80%+ Turnout Expected in Some WI Areas

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many polling places are logging numbers of 100 voters per hour, steady throughout the day. Some areas have 40 minute wait times. While the state clerk expects a 40% total statewide turnout, the highest for a primary in over 30 years, many locations are reporting and expecting much heavier turnout. For example

Wausau WI, Population 39,000 Expected voter turnout 60%
Waukesha County WI, Population 394,000 Expected voter turnout 80%
Appleton City, WI Population 75,600 Expected voter turnout ~85%!!!

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Was like that last week.

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that Wisconsin residents are sick and tired of Scott Walker and the morass that WI politics has become and vote for a shot at real change.

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So Wisconsin needs to give Bernie more at least a 62-38 spread for that to happen.

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"The working class mind is strange and unpredictable." -- Ty Lookwell

I posted a comment yesterday with a link to the extremely byzantine delegate selection process in place in Wisconsin.

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http://demrace.com/

It allows to construct scenarios. I use it to check on 538's stuff.

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"The working class mind is strange and unpredictable." -- Ty Lookwell

57 delegates are divided up amongst the state's 8 Congressional districts, based on those districts' "Democratic party performance" in 2012 and 2014. Sanders is going to win huge in Madison, but those huge wins might or might not translate into extra delegates. Madison's Congressional District, represented by Tammy Baldwin, was uber-Democratic in 2012 and 2014, so they will get a big share of those 57 delegates (in 2012, District 2 went 69% for Obama, providing 17.5% of his Wisconsin vote total). If the district share is 9 delegates, I could imagine Sanders taking 7 of them. But who knows? All I know is that the arithmetic is not going to be simple.

another 19 delegates are selected from a pool of applicants by a WI Dem Party committee. (the purpose appears to be to ensure that underrepresented groups are represented amongst the delegates ... what's not clear to me is whether the committee is required to selected delegates proportionally according to vote totals). I guess the applicants pledge themselves to a candidate, and are allocated proportionally according to the statewide vote.

another 10 delegates are apportioned entirely mysteriously -- they are pledged Dem Party bigwigs, as opposed to unpledged superdelegates -- but who selects them and how they are pledged, I couldn't tell you.

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Madison's Congressional District, represented by Tammy Baldwin

She used to. Mark Pocan represents the Madison CD, WI-02, now. Mark has worked with Bernie on Labor and Trade issues. Very good Representative.

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Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.

endorsed Hillary; Pocan has declined to endorse till after the primary (I think) or possible after the convention, I forget which.
Have been donating to Baldwin since her Dane county board days, even though she doesn't impress me as being very bright nor very assertive (have met her at multiple fundraiser parties). She was better than the alternatives. But I am donating what I usually give her to Bernie this cycle, plus whatever else I can spare from my incredibly meager budget.

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I wouldn't have noticed your reply save for the new notification system.

Yeah, I voted for Baldwin because it was the only choice. I am so not impressed. She channels Herb Kohl instead of Fightin' Bob or Feingold.

I've sent this email to Baldwin a couple of times in various forms:

Senator Baldwin, Thanks for being against the TPP surrender and voting against the fast track. My question to you is this: Now what? What are you going to do to change the odds of the TPP passing? OpEds in Wisconsin local fish wrappers? Interviews on local radio? Attend a pro fair trade rally? Organize a pro fair trade rally? I see you recording you opposition, which will look great when "progressive" groups tally their yearly score card, but is that the best you can are willing to do? When does the fight come? For what are you keeping your powder dry?

I have yet to get a reply. I've sent this same letter on other proggy issues too. The best I have ever got from her is a mealy-mouth reply expressing her "concern" and that I must "rest assured" that she will "monitor" the situation.

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Momentum May Matter (Just This Once) In Wisconsin

micah: Yeah, mark down this moment “Nate Silver Endorses The Big Mo’!”
harry: Nate has gone mainstream media. Sad day for journalism.
natesilver: Just for the Republicans, though! I don’t think momentum matters that much for the Democrats.

natesilver: Bernie winning by 15 would be a big deal, but not a huge, epic surprise. Like a magnitude 6.0 earthquake, not an 8.0.
... With all that said, the contrarian devil on my shoulder is saying that since it seems obvious to everyone that Sanders will beat his polls in Wisconsin, maybe we’re heading for a Clinton upset instead.

Is 538 in the Bag for Hillary?

I’ve based several articles on Silver’s flawed analyses of the primary races and have predicted a Clinton win, as most MSM pundits have, because Sanders doesn’t have and won’t get the delegates he needs to win in the upcoming big primary contests in New York, Pennsylvania, California, and New Jersey. I’ve never been more pleased to admit that I just may be wrong.

Enter Doug Hatlem, ... Hatlem’s peregrinations have quixotically led him to stop and consider numbers: specifically, the old adage about lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Hatlem claims that in 18 of 21 states outside the South, Silver’s predictions have a pro-Clinton bias of 12.5%. He bases his analysis from what polls predicted, on what 538 forecasted, and on the results from those primaries.

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C'mon, Nate, give us a scale, from Disappointing to Earthshaking.

Alternatively, you could STFU, since you're a numbers guy, not a political analyst.

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Don't know whether that's above or below average. 2008 final turnout was about 50%.

Sanders needs big turnouts in the UW-Madison wards.

Nico Savidge of the State Journal reported at 1:50PM that the ward containing the "Lucky Apartments, Witte, and Sellery Hall" (two of the dorms) had a turnout of 776 votes so far. I don't know how much they've redrawn the wards since 2008, as far as I can tell this corresponds to current Ward 49. In 2008, Ward 49 was listed as having a final turnout of about 500.

So ... that's promising, but incomplete info.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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Chicago used to do that all the time!
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Was voter #869 at Ward 49. Guy in front me in line couldn't vote because he had a Minnesota driver's license #WIPrimary #wivote

Decent number overall, I guess. Total ward 49 votes cast in the 2012 General were about 2000, 1400 of them for Barack Obama. We have to hope that a lot more students are going to vote later this afternoon and in the early evening.

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Total votes cast in 2008 Ward 65 = 1200.

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Was there a DPW pollwatcher present? In a rare fit of feeling the need to do something, the Dem Party of WI has been soliciting volunteers to poll-watch, to record issues with Walker's/Koch's voter ID law. I was #256 in my small, rural township (an hour SW of Madison) and it was interesting to see a pollwatcher present. While I was there, no one had problems as they had WI licenses, but the general feeling here is rightfully anti-Walker for the id law.

Did your poll workers offer to register the MN license guy on the spot? He would have had to have other items with him (the stupid list--most college ids are not ok, but a concealed carry permit is!) but they should have at least offered, I think.

Glad to say our township, like many others, is scrupulous about counting and reporting the vote--everyone is encouraged to be present after polls close and to observe the count and the "call in" when the totals are reported to the county clerk. I am so nervous about vote reporting elsewhere--both from Clinton dirty tricks, and from the expected voter suppression from the Repugs.

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(EDIT: Oops, I was delusional when I wrote this comment, see following comment.)
The guy just didn't have state ID, so he was out of luck. Sounds like he's not a student ... he'd have to get to the DMV, and it sounds like it just didn't fit into his work schedule.

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AGCC is happening.
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Your reports in these threads are invaluable. I should have inferred you were still referring to Madison, reading further I noticed all your comments related to the city..
I'm not much of a beer drinker, but think maybe I should pick up a 12 pack of New Glarus Spotted Cow. Wish I could email you a case of your choice Smile This is gonna be a long night!

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this stuff, mostly because I know these guys. (About 7 miles east of New Glarus Brewery, BTW.)

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On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

as Paoli is not far from here. If only we could resolve the tech issues of emailing beer Wink

My farm is two miles west of NG Brewery but they'd be broke if they depended on my beer purchases.

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AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Ward 49 is in the heart of UW-Madison student land.

In 2008 primary, it went 350/100/50 Obama/HRC/GOP -- Ms. Henschel indicates she was voter 869 at 2:30ish, so we're definitely looking at historic primary turnout. GE 2012 was 1415/579 Obama/Romney.

If the Minnesotan was a UW student, he would have been told to go to one of the two student Unions, where he could obtain an approved state-issued voter ID card. Apparently, it hasn't been taking too long, for those who have time to run over to the Union, get an ID, and run back to their polling place.

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AGCC is happening.
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Nico Savidge
‏@NSavidge
Inspector at ward 55 just off campus says they had 1,155 votes cast in 2008 primary. They're at 1,119 already today

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AGCC is happening.
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source than Jeff Glazer. He's got some interesting tweets about "minor" problems with Voter ID in Madison.

https://twitter.com/NSavidge

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Total votes in 2008 primary: approx 900.
Total votes in 2012 General: 2450

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Post-Crescent is a USAToday organ in the Fox Valley, has brief reports from around the state.

2:30 p.m., Green Bay

At the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay polling station, the wait time is 50 minutes. About 80 to 90 percent of the voters at that location are registering for the first time or needing to be registered. Non-students are complaining about the lack of parking and difficulty getting to the polling place.

“We have been waiting in line for about an hour, but it’s worth it,” said Lucas Wuensch, a 19-year-old UWGB sophomore from Crivitz. “There’s talk this is the longest line that’s ever been here for voting.”

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AGCC is happening.
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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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What time do the WI polls close?

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"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me

8pm Central time

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Thanks for the correction. I'll start watching for returns around 9pm EDT.

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

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It's a Primary so the voting places stay open until 7PM (CST). All voters waiting in line vote. Heavy turnout is what we need to pull this off. The New Hampshire Primary proved it.

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Some places are predicting GE levels. Dane County could be 60-70%, versus 50% in 2008 primary.

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AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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Data Point: 11:00am, WI-01. Email from a friend & poll worker:

Non stop voters coming in at my poll. Feels like a presidential election in November. It seems like everybody's voting. It's Awesome. Lot of new voters registering.

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Exit poll results from today's Democratic presidential primary in Wisconsin give rays of hope to both candidates, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/exit-polls-give...

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.