nbc is live-blogging the democratic natl. convention, or:
or 'A PSA of Dubious Value'. It's not likely by way of a Drinking Game.
according to abc news: Michelle Ma Belle has gone full-Afro: Black Lives Matter?
Here's the nbc liveblog, and it does contain some true (if hilariously 'too late now' jewels, such as this section:
Dems' hunger to break the old political system grows ahead of election
...but also this section on 'Plan Your Vote
...is a new, interactive tool from NBC News and MSNBC, which encourages Americans to plan when and how they will vote, taking into account each state’s coronavirus pandemic restrictions, mail-in ballot rules, early in-person voting and more.
This comprehensive, state-by-state guide includes the most up-to-date information for voters across the country. It's everything you need to know about casting a ballot in the 2020 election, wherever you live. And we'll be updating it as rules change — which could happen right up until Election Day.
"NBC News will air a special report from 10 to 11 p.m. ET each night, and MSNBC will have convention coverage from 7 p.m. to 2 a.m., with special coverage beginning at 9 p.m. NBC News Now will livestream the convention each day, with special coverage starting at 8 p.m. And follow us here on NBCNews.com for breaking news, analysis and fact checks."

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They go high
Noses in the air. Screw the hoi-polloi.
hoi palloi? puh-leeeze!
Democrats tap an array of faith leaders to speak at convention or:hit every base hard.
They have emcee's?
I would have thought dj's.
It's a hard row to hoi.
the salt of the earth,
i tell ya! and yeppers, they went full kinte cloth to show us!
There's something happening here
I read that Stills reprised the song for the donorcrats. Oh well. We all get old. At least he's not a stockbroker (I hope).
xrist, I had a better 'fro than that way back, and I'm White(TM). I didn't pay a hairdresser, tho.
double grin.
Thanks
for the warning but I think I have toe nails to pick and nose hairs to clip.
Nah. I'll skip the hair clipping so as to hopefully block out the smell that emanates from such gatherings.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
DNC convention? HA!
Demopub? DemoRep? RepubliCrat?
New added speakers: Former NJ Governor Christine Todd Whitman (R)
Former NY Congressperson Susan Molinari (R)
Meg Whitman, CA (R)
Plus Bloomberg and Kasich.
Bernie is alotted 8 minutes and AOC 60 seconds.
IDK what this is but it is not the future I want. Oligarchy united. Progressives excluded.
NYCVG
I asked my love is she wanted to see the Repub convention
"I thought it was the Democrats" she said. But then, upon reflection, she agreed.
This year, more than ever, they've brazenly frozen us out.
The takeover of the Dems has begun!
Vote purple no matter who, just doesn’t have the same ring, does it?
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Yeah...
erm, no thanks.
Off for a bike ride. These clowns are best ignored.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Maybe this will speed up the demise
of quadrennial political party conventions. As the purpose of these affairs became less over time, they also became boring, pre-scripted exercises of no value.
I just thought something inappropriate
the conventions were lively things when the nomination wasn't locked up and the nomination wasn't locked up in those days because the DNC didn't control the outcome.
The mellow version of what I thought is "I hope the people who run the Democratic Party retire". Just between us, though, I thought something more drastic.
They were lively when almost all the
1968 for the Democratic Party was (approximately) half old-school and half 'democratic' (delegates representing the results primary elections). That was a total ruckus in the convention hall and a police riot in the streets. So, Democrats got reform, primaries or caucuses in all states. There was a presumed nominee going into the convention. The old-school didn't like the results at all. And after two of those election cycles, they added the superdelegates that could override all those pesky primary voters. (And a number of those were needed by Mondale in 1984.)
Still the presumptive nominees held off on naming the VP until the convention. So, that left some surprise during the convention. Dukakis ended that tradition.
From '88 through '04 the power was with the superdelegates, but the DNC was slowly gaining more power. Primary elections became window dressing. Then something weird happened in '08. AA voters bolted from HRC and dragged previously committed AA HRC superdelegates with them. The front-loading of southern states in the primary process put HRC on the ropes, but still she persevered for months and months.
The concession that Sanders got at the '16 convention -- beginning in '20, SDs can't vote on the first ballot -- no longer mattered because after 2008, the DNC assumed the power and SDs can keep their powder dry.
IOW -- for the illusion of voter choice in Democratic Presidential nominations (real only for one and possibly two election cycles), we gave up lively national conventions. Those were at least entertaining for the public and we had no illusions that we mattered.
“He is not the favorite son of any one state —
he is the favorite son of (pounds podium) fifty states! Adlai Stevenson of Illinois!”
Followed by almost a half hour of bedlam at the 1960 DNC, with people chanting “We want Stevenson!” and the chairman futilely gavelling for order, muttering into the microphone that “This demonstration has got to stop.”
Of course no one really wanted to nominate Stevenson a third time — it was just theater. But heartwarming emotional theater in honor of an intelligent and decent man who had answered his party’s call and flown two kamikaze missions against Eisenhower.
Very nice!
omigod, this is awful
are any of you watching? eeeeee...making me cringe.
@Shahryar I tried. But failed.
No policies.
All platitudes and Hollywood dreck.
Time for something on Netflix.
NYCVG
Well, if you're going to watch fiction
it should be good fiction. I recommend The Witcher.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
well i'm out for the night.
i'd brought it mainly for the 'your state by state guide to voting by email' and the self-parody of the liveblog. glad to know that this year you may mean what you say about finally #DemExiting.
I'll be sure not to watch.
Tell me, though, how far to the right Joe goes. Next year in Caracas?
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
grin. or next year in
La Paz?
Shahyar, I have it on the tv.
I am just making fun of it all.
Must go take a shower.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
but but the baloons !!
send in the clowns bozo and bezos
I wanna see the bufoons
the all american red white and blue bufoons
tied by strings attached to their dopplganger donors
stealing music from sprinstein
oh the pomp and circumvent!
dancing elephants!
fire breathing trapeze progressives!
men shot up by canons!
something for everyone !!
[video:https://youtu.be/tBu-ewMRhkA]
question everything
Thank you.
I've never viewed that version of Murray Head.
Slightly fast but very much chessboard.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Bah. I'd sooner clean out the catbox.
At least that gets rid of some mess and stink!
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Didn't even know tonight was the night.
But really happy I got to watch One Night In Bangkok video.
I'd completely forgotten that song.
Oh yeah, the convention: meh.
i hadn't remembered,
either, but i'd been bingling for a thing i'd seen at Newsmax or somewhere about amy the klobuchar having introduced a Vote by Mail bill. turns out it was in march, but the first hit was the NBC news vote by mail state by state rules, so...
i clicked into our email provider just now (msn) and the homepage had '6 takeaways from Night One', tra la la. michelle ma belle spoke for 19 minutes, and the portions they quoted about 'we go high, they go low', and her explanation of 'we go for the cold hard truth'...almost made me want to vote for trump./s
this is obscene: relatives of both george floyd and eric garner spoke on behalf of biden (and i assume KopMala (h/t aliasalias)...about the urgency of police reform. iirc, amy the klobuchar will speak, even though her dirty paws were all over george's and others' assassinations by The Po-po. they got some huevos, i'll say that.
and four! count em: four! republican bigwigs spoke for the duo! bernie love was strong, apparently. existential because: trump. now it may be true that it's on him that a reported 170000 amerikans have died of covid-19, but they brought speakers in for a number of them, including a child named skylar.
the musical theme of the night was bruce springstein's the rising. would he have agreed beforehand? beats.me.
I tuned in here and there....
There was a disgusting (according to the NPR people "courageous") video of a young woman who claims her father died of Covid because he listened to Trump and didn't take the virus seriously. He went out to a bar with friends in FL. Of course her father had no responsibility to think for himself...he was just a Trump zombie. I thought blaming Trump for his death was beyond the pale.
I watched Bernie's speech .... don't exact know what to say. It was half how absolutely evil Trump is and half how Joe is going to fix of all this with his great (compromised) policies. I was beyond sad to see him this way.
And Michelle said, "the Presidency doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are." I said out loud, "you betcha honey, and your husband revealed a lot that I would rather have never seen!"
She's a mess!
Not tuning in anymore. It's an obscene infomercial designed to hide and obscure the truth about Joe Biden. And Judy Woodruff (whose husband Al Hunt wrote an over the rainbow fluff piece on Biden) gushed and gushed about this farce, basically enabling the dems to lie to us. Talk about dangerous to democracy! This fusion of media and political party is what is going to kill this country...um along with the health system lobbyists.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I had lots of fun last night on the Twit trolling Michelle
Almost everything she accused Trump of doing just highlighted how her husband did the same things during his 8 year squat in the Oval Office when after he accomplished his goal of becoming president he just preened and lectured us on how presidenting is hard. Boo Hoo.
I asked Michelle how this gobbly gooked comment offered us any idea of how Biden's presidency would pull us out of the economic dive we are in. How it was going to bring back the millions of jobs that are not coming back...ect.
link
end the chaos and division—and keep alive the possibility of progress on the issues we hold dear—we’ve got to vote for Biden. What progress on which issues are in danger of going away Michelle? Possibility is a tad like access isn't it? We can have the possibility of universal health care through access to the ACA? I have the possibility of buying a corvette except that I don't have access to the money needed to buy it nor do I see that happening any time in the future.
Michelle's speech apparently drove people to outright weeping with tears running down their faces. Well that's nice. But it was just more claptrap for the masses that will do nothing for the millions who are on the brink of losing everything they own after the government shut down the country and didn't plan on meeting long term financial help for us.
Screw your plea for unity Michelle and democrats. It's as empty as the 8 years of Obama. One other thing I kept pointing out was if democrats thought it was too dangerous to hold the convention in public then how in the hell is it safe to send kids back to underfunded schools so that parents have a way to return to work during a pandemic? Chuck said if we don't then we are responsible for the economy not returning to normal. F you Chuck. We refuse to be Capital Stock for the 1%.
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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
The biggest insurance and big pharma group were going
to run ads against the Public Option that Biden has insisted is better than universal health care. Guess they didn't have to do that since Biden and the dems have backed off on that plan and are just going to strengthen the flawed ACA that leaves millions without access to health care. Bernie said that he was staying in the race so that he could persuade Biden to pick a few of his issues. Well Biden and the delegates said screw you Bernie and your supporters. We will not concede on any issues that we don't feel are in our donor's best interest. They run the country and you guys know it and there is nothing you can do about it. Vote for us anyway because Trump is bad and besides you have nowhere else to go.
Wanna bet?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
The common ground of emotionally
No politician (or rock star or preacher) is worthy of that much emotional investment from their fans. The Trumpsters and Obamacrats are equally stunted.
So Michelle wants some "cold hard truth"?
I don't think so.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I had to unblock Michelle Obama to read it
Snoop I tried to find your comments but there are many others using the snoopydawg name but with numbers.
thanks for all of this
i guess/s. but this, OMG:
guess she couldn't quite channel mlk, jr. far enuff to add:
'I may not make it the mountain top with you...'
"Y'all can meet me at the top of the mountain"
Oh Michelle didn't you know 'Mericans are lazy and will not take the harder path to the top of the mountain, but will cut the path shorter if they can? Good grief what does that even mean?
Collin Powell who lied us into war in Iraq was a speaker at the DNC shitfest last night. Keewrist just how low are dems going to go to show that they don't give a rat's ass about those further left? Or in truth what dems used to stand for? Clinton's sellout to the Koch brothers is complete after this convention.
Oh for gawd's sake listen to Kerry saying that our troops can't continue hiding in the White House bunker. WTF John? So far Trump has been at least giving lip service to bringing the troops home and he has not sent them into another bogus war like Biden/MyBoss did. 3 times.
Listen to the others who................I can't finish this cuz it's disgusting and depressing that the dems are openly shitting on what's left of their party. The republicans they featured says so much about them. How anyone can take part in this farce of voting is just so damned mind boggling. Democrats twice rigged their primary to get the person people least wanted at the top of their ticket. You going reward them with your vote just because Trump's bad?
Collin Effing Powell who has the blood of millions on his hands? That Collin Powell should be too embarrassed to show his face in public again and yet there he was. Listen to his hogwash.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Colin Powell, then
Ke-rist: madeleine albright must have felt dissed! i remember ilhan omar kissing her ring on twitter...ran into some fun stuff on the convention by ajamu baracka, iirc he's simply @ajamubaracka; what a peach he is!
might have time to watch the video later; thanks.
'michelle obomba:
not as cringe-worthy as the others'. forget spit-takes, at my age, thank the gods for inventing panty liners! Kotex U! Kotex U! i want the pennant! : ) thanks, it think.
the berne: nero fiddled while rome burned (like trump)! so does trump: #aSsholery.
Obscene and factually suspect, IMO
Exploiting dead people, who can no longer speak for themselves, is almost always unseemly. The daughter's claim that her father's only preexisting condition was believing Trump is false. WRT cornonavirus, he had two obvious preexisting conditions: 1) age 65 and 2) obese. While it was stupid for such a man to go to a karaoke bar in late May, he may not even have contracted the virus there considering that it was more than eleven days (near the outer limit from infection to illness before he felt ill and sought medical attention. He was tested that day and got his positive results the next day (fast turnaround compared to most that are tested). Then he went home -- apparently without any medical guidance. Five days later he went to the ER, only placed in ICU several days later, and died four days after being in ICU. Unknown is if he infected anyone else (his SO tested positive w/o symptoms, but she could have passed it onto him).
There's no valid excuse for the Trump admins pathetic handling of the epidemic, but there's also no evidence that a D POTUS would have done all that much better.
Thanks for all the informational details.
I would be willing to bet that if this man had made it through, he would still have voted for Trump.
This whole farce is intended to add wood the pile at the feet of Donald Trump while the mobs scream to burn him. I think the Dems should be called out for promoting this girl's tale and using her politically.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Both sides pull these disgusting stunts.
Completely impossible
for me to watch that 'convention'.
I can handle this and it is apropos to boot:
lol;
'Waterloo' nailed it!
Best thing
'some of us', perhaps. ; )
i #DemExited long ago. got in some major trouble long ago at the FDL readers diaries for publishing 'I've been van Jonesed and DemocRatted'...etc': ha! found it: June 18, 2012, lol.
looks like the rest of the title was: ProgressiveCauCussed and LibrulFatcatted Till I’m Blind. yeah, they suspended it, had a caucus with miz jane hamsher, later allowed it back in.
first paragraph's funny even now:
well, you can hear the S & G tune that accompanies it.
but yes, in this crazy contest: Waterloo!
the show that never ends
welcome back my friends
when did politics become entertainment?
musta mist it somewhere along the way...
question everything
thought this would be a good place to slip this in
https://skepticlawyer.com.au/2020/07/01/the-toll-in-black-lives-is-why-t...
I saw something on https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/ about the #BlackLivesMatter organization sacking a guy who criticized Kamala Harris on Twitter and insisting that she is "a black queen" (whatever the hell that means, might want to double-check Burke's Peerage), but the post is now too far down my search engine frigging broke down after I'd scrolled down too far trying to find it again.
Anyway, here's a Creamsicle for dessert:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/ibp1nz/goddamn_he_just_fu...
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
"Black Queen" makes me think of the Wild Cards series
in which "to draw the Black Queen" means to die, usually horribly, of the alien virus.
Maybe somebody needs to rethink their messaging?
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
zounds; given the comments, i'm glad i put this up,
and it seems to be more than 'a PSA of dubious value'. i'll have to come back and read some of snoop's and others' after i fashioning the loaves for their final proofing.
today's 3-loaves-of-bread day, and another day of mis-fires by appliances, etc. but i did get a rest, and peeked into wsws and found:
‘Democratic convention opens with appeal to right-wing Republican support’, Patrick Martin, 18 August 2020, wsws.org
a few bits and bobs:
Michelle Obama, the final speaker of the evening, was extravagantly praised for her address, which was devoted to a purely personal denunciation of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic as incapable, incompetent and indifferent. This is not a hard case to make, but in comparing Trump unfavorably to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, she avoided the central question—thrown back at her by Trump in a tweet the next morning—if the record of the Obama administration was so wonderful, how did Trump get elected in the first place.
holy hell, i hadn't heard she'd spoken last night!