It's one of the myths that D-Kos cares about such things.

but at the same time I feel compelled to keep going there to try to refute the most spurious of claims that end up in pro-Sanders diaries purely out of concern that other non-partisans that may be reading it may actually believe it's true if it goes unrefuted.

It's like working at a sewage treatment plant. A smelly, dirty and at times utterly revolting job which often leaves me feeling the need to shower that nevertheless needs to be done.

The anonymous flagging system is being abused more often too. I am seeing flags landing on the most mundane comments based more on who the commenter is than what they are currently saying.

Needless to say I will be grateful when I no longer feel compelled to go there to help fight the good fight, lol!

The Clintons are in sales. Welfare "reform" is a perfect example of how they make their millions, by selling Neoliberal policies to the very people who will be harmed the most by those policies. That's a very valuable talent, if you're lowdown enough to use it.

This is a great interview, by the acclaimed author of "The New Jim Crow" and "Why Hillary Clinton Doesn't Deserve the Black Vote," from yesterday that talks in part about the Clintons' role in welfare reform and mass incarceration and the role of their position in negating any possibility of real reform, "the evisceration, the end of welfare as we know it." I've got it queued up to one of the more relevant portions @ 6:37 in, but the whole thing is very informative.

https://youtu.be/9mgRAAzU794?t=6m37s

The money quote:

"... it's actually one of the reasons why I wrote my book The New Jim Crow in the first place is that many people of color don't know or fully understand how this
system of mass incarceration was constructed, why the devastating
consequences for our communities and the Clintons' important
role. They escalated the drug war, the get-tough movement, far beyond what the
Republicans had done, while at the same time dismantling the federal social
safety net and transferring billions of dollars away from child welfare and
housing into a prison building boom unlike anything the world has ever seen.
And I think it's difficult and painful for many on the left to face that reality. We'd
rather not believe it and we would like to imagine that the
politicians who were willing to sit with them in church and to be our friend
actually might have done vastly more harm than good..."

to quit posting there. When ever any pol starts throwing around the word 'reform' you just know we're in for another heartbreaking screw. Welfare 'reform' is double speak and in order to believe in these upside down reform's you have to think double. If you don't know the language of double speak they can't hear you and assume your a RW troll or a dangerous insurgant far lefty who wants to give the people 'free stuff'.

and will look now. If not, can you post it here?

you mentioned that has always irritated the shit out of me at Dkos - "We already discussed that" as a dismissive response to a diary. So what if it was already discussed sometime in the past? There are new members here now who can benefit from learning about/discussing this particular issue. There are people there that treat you like if you weren't there since the beginning then fuck off with any ideas or diaries you'd like to discuss.

Just so wrapped up in the Dem team that they can't see anything else beyond.

The Party seems to make people very stupid. And I really don't understand why anyone would get so attached to a Party.

Especially if it's not fit for purpose.

has stated he is backing Sanders. Has he changed that position? I did notice before I stopped going there that it seemed his posts had been pushed to later in the day. Man didn't impress me as sellout material, but what do I know?

So, a punch of "statesmen" are on an educational cruise with a bunch of school kids who have been selected to participate due to their extraordinary efforts in political activism.

The ship hits an iceberg and starts to sink. Panic ensues. Jimmy Carter makes his way across the deck, shouting, "Get the children into the lifeboats! Children first!"

Dick Cheney comes wheeling through the throng, Liz rolling his chair over the feet of anyone unfortunate enough to be in his path. "Fuck the children!" he snarls.

Denny Hastert looks around and says, "Do we have time?"

(This joke has never not been current since I first heard it over 30 years ago. Then, it was Nixon who snarled "Fuck the children", and Dan Crane who said, "Do we have time?". The "great" thing about the Republican party is that year after year, decade after decade, they keep rolling out characters who can fill the second and third roles in this joke. Meanwhile, Carter just keeps on keeping on. I don't know with whom I'll replace him when he finally passes on.)