02/11 OT: Why we even have Open Threads

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Bulletin board at UC Berkeley

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Ever heard of "Threadjacking"? It's a thing. Somebody writes a post about North Carolina High School Basketball and, should a commenter waver off topic, be it a minor digression or a full blown mini-essay about something other than North Carolina High School Basketball and they can be denounced, decried and taken to task for trying to "hijack" the thread, aka threadjacking.

On the other hand, if I were to pen an essay comparing 21st century tats to 14th century tatting, and label it an open thread, then anything goes, including detailed expositions on the ins and outs of home brewing or go cart racing.

So, short form: We have officially designated OTs so folks can have a public forum to post as much or as little as they see fit on anything and everything they desire without the risk of being "off topic" or the need to actually post an essay of their own. Its that simple.

A lot of people often have stuff they wish to say or communicate, but don't really feel like posting an essay. Often they feel that they really don't have enough to say to merit a full essay, of maybe just want to say it's a nice day where they are and that they are glad that it is.

So, an open thread is like a giant chalkboard upon which anybody and everybody can write anything and everything that they feel like, or an endless all-purpose bulletin board

Here, various persons often write some sort of content as an OT, not to create a topical thread, but to convey some information or ideas that they feel like conveying and or to get the ball rolling, and that material can, of course become thematic as to some comments or comment threads, but it needn't. At some point the author shuts up and then it is really "what's on radar" reader? We don't and probably can't have a real participatory democracy in this country, but in this little piece of the Universe, it is the intent of Open Threads to foster participatory discussions, promotions, expositions, and, thank Ishtar, rants.

Got that? This is a public forum, your forum, so, what's on your radar?

BTW, I won't be here when this posts, so play nice.

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QMS's picture

Magi's Hot Air will be missed.
The opportunity to openly share is good.

Thanks for keeping it alive.

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question everything

enhydra lutris's picture

@QMS

a cache of links and pages that I haven't visited in some time now, all the eco-news, green news, etc. I let myself get completely lazy and just rely upon magi (mostly) for my info and updates on such matters, now I've got to start checking them out again, damnit

be well and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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for the next several days. Looks like TN is going to get creamed. Everything is tracking just North of AL. I hate ice storms. It starts sounding like a gunshots as trees and limb break with loud snaps. I cringe for the trees and typically the loss of power as those trees fall across power lines. Wishing all the linemen and women the best in this up coming week of ice.

Snow is a different story, but the snow will be much further north.

We're getting our first round of vaccine today. I hope this is the beginning of the end of COVID isolation for us. We still plan to wait till mid-April to start gathering (it will be next month before the second shot and then 4 more weeks to be safe).

My trees arrived yesterday and I quickly got them in as dusk fell. Rain today so they should adapt well...hope so anyway.

So thanks for the OT, el. Hope someone steps up to regularly host the Thursday slot. Y'all have a great day!

Openness...in NZ?
New Zealand – Open Spaces, Open Hearts & Open Minds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA7MYbRuXwA (3.7 min)

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout
Never saw trees or even large shrubs near power lines in Illinois. here we worry about the weight of ice and sometimes winds approaching hurricane speed. Lines always break somewhere in extreme temps but I think it's actually thermal contraction causing the stress. A few years ago when we had -20F which tied a record, lines went down in Aurora and in one of the Northern lakeshore suburbs. Techs didn't actual go out at -20, but when temperature rose to negative digits they did. Those linemen are jewels. They deserve a huge bonus more than fatcat CEO's.

Just got this link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/tech/robert-kennedy-jr-instagram-ban/inde...

In a contest between RFK Jr. and Bill gates, who do think is going to lose?

Hang on to your hats! The corporate stooge is in the Whitehouse now!

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

This article in Science is a good summary about how viruses mutate, evolve, and generate variants or (variations on a theme). https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/02/210203144533.htm
It is a problem because we don't know how long our vaccines will be effective.

"Going after the virus in multiple different ways is how we beat the shapeshifter," Duprex said. "Combinations of different antibodies, combinations of nanobodies with antibodies, different types of vaccines. If there's a crisis, we'll want to have those backups."

Although this paper shows how SARS-CoV-2 is likely to escape the existing vaccines and therapeutics, it's impossible to know at this point exactly when that might happen. Will the COVID-19 vaccines on the market today continue to offer a high level of protection for another six months? A year? Five years?

Will miss magi's Thursday OT but know she has new projects and work underway.

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Happy New Moon day! It will occur in Aquarius at 2:05 PM Eastern/11:05 Pacific time.

...new moons mark the start of a new lunar cycle, you can also think of this as the first chapter of a short, six-month narrative in your life. Pro-tip: Record the intention you set around the new moon, and then check back in six months down the road when the corresponding full moon is occurring. You'll likely be able to take stock of how far you've come and notice a culmination point. FYI, this February 11 new moon is linked to the July 23 full moon — both in Aquarius. (You can also do this retroactively: Think about how 2020's moons in June and December on the Gemini-Sagittarius axis affected your life.)

Set an intention, light a candle, meditate. How can you bring balance to the world?

...this new moon could have you considering ways to collaborate with others — friends, colleagues, loved ones, neighbors, all of the above — in a way that contributes to society as a whole. It could also urge you to embrace your own unique way of relating, of loving and being loved. And the moon's Uranian vibes could make for super-innovative, even slightly "weird," thought patterns and brainstorms and a wish to break free of any aspects of life you're finding especially restrictive at the moment.

One of the main features of this new moon is that it'll be happening just after romantic Venus — the ruler of love, beauty, and money — pairs up with lucky Jupiter, which has an amplifying effect on everything it comes in contact with. Both planets are currently in Aquarius, so their meet-up is influenced by the air sign's chill, teamwork-loving vibe. In other words, the dynamic, romantic, fortunate duo will bolster social harmony and relationships of all kinds, making this new moon an especially charmed time to prioritize, nurture, and celebrate love, friendship, and business bonds.

More at the link!

Enjoy new moon day! Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

enhydra lutris's picture

@Raggedy Ann

light, I think my intro to the Moon was Selene, and, much later Rhainnon. The moon's light is a cold light and casts very special shadows. Its heavenly motions too are most irregular for navigational and time telling purposes. It is a thing for poets:

In stony moonlight
hills and fields
on every side
white and bald as eggs

~~ ransetsu

Not that New Years' aren't:

New year dawning clear ...
cheerful sparrows
chatter
all day like people

~~ransetsu

Happy new moon and new year to you.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

I always wanted to live there. They know how to do things.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/10/nods-countrys-free-tuition-...
Hey, we can do things, we could have a nice place to live. Why not?

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@randtntx We, the richest country in the world can't have free education. Not only will we not pay to educate our children, but we use their college tuition money to pay rent for their parents. Nice country. Good plan, way to be progressive and make life better for everyone in our country.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/10/america-should-be-ashamed-t...

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@randtntx  
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/OSacz4GHQjs

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@lotlizard . That was good, thanks, made me laugh.

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@randtntx

I love going to comedy clubs in Canada. They get all their jokes from watching Americans.

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The off-topic conversations allow people to realize what passions and fears they share with others, whether it be positive and uplifting like food and wine, or negative and soul-chilling like war or police brutality (which is basically war).

The knowledge that one is not alone is absolutely priceless. Speaking strictly for myself, I learn as much, and take as much value away, from the open threads as I do from the well thought out essays that the writers here contribute. And sometimes, a proper rant is good for the soul. Open threads forever!

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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Good morning everyone.

Does anyone else have a problem with stink bugs? I am so sick of those stinky bastards. Every day I see and/or smell no less than 3. I have a bowl of soapy water for them, but they don't fly into it on their own. I have to move the bowl near them and knock them in it. If they're in a place where I can't just knock them in the bowl, I have to squish them with a paper towel and that makes them stink.

Just the other day, one flew on my granddaughter's playpen. It sprayed her hand but thankfully she didn't catch it and eat it. I did have to wash her hands and change her shirt though.

Anyone that doesn't have a problem with them should count their lucky stars. They're almost as bad as cockroaches. Except cockroaches don't smell as bad.

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@Jen
I suspect spiders eat them.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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@Jen I seldom see them, fortunately. But my son lives more rural and they have lots. Even their toddlers tell Dad when they see a stink bug in the house. He catches them and puts them in a container he keeps for them. Container has lid.

Stink bugs are an invasive species here in Pacific Northwest. I don't remember where their native habitat is, nor the problems they cause by being where they don't belong. Maybe it is eating food meant for other insects.

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@Granma

I don't think there are many bugs that mantises won't eat. Of course it's winter now, so there aren't any mantises about.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@Jen Pick them up gently with a tissue then release outside or flush down the toilet. No stink that way.

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@Jen in their vegetable gardens to keep the stink bugs off their squash.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@Jen hi, but then I searched on the web and ew! I'm sorry. What could be worse than a stinky cockroach? PU Don't say politician. Ha ha! Anyway, here is the bugsquad on trapping with light:
https://www.thebugsquad.com/stink-bugs/stink-bug-trap/

My favorite suggestion in the comments is this one, for the sport. She doesn't mention the stink though:

My husband and I bought a tennis racked bug zapper. We just go around the house and we zap the little critters. Best $2.00 I ever spent. $2.00 at harbor freight.
Also on the killing aspect these are not native to our country and they destroy farmers crops. So on this matter I no problem killing them

The lock upon my garden door is ants. I love my garden ants, but not when they are herding aphids all over everything. Already I can see them scouting as the dirt warms, and so I did order online neem oil and borax bait. Circle of Life includes death. da wheel

Peace and Love

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@eyo Thanks for that link, I'm going to try to make a few of those traps. Will not be releasing them though, especially since they're not even supposed to be in this area of the world.

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@eyo We have them in upstate NY both varieties are here a native and a non-native invasive. They are a lot like cockroaches except that they can fly and they release a bad smell when crushed. I have them all year as they winter in the firewood for the wood stove and wake up when brought inside. I kill them by hand squishing them in a tissue and dispose of them in a trash can with a lid. Oh, almost forgot to mention they often poop when trying to escape so if they are on soft goods like curtains or a piece of furniture you get to clean off their poop too. I hate them and would welcome any remedy to get rid of them for good.

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@jbob

They'll be only too happy to eat the stinkbugs.

We used to be overrun with stinkbugs - then the mantises moved in and chowed down. We saw some mighty big mantises for a year or two, and few to no stinkbugs.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

and correct.

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to go on at length, but discovered this site the other day - coverage of COVID situation that you are not going to be getting on social media or MSM. YMMV but, for instance:

WILLIAMSVILLE, NEW YORK — Millard Fillmore Suburban Hospital refused to give 80-year-old Judith Smentkiewicz Ivermectin at her family’s request. So the family took the case to court, and won.

Smentkiewicz was on a ventilator and given a 20% chance to live on December 31, according to a report by the Buffalo News. Michael Smentkiewicz, Judith’s son, said he did a lot of research, and thought Ivermectin was the best option for his gravely-ill mother. Ivermectin has shown to be highly effective in treating early and late stage COVID-19 patients. It has also shown to be effective as a prophylaxis. Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug often used to treat lice.

Ms. Smentkiewicz got her first dose of Ivermectin on January 2. She made a “complete turnaround.” Smentkiewicz was taken off the ventilator, and transferred out of the intensive care unit within 48 hours, according to court documents. But doctors in the new unit refused to give her anymore doses of Ivermectin. Michael and his sister Michelle Kulbacki took the hospital to court...

Nothing like having to go to court to get a doctor to save your life. Wonder how many are dead because they had no such recourse or (mis)placed their trust in a medical system that regards them as (unlike profits) dispensable...

We are being told that benefits of vaccination outweigh risk, but what is the risk of jumping out of an airplane at 10,000 feet? Kind of depends, doesn't it? Without a parachute, terminally risky. With a functional one and the knowledge of how to use it - considerably less.

Effective therapeutics, especially cheap and relatively safe ones with long-established track records, such as HCQ and Ivermectin are the parachutes in this scenario, but the FDA/Fauci/Big Pharma establishment seem bent on denying their efficacy and the right of you and your doctor to decide to employ one should you end up in free fall...

Also:

Have been hearing some pretty horrific things about the longer term risks of the mRNA "vaccines" - that they may induce formation of prions, that they may cause severe autoimmune reactions - not so much immediately but in a longer time frame.

from:

Microbiology & Infectious Diseases
COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease J. Bart Classen, MD

...
This paper focuses on a novel potential adverse event mechanism causing prion disease which could be even more common and debilitating than the viral infection the vaccine is designed to prevent. While this paper focuses on one potential adverse event there are multiple other potential fatal adverse events as discussed below.
Over the last two decades there has been a concern among certain scientists that prions could be used as bioweapons. More recently there has been a concern that ubiquitous intracellular molecules could be activated to cause prion disease including Alzheimer’s disease, ALS and other neurodegenerative diseases. This concern originates due to potential for misuse of research data on the mechanisms by which certain RNA binding proteins like TDP-43, FUS and others can be activated to form disease causing prions. The fact that this research, which could be used for bioweapons development, is funded by private organizations including the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and Ellison Medical Foundation [2] without national/international oversight is also a concern...

Commenter to another article had this to say about mRNA "vaccines" - there are people here more qualified than me to assess the validity of the comment - but I'd sure be doing my own research if I was contemplating vaccination - at this point I trust my own immune system a whole lot more than Bill Gates, WHO, Pfizer...

Ralph Thinks
2/11/2021 at 8:49 AM
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I do wish everybody would stop calling this a “vaccine”.

mRNA is pre-programmed genetic material ordered to continually reproduce spike proteins. In this application, it is a bioweapon designed to kill you the minute your body encounters a virus with similar proteins in the future.

But what if if you’ve already recovered from COVID, like these poor (now dead) folks..?

Then you just injected a perpetual mRNA protein-reproducing engine into an otherwise healthy body that is already sensitized to a similar viral protein signature. Your poor body – it’s going to try to put out a fire on one side of a building as a gasoline tanker is continually pumping fuel in through a window on the opposite side. NOT A GOOD OUTCOME FOR YOUR BODY.

So this stupid concept has never worked, and it killed every lab animal they tried this in. That’s why no mRNA “vaccine” ever (EVER) entered clinical trials, they literally never made it out of the lab.

The truth is out there, you just need to want to know it and seek it out for yourself… Check out:

https://rumble.com/vd9jtn-covid-19-bioweapon-...

and

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/vaccines/

Cheers, all.

Bedtime in Nihon...

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@Blue Republic
but not mRNA vaccine. Viruses can cause effects decades later. A University of Chicago doctor told my father that his Parkinson's was aggravated by having had the Spanish flu in 1918 when he was two years old.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

@The Voice In the Wilderness @The Voice In the Wilderness

her parents and both her older siblings all survived the Spanish Flu epidemic, mother was only 6 or 7 years old, brother and sister were older. One of those things that I kick myself now for is never having had the presence of mind to ask any of them about it...

Oh, well.

As my mom said that her mom used to say: "We are too soon old and too late smart."

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@The Voice In the Wilderness
Sinopharm has been producing a killed virus while CanSino is making an adenovirus vectored vaccine (like the Russian Sputnik V). Only the US is manufacturing the untested mRNA vaccines, which I will not accept for the very reasons Dr. Merritt discusses.

Dr. Merritt did not give China credit for this fact. She also insinuates the Chinese have weaponized Covid 19) in the above talk Covid-19 Bioweapon - Dr. Lee Merritt. She has also stated (in other discussions) that PLA soldiers are suddenly keeling over from vaccinations of mRNA vaccines, which is COMPLETELY false. They were testing the standard killed virus which Dr. Merritt approves.

Dr. Merritt also slandered ethnic Chinese Americans who were working in American firms. There are millions of Chinese American citizens working in the sciences in America.

She speaks of vitamin D as a "new discovery" for prevention and treatment of viral infections. This has been known for years. I have been taking 10,000 iu vitamin D since February last year (it's also good for cancer).

I think we are all familiar with Dr. John Campbell's reports from Mar 9, 2020:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5yVGmfivAk]

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3inQ9C1yqBY&t=0s]
Vitamin D is not just a casual supplement ...it is a non-negotiable cellular necessity. Not only for the bones but its very important for a healthy immune system, brain and heart health, to combat depression and to prevent cancer. Vitamin D is treatment for disorders of the immune system starting from allergies to the most dreaded autoimmune diseases. Know the Powers of Vitamin D by watching my video.

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@Blue Republic

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@lotlizard

for a few decades now.

Accounts (or provides excuses) for not often replying to things in a timely fashion.

You are in Saxony or Hanover or somewhere like that, no?

A long way from Hawaii...

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@Blue Republic  
as long as you have the spirit of truth and true aloha in your heart, then Hawai‘i is also around you, in you, and with you, wherever your earthly physical manifestation may be.

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@lotlizard
a little spirit of Aloha, but they are simply abusers (and not Hawaiian). Case closed.

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@Blue Republic

I suspect Ralph Opines would be far better and I suspect he has zero evidence for any of that. Just my two cents worth. For starts, there would be no worry over how long the effects would last if it were perpetual, and if it were "a bioweapon designed to kill you ..." then it would already have killed vast numbers. Of course, Moderna is no doubt lying about starting human trials back in March of last year, and about it not killing all the lab animals it was tested on, but it has already been given to huge numbers of humans.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Austin is facing a week of weather that has not been experienced in decades. Today we are not getting above the 30’s and it will remain this way for the rest of the week and through Tuesday. There is even a possibility of snow so the crowds are going wild!

Glad to see they are sending out busses to the areas where the homeless have been camping and offering to take them to shelters for protection from the weather. There are strong winds and it is very miserable in the brief period I have been outside.

Have a lot of cold weather gear but it appears left some of the stuff in Santa Fe because never expected this to happen.

Really did enjoy Magi’s OT about the climate. I am sure she did as I did and feel overwhelmed about all the climate issues we are facing or seeming to be ignored by our government. Always felt I needed to get out and do something to help the environment after her OT!

Guess this rambling discourse does prove that the OT does allow for all types to join in!

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Life is what you make it, so make it something worthwhile.

This ain't no dress rehearsal!

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100+ miles away with 2 stops along the way. It is supposed to rain later, both here and there (and ll points between) so it is TT time (truck travel), trading mileage for greatly improved visibility and crash resistance. Personally cycling between enhancing and enjoying personal ineffeciency (for reasons) and trying to increase efficiency or eliminate inefficiency (also for reasons). It seems that each has its place.

I woild note that the whole efficiency thing, especially in todays world, especially in the US and EU, is generally an overrated hangover from another era. Foisted upon us by efficiency experts with their time and motion studies and all that to enhance out productivity (throughput), not in any personal growth or development sense, but purely in terms of our exploitation, of the measure of our strenght, intelligence, energy and spirit that can be extracted for the benefit of those who exploiut us. (Note to self, this could turn into an essay maybe?) Ah well, typing while eating brakfast in order to increase time available for other pursuits later. I can only hope that they include a lot of idleness or non-purposive behavior.

Meanwhile, first stop 65 miles and 75 minutes away (boy is that second number a crock). Time to gather all the take along stuff including civilized/picnic knife of the day, an Opinel #8 in this case.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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Max the cat has diarrhea
and he just don’t care.
He’s never been a
tidy cat but in old
age he’s turned
into a total slob,
but I love him.
Love means
never sayin’
”You Stink”

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Rivers are horses - and kayaks are their saddles

Pluto's Republic's picture

If there were a line of padding under the block quotes, it would be like heaven.

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Gina Carano fired from 'Mandalorian' after social media post

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Obiwan Kanobe

Was it really what she said or who she said that about? What if she said that Americans made its citizens fear and hate Native Americans so that it would soften them up for when the government murdered as many as they could, killed their food supply and then stuck them on some of the worst land here in America. If she had said those same words directed at NA would that have been okay? We did that. It is history.

Nate Robinson who wrote at the guardian was fired recently after writing things that were critical of Israel. Add in Israel getting congress and many state legislatures to pass laws outlawing BDS against Israel for its human rights abuses. That is definitely a strike against our right to free speech. I think that is what happened here too. Make a plug against Israel and you stand alone. I wonder how Yoda would have phrased that?

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/515265-nazi-comparisons-gina-carano/

I want to know if she had talked about any other nationality would she still have been banned>? Have you seen what some people have said about Russia and Russians? Brennan said that Russians are genetically predetermined to lie or something like that. If he had mentioned Israel instead in his statement a ton of briks and all.

Facebook banned Project Veritas for videoing the FB head honcho at his home.

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt

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O G~d of our land, O our land’s G~d
We worship Thy holy, holy name
From the solar systems of the heavens, we will bind for you a wreath
Your warriors, the assembly of the ages
For Thee is one day as a thousand years
And a thousand years a day and no more
One small flower of eternity with a quivering tear
That praises its G~d and dies
Iceland’s thousand years
Iceland’s thousand years
One small flower of eternity with a quivering tear
That praises its G~d and dies

[video:https://youtu.be/CDKy-vf0JDc]

A national anthem that reminds one of the transience of all things, including nation and country? In line with yesterday’s item about a practice in Bhutan — thinking about death five times a day — being that culture’s secret to happiness.

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@lotlizard

who decided that since there is no one at the NBA games anymore not to have the national anthem played before the game. I cheered because I have never liked it being a mandatory celebration if one feels different than the rest around them. But the NBA freaked out as did that Texas dude that thinks it is okay if Grandma dies as long as the economy keeps cooking. He is making it a law that it must be played at every event in texaz....

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt

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simply be a mud-slinging fight with life out of frustrations. nah, nah, I am much better person when I am closed. Wink

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Merkel is a gonner, Van der Leyen has no trust anymore, The EU is getting on our nerves, I want to live ... nowhere right now.

I envy the Americans who have their own piece of land to live on and farm on it. Very privileged.

Well as you can see I am in a bad mood. Waiting for the EB and then go to sleep.

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Not yet, Sonoma.

pressdemocrat.com

At least one of those mutated viruses is already at our doorstep: the so-called “California variant,” which has been detected in both Marin and Lake counties, according to data compiled by GISAID Initiative.

The full meaning of the California variant’s presence in areas that neighbor Sonoma County isn’t clear. Dr. Kismet Baldwin, the county’s deputy health officer, said she had no information on this strain of the virus or its level of risk.

There simply hasn’t been enough research on this variant to know how it compares to the globally dominant strain of the virus that was first detected in Wuhan Province, China, in January 2020.

“The early data indicates this is maybe more transmissible,” said Dr. Patrick Ayscue, a senior biosecurity fellow at the Chan Zuckerberg Biohub. “But we’re not seeing a clear signal yet.”

There is obvious reason to take this seriously.

Obvious?

"so called..."
"isn't clear..."
"hasn't been enough research..."

...Chan Zuckererg Biohub?

"There is obvious reason to plaster this headline all over the front page!"

good luck

I wore the second liner inside my homemade mask during all the time spent out in yesterday's agora. It was 76F up on my little deck, now it is 50F and drizzling. I think I saw a tiny tomato sprout volunteering downstairs, right where I am planning to set the seeds that have yet to sprout inside. heh

Peace and Love

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@eyo

I have seen reports of COVID being found in sewer systems in Italy in Sept. 2019 months before the Wuhan outbreak. This info has been mentioned more than once and coming from a few other countries close to the town in Italy, but haven't seen much on since. WHO has determined that it did not escape from the Wuhan Lab. Not many believe it. Kinda gets in the way of CHINA is bad and we might have to fight them soon so don't get too attached to it. Biden has been playing chicken in the S China seas just because people don't have enough stress in their lives. Oh yeah in the Black Sea too and NATO will build to NATO bases in Ukraine which I am sure Russia won't mind. Just like we wouldn't if they built a few in Mexico. RIght? RIGHT?

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt

@snoopydawg LOL! Nothing says Empty Desk like Joe Biden in the Oval Office. sorry

... if they built a few in Mexico. RIght? RIGHT?

What? No, no, no.

Peace and Love

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Are you scared of America? Yes I am, hugely scared.

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Why am I not called a German-American?

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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North Carolina, you have my attention. As thematic open threads draw attention, magi's wonderful climate one, for instance, or Friday's funk, and ...

Lookout spoke of this on Sunday in the watch and he made a good point about the value of themed weekly columns.

However, without a host prepared to write weekly thematic works, columns, and sit around and encourage dialogue; that doesn't work ideally either, does it?

When folks contribute their time, free of charge as you and Joe in evening's do and have for years done so graciously, we all benefit individually and as a community.

No one experienced on blogs enjoys thread-jacking, always obvious or trolls, less so, or rude people, haters of life or conspirators for that matter.

No one is rushing to fill Saturday's; we've been discussing alternatives in PM's. I don't have an immediate solution beyond burdening someone who already contributes an OT.

And, frankly, i don't wish to end the wonderful experience of "Welcome to Saturday's" either. It's as i said, presently burnt out with much to accomplish, think upon, resources to allocate to good places and realizing i'm racing against a clock to do so.

Love this community, the good people in it and don't wish to shirk my responsibilities to it.

So, in comments i've read these past two weeks about OT's and in private ones suggesting alternatives.

I offer this temporary solution to Saturday's. I'll continue to put up an OT with photo and simple greeting, not promising thematic ones that take time and Saturday's OT lives. This is a win-win for me as when i've time and creative influences guiding me, more of the usual which takes hours to create and host may appear again in time.

A simple OT, no hosting during the day guaranteed.

Is this a reasonable compromise until dust settles?

Thanks for the discussion and look forward to your guidance.

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enhydra lutris's picture

@smiley7

approve as well.

be well and have a good one, and be sure to allocate ample to other things and places.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris I approve as well. What I look forward to in your OT has been the photo and that usually was enough to put me in the mood for a comment. Of course I loved the poems and stories as well but glad to continue to see you!

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Life is what you make it, so make it something worthwhile.

This ain't no dress rehearsal!

In keeping with the spirit of the OT, what is on my radar is the cold front. We are about to have 4 days of freezing weather, including up to 5 inches of snow on Monday. To Texans, that is dreadful. We are not accustomed to icy or snowy highways, so we inept drivers are a danger to ourselves and others. We are crazy drivers, by definition.
So, what do I have planned? A little glamping trip to Toledo Bend Lake for 4 days at the cabin on the edge of the lake. Like, we will be hunkering down for vacay at the exact time we experience the coldest days of winter. Perfect timing, huh? It may be difficult to get back home, so I might be in zoom court there. I am taking my 2 case files for my Tuesday court docket with me, just in case.
Well, about OTs. I understand them to be open to whatever. It makes me feel I am not being courteous if I see an OT with a tightly written theme if I do not acknowledge and stay with the theme, exactly like I do in essays. If it is a themed OT or an essay in which I either have no interest or input, I just find something else to read. In truly open threads, I love the randomness of comments that can land spontaneously and go everywhere.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

and as our community is accustomed to having daily threads to share the weather, ills, pains, births, pleasures and the fixing of the roof and whatever; open threads need to be.

Just read Johnny's thread of this morning and so happy studentofearh has volunteered. Hosts do matter, imho.

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responses, etc..., I would slap up something about whatever ran through my mind...travel, music, politics, current events, or that scary story about my legal assistant who had a driver pull a gun on her as he passed her on the highway, leading to a few thoughts about road rage...
One thing I would not do, is enslave myself to writing and composition. Hell, smiley, I am enslaved enough by my profession. Must have free time to be purely spontaneous.
I am glad you can now write the essay in your head when the muse inspires you, and be confident the comments will stay on topic.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

enjoy your weekend escape, champagne's on me.

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