if you think that the unvaxxed are stupid m'fers who don't deserve to live. That they should be segregated and placed in re-education camps. That they are all wingnuts (except for AAs that make up one of the largest blocks of unvaxxed, oh hell they didn't get jabbed so they qualify as wingnuts as well) that should get off my planet. They are so brain dead that even Darwin doesn't know how to deal with them. They should be held down and vaccinated anyway, maybe add a chokehold and a knee to the neck. They should lose their jobs, hell, they shouldn't even be allowed to buy groceries. They are all animals, I hope they all die. Don't they know that I am the smartest person in the room and they best listen to me.
if you think the vaxxed are stupid m'fers that don't deserve to live. They were too stupid to do the research before they took the jab and now they should be segregated into re-education camps because they are shedding spike proteins and are a hazard to myself and my family. There is a special place in hell for folks that want to jab everyone. Darwin has a plan for these authoritarians, right next to the nazis. I can't wait for this winter when they begin to die off, serves them right to suffer. Don't they know that I am the smartest person in the room and they best listen to me.
then congratulations, you have been propagandized, brain raped, gaslit, and used by those that wish to divide us. Bernays would be amazed. Perhaps you deserve a Darwin Award.
On top of all that, you should be ashamed of yourself for letting hate dictate your life.
@JtC
This isn't coming from C99P. So what are you watching?
then congratulations, you have been propagandized, brain raped, gaslit, and used by those that wish to divide us. Bernays would be amazed. Perhaps you deserve a Darwin Award.
On top of all that, you should be ashamed of yourself for letting hate dictate your life.
@gjohnsit
and right here at c99 where it's just barely held at bay because of our rules. It does occasionally spill over. Don't be coy, you know exactly what I mean.
What are you insinuating asking me what I watch? I take that as an insult. Go ahead, get your hate on. This is the place for it.
#3
This isn't coming from C99P. So what are you watching?
#3.1
and right here at c99 where it's just barely held at bay because of our rules. It does occasionally spill over. Don't be coy, you know exactly what I mean.
What are you insinuating asking me what I watch? I take that as an insult. Go ahead, get your hate on. This is the place for it.
@JtC
No, I didn't insult you. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
Maybe it's time for me to move on.
BTW, I don't watch cable news. Ever. I don't even bother with local news.
So I don't experience this 'hate' that you speak of.
Maybe you should cut down on your intake of them.
Are you not aware that this can be construed as an insult also?
Maybe you should cut down on your intake of them.
Are you that tone deaf? Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it.
#3.1.1.1.1
No, I didn't insult you. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
Maybe it's time for me to move on.
BTW, I don't watch cable news. Ever. I don't even bother with local news.
So I don't experience this 'hate' that you speak of.
Maybe you should cut down on your intake of them.
#3.1.1.1.1
No, I didn't insult you. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
Maybe it's time for me to move on.
BTW, I don't watch cable news. Ever. I don't even bother with local news.
So I don't experience this 'hate' that you speak of.
Maybe you should cut down on your intake of them.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I couldn't check any of your boxes, so I simply answered your poll with the comment that I have not experienced hate against me, nor have I felt hate here discussing Covid issues. Why did you address my comment in the first place if you didn't want to "dance"?
I couldn't check any of your boxes, so I simply answered your poll with the comment that I have not experienced hate against me, nor have I felt hate here discussing Covid issues. Why did you address my comment in the first place if you didn't want to "dance"?
big, direct, topical stuff. What I really hate is people letting the other side bad guys control the dialogue. Joe Biden is not a "liberal". Nancy Pelosi is not a "progresssive." cancel culture is not "far left." misandry is not "feminism." When we let others get away with misidentifying us we are conceding points that are totaly wrong. When we use their misidentifications we are sabotaging ourselves.
@doh1304@doh1304
be it radio,TV, entertainment, over the fence gossip, or gigabytes that pass in and out of our electronic devices. It can be confusing and frustrating in the extreme. But I can’t think of a single person here, sharing what they enjoy and what they believe they understand, who is in any way intentionally misinforming or deceiving other members of this community. We need to remember this.
It’s inevitable that we will hold a variety of opinions, because we have all grazed on some significant quantity of orchestrated disinformation, intentionally disseminated by our very own government and institutions bent on profit and power. It’s hard to know anything with certainty these days. Each of us is doing the best we can with the poor quality of “facts” we are being fed.
This is no accident. We’re supposed to be confused, conflicted and at each other’s throats…
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, CIA Director (first staff meeting, 1981)
big, direct, topical stuff. What I really hate is people letting the other side bad guys control the dialogue. Joe Biden is not a "liberal". Nancy Pelosi is not a "progresssive." cancel culture is not "far left." misandry is not "feminism." When we let others get away with misidentifying us we are conceding points that are totaly wrong. When we use their misidentifications we are sabotaging ourselves.
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Power Defines Truth and Dissent Is Therefore a Lie
From World War II through the start of the Digital Age early this century, a privileged narrative prevailed as “reported” by the three broadcast networks, a few national magazines like Time and the two nationally distributed newspapers, The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. You could not encounter any advocacy of communism, fascism, atheism, anarchism or any other variety of institutional dissent without the context clearly identifying such ideas as evil, foolish or both. You had to go to a library or a dusty old book store to look for information about disapproved ideas, and it did not even occur to anybody that there was anything odd about this regime. It was Normal.
During those decades, the distinction between “fact” and “opinion” was irrelevant. Communism was the big problem, and our privileged narrative held that its main tool was lying – later rhetorically inflated to “disinformation.” To counter communist lies, we established Radio Free Europe, beaming the Truth to the victims of Soviet aggression. I will never forget a conversation I had with my girlfriend's Army Colonel father in 1969. He said, "What bothers me is these Reds, going around telling people they aren't happy. People are happy."
Those were the days.
The Internet subverted the power of that group of a dozen or so national news organizations to define the truth. Marshall McLuhan foresaw this – he must have been a space alien. Before the internet, it took a major capital investment to communicate with the mass of the population – paper mills, printing presses, delivery trucks, a national network of broadcast antennas, a roster of reporters deployed around the globe. The “entry cost” to communicate with millions of people was always in the millions of dollars – back when a million bucks was a lot of money. Thus the Privileged Narrative was provided by people or organizations with Big Money.
Today, a few hundred dollars will hook you up with several billion people. It takes some pizzazz and a lot of luck for your humble contribution to go viral – but as lots of cat video fans will tell you, it happens. Nobody has control over what goes viral, with both memes and “facts” now spreading instantly around the world, obliterating the once unchallengeable power of the TV networks and the nationally circulated print organs.
Without anyone in power to filter out disapproved information, we are now in a state of Information Anarchy. Exacerbating this chaotic situation is the apparent war of dueling realities between the Democrats and Republicans here in the USA. While having no trouble authorizing money to keep our wars against the whole world going by almost unanimous votes in Congress, they angrily insist that the other party’s leaders belong in jail.
This bizarre stalemate of dueling accusations of fundamental illegitimacy by the highest public officials in the nation has completely obliterated any hope for the quaint notion of “objectivity.” Facts are supposedly stubborn things, so if you want to win your argument, make sure that you never have to face one. Nope, just call it Fake News.
Which brings us to the Life and Death Fake News Battles going on today. I am a newcomer to this board, and the most striking thing I have seen so far is that this crisis of legitimacy and epistemology is playing out here, too. One thread links to an article that condemns “pro-Trump” doctors for lending their medical licenses to the effort to slaughter Americans because Trump’s election somehow depends upon it.
The implication is undeniable. If a doctor is “pro-Trump” he or she is by definition a liar and an accomplice to mass murder. The “truth” is that there is only one correct way to fight the virus, and there can be no disagreement with that. Dissent is by definition a lie.
This is in line with the various internet articles and viral memes that chortle with glee at the imminent deaths of Trump Supporting Lockdown Protesters. It also ignores the “novel” nature of this virus which, by definition, has unknown and unpredictable effects, pre-emptively disqualifying any medical opinion that varies from the conclusions coming from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The virus has become Russiagate Part Trois – a rallying cry for hatred of Trump without any practical point to it other than Trump sucks.
Well, he does suck. And his ridiculous Presidency is a travesty. Nevertheless, just because some medical doctor voted for him, it does not follow that the doctor really wants to kill human beings just to help Donnie Shrimpfingers stay in the White House. Nor does it render the Pro-Trump doc a quack.
Certitude about how The Lockdown Is Good is insane. I am going along with it, and I accept the notion that it is better to be too cautious than not cautious enough. But to condemn anybody who disagrees or even just questions it as indifferent to human death is totalitarianism in action.
And it makes me wonder where that little internet meme came from . . . .
#8#8
be it radio,TV, entertainment, over the fence gossip, or gigabytes that pass in and out of our electronic devices. It can be confusing and frustrating in the extreme. But I can’t think of a single person here, sharing what they enjoy and what they believe they understand, who is in any way intentionally misinforming or deceiving other members of this community. We need to remember this.
It’s inevitable that we will hold a variety of opinions, because we have all grazed on some significant quantity of orchestrated disinformation, intentionally disseminated by our very own government and institutions bent on profit and power. It’s hard to know anything with certainty these days. Each of us is doing the best we can with the poor quality of “facts” we are being fed.
This is no accident. We’re supposed to be confused, conflicted and at each other’s throats…
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, CIA Director (first staff meeting, 1981)
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Uprate this comment...
if you think that the unvaxxed are stupid m'fers who don't deserve to live. That they should be segregated and placed in re-education camps. That they are all wingnuts (except for AAs that make up one of the largest blocks of unvaxxed, oh hell they didn't get jabbed so they qualify as wingnuts as well) that should get off my planet. They are so brain dead that even Darwin doesn't know how to deal with them. They should be held down and vaccinated anyway, maybe add a chokehold and a knee to the neck. They should lose their jobs, hell, they shouldn't even be allowed to buy groceries. They are all animals, I hope they all die. Don't they know that I am the smartest person in the room and they best listen to me.
Uprate this comment...
if you think the vaxxed are stupid m'fers that don't deserve to live. They were too stupid to do the research before they took the jab and now they should be segregated into re-education camps because they are shedding spike proteins and are a hazard to myself and my family. There is a special place in hell for folks that want to jab everyone. Darwin has a plan for these authoritarians, right next to the nazis. I can't wait for this winter when they begin to die off, serves them right to suffer. Don't they know that I am the smartest person in the room and they best listen to me.
If you particiapated in this poll...
then congratulations, you have been propagandized, brain raped, gaslit, and used by those that wish to divide us. Bernays would be amazed. Perhaps you deserve a Darwin Award.
On top of all that, you should be ashamed of yourself for letting hate dictate your life.
Where is this coming from?
This isn't coming from C99P. So what are you watching?
The media...
and right here at c99 where it's just barely held at bay because of our rules. It does occasionally spill over. Don't be coy, you know exactly what I mean.
What are you insinuating asking me what I watch? I take that as an insult. Go ahead, get your hate on. This is the place for it.
Uh, no
I'll pass. I have better things to do.
You didn't take a pass...
at insulting me though, did you.
Wow
No, I didn't insult you. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
Maybe it's time for me to move on.
BTW, I don't watch cable news. Ever. I don't even bother with local news.
So I don't experience this 'hate' that you speak of.
Maybe you should cut down on your intake of them.
I don't watch any tv...
haven't for years.
Are you not aware that this can be construed as an insult also?
Are you that tone deaf? Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it.
Maybe I'm just dense
Sorry to trouble you
I also didn't know...
that you're that thin skinned.
What about the half-vaxxed? Asking for a friend n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Depends on which buttock
Now that's...
a half-assed idea.
Left one is OK, Right is bad, pro-Trumper
Probably an insurrectionist.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Is your friend...
George Hayduke by any chance?
asdf
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
To quote...
a monkey wrencher from another era...
"Hoka Hey"
Damn!
I hate multiple choice questions. No one told me this would be on the test.
Uprate this comment
If you don't hate the vaxxers pro or con.
Live and let live
It's a shame to see so much acrimony.
Thanks for the vent!
question everything
Through all the long and often contentious conversations
I have had with others on this site regarding the Covid issues, I have experienced sometimes high levels of frustration.
But never hatred.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
The point of this essay...
is not so hard to discern if you give it a try.
There is only one point?
Sorry, maybe the altitude out here is fogging my brain.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Are we going to do this again...
you know I don't like to dance.
This essay is titled a c99 "Covid hate poll."
I couldn't check any of your boxes, so I simply answered your poll with the comment that I have not experienced hate against me, nor have I felt hate here discussing Covid issues. Why did you address my comment in the first place if you didn't want to "dance"?
I'm totally confused now.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Remember my poor little pony...
that was bogged down in the mire? Well, look at him now. watch all the way to the end.
The sun is out, the temperature is low 70's..
There's no smoke today in the Helena Valley. Across the valley the hills are holding a walking trail called Trout Creek.
I'm going to take a nice stroll there.
Enjoy your day.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Have a good one...
I was in Colorado a couple of weeks ago, I know what you mean.
"She wore it in the springtime in the merry month of May"
Always loved that marching song.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I feel like I'm coming in late, but I'll let others call out the
big, direct, topical stuff. What I really hate is people letting the
other sidebad guys control the dialogue. Joe Biden is not a "liberal". Nancy Pelosi is not a "progresssive." cancel culture is not "far left." misandry is not "feminism." When we let others get away with misidentifying us we are conceding points that are totaly wrong. When we use their misidentifications we are sabotaging ourselves.On to Biden since 1973
We all graze on dubious information,
be it radio,TV, entertainment, over the fence gossip, or gigabytes that pass in and out of our electronic devices. It can be confusing and frustrating in the extreme. But I can’t think of a single person here, sharing what they enjoy and what they believe they understand, who is in any way intentionally misinforming or deceiving other members of this community. We need to remember this.
It’s inevitable that we will hold a variety of opinions, because we have all grazed on some significant quantity of orchestrated disinformation, intentionally disseminated by our very own government and institutions bent on profit and power. It’s hard to know anything with certainty these days. Each of us is doing the best we can with the poor quality of “facts” we are being fed.
This is no accident. We’re supposed to be confused, conflicted and at each other’s throats…
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Excellent Point
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From C99, May 21, 2020:
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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Can we have a love poll, please? /nt
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Would 5 Minutes for Love do?
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUCYjed-3Jo]
Definitely, shared with my son, thanks /nt
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