The Dose 11-21-21

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 6:09am

The column for COVID conversations.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shCMGfkKcgA&t=8s]

How did we get here? One Doctor's View On Shocking Covid-19 Issues In Australia (8 min)

Dr. Petrovsky is the founder of the vaccine company, Vaxine, funded by the US NIH to develop novel vaccine technologies. He has developed a protein subunit vaccine for COVID-19. He also serves as director of endocrinology at Flinders Medical Centre, Australia, and is vice-president and secretary-general of the international immunomics society https://vaxine.net/
Full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNfyx218i_E&t=0s

I've been saying for a while this is a pandemic managed for profit, and indeed big pharma has made big bucks. However, I've been a bit naive. The pandemic management has become as much about control and obedience as profits. Another means of control may occur when the tattered economy collapses and we are issued digital currency. I hope I'm wrong!

The suppression and control is global... Doctors world wide are being silenced.

Marik vs Sentara—The Right To Treat Hearing

After filing a complaint in the Circuit Court for the City of Norfolk, Virginia on November 9, 2021 (Case #CL21013852), Paul Marik, MD, one of the most highly published critical care physicians in the world and the Director of the ICU at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital will be given his day in court. The hearing set for Thursday, November 18, could lead to the reinstatement of several treatments that are currently banned by the Sentara Healthcare System.

Hearing Date and Time: Thurs., Nov. 18 at 1pm ET
The hearing in the lawsuit brought by Dr. Paul Marik against Sentara Health System was held today in a Norfolk, Virginia courtroom. The judge is considering the motion, and no date has been given for the ruling.

“This about standing up for the right of physicians across this country and across the world."

“I use a host of medications that have been proven in randomized controlled trials to reduce mortality from COVID-19, yet the hospital is prohibiting me from using them.”

“There are 10s of thousands of physicians across the world using this protocol, yet I am prohibited from using the medications in it. We have hospital administrators telling the bedside physician how to manage this complicated disease.”

A Talk With Prof. Dr. Paul Marik (11/17/2021) (45 min)

We are honored to have Prof. Dr. Paul Marik with us today. We will discuss the latest updates for his COVID management efforts.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXiDpMBvsO8]

Much of the same ground is covered in the following discussion.

So Paul is having to go to court to allow him to heal his patients. Meanwhile in the clip below we find out Dr Pierre Kory lost his third job this year. These men are heroes and having to fight to save patients lives.

As Dr. Paul Marik continues his fight to use proven, life-saving treatments to help save lives, he is joined by Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Joseph Varon—and together they discuss Marik’s case to fight for a doctor’s right to treat. On the one hand, Dr. Joseph Varon is able to freely treat his critically ill patients in his ICU with the MATH+ protocol, while on the other hand, Dr. Paul Marik has been handcuffed from using these medicines that he knows work best. Listen to the webinar as the FLCCC doctors discuss the importance of letting doctors be doctors by allowing them to treat their patients to the best of their ability.

The Great Reset is well underway.

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Submitted by ovals49 on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 8:15am

Heart health markers and COVID mRNA vaccines

The study author concluded that “mRNA [vaccines] dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.”

As a result, the 5-year ACS PULS risk score increased from 11% to 25%. By the time the report was published, changes had persisted for 2.5 months or more after the second vaccine dose.

Reference

Gundry SR. mRNA COVID vaccines dramatically increase endothelial inflammatory markers and ACS risk as measured by the PULS cardiac test: a warning. Presented at: AHA Scientific Sessions 2021; November 13-15, 2021. Poster VMP41.

Link

Why is it that this information is being reported by an independent researcher and not by our FDA or CDC, whose spokespersons continue to avow the utter safety of these vaccines to the public, even as they acknowledge a long list of serious side effects needing further study….but only INTERNALLY?

[If you have already begun reading Kennedy’s Fauci takedown you already know this is a rhetorical question on my part.]

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“The story around the world gives a silent testimony:
— The Beresovka mammoth, frozen in mud, with buttercups in his mouth…..”

The Adam and Eve Story, Chan Thomas 1963

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 8:22am

Why is it...

@ovals49

...that this information is being reported by an independent researcher and not by our FDA or CDC

Because the CDC, FDA, NIH, MSM, etc are owned and controlled by Pfizer, et. al.

It is difficult to find the data on adverse reactions and vaccine deaths, it has been suppressed. I continue to wonder, as does Dr John, how many of the heart problems are associated with inadvertent intravenous injections. Sure could be an easy study, aspirated injections vs non-aspirated jabs...but nooo. Shut up and do as you're told!

—

“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by CB on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 10:16am

We have known here at C99 that the vaccines

weren't "working as advertised" for well over six months. Why did TPTB not admit this up front instead of gaslighting us?

Fauci, Gates Admit COVID Vaccines Don’t Work as Advertised

In interviews just days apart, Bill Gates and Dr. Anthony Fauci admitted COVID vaccines aren’t effective, but both suggested the solution is to give more boosters to more people.

In two recent interviews, pandemic thought leaders Dr. Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates drastically changed their opinions on COVID vaccine effectiveness — and used their newfound concerns to push booster shots for the general population.

Last week, in an interview with Jeremy Hunt at London’s Policy Exchange, Gates admitted what many, including the Lancet, have been saying for months — that the vaccines aren’t effective.

Gates, who previously referred to the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines as “magic,” told Hunt “we need a new way of doing the vaccines.”

Only days later, Fauci echoed similar sentiments during a New York Times podcast. Fauci said the COVID vaccine’s effectiveness against infection, hospitalization and even death, for all age groups, is waning to the point where booster doses will become “essential” for everyone.

Fauci said: “I think the boosting is going to be an absolutely essential component of our response, not a bonus, not a luxury, but an absolute essential part of the program.”

Fauci said authorities are observing vaccine waning “involving all age groups.”

Making his case for a wider booster program, he told The Times the vaccines are “waning to the point that you’re seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital.”
...

So, the solution is to give "booster shots" despite concerns during this same half year that there has been mounting evidence of injury AND death that the mRNA gene therapies have been responsible for. Take note that the death rate for COVID-19 in the US is one of the highest in the world despite the country having one of the ~~best~~ most expensive health care system in the entire world.

I'm afraid we are also being gaslighted about the true safety of these minimally tested, novel gene therapies:

COVID Shots Are the Deadliest ‘Vaccines’ in Medical History

Story at-a-glance

Data suggest 1 in 317 boys aged 16 to 17 will get myocarditis from the COVID shots, and after a third booster, that number may be even higher

VAERS reporting is likely underreported by a factor of 41. Since there are over 8,000 domestic deaths reported to VAERS, and 98% of those deaths are “excess deaths,” this suggests that as many as 300,000 Americans may have died from the COVID shots thus far

Calculations based on government data from 35% of the world’s population suggest we’re killing approximately 411 people per million doses on average. Moderna and Pfizer are both two-dose regimens, which pushes this to 822 deaths per million fully vaccinated. And that’s just the short-term mortality. We still have no concept of how these shots might impact mortality and morbidity in the longer term

An Italian investigation found that if the COVID mortality definition were changed to only include those cases where there were no preexisting comorbidities, the mortality from COVID comes out to just 2.9% of the overall reported number. This suggests that if a COVID death was redefined to being a death actually “from” COVID rather than “with” COVID, the death count could be substantially smaller than 760,000 deaths and may be smaller than the number killed by the vaccines

The deadliest vaccine ever made is the smallpox vaccine, which killed 1 in 1 million vaccinated people. The COVID shots kills 822 per million fully vaccinated, making it more than 800 times deadlier than the deadliest vaccine in human history

...

The one thing that we can sure of, TPTB's ONLY solution is to throw increasing billions of cash at the problem. Along with this massive amount of money we are being subject to increasingly tighter, in some countries absolutely draconian controls on our everyday lives.

To make mattered even worse, there is NO allowance for medical doctors to apply known prophylactics to lesson the disease and death caused by SARS-CoV-2 until it gets so bad that it requires hospitalization. And, to add insult to injury, any doctor doing otherwise is penalized or even outright disbarred from practising medicine. This has never before happened during any health emergency we have encountered since doctors first learned to wash their hands before working with patients.

In hindsight, I have come to the conclusion that this has been the modus operandi of the extremely wealthy and powerful to herd the hoi polloi towards The New World Order. Or it's new euphemism in the US, Build Back Better which entails the same thing by simply destroying that which came before. This has already been publicly discussed as the end game at each WEF Davos meeting for almost 10 years so it's well known.

When are people going to wake up?

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 10:39am

Absolutely...

@CB

... there is NO allowance for medical doctors to apply known prophylactics to lesson the disease and death caused by SARS-CoV-2 until it gets so bad that it requires hospitalization. And, to add insult to injury, any doctor doing otherwise is penalized or even outright disbarred from practising medicine. This has never before happened during any health emergency we have encountered since doctors first learned to wash their hands before working with patients.
In hindsight, I have come to the conclusion that this has been the modus operandi of the extremely wealthy and powerful to herd the hoi polloi towards The New World Order. Or it's new euphemism in the US, Build Back Better which entails the same thing by simply destroying that which came before.

The great reset before our eyes...
Mass protests against lockdowns and vaccines in Prague, Rome, Amsterdam

Protests against renewed Covid-19 restrictions turned violent in The Hague. The unrest comes a day after several demonstrators in another Dutch city, Rotterdam, were injured amid police gunfire.

Protests erupt over COVID restrictions in Austria, Italy, Croatia, w/ pictures

Demonstrations against virus restrictions also took place in Switzerland, Croatia, Italy, Northern Ireland and the Netherlands on Saturday, a day after Dutch police opened fire on protesters and seven people were injured in rioting that erupted in Rotterdam.

Protesters rallied against coronavirus restrictions and mandatory COVID-19 passes required in many European countries to enter restaurants, Christmas markets or sports events, as well as mandatory vaccinations.

TPTB are trying to make this a rt vs lt event, but seems it is pretty evenly mixed to me.

Take care!

weren't "working as advertised" for well over six months. Why did TPTB not admit this up front instead of gaslighting us?

Fauci, Gates Admit COVID Vaccines Don’t Work as Advertised

In interviews just days apart, Bill Gates and Dr. Anthony Fauci admitted COVID vaccines aren’t effective, but both suggested the solution is to give more boosters to more people.

In two recent interviews, pandemic thought leaders Dr. Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates drastically changed their opinions on COVID vaccine effectiveness — and used their newfound concerns to push booster shots for the general population.

Last week, in an interview with Jeremy Hunt at London’s Policy Exchange, Gates admitted what many, including the Lancet, have been saying for months — that the vaccines aren’t effective.

Gates, who previously referred to the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines as “magic,” told Hunt “we need a new way of doing the vaccines.”

Only days later, Fauci echoed similar sentiments during a New York Times podcast. Fauci said the COVID vaccine’s effectiveness against infection, hospitalization and even death, for all age groups, is waning to the point where booster doses will become “essential” for everyone.

Fauci said: “I think the boosting is going to be an absolutely essential component of our response, not a bonus, not a luxury, but an absolute essential part of the program.”

Fauci said authorities are observing vaccine waning “involving all age groups.”

Making his case for a wider booster program, he told The Times the vaccines are “waning to the point that you’re seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital.”
...

So, the solution is to give "booster shots" despite concerns during this same half year that there has been mounting evidence of injury AND death that the mRNA gene therapies have been responsible for. Take note that the death rate for COVID-19 in the US is one of the highest in the world despite the country having one of the ~~best~~ most expensive health care system in the entire world.

I'm afraid we are also being gaslighted about the true safety of these minimally tested, novel gene therapies:

COVID Shots Are the Deadliest ‘Vaccines’ in Medical History

Story at-a-glance

Data suggest 1 in 317 boys aged 16 to 17 will get myocarditis from the COVID shots, and after a third booster, that number may be even higher

VAERS reporting is likely underreported by a factor of 41. Since there are over 8,000 domestic deaths reported to VAERS, and 98% of those deaths are “excess deaths,” this suggests that as many as 300,000 Americans may have died from the COVID shots thus far

Calculations based on government data from 35% of the world’s population suggest we’re killing approximately 411 people per million doses on average. Moderna and Pfizer are both two-dose regimens, which pushes this to 822 deaths per million fully vaccinated. And that’s just the short-term mortality. We still have no concept of how these shots might impact mortality and morbidity in the longer term

An Italian investigation found that if the COVID mortality definition were changed to only include those cases where there were no preexisting comorbidities, the mortality from COVID comes out to just 2.9% of the overall reported number. This suggests that if a COVID death was redefined to being a death actually “from” COVID rather than “with” COVID, the death count could be substantially smaller than 760,000 deaths and may be smaller than the number killed by the vaccines

The deadliest vaccine ever made is the smallpox vaccine, which killed 1 in 1 million vaccinated people. The COVID shots kills 822 per million fully vaccinated, making it more than 800 times deadlier than the deadliest vaccine in human history

...

The one thing that we can sure of, TPTB's ONLY solution is to throw increasing billions of cash at the problem. Along with this massive amount of money we are being subject to increasingly tighter, in some countries absolutely draconian controls on our everyday lives.

To make mattered even worse, there is NO allowance for medical doctors to apply known prophylactics to lesson the disease and death caused by SARS-CoV-2 until it gets so bad that it requires hospitalization. And, to add insult to injury, any doctor doing otherwise is penalized or even outright disbarred from practising medicine. This has never before happened during any health emergency we have encountered since doctors first learned to wash their hands before working with patients.

In hindsight, I have come to the conclusion that this has been the modus operandi of the extremely wealthy and powerful to herd the hoi polloi towards The New World Order. Or it's new euphemism in the US, Build Back Better which entails the same thing by simply destroying that which came before. This has already been publicly discussed as the end game at each WEF Davos meeting for almost 10 years so it's well known.

When are people going to wake up?

—

“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 11:28am

"Will this work?"

@CB

"Yes."

"It’s not working."

"You need 2."

"It’s still not working."

"You need a booster."

"It still doesn’t seem to be working."

"You need another booster."

"Now that I’ve had 4 shots do I still need to wear a mask?"

"Yes until everyone is jabbed because so far yours aren’t enough to keep you from getting infected."

"Huh? Are you just moving the goalposts?"

"……"

Gotta love this:

Fauci said: “I think the boosting is going to be an absolutely essential component of our response, not a bonus, not a luxury, but an absolute essential part of the program.”

"You got any proof that it’ll work this time?"

"You’ll need to get a booster every 6 months for it to work. And yes you should still wear a mask."

Again:

Every Friday, VAERS publishes vaccine injury reports received as of a specified date. Reports submitted to VAERS require further investigation before a causal relationship can be confirmed.

Funny how no one had a problem with this system before because it was always used as an early warning sign that something is going wrong. But for some reason the shitlibs say it can’t be used because everyone and their dawg can submit a report. How people can talk themselves into believing something that isn’t true will remain one of life’s mysteries.

weren't "working as advertised" for well over six months. Why did TPTB not admit this up front instead of gaslighting us?

Fauci, Gates Admit COVID Vaccines Don’t Work as Advertised

In interviews just days apart, Bill Gates and Dr. Anthony Fauci admitted COVID vaccines aren’t effective, but both suggested the solution is to give more boosters to more people.

In two recent interviews, pandemic thought leaders Dr. Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates drastically changed their opinions on COVID vaccine effectiveness — and used their newfound concerns to push booster shots for the general population.

Last week, in an interview with Jeremy Hunt at London’s Policy Exchange, Gates admitted what many, including the Lancet, have been saying for months — that the vaccines aren’t effective.

Gates, who previously referred to the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines as “magic,” told Hunt “we need a new way of doing the vaccines.”

Only days later, Fauci echoed similar sentiments during a New York Times podcast. Fauci said the COVID vaccine’s effectiveness against infection, hospitalization and even death, for all age groups, is waning to the point where booster doses will become “essential” for everyone.

Fauci said: “I think the boosting is going to be an absolutely essential component of our response, not a bonus, not a luxury, but an absolute essential part of the program.”

Fauci said authorities are observing vaccine waning “involving all age groups.”

Making his case for a wider booster program, he told The Times the vaccines are “waning to the point that you’re seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital.”
...

So, the solution is to give "booster shots" despite concerns during this same half year that there has been mounting evidence of injury AND death that the mRNA gene therapies have been responsible for. Take note that the death rate for COVID-19 in the US is one of the highest in the world despite the country having one of the ~~best~~ most expensive health care system in the entire world.

I'm afraid we are also being gaslighted about the true safety of these minimally tested, novel gene therapies:

COVID Shots Are the Deadliest ‘Vaccines’ in Medical History

Story at-a-glance

Data suggest 1 in 317 boys aged 16 to 17 will get myocarditis from the COVID shots, and after a third booster, that number may be even higher

VAERS reporting is likely underreported by a factor of 41. Since there are over 8,000 domestic deaths reported to VAERS, and 98% of those deaths are “excess deaths,” this suggests that as many as 300,000 Americans may have died from the COVID shots thus far

Calculations based on government data from 35% of the world’s population suggest we’re killing approximately 411 people per million doses on average. Moderna and Pfizer are both two-dose regimens, which pushes this to 822 deaths per million fully vaccinated. And that’s just the short-term mortality. We still have no concept of how these shots might impact mortality and morbidity in the longer term

An Italian investigation found that if the COVID mortality definition were changed to only include those cases where there were no preexisting comorbidities, the mortality from COVID comes out to just 2.9% of the overall reported number. This suggests that if a COVID death was redefined to being a death actually “from” COVID rather than “with” COVID, the death count could be substantially smaller than 760,000 deaths and may be smaller than the number killed by the vaccines

The deadliest vaccine ever made is the smallpox vaccine, which killed 1 in 1 million vaccinated people. The COVID shots kills 822 per million fully vaccinated, making it more than 800 times deadlier than the deadliest vaccine in human history

...

The one thing that we can sure of, TPTB's ONLY solution is to throw increasing billions of cash at the problem. Along with this massive amount of money we are being subject to increasingly tighter, in some countries absolutely draconian controls on our everyday lives.

To make mattered even worse, there is NO allowance for medical doctors to apply known prophylactics to lesson the disease and death caused by SARS-CoV-2 until it gets so bad that it requires hospitalization. And, to add insult to injury, any doctor doing otherwise is penalized or even outright disbarred from practising medicine. This has never before happened during any health emergency we have encountered since doctors first learned to wash their hands before working with patients.

In hindsight, I have come to the conclusion that this has been the modus operandi of the extremely wealthy and powerful to herd the hoi polloi towards The New World Order. Or it's new euphemism in the US, Build Back Better which entails the same thing by simply destroying that which came before. This has already been publicly discussed as the end game at each WEF Davos meeting for almost 10 years so it's well known.

When are people going to wake up?

—

The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

Submitted by gjohnsit on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 2:31pm

Can we now admit that Jimmy Dore has changed?

A couple weeks ago I pointed out that Jimmy Dore had made deliberately misleading videos.
Despite this being obvious, I was told "Jimmy was not lying." "you are playing a game of semantics." "Dore got it right."

Well, do you know who agrees with me? Jimmy Dore.

Jimmy doesn't take responsibility, but he at least admits that the article was rewritten and the meaning was changed.

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 3:02pm

Yes I saw that...

@gjohnsit

You seem to hold a comedian in his garage to higher standard than say the NYslimes, or WaPo, of all the other MSM outlets who never own up to any mistakes and rarely offer a retraction.

Like this story for example...
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/11/new-york-times-invents-sexual-assa...
https://twitter.com/shen_shiwei/status/1461715435385020419

or Russiagate or...

Jimmy isn't perfect, but IMO he tries to see through the propaganda and report on the empire. Obviously YMMV.

—

“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by gjohnsit on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 3:09pm

So I was right

@Lookout
but that just means that I was being unfair.

Is that your point?

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 3:18pm

look, I didn't comment on your first posting on this issue...

@gjohnsit

Yes, Jimmy made a mistake. But I still think he does better reporting than most...especially from his garage.

You are entitled to your own opinion.

—

“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by wokkamile on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 3:32pm

Well, "Jimmy made

@gjohnsit deliberately misleading videos" is a little misleading itself. As he stated in the video, it was his producer who had sloppily assembled the words to render an inaccurate quote. Jimmy innocently read what his producer had put together, not aware of the misquote.

He puts out a lot of product in a given week, and has an arrangement where he relies on his producer to an important extent for the substance, and usually the result is solid. But good for him for owning up to the mistake publicly which as he notes in the video most other podcasters are not inclined to do. And going public on YT seems an adequate and appropriate way to "take responsibility" for the error.

Submitted by CB on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 5:23pm

It didn't negate the situation

@gjohnsit
in Singapore at all. The thrust of the situation played out exactly as Dore originally stated. Increasing vaccination does not ensure lowering case rate. In fact it has turned out to be worse than Dore originally opined with an increasing death rate despite increasing vaccination rate plus lock-downs and social distancing of the unvaccinated.

COVID-19: Singapore reports 1,670 new cases, 8 deaths
7 hrs ago
SINGAPORE — The Ministry of Health (MOH) on Sunday (21 November) confirmed 1,670 new COVID-19 cases in Singapore – bringing the country's total case count to 252,188 – as well as eight deaths due to the disease.
...
As of Saturday, 94 per cent of Singapore's eligible population – aged 12 and above – have received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines or completed their full regimen.

Among the total population, 85 per cent have received two doses, 86 per cent have received at least one dose, and 23 per cent have received their booster shots.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 5:27pm

I wondering if you watched the video

@gjohnsit

cuz if you did you’d have heard him tell you what happened. Or don’t you accept what he said? He’s called anti vax even tho at the beginning of his shows he says he isn’t and got jabbed twice. He also got injured from it. But people just believe what they want to believe anymore.

—

The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 11:37am

Can't argue with that

@snoopydawg

But people just believe what they want to believe anymore.

When I pointed out that the document on the Dore episode had been rewritten to change its meaning, no one believed it here, nor on the subreddit I posted the same thing to.
And even after Dore admitted that the document had been rewritten, some STILL don't believe it. While most everyone else thinks that the problem here is me.

This is very Russiagate-like.

Submitted by CB on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 12:17pm

How did that error change the 'thrust' of his message

@gjohnsit
about the increases in cases despite the high vaccination rate in Singapore?

Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 1:45pm

You should ask Jimmy Dore that

@CB
after he said he fired someone for rewriting that article and changing the meaning.
Because there is zero possibility that you'll believe me no matter what I say.

Submitted by CB on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 5:05pm

All Dore admitted guilt for

@gjohnsit
were that the words showing on his graphic should not have been framed that way because it was not a verbatim quote from the source. His producer made an error by paraphrasing.

But, Dore did confirm that this error did not in any way affect the "thrust" of his final conclusion - that, despite strict measures to prevent infections plus increasing numbers of vaccinations, the case rate and deaths in Singapore had been climbing.

I have to agree with Jimmy Dore. His final statement was truthful. All you are doing is playing a game of semantics.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 5:20pm

So you don't believe Dore either

@CB
Because he said that the meaning was changed.
That's fine. Call Jimmy Dore a liar. You believe what you want to believe.

And he fired someone over semantics.

Submitted by CB on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 5:39pm

It didn't affect in anyway the thrust and meaning

@gjohnsit
of his statement. DESPITE STRICT CONTROLS PLUS A HIGH VACCINATION RATE, CASE AND DEATH RATE IN SINGAPORE DID NOT GO DOWN.

The only reason Dore fired the producer is that it left him vulnerable to people like you and others who are intent on "getting" him by any means possible.

What caused you to dislike him so much?

Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 6:40pm

An employer

@CB

The only reason Dore fired the producer is that it left him vulnerable to people like you and others who are intent on "getting" him by any means possible.

That would make Jimmy Dore kind of an asshole then.
I mean if the producer didn't do anything wrong as you seem to be saying, then Dore fired him for bullsh*t reasons.
You are defending employers who fire people who are doing a good job and not making any mistakes.

Submitted by CB on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 8:41pm

He was fired as a producer for writing

@gjohnsit
an item that Dore was to use as a fact that vaccination rates are not directly related to cases and/or deaths. He expected it to be a word-for-word copy of the salient points of the news item. But the producer paraphrased what the piece had stated and Dore didn't know he had done that. If anything it is people like YOU yourself who were the cause of the producer getting reprimanded and fired. Jimmy Dore has to walk on eggshells because he has been so maligned in the past. BTW, I can give you a dozen countries where this same effect has occured - one of them being the US. Even Fauci had to admit this in the last week.

BTW, you were wrong about the COVID-19 pandemic coming to an end in the US. This pandemic will not end. It will become endemic with the waves of infection becoming shallower and shallower as natural immunity gradually builds up in the populace as well as the culling of the frail and those with comorbidity with time.

Unfortunately what may throw a bone into this is that the leaky, ineffective and non-sterilizing vaccines may themselves create an unknown factor into the historical course of pandemics. Gaining 'immunity' from the brand new, minimally tested mRNA vaccines is not comparable to natural immunity and may even prevent this from ever being attained due to a number of scientific factors chief of which is: "Original Antigenic Sin: the Downside of Immunological Memory and Implications for COVID-19". Nobody knows how this massive, world wide vaccination program with little tested genetic therapies will end. We may end up seeing many more deaths from the 'cure' than from the 'disease'.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 11/23/2021 - 9:57am

LMAO

@CB

an item that Dore was to use as a fact that vaccination rates are not directly related to cases and/or deaths.

You mean that paragraph that talked about COVID vaccines, in a story about COVID cases?

If anything it is people like YOU yourself who were the cause of the producer getting reprimanded and fired.

Oh, really! This conversation is getting extremely amusing.

BTW, you were wrong about the COVID-19 pandemic coming to an end in the US.

So you've seen into the future?

Submitted by CB on Tue, 11/23/2021 - 11:16am

I cheated and had a peak or two into the future

@gjohnsit

Coronavirus in the U.S.: Where cases are growing and declining
Updated Nov. 23

COVID-19-cases are surging. Respiratory viruses are rising. And tens of millions of eligible Americans remain unvaccinated as the holiday season begins.
...
The rising number of new cases are worrying U.S. experts who are seeing similar patterns in Europe. Austria is responding with a lockdown beginning Monday and will impose a nationwide vaccine mandate in February. Germany is considering a lockdown as cases there skyrocket. In the U.S. 62 million Americans remain eligible for vaccines but have not gotten a jab, leaving them at high risk for infection. At the same time, over 85 percent of U.S. counties are experiencing substantial or high transmission.
...

Plus:

World/Countries/United States/Coronavirus Cases daily:
November 23, 2021

Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 5:38pm

So what?

@gjohnsit

Seriously so what. He explained what happened but you still want to nail him to the wall. If you don’t like what he says then don’t watch him. Lots of media folks get things wrong and either offer a retraction or just go on their merry way. Jimmy addressed what happened and yet here you are spiking something. Plus you didn’t answer my question. Did you watch it?

So Russia Gate. What does that even mean? Doesn’t make sense.

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 6:45pm

Am I?

@snoopydawg

Seriously so what. He explained what happened but you still want to nail him to the wall.

I'm being told that Dore didn't make any mistakes. So there is nothing for me to criticize him for.
Yet Dore fired someone for making a mistake.
And no one here wants to clear up this contradiction.

This alone makes it worth mentioning.
When I see a group that flat-out refuses to even acknowledge an obvious logical paradox, that's worth exploring.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 7:17pm

Huh?

@gjohnsit

And no one here wants to clear up this contradiction.

This alone makes it worth mentioning.
When I see a group that flat-out refuses to even acknowledge an obvious logical paradox, that's worth exploring.

What’s to clear up? A mistake was made, it was admitted, it was corrected and explained why it was so why not move on? Where’s the contradiction? I didn’t ever say that he’s not 100% correct on everything. Every person makes mistakes at some point in their lives. I’m wrong a lot of times and just say thanks when people tell me that. Seriously I just don’t get your point. Again. DID YOU WATCH IT? It’s not a hard question.

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The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 7:35pm

Fine

@snoopydawg

A mistake was made, it was admitted, it was corrected and explained why it was so why not move on?

Yeh, that's what I thought too. Yet CB is telling me straight up that no mistake was made on Dore's show, and no one but me is disagreeing.
And this is not even close to the first time something like this has happened here.

Every person makes mistakes at some point in their lives. I’m wrong a lot of times and just say thanks when people tell me that. Seriously I just don’t get your point.

My point is that if I was to rewrite an article that changed the meaning of it, no one here would call it a "mistake". I would be called a "liar". No one would cut me any slack. No one would give me the benefit of the doubt.
And rightly so. Because I would be a liar.

Again. DID YOU WATCH IT? It’s not a hard question.

No, it isn't a hard question.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 9:48pm

Tell you what

@gjohnsit

If you make a mistake here I’ll let you know.. and when you say my bad I’ll forgive you. Hey most people make them. It’s what you do when it’s discovered.

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The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

Submitted by CB on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 7:56pm

So, tell me about this "logical paradox" that's worth exploring

@gjohnsit

When I see a group that flat-out refuses to even acknowledge an obvious logical paradox, that's worth exploring.

Submitted by wokkamile on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 3:00pm

Just came in over

the transom, Steve Kirsch in his latest Substack newsletter says Biden's latest doctor exam discloses a "mild peripheral neuropathy" which SK ascribes to his recent (Sept 27) booster shot. 80% of those with vax injuries report peripheral neuropathy issues.

He also says he's found additional sources to confirm that Gov Newsom is suffering GBS from his vaccinations.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/biden-is-highly-likely-vaccine-injured

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 3:05pm

Thanks for the report...

@wokkamile

makes you wonder if they (Newsom and Byedone) still want to jab all the kids doesn't it.

At least the adverse reactions don't seem bias.

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Tue, 11/23/2021 - 2:44pm

Biden has a long history of aneurisms

@wokkamile

and he is old enough to have peripheral nerve damage that just comes from aging. Kirsch is full of you know what... and so are his hidden sources on Newsom.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/coronavirus-verify/video-...

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scicheck-viral-posts-make-unfounded-cl...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/10/steve-kirsch/claim-abo...

Really, this is too easy to check up on.

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Submitted by ggersh on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 4:00pm

This is UFB, TOTALLY INSANE

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fauci-says-babies-toddlers-eligible-c...

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 4:18pm

There's money in those baby arms...

@ggersh

I'm just watching the RFK interview someone (maybe you) posted.

The depravity of our system is so sad.

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Submitted by ovals49 on Mon, 11/22/2021 - 5:06am

^^THIS^^

@Lookout @Lookout
[I’m speechless]

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“The story around the world gives a silent testimony:
— The Beresovka mammoth, frozen in mud, with buttercups in his mouth…..”

The Adam and Eve Story, Chan Thomas 1963

Submitted by CB on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 6:20pm

For comparison to the regular flu

@ggersh @ggersh

Number of deaths due to influenza during the 2019-2020 flu season in the United States, by age group*

0-4 347 (2018-2019 216)
5-17 139 (2018-2019 156)

The flu vaccine has been in use for 50 years. The COVID vaccine has a little over two years of testing/use but has amassed tens of thousands of reports to VEARS during that time.

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 6:23pm

It is amazing...

@CB

This conversation about the implications of the endemic COVID disease has so many social, political, economic, etc ramifications it make your head spin. No wonder we see the massive protests....really world wide. No wonder they try to divide along racial, RW/LW, anti-vax/vaxed and so on. Don't look at your feudalistic draconian future, focus on those who think differently. You'll all suffer the same fate.

Where is V?

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Submitted by CB on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 6:37pm

Russell Brand comments

@Lookout
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj0M0dqTRUQ]

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 6:53pm

A sci-fi world indeed...

@CB

I’m just surprised that more people aren’t watching and referring to the movie V for Vendetta, which also revolves around a virus called the St. Mary’s virus. The world desperately needs a real V.

There are really a lot of parallels today. I wonder if the “little people” know that the elite have been planning or playing with the idea of a virus for years. Probably not—it’s hard to imagine anyone could be as evil as the Nazis, Soviets, or Chicoms because that was ancient history and human nature has obviously changed. A great virus to smite humanity has been the subject of lots of sci-fi novels and movies over the years. And now, as usual, life is imitating art.

Let’s fantasize for a moment. Perhaps the elite, who mostly masquerade as philanthropists, will rationalize their plan as a way to cleanse the gene pool, reducing the population by 80 or 90%. I have no doubt these people could justify a viral plague as a way to save Gaia from a human plague. Perhaps the vaccine will actually be the real vector, killing some after a time and sterilizing the rest. Perhaps it will serve as a catalyst for the vaccinated, the obedient 80%, to put the independent unvaccinated 20% in camps. Perhaps the current virus is just the first gambit, and after the Delta and Mu strains a genuinely serious Zeta variant will present itself.

Anything is possible. We’re living in a science-fiction world at this point.

https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/a-guy-just-telling-it-as-it-is/

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 7:23pm

That’s good

@Lookout

So many similarities to V that sometimes I wonder if I’m living in a movie.

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The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 7:17pm

I thought this article good

https://thehub.ca/2021-11-19/caylan-ford-like-covid-digital-passports-co...

Not sure which parts to excerpt so here’s the ending.

To the extent that vaccine passports are plainly irrational — for example, by failing to recognize natural immunity — compliance with such a regime is demoralizing. And like so many emergency or war-times measures of times past, we can expect these new mechanisms of surveillance and control to remain with us in the post-pandemic era, repurposed for new ends.

If you support the use of digital passports, it’s probably because you agree with the criterion on which they discriminate. You are vaccinated, and you want other people to get vaccinated. You may even believe that non-compliant individuals deserve to be socially excluded. But what if the standards change? What if, one day, your QR code flags you as an undesirable, based on criteria that seem arbitrary, unjust, or entirely mysterious? We speak of totalitarianism as the image of the boot stomping on the human face forever. This is not a boot, but an algorithm in the cloud: emotionless, impervious to appeal, silently shaping the biomass.

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The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 7:19pm

Pretty good reveal of Gates...

by Max Blumenthal and our favorite jagoff comedian. (1 hour - listen to what you want)

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCQVkpWMcE]

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 10:36pm

Extremely interesting video!

@Lookout @Lookout Much appreciated.
Years ago, I found a recipe for butternut squash soup that entailed navy beans, and cumin was the main spice.
I remember it was sensational, but not where the recipe might be found in my home.
Anyway, use your skills and imagination.
I am packing for Gulf Shores!
Edit: I remember Better than Bouillon, chicken flavor, was used.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 11/21/2021 - 8:17pm

Excellent

"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" is a political slogan, not science. They accuse the un-vaxxed of being a health hazard while urging the vaxxed to get a second and third booster because the vax is failing. Cognitive dissonance at it's finest! - norb

A comment on MoA

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Tue, 11/23/2021 - 3:08pm

I've read about the case between Marik and his hospital.

It appears that Marik is sticking to his guns about Ivermectin, but doesn't realize that there are no bullets in the chambers.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/10/ivermectin-research-...

The claims we see over and over and over again about Ivermectin being a miracle drug against Covid are just sitting on sinking ground and have been for a long time. Most don't know it because of the hype coming from the near cult like support this drug has developed on social media. As I've mentioned before, there are researchers who actually are looking at all the data on Ivermectin and all the research claims, etc. etc. It continues to not even get close to the mark needed to support the kind of usage being promoted. And beyond that, as the Atlantic article points out, we have an even bigger problem with the whole arena of published scientific papers and projects that are making it out into the social media BEFORE being thoroughly vetted within scientific communities.

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin