Welcome to Saturday's Potluck

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 4:54am

This is the plan: each week I will provide a main course to get us started and rely on you for the sides, appetizers, deserts and music.

Over the years I have heard various explanations on how the name Oregon originated. This is the newest variation perhaps a Pacific Northwest Indian tribe name for smelt or candle fish.

The name eulachon (occasionally seen as oolichan, oulachon, and uthlecan) is from the Chinookan language and the Chinook Jargon based on that language. One of several theories for the origin of the name of the state of Oregon is that it was a corruption from the term "Oolichan Trail", the native trade route for oolichan oil.

The Cowlitz Indian Tribe concerned about diminishing eulachon smelt runs worked with petitioned the Environmental Protection Agency. Columbia River smelt was listed as a Threatened species in 2010.

Eulachon Smelt by Oregon Field Guide (approx 10 min)

When my Grandmother was a child the smelt would show up in the creek by the house every season. Plenty for fresh eating, canning and fertilizer for the fields. Now harvestable runs are limited to Sandy and Columbia River.

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Russia and Mexico had established trade and communities on the West coast before the Americans and British moved into grab territory. Migration continues as each wave comes bringing their own ideas of utopia. Periodic violence happens, it appears to be part of the cycle.

Russian Igor Moiseyev Ballet performing a Suite of Mexican Dances (7 min)
[video:https://youtu.be/BNCPIubJ_ZU?t=38]

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So is it time for the property destruction and disrupting lives to stop locally? (7.16 min)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5DZlZE4pqQ]

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Odd I cooked most of the day, yet wrote nothing about food. Will need to wait until next week to have the recipes formatted.

Testing the flavor of homemade cheese aging since summer.
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Submitted by QMS on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 5:10am

Eugene and Corvalis

Were two stops when traveling thru Oregon.
Many moons past.
Really enjoyed those towns.
Progressive and friendly people.
Probably wouldn't recognize them now.

Thanks for the OT!

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Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 2:01pm

two of my favorite towns

@QMS Lived 4 years in Corvallis attending Oregon State University (OSU), a land grant university, mocked for its mundane common values in the area of agriculture, forestry, marine sciences, engineering and pharmacy. The other health professionals were trained at University of Oregon (UO) in Eugene, along with business and liberal arts. Oregon's traditional home of counter culture and anarchists. Enjoyed many hours in the used book stores discovering finds which altered my views of life.

It was simpler times and corruption was entrenched in a different manner. Most Oregonians who were rich achieved it the traditional way, by inheritance. Professionals, other than doctors and lawyers, had little political power. Nike originating from UO had just become a public company and had not yet infiltrated all the athletic departments. Only two professors at OSU pharmacy school publicly acknowledged they exclusively did research for big Pharma. Easy to spot they wore the $1,000 suites.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by Lookout on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 8:25am

Good morning...

I always heard Alabama is an indigenous term meaning "Brushy thicket"...which is appropriate but disputed.

Here's what the state archives says:

The popular belief that Alabama signifies "Here We Rest" stems from an etymology given wide currency in the 1850s through the writings of Alexander Beauford Meek. However, the first known use of this derivation appeared earlier in an unsigned article in a July 27, 1842, issue of the Jacksonville Republican. Experts in the Muskogee dialect have been unable to find any word or phrase similar to Alabama with the meaning "Here We Rest."

According to some investigations, the tribal name Alabama must be sought in the Choctaw tongue, as it is not uncommon for tribes to accept a name given them by a neighboring tribe. Inquiry among the early Indians themselves appears to have yielded no information about the meaning of the word. The Rev. Allen Wright, a Choctaw scholar, translated the name as thicket clearers, compounded of Alba meaning "a thick or mass vegetation," and amo meaning "to clear, to collect, to gather up."

I sure spend time cleaning up brush and limbs. Speaking of which, we've got a bizarre power line cleaner in the neighborhood...a helicopter with a dangling chain of rotary saws.
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There will be plenty of 5,6 ppick up sticks after it finshes up. Don't know if a ground crew follows to grind them. They have not been here yet.

Well thanks for the OT. Give us a farm and livestock update one Sat....been wondering how things did this year in your world. All the best!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by eyo on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 12:02pm

Heli-Saw was here last December

@Lookout good morning, hope your jabbed arm feels better and you be playing soon after the next dose. Thanks for going first, thanks a lot.

PG&E helicopter trims trees along power lines in rural Sonoma County forest

“We can do in one day what would take a crew of climbers three to four weeks,” said Brian Mulhollen, division manager/safety officer with Heli-Dunn, the Medford, Oregon-based company that works for PG&E throughout its 70,000-square-mile territory.

Me Luddite, I'd rather have the line workers back full time year round, those were good paying jobs. With bennies. There's an embedded video clip of insanity at the link, but also read the pilot describing how it feels when the blades hit a tough limb and the whole shebang shudders in the air. Whee!

The Heli-Saw works in gaps of at least 15 feet between the power lines and the trees, and Mulhollen said in a decade of operation the company hasn’t once hit a line. Most of the time, the lines are shut off during tree-trimming operations, as they were Tuesday.

"Most of the time" ?! LOL omg that is so PG&E.

Glen Campbell - Wichita Lineman
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU width:420]
Good grief. There is no such thing.

Peace and Love

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 3:17pm

Clearing brush is a continual task

@Lookout I am pretty lucky, if I want to slow the growth simply stop irrigation. Natural rainfall is 10 inches and primarily comes in the winter and spring.

Heli-Saw is interesting. Many of our power lines run parallel to roads. Would be a ittle surprising to drive by one in action. You will leave a major limb pile to clean without a ground crew doing follow-up.

Today actually became very busy day. The powder type snow dropped yesterday and all my paths were filled with snow by winds overnight. More winds projected for tonight, so re-dig tomorrow. Still have one 100 ft path to finish before 3 pm. Fortunately powder is light and comes off the shovel easily.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
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Submitted by phillybluesfan on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 9:04am

Standing In Line Is Good For You

Relaxing this wintry Saturday morning. Listening to the quiet sounds of Sleepy Hollow on WXPN. Browsing the latest Sojourners. Inspired to add this to my hardly ever used Twitter account. Thought you might like it. Be warm. Be well.

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Few are guilty, but all are responsible.”
― Abraham Joshua Heschel, The Prophets

Submitted by eyo on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 10:37am

I need a password phillybluesfan ;-)

@phillybluesfan lol sorry, all I get is a login page prompting me for a password when I click that broken photo link (I click every thing posted here, apparently). Maybe someone else can see and tell what you're in line for, is it a jab? An autograph? Is there a playoff game somewhere? curious thanks

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 3:20pm

Good background music for the day.

@phillybluesfan thanks. Just bookmarked.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 9:36am

Good morning SOE, welcome to Saturday, so to speak.

Mexico and Russia traded with the indigenous people, though Mexico also enslaved them and stole from them. The Russians, being primarily trappers, moe or less had to do some trading tof sustenance. As for trade between them, I can't say. Russia got as far south as the Russian River and Mexico thought that was far enough, so Fort Ross was answered with a detachment from the San Francisco Presidio under Lt. Vallejo that was housed in a newly built barracks in Sonoma next to the mission there. There may have been some trade after that stalemate was achieved.

Maher is funny here and there, but also misguided here and there too. You have to make Democrats do good too. His long litany of stuff Waxman largely did or promoted makes it clear that nobody else was on our side throughout that whole period. Concresds won't move to help that lady with her toxic waste, and niether will the EPA until they've been sued about 35 or 40 times by Earthjustice and the Center for Biological Diversity and an endless protest and picket prevents them from swapping the land for something else in order to allow some real estate developer to build a resort on it. Hillary? She never worked for anybody's benefit, ever. Obamacare, a ffew crumbs for the people in exchange for guaranteeing that sickness treatment will be ruled by insurance companies and that pharma will continue to have unrestricted gouging power, so it isn't all roses, or else there would be some beyond the few that Lady Bird planted along highways.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 3:57pm

Waxman first elected prior to Corporate Democrates

@enhydra lutris solidifying their power. Someone of his caliber to focus to achieve real results for the 99% would be challenged in a primary. Maher effective at using humor to sheepdog groups. Protesters halt your activities people might notice there are still problems after removing Trump. Waxman did great work for the public, therefore all these Democrats should receive your adulation and support. Look at the pictures and imprint them in your memory with warm feelings. Maher forgot to include our President and Vice-President in picture grouping of policy "wonks who never satisfy the radicals"

Gale Ontko Author of Thunder of the Ochocos series postulated the Shoshone tribe stopped the Spanish mission system from moving farther north.

Thanks for stopping by.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 10:54am

"This is where the avalanche failed"

This is still so incredibly sad. This could have been my friends and I when we used to go cross country skiing in the back country and we didn't have the equipment that is available know.

She shows how the previous storms helped set up the conditions for that tragic day. One guy was dug out and then he helped dig out another person. I can imagine the guilt and the sorrow for one friend out of the group of 4 that died who sat that run out cuz he was tired. Then he watched his friends get caught up in it and died.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC__IscLiio]

Story on the 3 groups were caught.

Final report on fatal Millcreek Canyon avalanche documents 'heroic effort'

While skiers from both groups told officials they were aware of avalanche danger, it's worth pointing out that the crown of the avalanche was measured at 31 degrees. That's only one degree above the Utah Avalanche Center's safety recommendation for avalanches.

A few photos here that show the heavy blocks of snow that would be near impossible to dig through if not properly equipped.

Just heartbreaking. But wow, did they have fun on their way out and that is what counts for them. Y'all were 20 once. How invisible were you? ME? I found out the hard way that I wasn't. But I still took chances afterwards. Thinking back at the memories....most of the men in our group worked at Thiokal and yes they actually were rocket scientists. They would talk and talk forever it discussing safety no matter what we did. They worked on the Shuttle booster rockets and were the happiest guys in the world with time and money to do almost anything. Until that fateful day that the booster rocket O ring failed and their world blew up. Shells they were for awhile. My BF was put in charge of the redesign of the booster rockets till the stress got too much for him. One by one the group moved on or away. But BOY did WE have FUN while it lasted. 3 day trip to Jackson Hole, Yellowstone and Idaho over Pres' Day one year. Everything was frozen but we had a blast and the canoes enjoyed he ride.

Trip down memory lane those decades past. It was an absolute blast.

ETA: Just a few more inches and Sam will be able to drink out of the porcelain throne. Puppy's 3rd milestone.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 10:59am

Heh...

@snoopydawg

I found out the hard way that I wasn't. But I still took chances afterwards

Yeah talk about dumb. I wreck'd on my motorcycle, but survived. Then I bought another one and a few times would ride it home after a lot of beers after a ball game. Yeah really, really dumb. I was 22.

This is still so incredibly sad. This could have been my friends and I when we used to go cross country skiing in the back country and we didn't have the equipment that is available know. She shows how the previous storms helped set up the conditions for that tragic day. One guy was dug out and then he helped dig out another person. I can imagine the guilt and the sorrow for one friend out of the group of 4 that died who sat that run out cuz he was tired. Then he watched his friends get caught up in it and died. [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC__IscLiio] Story on the 3 groups were caught. Final report on fatal Millcreek Canyon avalanche documents 'heroic effort' While skiers from both groups told officials they were aware of avalanche danger, it's worth pointing out that the crown of the avalanche was measured at 31 degrees. That's only one degree above the Utah Avalanche Center's safety recommendation for avalanches. A few photos here that show the heavy blocks of snow that would be near impossible to dig through if not properly equipped. Just heartbreaking. But wow, did they have fun on their way out and that is what counts for them. Y'all were 20 once. How invisible were you? ME? I found out the hard way that I wasn't. But I still took chances afterwards. Thinking back at the memories....most of the men in our group worked at Thiokal and yes they actually were rocket scientists. They would talk and talk forever it discussing safety no matter what we did. They worked on the Shuttle booster rockets and were the happiest guys in the world with time and money to do almost anything. Until that fateful day that the booster rocket O ring failed and their world blew up. Shells they were for awhile. My BF was put in charge of the redesign of the booster rockets till the stress got too much for him. One by one the group moved on or away. But BOY did WE have FUN while it lasted. 3 day trip to Jackson Hole, Yellowstone and Idaho over Pres' Day one year. Everything was frozen but we had a blast and the canoes enjoyed he ride. Trip down memory lane those decades past. It was an absolute blast. ETA: Just a few more inches and Sam will be able to drink out of the porcelain throne. Puppy's 3rd milestone.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 4:43pm

Sums up American Culture

@snoopydawg

But wow, did they have fun on their way out and that is what counts for them.

I always have mixed feelings about these types of events. I was a preteen when began participating on the clean-up crew for for tragedies experienced by extended family members and local community. Then became part of the medical team treating the physical and emotional damage. In addition to the consequences for the participants the cost to the rescue personnel, communities and families is high.

I hope none of them had young children or were the sole provider for a pet.

This is still so incredibly sad. This could have been my friends and I when we used to go cross country skiing in the back country and we didn't have the equipment that is available know. She shows how the previous storms helped set up the conditions for that tragic day. One guy was dug out and then he helped dig out another person. I can imagine the guilt and the sorrow for one friend out of the group of 4 that died who sat that run out cuz he was tired. Then he watched his friends get caught up in it and died. [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC__IscLiio] Story on the 3 groups were caught. Final report on fatal Millcreek Canyon avalanche documents 'heroic effort' While skiers from both groups told officials they were aware of avalanche danger, it's worth pointing out that the crown of the avalanche was measured at 31 degrees. That's only one degree above the Utah Avalanche Center's safety recommendation for avalanches. A few photos here that show the heavy blocks of snow that would be near impossible to dig through if not properly equipped. Just heartbreaking. But wow, did they have fun on their way out and that is what counts for them. Y'all were 20 once. How invisible were you? ME? I found out the hard way that I wasn't. But I still took chances afterwards. Thinking back at the memories....most of the men in our group worked at Thiokal and yes they actually were rocket scientists. They would talk and talk forever it discussing safety no matter what we did. They worked on the Shuttle booster rockets and were the happiest guys in the world with time and money to do almost anything. Until that fateful day that the booster rocket O ring failed and their world blew up. Shells they were for awhile. My BF was put in charge of the redesign of the booster rockets till the stress got too much for him. One by one the group moved on or away. But BOY did WE have FUN while it lasted. 3 day trip to Jackson Hole, Yellowstone and Idaho over Pres' Day one year. Everything was frozen but we had a blast and the canoes enjoyed he ride. Trip down memory lane those decades past. It was an absolute blast. ETA: Just a few more inches and Sam will be able to drink out of the porcelain throne. Puppy's 3rd milestone.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 11:09pm

Isn’t that blaming them for their deaths

@studentofearth

because if there are consequences as you say then maybe they shouldn’t have taken those risks? We don’t blame victims of car accidents for leaving their pets. Did you read how risky the slope was? Where should they have drawn the line.

I too saw the families after their loved ones died or were hurt and actually witnessed mine going through in real time after I crashed my bike and saw the anguish so I understand what you’re saying. My parents waited days for me to wake up from surgery to see if I was okay physically, but more importantly mentally. Trauma leaves a mark on many. And after awhile you start getting numb to it. Horrible stories of when that went wrong.

My bad if I misread your comment.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by eyo on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 5:56am

"Where should they have drawn the line."

@snoopydawg hi, here's my answer: "Always err on the side of caution."

I'm too lazy to look up who said it, but that was stuffed in my lint trap since I can remember. In California an 18 year old teenager is legally an adult, no matter what their hormones are up to. Same thing with women in menopause, raging hormone imbalances make people do stupid things with no plan all the time. So does booze, and plenty of other mind altering substances in use everywhere. If every person were so reckless, expecting to get rescued no matter what, there would be no youth they'd all be dead. Why isn't everyone dead? Common sense still exists, in pockets. Outlook not so good.

I don't watch tragic videos, or read a lot of tragic text, I avoid them as much as possible. If I fill my head with tragedy all day then the world is just tragic. Dopamine headlines are damage to be avoided for me. Unless I am boots-on-the-ground helping solve issues, there is no point in elevating stress about how others make decisions inside their own fine head. I hope they help you heal, no harms done.

I think social media (facebook reddit twitter at least) should be banned from earth completely for the sadness they generate, and all their users forced to learn how to operate Free Software systems, or stay the fuck away. LOL yeah, one persons utopia is another ones hell. I'm glad we are all different. There will always be reckless ninnies, and there will always be cautious planners, no matter the age. C'est la vie.

Peace and Love

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 9:58am

Here is the line

@eyo

While skiers from both groups told officials they were aware of avalanche danger, it's worth pointing out that the crown of the avalanche was measured at 31 degrees. That's only one degree above the Utah Avalanche Center's safety recommendation for avalanches.

So I am not seeing that these young folks were really to blame. They had already finished many runs down the hill before the avalanche happened. Seems to me most of the day they thought they had chosen wisely.

It is the tone of the comment that I was hoping for clarity on. I certainly was too blame for my accident, however my parents never said that to my face. In fact my mom said nothing for hours during the ride out of the mountains and then once we got to hospital where we all worked and yet no one recognized me. Yeah I was that bad off. Young, dumb, invincible with a powerful machine that I did not respect. Afterwards the whole family continued riding bikes with helmets mandatory and we rode for years until another risky adventure by yours truly almost went through the same thing again and my parents locked my bike away and sold theirs. Life itself is risky.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 10:15am

not blaming, not justifying, not glorifying

@snoopydawg In a private conversation with family and friends as a comfort I would remind them each person who lost their life was doing an activity they loved.

Public comments are different. The same words can be used to inspire similar or greater risk taking behavior. The tolerance for risk varies with each person and at different stages in their life. The simplest example is Key Man Insurance used by businesses. They come with a long list of activities one can no longer participate to stay within bounds of the Policy.

My thoughts were not limited to the Avalanche and the desire to ski in extreme conditions, but also daily choices. Justifying one's choices because it's fun or convenient in the moment is also used for coal belching trucks.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF4XoConrbA]

Or using Keurig coffee cups

John Sylvan came up with the Keurig machine in the early 1990s and sold his share of the company in 1997. He told the Atlantic he doesn’t even own a machine today.

“I don’t have one. They’re kind of expensive to use ... it’s not like drip coffee is tough to make,” he told The Atlantic, adding, “I feel bad sometimes that I ever did it.”

It’s no secret that these little plastic pods aren’t exactly environmentally friendly. Although some are technically recyclable, they need to be disassembled into paper, plastic and metal components, which obviously takes more effort than most people are willing to exert, the Atlantic notes. There were enough K-Cups sold in 2014 to circle the Earth more than 12 times. (That’s up from a 2013 estimate by Mother Jones, which had the K-Cups circling the Earth 10.5 times.)

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 10:26am

Not even in the same food group

@studentofearth

Justifying one's choices because it's fun or convenient in the moment is also used for coal belching trucks.

Come on man you aren't trying. That isn't a risk. Its a horrible choice he made that affects all of us. I certainly DID not glorify their deaths. Maybe read it again and see how it hit home for me. I used to do that too. We ARE not smart when we are younger. We can't be cuz we are not old enough to evaluate every risk.

But speaking of minimizing risks I think that this plan might have been sorta risky, but then I enjoy going out to the island with my dawgs and I never tell anyone where I am going. I go weeks without talking to anyone so they won't know I am dead till they are notified.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50107212/womans-body-found-on-antelope-islan...

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 1:39pm

Evaluating risk is a skill younger children can learn.

@snoopydawg It starts with simple situations and explanations, becoming more complex over time with age and experience. Risk evaluation can include simply self or extend out to others and environments potentially impacted by a choice.

Not sure how extensive the risk of not returning from Antelope Island is for you, not for me to judge. Not being able to arrive home at an expected time is currently in the high risk category for me. I have animals in outside pens and inside house. There is a simple back-up plan in place so no one dies of thirst or hunger if I don't return.

The realization "That could of been me" is not comfortable. Hope the experience becomes a beneficial part of life.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 5:34pm

More lecturing

@studentofearth

And still blaming.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 8:54pm

Not my intent

@snoopydawg Sometimes the writing style can be a bit abrupt. Too many years as a consultant telling people and organizations what they should do to improve a situation. It takes time and several rewrites to soften the tone.

Hope tomorrow goes better for you. Cheers.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by eyo on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 11:40am

Russian River (Ashokawna or Bidapte)

Here's what I'm bringing. Slavianka River, Rio San Ygnacio, Rio San Ignacio[1] is where I live, it is right down the street.

Russian River

The Russian River springs from the Laughlin Range about 5 mi (8 km) east of Willits in Mendocino County. It flows generally southward to Redwood Valley, then past Calpella, where it is bordered by U.S. Route 101, to join the East Fork Russian River just below Lake Mendocino.

From there the Russian River flows south, past Ukiah and Hopland, and crosses into Sonoma County just north of Cloverdale. Closely paralleled by U.S. Route 101, it descends into the Alexander Valley, where it is joined by Big Sulphur Creek. It flows south past Cloverdale, Asti, and Geyserville.

I think this video is how riverlover and I first crossed paths over at dkos one morning, so it took me a while to compose myself to compose this comment. My heart misses Claudia.

The Russian River: All Rivers
Edit: could not get embed to work so here is a link to the page.
http://www.russianriverallrivers.com/

I never saw the whole documentary, never coughed up the cash. Harumph. I could go on and on with stories about growing up on the Russian River, in fact I am right now inside my head. Thank you.

Peace and Love

[1]California Place Names: The Origin and Etymology of Current Geographical Name
Oh boy is that book going to need an update soon or what? I mean a lot of the old history is being wiped from the memory books. My siblings all went to ~~Drake~~ 1327 High, and they are going to name the whole damn boulevard something else too. Not Sir Francis Drake. There was an exorcism (or two?) in the only Catholic church I ever got tricked in to attending mass inside (was most naive maid of honor), I didn't even get a chance to write HELP ME on the bottom of my high heeled shoes. LOL oh well

St. Raphael's courtyard, 1980

I guess San Rafael is going to remain the same, but why? I don't know. What's in a name? A lot, apparently they are all loaded with some heavy baggage. Oh wait, that's just me with the baggage. Carry on.

SMILE
Good Luck

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 9:07pm

Traveled Highway 101 from Fort Bragg to Napa

@eyo regularly as a child and every few years as an adult. Relatives to visit in both towns. Our areas have changed so much, the population growth keeps being encouraged with development. My river is the Deschutes.

Upper Deschutes was a few minutes away to hike, bank fish or drop in a boat to float between sections of rapids for fly or lure fishing.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1B5YiY9M4o]

Now live a few miles farther North. The dam a few miles down river is creating new problems for the last 100 mile until it empties into the Columbia River. Rafting is now so popular a permit system has been implemented.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG9wj5rX2T0]

I am going to watch this youtube video this evening, it may be one you have seen on the Russian River.

Thought of riverlover this morning while feeding wood into the fireplace. When I started writing Open Thread diaries about the farm site she introduced me to coppicing as a tree management system. Changed how the trees are managed and am now harvesting my own firewood. She definitely impacted lives.

Here's what I'm bringing. Slavianka River, Rio San Ygnacio, Rio San Ignacio[1] is where I live, it is right down the street. Russian River The Russian River springs from the Laughlin Range about 5 mi (8 km) east of Willits in Mendocino County. It flows generally southward to Redwood Valley, then past Calpella, where it is bordered by U.S. Route 101, to join the East Fork Russian River just below Lake Mendocino. From there the Russian River flows south, past Ukiah and Hopland, and crosses into Sonoma County just north of Cloverdale. Closely paralleled by U.S. Route 101, it descends into the Alexander Valley, where it is joined by Big Sulphur Creek. It flows south past Cloverdale, Asti, and Geyserville. I think this video is how riverlover and I first crossed paths over at dkos one morning, so it took me a while to compose myself to compose this comment. My heart misses Claudia. The Russian River: All Rivers Edit: could not get embed to work so here is a link to the page. http://www.russianriverallrivers.com/ I never saw the whole documentary, never coughed up the cash. Harumph. I could go on and on with stories about growing up on the Russian River, in fact I am right now inside my head. Thank you. Peace and Love [1]California Place Names: The Origin and Etymology of Current Geographical Name Oh boy is that book going to need an update soon or what? I mean a lot of the old history is being wiped from the memory books. My siblings all went to ~~Drake~~ 1327 High, and they are going to name the whole damn boulevard something else too. Not Sir Francis Drake. There was an exorcism (or two?) in the only Catholic church I ever got tricked in to attending mass inside (was most naive maid of honor), I didn't even get a chance to write HELP ME on the bottom of my high heeled shoes. LOL oh well St. Raphael's courtyard, 1980 I guess San Rafael is going to remain the same, but why? I don't know. What's in a name? A lot, apparently they are all loaded with some heavy baggage. Oh wait, that's just me with the baggage. Carry on. SMILE Good Luck

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by eyo on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 8:37am

Klamath Dam removal

@studentofearth thanks, you inspired me to post the latest on the health of our shared (Southern OR, Northern CA) watershed, it is good news I think. Can't believe I might be alive to see it happen.

THE ECONEWS REPORT: Busting Myths about the Klamath Dam Removal

To wit:

1. No, it won’t increase in-stream water temperature (dams do that);

2. No, it won’t result in severe flooding (these are hydroelectric dams, not flood control dams, and don’t operate to control flooding);

3. Yes, while there is a loss of power generation, that power generation is not very large (~170MW at full capacity, which hardly ever happens) and the power is not particularly low-carbon when you consider the methane produced by the reservoir behind the dams.

AUDIO:“The EcoNews Report,” Feb. 12, 2021.

Here's a short film about the people and the fish:

In this film by American Rivers and Swiftwater Films, Indigenous leaders share why removing four dams to restore a healthy Klamath River is critical for clean water, food sovereignty and justice.

Guardians of the River
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5lcP_9ateE width:500]

Peace and Love

Submitted by studentofearth on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 10:17am

great video - thanks n/t

@eyo

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 10:58am

Here is the video you both loved

@eyo

Beautiful video.

[video:https://vimeo.com/101429442]

I have been to Gurney-Ville a s few times as my mom called it and remember it fondly. Ah the invisible Mecca that Russian River called to many of us who heeded the call. I was back in the neighborhood often with my dawgs and lil trailer that I hauled all over Northern Cali. Get lost? So what it is so small I can do U-ises in the middle of the intersection and get right on the right course.

(You copy and paste the link just like a YouTube video if that helps.)

Here's what I'm bringing. Slavianka River, Rio San Ygnacio, Rio San Ignacio[1] is where I live, it is right down the street. Russian River The Russian River springs from the Laughlin Range about 5 mi (8 km) east of Willits in Mendocino County. It flows generally southward to Redwood Valley, then past Calpella, where it is bordered by U.S. Route 101, to join the East Fork Russian River just below Lake Mendocino. From there the Russian River flows south, past Ukiah and Hopland, and crosses into Sonoma County just north of Cloverdale. Closely paralleled by U.S. Route 101, it descends into the Alexander Valley, where it is joined by Big Sulphur Creek. It flows south past Cloverdale, Asti, and Geyserville. I think this video is how riverlover and I first crossed paths over at dkos one morning, so it took me a while to compose myself to compose this comment. My heart misses Claudia. The Russian River: All Rivers Edit: could not get embed to work so here is a link to the page. http://www.russianriverallrivers.com/ I never saw the whole documentary, never coughed up the cash. Harumph. I could go on and on with stories about growing up on the Russian River, in fact I am right now inside my head. Thank you. Peace and Love [1]California Place Names: The Origin and Etymology of Current Geographical Name Oh boy is that book going to need an update soon or what? I mean a lot of the old history is being wiped from the memory books. My siblings all went to ~~Drake~~ 1327 High, and they are going to name the whole damn boulevard something else too. Not Sir Francis Drake. There was an exorcism (or two?) in the only Catholic church I ever got tricked in to attending mass inside (was most naive maid of honor), I didn't even get a chance to write HELP ME on the bottom of my high heeled shoes. LOL oh well St. Raphael's courtyard, 1980 I guess San Rafael is going to remain the same, but why? I don't know. What's in a name? A lot, apparently they are all loaded with some heavy baggage. Oh wait, that's just me with the baggage. Carry on. SMILE Good Luck

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Submitted by lotlizard on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 1:00pm

Dems win vote on calling witnesses—then decide not to call any!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/feb/13/donald-trump-impeac...

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 9:30pm

Wonder what made them to nervous to proceed?

@lotlizard This story is moving so fast the info referenced was already on page 5 of 8.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 1:33pm

The weather is not cooperating.

I am cutting my glamping trip by a day. It is expected to snow, and there will be icy road conditions for at least 2 days. The courthouse is going to be closed Tuesday, as are the schools. There are 2 bridges between this lake cabin and my home. One of those is long and already looks very old and in need of reconstruction. One slip and I would be in a lake.
Better to be stranded at home than this cabin.
Hope others are enduring the storm without problems.

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Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 9:50pm

Fortunately normal winter weather

@on the cusp Only inconvenience is a central heating system fan acting up a little. Back up plan should keep working until the repairman arrives.

Fortunately do not have Portland General Electric or Pacific Power as a provider. Some of our other members may be effected.

Hundreds of thousands of people are without power in northwest Oregon early Saturday amid a winter storm.

Portland General Electric says roughly 240,000 of its customers have no power as of 10 a.m. Pacific Power reports over 36,000 of its northwest Oregon customers have also lost power.

Hoping you area home and safe by now.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 2:39pm

Update on the capital police officer who was said to have been

murdered by Trump supporters.

MSM's narrative about the murderous Capitol mob has collapsed, but don't let that get in the way of a good political lynching

Also obscured is the wrinkle that Sicknick communicated with his family after the riot. Ken Sicknick reportedly said his brother sent him a text hours after the riot, saying, "I got pepper-sprayed twice," and that he was in good shape. The next day, the family was informed that Sicknick was in critical condition, on a ventilator.
Read more

Without issuing a correction on any of its false stories with the fire-extinguisher tale, CNN reported the fact that Sicknick died of something other than blunt force trauma. In its first article acknowledging that reality, the network immediately transitioned from the Sicknick investigation to background about other officers being injured by rioters. It was like saying, "our central claim wasn't true, but that doesn't change the fact that the Trump mob was vicious."

I wonder what Trump supporters think of the dems caving? Anyone that can ask a few?

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 5:06pm

Most of the Trump supportors I know keep politics to themselves

@snoopydawg If I want to get a feel for anti-Democratic sentiment will peruse zerohedge.com and rense.com. Going to Rense is jumping down the rabbit hole, clicking a link off the site may forward to a landing place with major tracking cookies. Should have robust security procedures.

To monitor the effect on other countries opinions look at Russia Times and The Guardian, over the next week will check AsiaTimes, The Saker and Moon of Alabama. Would be interested where others look to judge the temperature.

Plus watch C99 for posting from our political observers.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 11:26am

I meant Trump voters

@studentofearth

I wonder if any of you are friends with them and they have offered their opinion about the impeachment farce and ow the dems caved

Plus watch C99 for posting from our political observers.

Umm... I am one of those posters here and use all those sites already. You may have missed my many essays.

OTs seem like the game of telephone too. This one does. Guess I'll go back to just reading in the am's.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 12:56pm

Continuing an instant feedback thread is impossible at

@snoopydawg times. When I step outside not always assured I can return quickly. A good morning everyone is fed and watered in 15 minutes. Not going to get above freezing today had to break ice or carry out hot water for all pens. Check out the ewe who was limping last evening, Cleared a couple of paths that had drifted shut. Check on the house next door the heat fan quit Friday evening. I have their older dog at my house so it will not get too cold. And the day has just got started.

Regularly read and enjoy your essays. At the moment any friends who support Trump are more concerned with the current weather event than DC political posturing.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by studentofearth on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 5:09pm

Need to step away from the computer for awhile

Have to finish opening the paths between buildings before evening feeding time.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 02/13/2021 - 10:51pm

Hiya, soe

I will start home around noon tomorrow. The drive is just over 2 hours, but there are lots of curves, hills, and three bridges. We just do not have an infrastructure for ice and snow, as it is so rare. What will shut us down completely in Texas would be just another winter day in Chicago or New York City. We do not have road crews and equipment for it.
The electricity will go off, no doubt, and I can manage that at home. I can't at this cabin.
Hope everyone here, or anywhere, hit by this winter storm is prepared and safe.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 8:08pm

Soe,

I enjoyed the OT, the rambling coffee klache feel to it, (as per faq), so I will add to the chat.
I am home from the truncated glamping trip, and the rain outside is frozen, it is slightly below freezing, not so unusual, except it will go on for 2 to possibly 4 days, a VERY unusual occurrence. I stocked up on groceries in the event I can't get to a store, have water in Britta pitchers, and in buckets for that commode flush or hand wash. I absolutely expect the lights will go out. And I am taking proper precautions to avoid frozen water pipes.
Meanwhile, I am listening to a John Hyatt album, and my Dear One is making us a pizza, and I intend to plan on a small garden in the next couple of weeks.
The gardening practices that work for this area either do not work, or are unnecessary for another area.
When I get the garden going, I will discuss it as I go.
And politics is important, and politicians are uniformly pieces of shit.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by studentofearth on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 9:09pm

Thanks for letting us know you have arrived.

Freezing rain is the worst of the driving conditions. Looking forward to the gardening adventure. The nuances of planting in different climatic areas is fascinating. The changes in seasons and temperature fluctuation create more gardening challenges, learning from everyone here is faster than simply by my mistakes.

We need to share pizza recipes. Probably my favorite food.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Submitted by on the cusp on Sun, 02/14/2021 - 10:58pm

Pizza is in our "rotation" about every 7 to 10 days.

@studentofearth @studentofearth I can make a from scratch crust. I can make a from scratch sauce. But why, when I can by imported Italian sauce, and get wonderful, thin crusts from NJ? (Every Italian I have ever known was from NJ!)
Mamma Marie is the NJ crust company's product.
(In Italy, you only get served crusts with basil, other spices, upon request. Order it there, it is thin, and is very plain.)
Now, sauce. Spend all day, or 30 minutes making your own. Or try Rao brand, imported from Italy, using Italian grown tomatoes. Unless you can get tomatoes from Italy, process them, make your sauce recipe, you can't compete on even terms with this sauce.
They make a general pizza sauce, and a Margherita sauce. I prefer the Margherita, although the pizza sauce is good.
Now, fix it up with whatever you like, and bake it on a Presto Pizzazz.
Guess where I found this stuff? The sauce, the crust, and the Pizazz?
Walmart. Yep.
This is the closest I can come to what I enjoyed in Italy, Croatia, or anywhere in the world.
I take credit for the accidental find of the crust and sauce. I give my fiance full credit for the Pizazz.
The last thing I can say about pizzas is that they are served everywhere. Africa, Central and S. America, Asia, Europe. Nothing says goofy American Tourist like ordering a pizza for lunch. It a dinner meal, meant to strike up conversations, and be a time when the food preparer doesn't have to go back and forth from the kitchen for more of this or that.
Everyone I have suggested the Rao to has become addicted.
There ya go!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981