How We Fight (or don't)
From the front page of today's NY Times,
President Barack Obama, 2016 "I simply ask Republicans in the Senate to give him (Merrick Garland) a fair hearing and then an up-and-down vote. If you don't, then it will not only be an abdication of the Senate's constitutional duty, it will indicate a process for nominating and confirming judges that is beyond repair." Indeed.
Later in 2016 Mitch said, "One of my proudest moments was when I looked Barack Obama in the eye and I said, "Mr. President, you will not fill the Supreme Court vacancy."
Many of us recall what happened after President Obama called for a fair hearing and then a vote. NOTHING.
The Senate tradition was that a Supreme Court nominee meets with all 100 Senators individually in their offices for about 10 minutes. Generally, photos are taken.
Very few Republicans agreed to host Merrick Garland.
No Senate hearings took place. No vote was ever called.
What did the Democrats do? Also, nothing.
No crowds in the Senate hallways waylaying (R) Senators and urging them to meet with Garland.
No marches. No protests. Nothing.
Michael Moore's Rumble podcast this morning is urging Democrats to fight. Is he kidding.
There may very well be a plan that can slow Mitch's roll. Please share it with the group if you can fathom it.

Comments
Is there a list of the Republican Senators
that had the courtesy to meet Garland for ten minutes?
@Marie There was at one time.
I'll try to find it.
NYCVG
@NYCVG Here's what I could
NYCVG
Thanks.
You're right...
evidently the senate can push the nomination through. The dimwits could perhaps shut down the senate, but I can't see that. FDR threatened to increase the number of justices.
https://www.history.com/news/franklin-roosevelt-tried-packing-supreme-court
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
You're right
Her opponent, Buttar is calling her move, "pre-emptive acquiesence."
NYCVG
Centrists think that Schumer’s
"We are going to take everything off the table" if McConnell pushes through with it means that if democrats take the senate then Biden will expand the Supreme Court to more justices and also at the federal level. lol...no democrats are NOT going to do anything close to that. They’ve watched as democrats have folded to republicans since Trumps election, but they think that they will stand firm on this? They don’t even stand firm on McConnell's judges.
Boy o boy will they be surprised when after Trump loses he will leave DC and won’t be prosecuted for all those crimes he’s committed. They believe that Biden’s gonna be the 1st president that charges another one. T hee...exploding heads.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
If he loses
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
hmmmm....
i have a Q in my ignorance.
was RBG 'the liberal lion' all she was cracked up to be? awkwardly phrased, of course, but what i mean is: were there other civil rights decisions in which she gave more power to police? i've been seeing a few short criticisms on Twitter that i can't make sense of that then link to PDFs of cases i can't want to try to parse.
IDK
Self-centered Clinton insider who thought the Supreme Court was "hers."
That seems clear.
NYCVG
heh; i'd recenty seen CNN
rebranded as the 'Clinton News Network'.
but here's one of the ones i'd seen, and no, i don't mean you or anyone anyone has to follow try to decode it:
small wonder, then, that
she'd dissented the majority opinion that passed Citzen United into law. i'd forgotten that the hillary clinton documentaty was the genesis of the suit.
she'd also dissented with the majority opinion that effectively killed Miranda, but elena pffft kagan, obomba's choice voted with the majority.
No.
thank you for correcting my error;
i've been watching too much Twitter, it seems. sotomayor has been great, imo, but could you explain what the RBG mold is?
Broadly --
Scalia was generally uncompromising on free speech; so, RBG may have been in tune with him on that.
thank you and your awesome
memory again. i'm still jangled by the news that it was orrin hatch who'd suggested her to clinton. but then, even hearing his name again was on the shocking side. i felt the same when i'd heard some quotes from newt gingrich recently!
mr. wd still has a ragged t-shirt satirizing newtie that came with a long, long, ago Mother Jones subscription.
when i clicked into the MSN homepage just now, the Rolling Thunder news (as mr. wd calls it) has pelosi saying they may start impeachment proceedings if herr trump tries to choose RBG's replacement. last night RT had him saying he'll choose a woman. Nikki Haley? Ivanka?
Pelosi etal need to stop
Have no idea why Clinton felt it necessary to seek advice/consent from the ranking minority member of the judiciary committee. Democrats held the majority at the time of RBG's nomination. Perhaps he feared that the chair of the judiciary committee (Biden) was too weak to shepherd his nomination through the committee.
a good Q, and your answer may be correct.
but that's the Queen of Team Blue: shake your fist, stamp your feet...and do nothing else.
What I want to know --
is when will Democrats wake up and recognize that their party is in fact a Vichy party -- it's there to collaborate with Republicans just as the Vichy regime was there to collaborate with the Nazis.
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
@Cassiodorus Why would they wake up?
They are getting rich from this pretense.
NYCVG
All of them?
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
Brainwashed by the MSM
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
All the ones that
"matter" (reg'd TM) are and will continue to be well compensated. The other ones? Hah. Where are they gonna *go*?.
The dems are an utter lost cause, and cannot go the way of the Whigs fast enough to suit me. Looking forward to my Green vote for what's-his-name. The Biden/Kopmala ticket may be the kick that dislodges the broomstick that holds up the shack perched over the Okeefnokeekokeemokiewokee swamp (all thanks to the old MAD magazine)...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
just for the fun of it,
Trademark the symbol is: numbers lock on, press alt and 0153 together, you've got say...Democracy for Some™. copyright is alt + 0169 or #FakeNews© or #MeToo©. ; )
Dems have put out a domestic 'color revolution'-like plan
in case Orange Man (OM) wins, I suppose. (iow, it employs many of the same tactics utilized by the US in foreign countries, in order to topple regimes when the Washington Establishment is not particularly pleased with the outcome of an election) So, wouldn't be too concerned about them fighting back.
Plus, AZ Senatorial race results 'may' knock down to only '3' the number of Repub Senators needed to defeat OM's nomination. (which, I suspect, won't be too hard to come by)
BTW, one of the primary authors of the Brookings White Paper "served as a counsel for the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee during the impeachment process of President Donald J. Trump in 2020." (per Wikipedia)
The plan will encourage the opposite stance regarding supporting BLM and/or Dem Party groups/protests. Remember, in 2014, Sharpton and Company were dispatched to various communities (Ferguson, etc.) to tamp down protests. And, a "Commission" to 'study' police brutality was set up--headed by former DC Police Chief Charles Ramsey, who presided over the most prolific manisfestation of police violence against peaceful protestors in the history of DC. (his department set a record for the highest dollar amount of awards granted to protestors, in DC)
Haven't read anything about this in the MSM, but, heard about it on Carlson's show. From there, searched and found the document they were talking about at the Brookings website. For whatever reason, his show is the only one, on Cable teevee, that gives writers such as Greenwald, M Tracey, and Aaron Mate a platform. IIRC, Greenwald has stated that he's been blackballed by CNN and MSDNC. What a sad commentary, if true.
If anyone wants links to the paper, let me know, and, I'll relocated/post it.
Oh, WJC is all over the Sunday shows today, defending our democracy. Rich--considering that he called for a government "Ministry Of Truth" when he was interviewed by "The Money Honey" on CNBC several years ago. (Maria Bartiromo interview) I believe it was in 2011, before FSC's run for President.
The interview also included a CEO of a cyber security firm. Naturally, both of them called for what we're seeing now--massive media censorship, especially, of social media. At the time, I posted an excerpt from the transcript at DKos. Get this--they (CNBC) have now scrubbed that one phrase. (Ministry Of Truth) The rest of the text, remains the same, as far as I can tell. Luckily, there's residual evidence of that phrase being used at other online websites.
Thanks for the essay. Everyone have a good "rest of your weekend."
Mollie
"The leaders of this new movement are replacing traditional liberal beliefs about tolerance, free inquiry, and even racial harmony with ideas so toxic and unattractive that they eschew debate, moving straight to shaming, threats, and intimidation."
~~Matt Taibbi, The American Press Is Destroying Itself, June 12, 2020
"I know, I know. All passion; no street smarts."
~~Captain West, 1992 Rob Reiner/Aaron Sorkin Movie, A Few Good Men
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went.”
~~Will Rogers, Actor & Social Commentator (1856-1950)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I have been reading about that plan
I decided to wait and see if it comes to pass. My question is why did they let so many people know about it if it borders on sedition? There has been lots of talk about how Trump is not going to leave if he loses which is just silly. But now add this plan and it’s more fear mongering about the results. Guess we’ll see what happens in the end, but I feel it’s a psyop.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
SD--I'm not hearing anything about it on Cable teevee. Curious
to know where you're hearing about this White Paper.
You ask,
Again, haven't heard a peep, until Carlson's show covered it, a week or so, ago.
Dunno, but, the way the paper is written, it may be the reason that AG Barr is talking about pursuing sedition charges. (in anticipation)
I've only scanned the document, but, it sounds as though these Brookings Fellows are endorsing fomenting a regime (Administration) change--meaning, throwing OM out of office--regardless of the election results. IOW, even if he manages to win the electoral college vote.
I could be wrong, but, after the Russia Ruse, and the impeachment trial heavily based upon a bureaucrat (Vindman) being unhappy with the tone and/or substance of a 'phone call,' I'm convinced that there may be serious violence on the streets, if the Dem Party decides to overturn an election.
(that is, in event that OM wins the Electoral College vote, but loses popular vote)
Of course, Mr M and I are smack dab in the middle of his supporters. So, we're in total overdrive, trying to get a waiver to travel out of the country--ASAP.
Fingers crossed!
You and Charlie take good care.
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
This is one of the articles on it
I’ve read a few others that basically say the same thing. I’m keeping an open mind on it, but I still think it’s a ploy.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/coming-coup
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
[Edited] Thanks, for that link, SD. I can believe it. Hadn't
seen this piece, but, of course, I've heard the various 'talking points' that he discusses--election war games played out by Bill Kristol, John Podesta, etc., the push for universal mail-in voting (unsolicited) and risk of ballot harvesting, various Dem Party officials (including Biden) boasting that 'the military' will frog march OM out the door on January 20.
Agree with the Zero Hedge Dude when he suggests that the idea is to super heavily propagandize and/or 'prime' folks, so to speak, so that, when OM's ouster occurs (legally or illegally, meaning, whether he legitimately loses, or not) it won't seem terribly odd and/or frightening to the general public--or, perhaps, to his supporters, since others would likely be very happy--to see him frogmarched out of the White House.
Heh, time will tell. Again, thanks for the link.
[Edited: Added phrase for clarification.]
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
This is true
Glenn, Aaron Mate and other leftists journalists are not invited on to MSDNC or CNN to give a different perspective on certain topics. Rachel will never let either of them come on her show to rebut the nonsense she spouts. And after Warren said that she won’t go on Fox because they’re misogynistic the centrists has decried that no one from the 'left' go on it either. Bernie was very naughty for going on to give his town hall. And of course Tulsi going on Carlson's show meant that she was a Russian puppet of Putin. I wish I was kidding.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
this one by matthew ehret
at strategic culture sept. 16, 2020 echoes it, seemingly. 'Will a Military Coup Undo the November Elections, Donald Trump and the Republic Itself?'
I just shake my head at that
This goes back to my saying that I think we are being prepared for another psyop campaign on something that will not happen. So what if Trump refuses to leave the white house? The minute the clock strikes whatever time on Jan 21, 2021 Biden becomes president and Trump becomes an ex one. The power is transferred to the new president. Period. But boy does it ramp up the fear mongering. Not to say that Trump could use the courts to delay the final decision, but that's all he can do. If I am wrong please let me know. As Blue republic stated a semi color revolution has been playing out since Trump won through the Russian nonsense, Mueller and the impeachment farce. People think Nancy is going to impeach Trump if he goes through with a SC appointment. For gawd's sake she has no standing because the constitution gives him the power to do it. She take that kabuki ploy though before she stands firm and threatens to shut down the government. She won't even hint at threatening to do it. And her sycophantic supports will let her get away with it. Schumer? Yeah he's worthless. See my essay for thoghts on him.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
i have to agree that these similar
columns are all likely psyops, time will tell. and i'm totally mindful of the disgusting fact that the Blues are only willing to fund the post office...until after the election vote-by-mail ballots are in.
i do need to ask blue republic whether or not his civil war conclusions/conjectures are based on what i believe he called the very long 'bannon' video or not. but the gene sharpe/otpor/CANVAS (are they called 'color revolutions' have been going on since socialist milosevic (another of bill clinton's wars) to the attempted overthrow of hugo chavez >>>?.
oh, and wsws had reported that RBG had traveled to egypt to support the overthrow of mubarac (you'll remember hellary's part in installing th next US puppet govt. better than i).
anyhoo interesting times. thanks for your thoughts on the matter/s. and so far, no word on the release of the police body cam footage in the shooting of linden cameron.
SD--are you aware that Portland, Seattle & New York declared
"anarchies" by AG Barr. (supposedly, will be grounds for withholding federal funds)
The NYT says that protesters are now in neighborhoods with bullhorns, demanding that residents support them. Will try to relocate the piece, and post it. IIRC, saw it at MSNBC news feed.
Regarding Dems and MSM Media--No doubt they're trying to create a state of fear (and, capitalize on the ignorance of many) in their Base--that's how they've run for decades.
Having said that--CNN and MSDNC don't run the programming that the do, 24/7, pushing the election "war games," repeatedly declaring that OM won't leave office because he joked about staying an extra term because of his poor treatment (impeachment)--for no good reason.
Many people say that don't listen to cable or network news. Might be a good idea to start doing so--for a while, at least. Remember, a lot of 'regular' (non-political or nonpartisan) people do--and, unfortunately, they believe every word of what they hear!
See below.
Mollie
"The leaders of this new movement are replacing traditional liberal beliefs about tolerance, free inquiry, and even racial harmony with ideas so toxic and unattractive that they eschew debate, moving straight to shaming, threats, and intimidation."
~~Matt Taibbi, The American Press Is Destroying Itself, June 12, 2020
"I know, I know. All passion; no street smarts."
~~Captain West, 1992 Rob Reiner/Aaron Sorkin Movie, A Few Good Men
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went.”
~~Will Rogers, Actor & Social Commentator (1856-1950)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
RT.com has it, too,
and earlier Barr was calling all involved in black lives matters protests across amerikkka: 'domesttic terrorists'.
menwhile, many believe that DT's October surprise will include thug pompeo's latin americn tour to urge colombia (under NATO's umbrella') and guyana to depose nicolas maduro. by whatever means necessary? another USAID/NED/OAS/CIA attempt. but that's a much longer story...
at least dementia joe's honest: barry o'bomba will be his puppet master:
Thanks for that info, WD! Well, somehow I'm not
totally shocked--but, I'm thoroughly disgusted regarding overturning Maduro. From what I'm hearing, OM (Orange Man) is desperately going after the Hispanic vote. Especially, the Cuban vote in Florida. So, guess that's a pander to that cohort.
I could be wrong, but, I think AG Barr may be in 'practice' mode for what he anticipates will be the aftermath of the November election.
Heh, Mr M and I are pretty much 'sequestered' or quarantined, anyway. But, sorta beginning to worry that there will be civil unrest like we've never witnessed. IOW, the BLM protests in some cities may look like child' play, before all is said and done.
One thing for sure--we're staying out of all of it!
Take care. My best to Mr WD. Both of you stay well, and safe.
Blue
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
fingers crossed, then,
even though i have no idea of what an 'emergency exit visa' might mean. i assume passports are required? and either flying or driving to a new location, but as far as flights, how many airlines are even in the air by now? the skies here are silent save for an occasional turbo-prop puddle jumper, and local hobby fliers.
earlier, during the height of our local fire season, it was all copters and military planes for slurry-bombing.
I live 20 miles from the Canadian border and it is still closed
closed due to
covid restrictions? thanks for the info. ha! we tried to tour canada one fall...and were sent back to Go. of course, we were hitch-hiking with our spaniel dog and had to walk up to the border crossing, where the officials looked at us...and shook their heads No.No.No.
we'd been working construction in brekenridge, co, and had tons of money with us. ah, well.
Yes, it's closed due to covid
This domestic color revolution
business is deserving of its own essay/thread.
Some good investigative reporting has been done by revolver.news
who note that not only does the "color revolution" playbook appear
to be being followed here - effectively a regime change coup, but that
it is being coordinated by people who have done this work in Eastern Europe
before - two people from the Obama administration. Norm Eisen and George Kent are cited
as significant players. Revolver's piece on Eisen (BHO law school buddy - was the "Ethics Czar" in the Obama Administration, if that suggests anything...) here
I'm not a Steve Bannon fan, but in this episode of his War Room Pandemic program he has as his guest Darren Beattie (former Duke University professor) who has researched all this extensively and whose clear explanation of color revolution and how it is playing out in the current situation is well worth catching (from 47:00 of the video):
Someone mentioned they were intending to watch this and see what happens. For one thing, if it's happening it is *already* happening and has been for some time. For another, if the trajectory continues it's quite likely that the country will be in civil war or the next thing to it in a matter of months.
This is being *engineered* by ruthless authoritarians who are not doing this out of a fervent desire to make the world a better and happier place for the rest of us. I'd suggest the situation merits something a little more proactive than hanging around wondering whether they are going to succeed...
your 'revolver' link was a bit
inscrutable to me due to its length and zillion hyperlinks. i'd gone in search of key words: gene sharpe, Otpor!, CANVAS, and CIA/Nato.
but as i remember, he/they loathed 'communists and socialists' like yannno, hugo chavez, maduro, prolly cubanao 'dictators' as well.
but after discarding half a dozen, i've settled on this by Wm. Engdhal, 'The Dishonest Career of the Remarkable Srđa Popović’, jan, 10, 2017
just a bit to entice...or dissuade you):
[huuuuuge snip]
Wikileaks Docs Expose Famed Serbian Activist’s Ties to ‘Shadow CIA’, December 2, 2013, in these times
i was embarrassed to learn all this after lauding him at firedoglake during Occupy via his 'handbook'.
Had not heard of
Popovich/Otpor!/CANVAS and had only the vaguest knowledge of NED and its origins, so again - thanks for the heads up.
On the subject of Serbia - and the rest of former Yugoslavia, this survivor of that civil war has some cautionary words for Americans who would like to avoid a similar disaster:
all sides need to be heard,
don't they? but milosevic died in the hague prison just before he was absolved of war crimes. thanks. yup; she was otpor/CANVAS, i'd rckon.
is the following based
largely on the bannon video, then? even your suggestion of starting at 47 minutes leaves about...and hour and fifteen minutes. in my current brain malformation, i can usually last about 15 mins before i get tummy-wonky vertigo. hope others may be able to watch. cliffs notes?
on edit: i'd forgotten how many time zones away you live. hope you're sleepin' well.
Hi, Wendy
Bannon's guest is Darren Beattie - author and former Duke University prof - watching about ten to fifteen minutes from 47:00 should be plenty to get a handle on what he's talking about.
Basically, the Soros types and the national security and other bureaucracy - working through MSM and social media have contrived to create a situation of extreme insecurity and divisiveness such that there is pretty much guaranteed to be chaos no matter what the actual election result is, providing cover for Trump to be removed even if he actually won and for the Clintons, Clappers, Brennnans, Blackrocks, etc. to get back to the business of running things the way they had gotten accustomed to...
Here's a not-to-longish article from NY Post discussing Beattie's work.
i did listen for a few minutes
just to see the 4 faces and hear the voices, watch them vie for time!!! thanks for the NY post link, but again: this is the sort of rubbish that flips my topnot:
yanukovytch was overthrown because he'd decided that signing the EU association deal would be bad for ukraine. so out, then in? In? the chocolate king, petro poroshenko!
anyhoo, we aren't likely to agree on everything, as i'm one of them goddurned socials! ; )
gotta scoot; waaaaay behind on my chores.
Thanks for the reply, Blue R! Hey, I'm not an "essay
writer," but, go for it (regarding the Color Revolution) it you'd like. You probably know more about it, than I do, anyway. I'll be glad to chime in, if there's anything I can add to the conversation.
BTW, saw that you replied to me about Uruguay--but, couldn't figure out which thread or essay.
If you don't mind, and, remember--did you have a link to the piece you read? Will probably not get to drop back by until Friday 'cause of workshops that I'm helping with, but, would love to read it. OTOH, if it's a hassle, don't worry about it. I plan to call the Embassy, hopefully, this week, or, early next week. Of course, any info we can get our hands on, is helpful, and welcome.
Have a good one, and, be well.
Mollie
"The leaders of this new movement are replacing traditional liberal beliefs about tolerance, free inquiry, and even racial harmony with ideas so toxic and unattractive that they eschew debate, moving straight to shaming, threats, and intimidation."
~~Matt Taibbi, The American Press Is Destroying Itself, June 12, 2020
"I know, I know. All passion; no street smarts."
~~Captain West, 1992 Rob Reiner/Aaron Sorkin Movie, A Few Good Men
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went.”
~~Will Rogers, Actor & Social Commentator (1856-1950)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Hi, Molly
Here's my reply about Uruguay - it was on the Evening Blues 1-20-21
responding to a bit about Argentines heading to Uruguay partly in response to lowered
requirements for an investor-type visa and 10 year tax holiday for investor/immigrants.
"If I had a stray 400 Grand sitting around
I might be off to Uruguay myself. Take some tango lessons..."
Well, if they have stayed open to that extent they are certainly not channelling NZ in their COVID response as New Zealand has one of the most draconian lockdown regimes in the world in place and has set conditions for ending the emergency measures that will probably never be realizable.
Their PM is disturbingly like Oregon governor Kate Brown both in appearance and ideology. Yuck. Enough (well, almost) to put me off my feed...
(also embedded the video below from an anti-lockdown NZ parliament member)
Article was comparing them with New Zealand and mentioned they both had low rates of COVID infection despite Uruguay not having significantly locked down. So, I though it was worth pointing out that that was in contrast to NZ which has severe lockdowns in place and is trying to implement (see video) mandatory vaccination - while claiming that it is not mandatory and attempting to censor dissent, of course...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=Z5rV-laQLYE&feature=emb_...
Not sure if you were also asking about the domestic coup/color revolution thing, but one guy who has been researching and publicizing this is Darren Beattie (former Duke University prof).
Revolver.news has done a number of exclusive reports about the Transition Integrity Project and individuals from the Obama adminstration involved in both the engineered "revolutions" in Eastern Europe and elsewhere who have subsequently been intimately involved in the various efforts to get rid of Trump - here's a link to the second article in their series, about the TIP.
Darren Beattie on Tucker Carlson (9/16/20)
Thank you, Blue R - for both the Uruguay
and Color Revolution info.
Mr M and I qualify by age for a retiree visa/citizenship, and, it costs practically nothing. Guess it's a good thing that Uruguay is inviting new businesses/entrepreneurs into their country. Canada has a similar program, but, they provide some of the financing (for those people they approve).
Regarding the video, I'll definitely watch it tomorrow. It is possible that Beattie is the person I heard mention the white paper (Brookings) - since I normally listen to cable teevee on XM Radio, obviously, I don't see who's talking. (it wasn't Bannon, I'm sure)
I tend to check out much of what I read and hear. Whoever Carlson was interviewed that evening, I didn't recognize their name. At any rate, the Dude was correct--such a white paper does exist on the Brookings website. Although I didn't read every word--scanned it, especially the sections that most interested me--I have to say, the person gave a decently accurate description of what it calls for. I'll probably know if it was him, once I watch the video.
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
You live somewhere in Japan, right?
Seems like you have no real idea about New Zealand. While Billy Te Kahika expresses some truth, it can’t be denied that he is taking advantage politically, in whatever devious means he can, to acquire votes in the election that will be held in 3 weeks. His running mate is Jami-Lee Ross ...
I could drop more disgust on the two, but it would be a waste of time.
No, I do am not
Very familiar with NZ politics down to the level of individual politicians.
The basic thrust of my comment, though, was to point out that although the EB piece about Uruguay/Argentina cited similarities between Uruguay and NZ, including their low death tolls from COVID-19, and although it mentioned that there had been no real shutdown of the economy in Uruguay, it *failed* to mention NZ's draconian response.
Which, as in other "woke" jurisdictions such as New York or Victoria, Australia is being sold as a necessary, scientifically sound response to the COVID "emergency". BUT the experience of Uruguay, Japan, Sweden - not to mention the opinion of quite a few epidemiologists very much calls that into question.
And very much calls into question the motives of those pushing for never-ending emergency measures, ever-enhanced surveillance, mandatory vaccines (but no liability for the makers) all in the guise of protecting us...
Do Jacinda Ardern and her crowd think there is any place for people like this in their society? I doubt it.
I rather suspect --
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
worth a thousand
laughs, chortles, guffaws, and spit-takes, cass.
tom carter's up with
his take on the canaonizations of ginsberg as per the liberal D media at wsws.org this morning. it's long, and he does note her better decisions, etc., but i'm kinda more interested in her pro-police ones, as per the tweet i'd put in.
but a few graphs and an earlier 2014 link as to 'qualified immunity' that affected other such later cases:
his brief narrative of her deep friendship with 'arch-reactionary and bigot' antonin scalia
is pretty funny altogether.
From 2014 but still very much relevant
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
As we have seen with Russiagate, the entire Five Eyes “intelligence community” with all their media friends and tools have no qualms about targeting anyone, all the way up to a sitting president of the United States, with a full-court-press public disinformation campaign with the aim of discrediting and undermining them.
It looks like we are being pushed into a civil war
My last vote in a Presidential election was 2012 when I was down to exactly one issue that I cared about and had any hope at all that Obama would deliver on it -- the Supreme Court. When he folded up like a dishrag, again, I turned to Bernie Sanders, who had a damned impressive run before also folding up like a dishrag.
A friend and I were talking about how the rhetoric about the upcoming vote count was even more virulent than it was in 2016 -- when both parties accused each other of trying to steal the election before a single vote was cast. Once Trump took office, the Dems had legitimate reasons to raise hell about Trump, and ignored them all. Instead they continued with their loud but affectless accusation that he did not win, but was installed because Russia tricked enough voters into voting Trump, by telling the truth about what the Democrats were saying to each other about fixing the primary for Hillary.
You could not devise a better way to rev up the blue team while pissing off the red team. At its heart, the Russiagate Story turns on the assertion that Trump voters are too stupid to understand that the truth about the Democrats should not be considered a factor in their voting decision. The Blue Team never explains why it should not be a factor -- but you are a piece of shit if you don't embrace that assumption because Russia. And Putin. Invoke either of those words, and all thought is supposed to stop and be replaced by fear and loathing. Just like Orwell predicted.
For four years, the Russiagate accusation has been "debunked" beyond hope and caring, yet it continues to bounce around the MSM even now.
Meanwhile, the Republicans HAVE been stealing elections at least since Shrub was jammed down the country's throat twice. Voter suppression is pretty much the GOP's overt policy. And let us not forget the Trump campaign in 2016 with its theme of Lock Her Up. His constituency is mainly the old Tea Party, which was the even older Religious Right, a group of boobs who have been manipulated for the last three decades by bullshit from Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and the creepy gaggle of preacher-political cheerleaders in the mold of Pat Robertson.
Within the world of Trump supporters, wacky conspiracy theories have been percolating for decades, starting with Whitewater and Slick, Hillary and Bengazi, Obama and his birth certificate. Like I said, boobs. But this constituency is now looking at truly biblical catastrophe while continuing to simmer with their own variety of hate for "liberals." And of course many of these citizens are overt racists who see how corporate America has now embraced Black Lives Matter, in spite of the rioting that accompanied most of the protests of police shooting this weird summer in America.
The Tea Party/MAGA parts of cyvberspace are full of conspiracy theories that are just as jarring as the Democratic theory of Russian "interference" in "our" election. Supposedly the goal is to reduce the world's population from 7 billion to 1 billion. Supposedly the Democratic Party will turn its irregular militia (antifa) loose on suburbia to establish a reign of terror. Many harbor what I consider the silliest idea of all -- that there is a plot to "get" Trump.
(I do not believe that last one because if you have the wherewithal to arrange this civilizational suicide, you don't need to worry about politicians. If getting Trump were really the goal of all this massive dislocation and misery, he would be dead or in prison now.)
But with nothing normal, and all of our national "leadership" telling a mutually apocalyptic story of impending conflict over who legitimately holds power, which ever tribe "loses" the "vote" on election night will not believe it. Instead of anybody in authority urging a lowering of voices or appealing for some sort of common ground, the zeitgeist is full of mutual condemnation.
I refuse to take sides in this concocted "confrontation" which cannot be resolved within the four corners of The Constitution. Only one thing can keep this from blowing up -- one side or the other pulling away in the "polls" and then winning the "election" in a landslide.
That is the probable outcome, unless we are living through a conspiracy (not a theory) that includes the leadership of both parties, driving toward some mysterious end. I think they have been conspiring with each other for 20 years, giving us war forever, bankster rule, and steadfast refusal to do anything about climate change.
Most of us obsess on the personalities and symbolic issues that Trump and Obama provoke. We are now moving dangerously close to an actual shooting war against ourselves due to those symbols.
Maybe that is the goal. If not, we are run by a bunch of morons.
Take your pick.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
now patrick martin has his finger on the pulse,
and good on him! ‘Supreme Court fight deepens political crisis surrounding US elections’, 21 September 2020 this may be about a third of it:
Florida factor
Not all conservatives are thrilled with Barrett, consider this from
attorney (ad frequent Infowars guest and guest host) Robert Barnes*
source
OTOH - If Trump were to nominate Lagoa it could give him a boost with Latinos especially in Florida where she is from. It might well help him even (especially?) if the Democrats try to block her nomination or a vote on it.
Without Florida very few ways for Trump to win. With it, however...