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2 Companies Say Their Vaccines Are 95% Effective. What Does That Mean?

You might assume that 95 out of every 100 people vaccinated will be protected from Covid-19. But that’s not how the math works.

Short article, NYT courtesy of pockethits: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.html

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dorking (how to find anything on the Internet)

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caution: After I dove headfirst into these techniques, using der google, after a bit I got queried whether or not I was a bot due to "unusual activity".

"Thanksgiving Day" is coming, so, if you need something to be thankful for this year ----
Just be thankful you're not a medieval penis investigator

(I mean, really, who knew?)

https://boingboing.net/2020/11/21/just-be-thankful-youre-not-a-medieval-...

Entertainment If the above article wasn't entertaining enough, 2020 seemed like a good time to bring back a classic, at least to somebody:

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enhydra lutris's picture

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

was that a church thing?
somes thats got and somes thats not got

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@QMS

infertility, and only for same, because religion. Hence need to prove dude can't get it up.

thanks for the tune. I wish to be put on an elevated platform in the wild lands for the vultures to feast on, but my wife says not happening, so, anywhere, I guess, is cool.

be well and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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Was shown before Le Roi de Cœur, The King of Hearts. Iirc there was another short shown with these two. Just can't remember.

We had drive-ins.

Thank you so much.

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A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.

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@Dawn's Meta

forget the details of where and when I saw it, except probably not too long after release at College Theater in Berkeley. Great credits, indeed.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

for my ashes and what not
not sure what the undertaker will do with the
titanium hip replacement, maybe recycle?
but the ashes are going here
in our fire pit
an ancient indigin burying pit
finding all kinds of bones and shells here

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hard to see, but the stainless rod to the right is the comfortable resting spot

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@QMS

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

RantingRooster's picture

what happens to people who actually get the vaccines, and even then will wait maybe a year before I'll be willing to take the jab. Infrastructure for distribution is a joke, so we'll see what happens.

They left off "hemp seeds", which are one of the most best sources of protein, as well as having the 9 essential amino acids our bodies don't produce but are "essential".

Of the twenty amino acids we need, nine are classed as ‘essential’. These are the ones our bodies cannot synthesise from other amino acids and metabolic processes. This is why they must be consumed as part of our diet. Hemp seed contains significant amounts of all nine essential amino acids, making it the perfect way to ensure your body is getting the right nutrition on a daily basis.

If one is going to go Vegan, do not leave out Hemp Seeds, they contain high amounts of the best protein our bodies need for a healthy body.

I made butter for my wife when she was sick with cancer using hemp seeds and she loved it! (It did take 3 tries to get the recipe right...)

So, I guess it's not a good thing to tell one's Dev team to stop dorking around?

Too bad they didn't have Viagra back in medieval England. (hehehe)

I've seen the Bambi vs Godzilla before and have always thought it was great!

What a fun post, have a great day.

Drinks

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C99, my refuge from an insane world.

enhydra lutris's picture

@RantingRooster

another healthy thing about the deadly killer weed. Thanks for the info. Thanks also for the tune.

be well and have a good one.

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Shahryar's picture

By the time I reached the beginning of the explanation I got booted.

Could someone summarize it?

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@Shahryar The article was worth a read and thanks to enhydra lutris for the link.

A few brief excerpts and it shows that perhaps the manufactures are actually promoting their product and their bottom line.

From the headlines, you might well assume that these vaccines — which some people may receive in a matter of weeks — will protect 95 out of 100 people who get them. But that’s not actually what the trials have shown. Exactly how the vaccines perform out in the real world will depend on a lot of factors we just don’t have answers to yet — such as whether vaccinated people can get asymptomatic infections and how many people will get vaccinated.

Efficacy and effectiveness are related to each other, but they’re not the same thing. And vaccine experts say it’s crucial not to mix them up. Efficacy is just a measurement made during a clinical trial. “Effectiveness is how well the vaccine works out in the real world,” said Naor Bar-Zeev, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

It’s possible that the effectiveness of coronavirus vaccines will match their impressive efficacy in clinical trials. But if previous vaccines are any guide, effectiveness may prove somewhat lower.The results, Dr. Paltiel said, were heartbreaking. He and his colleagues found that when it comes to cutting down on infections, hospitalizations and deaths, the deployment mattered just as much as the efficacy. The study left Dr. Paltiel worried that the United States has not done enough to prepare for the massive distribution of the vaccine in the months to come.

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@Shahryar

ussed to determine the 95& number,

They take a large population and give 1/2 the vaccine while giving the other 1/2 a placebo.
They wait for people to become symptomatic and test them.
The tally those testing positive according to which group they weere in.
efficacy is computed based on the difference (or perhaps ratio) between the positives from the two groups.

If exactly 1/2 of the positives were from each group, efficacy == zero. If all of them were from the placebo group, efficacy == 100%. So, if 95% of the positives are from the placebo group, then the vaccine is deemed to have an efficacy of 95% (I think, already lost my copy of the article, you know the NYT).

Because non-symptomatic victims and false positives both exist anc can't be accounted for by the stated methodology, the value isn't necessarily that good of a projection of the of the likelihood of a vaccinated person catching the disease.

be wewll and have a good one.

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@enhydra lutris

it's interesting and I can see the math.

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about the effectiveness of the vaccines.
I was reluctant to get one until 6 to 12 months down the road, but I might just wait even longer.
Thanks for passing along this information.

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