Under California Business and Professions Code 6086.1(b), all disciplinary investigations are confidential until the time that formal charges are filed, and all investigations are confidential until a formal proceeding is instituted.

The nonpublic case profile data from the State Bar appears to have been displayed on this public website in violation of this statute. It includes case number, file date, case type, case status, and respondent and complaining witness names. It does not include full case records. We do not yet know how many attorney or witness names were disclosed.

Oh pshaw, what is 260k out of millions? pinky lip Okay. I can't sleep, much. And I can't stop swearing, profanity be my most fluent language lately. Now where'd I put that pipe? Oh yeah,

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Peace aaaaaand Love
praise Bob

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@eyo

try this on for size
if it gives you the fits
wear it out

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question everything