From the same people who think that M4A is a Purity Pony

Where will the IdPol people stop? Because at some point you must acknowledge nuance.
At some point you must recognize that no one is perfect.
Yesterday the Sierra Club denounced John Muir.

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The most monumental figure in the Sierra Club’s past is John Muir. Beloved by many of our members, his writings taught generations of people to see the sacredness of nature. But Muir maintained friendships with people like Henry Fairfield Osborn, who worked for both the conservation of nature and the conservation of the white race. Head of the New York Zoological Society and the board of trustees of the American Museum of Natural History, Osborn also helped found the American Eugenics Society in the years after Muir’s death.

And Muir was not immune to the racism peddled by many in the early conservation movement. He made derogatory comments about Black people and Indigenous peoples that drew on deeply harmful racist stereotypes, though his views evolved later in his life.

Earlier this week Planned Parenthood denounced Margaret Sanger.

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Planned Parenthood of Greater New York will remove the name of the national organization’s founder, Margaret Sanger, from a Manhattan clinic in an attempt to reckon with her ties to the eugenics movement, the organization announced Tuesday.

An early feminist activist, Sanger is widely regarded as a pioneer in American reproductive rights. She opened the first birth control clinic in the United States more than a century ago, and helped create access to birth control for low-income, minority and immigrant women. But she was also a vocal supporter of the now-discredited eugenics movement, which aimed to improve the human race through planned breeding based on genetic traits

WTF!
I have no problem with an organization coming out and saying "the person who founded our organization was flawed, but look at all the good he/she did."
But to denounce and distance the organization from the person who single-handedly created the organization? You may as well just close the doors and send everyone home, you cowards.

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Lily O Lady's picture

died. Sanger is no Hillary Clinton who stood by her man and should be president, RIGHT NOW, DAMMIT!

Yeah, I hear you gjohnsit. The whole thing is capricious and politically motivated.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

it's not just conservatives

A new Cato Institute/​YouGov national survey of 2,000 Americans finds that 62% of Americans say the political climate these days prevents them from saying things they believe because others might find them offensive. This is up from 2017 when 58% agreed with this statement. Majorities of Democrats (52%), independents (59%) and Republicans (77%) all agree they have political opinions they are afraid to share.­­
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Although strong liberals are the only group who feel they can say what they believe, the share who feel pressured to self‐​censor rose 12 points from 30% in 2017 to 42% in 2020. The share of moderates who self‐​censor increased 7 points from 57% to 64%, and the share of conservatives rose 70% to 77%, also a 7‐​point increase. Strong conservatives are the only group with little change. They are about as likely now (77%) to say they hold back their views as in 2017 (76%).

Self‐​censorship is widespread across demographic groups as well. Nearly two‐​thirds of Latino Americans (65%) and White Americans (64%) and nearly half of African Americans (49%) have political views they are afraid to share. Majorities of men (65%) and women (59%), people with incomes over $100,000 (60%) and people with incomes less than $20,000 (58%), people under 35 (55%) and over 65 (66%), religious (71%) and non‐​religious (56%) all agree that the political climate prevents them from expressing their true beliefs.

Congrats IdPol SJW. You've managed to create a society where no one can speak their minds. Even strong liberals are afraid. No one can relax around strangers or coworkers. A society without humor. A society where racism and sexism will never and can never be overcome because there cannot be any honest debate.

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Victory!

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@gjohnsit

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

Bollox Ref's picture

Denunciations of all and sundry in a locale near you.

Fun for all the family. Guess who will fall next and receive a prize of your choosing, should you be correct.....

(Brought to you by IdPol Productions Inc., an Iconoclast Company)

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

to think that, maybe, conflict in the US is -- though based on real grounds -- increased, exaggerated and manipulated by the 1%, then I'd have to ask: The evidence?

Perhaps the fruit is itself the proof. You have to figure a real portion of the members of the institutions concerned are roundly pissed. The method of despots forever: divide and subjugate.

At the same time, the imaginary effort to correct injustice focuses on relatively meaningless symbols, while the 1% go unmentioned and their agit/prop narrative machine (traditional and social media) remains intact and unchallenged.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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From NPR of all places...

Why Now, White People?

"[O]ne motivating factor that I am not proud of but that I have recognized as relevant — in my personal circle, a larger number of white people are speaking up, and unconsciously I think that makes it feel safer and more important to care," one person wrote. "I recognize that this is ... highly problematic ... [b]ut I wouldn't be telling the truth if I didn't recognize this as a layer of this moment for me."

Another person echoed that idea. "From what I noticed in my own feeds, in the past it was conspicuous to be speaking out about BLM as a white person," they wrote. "Now it feels conspicuous to NOT be sharing a post, linking to places to donate, etc. [A repeated] claim I'm seeing from white friends is 'notice who of your friends is not posting right now.' "

But this wave of anti-racist signaling didn't just create pressure from white peers — it also created permission. "It became inappropriate to be silent, and seemed like there would be less social [repercussions] from being that white girl who is always talking about race and equality," a person wrote. "Which is extremely uncomfortable and embarrassing to admit."

What people didn't say was also illuminating. Few people who responded to me said that they had become activated because of social proximity to black people — which isn't surprising, given how few white people have nonwhite friends.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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@Not Henry Kissinger

...are starting to discover what it was like to be a German Citizen during World War II.

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@Pluto's Republic
how many of them appear to be enjoying it.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger
First of all, if they were there when Jesus said "let he who's without sin cast the first stone", they would've taken that as a go-ahead signal. There's a lack of humility.
Secondly, there's the fact that they never accomplish anything tangible. It's all about symbolic acts. Which is the problem.
It's all about symbolic acts because it's all about them. They don't really care about the things they profess to care about. Their objective is to appear that they care. it's all navelgazing.
If they really wanted to cure systemic racism then they would be pushing Medicare for all and fully funding public schools in poor neighborhoods.
Instead we have pulling down statues and getting people fired.

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@gjohnsit

as well as economical racism. Instead of throwing more cops into poor Chicago neighborhoods they should throw money. This goes for every neighborhood that has high crime and low wages. This is a no brainer but then they couldn’t control people as well or keep their prisons fully stocked.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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Humanity will likely separate into those who can afford to be augmented through technology implants and gene editing and those who cannot.

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earthling1's picture

the greed gene the world would thrive.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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It's gotten SO bad...that IT MAKES LOUIE FUCKING GOHMERT LOOK CLEVER:

https://www.kltv.com/2020/07/23/rep-gohmert-calls-congress-ban-democrats...

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

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@The Liberal Moonbat

You've got to admit that Loonie Louie has scored on this stunt. I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read what he did.

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@travelerxxx I can't believe I'm borderline-cheering for "America's Dumbest Congressman" (not anymore, I guess); I'm hoping against hope this can actually be a tide-turner.

It makes me beyond livid; all that work, suffering and sacrifice, for decades, to become the side of reason and facts...and then these utter shitstains show up out of nowhere like George of the Jungle and RUIN EVERYTHING!!! I just wish we could sentence them to the Total-Perspective Vortex; no punishment could be more fitting, more just, or more agonizing.

I was taught that there are supposedly 3 forms of argument: Ethos (appeal to morality), Logos (appeal to reason), and Pathos (appeal to emotion); what we've seen here is a Mexican standoff in which Pathos has managed to weaponize Ethos against Logos. We need to do what we should have done a long time ago, and turn the Ethos-cannon around against Pathos.

It should not be hard to do: You do not have the right to be irrational. Irrationality gets people killed and things of value destroyed. The entire idea of human rights rests upon the assumption that people are basically rational - if that does not hold, then they cannot and should not have rights. Those who willingly choose to surrender to their emotions should be considered the lowest of the low; there should be no more shameful behavior.

Were it truly necessary, I would kill to defend the Enlightenment. The human species is in no way more deserving or valuable than any other complex life-form save for the potential for great intelligence, and the willfully irrational are worth nothing to me.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

Nothing changes for the pawns of course.

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John Muir is a hero to me. He should be to all conservationists. I should hope not to be judged by every belief of every person I ever associated with. But rather by my actions. In particular as a rather science oriented person, of course he dealt with museums regarding his findings, observations, and discoveries. Have you ever dealt with museum people? I have lots. They are weird. Everyone doing that did so in those days. It was the only way to identify anything before there were field guides. What does what one of them, a museum worker, thought at one time have to do with everything and anything John Muir did? He founded the Sierra Club. He saved Yosemite valley from being a lake. He was incredibly influential to many, from Ansel Adams to especially Teddy Roosevelt, long considered to be the President that was the father of the modern conservation movement by starting the national park system.

I read everything Muir wrote as a kid, had the bookmobile get more Muir. He was a brilliant genius. He couldn't see the clock from the fields he worked so hand carved one out of hickory 6' tall and put it on the barn so he could see it from afar. It kept perfect time allegedly forever. He built a contraption that used the rising sun to burn a thread which led one thing to another eventually resulting in his bed turning 90 degrees and flinging him out of it at dawn, in one of the original Rube-Goldberg devices, decades before there was such a thing. Which he said was a problem if he was not on his back. When he lived in Yosemite valley he dug a channel from the Merced River over to and THROUGH his cabin so the frogs would populate and he could hear them at night. He caught a trout once in this channel, in his cabin without going outside. He tied himself up into a small twisted pine on top of maybe Half-dome or North-dome during a Sierra thunderstorm, to see what it was like. We were lucky to get any material to read after that event. You really wouldn't want to get me started on this... Wink

What a great man, what a great inspiration to me, a true hero.

The people cancelling this legacy know not what they do, they are sheeple.

I would not recommend getting my wife started on Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger. Smile

Thanks for bringing it up gj!

sorry to go off like that...

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein