Friday Open Thread ~ "What are you reading?" edition.
BY IAN STANSEL:stirring narrative of hostility, pursuit, and the desire for vengeance
RELEASE DATE: JULY 4, 2017
A contemporary tale of two brothers, both horse trainers and rivals, and the tragedy that ensues when one kills the other.Silas and Frank Van Loy have a complicated relationship. They’re both a bit wild, a bit co-dependent, and more than a bit antagonistic toward each other. The novel opens immediately after Silas, the younger brother, has shot and killed Frank. He flees on horseback, for him a natural mode of transportation, over the landscape of Marin County in northern California. At least two issues complicate the psychology, the ethics, and the logistics of this fraternal relationship and murder. First, Frank was married to Lena, who hates Silas. When she finds out what happened, she takes off in pursuit, also on horseback, with the intent to kill him. Second, when we finally see Frank and Silas' final confrontation, toward the end of the book, the shooting turns out to have been less vengeful than it seemed. The narrative moves briskly on a number of levels. While we follow Lena’s pursuit of Silas, we also get generous flashbacks into the brothers’ lives, especially their rivalry in the world of horse training (Silas’ career was thriving while Frank’s was declining) and the almost unaccountable depth of their hatred (earlier Frank had shot Silas, and on the surface, their argument had been about a Stetson hat). Stansel writes well and moves effortlessly from past to present and from the perspectives of Silas and Frank to that of Lena.
SHELF UNBOUND interviews the author
SU: How did you come to the idea of writing a Western?
Ian Stansel: It was a bit accidental, I think. I set out to write about the contemporary equestrian world, which I’d written about a bit before in my first book. I had the idea of feuding brothers—an idea that in one form or another came from my sister, who taught horse riding her whole life. The initial situation of one brother having gunned down the other happened rather quickly, as I remember. But even though I was writing a chase-on-horseback book, it didn’t really occur to me that it was a sort of Western until I was at least a few chapters in. As soon as I had that realization, though, the book took off. So much of the fun of the book was finding moments for the full Western-ness of it to rise to the surface.
SU: You take the reins from Larry McMurtry, Annie Proulx’ Westerns, and Cormac McCarthy and bring the genre forward in a manner that feels both classic and modern. Were you influenced in particular by any earlier authors of Westerns?
Stansel: I love all of the authors you mention. I was also influenced by Charles Portis’s True Grit and Patrick DeWitt’s The Sisters Brothers, as well as Paulette Jiles’s News of the World (which I read after I’d finished the initial composing of the book). As far as the earlier Western writers, I certainly know the work of Louis L’Amour, and obviously he had fun with a chase or two. But when I’m asked this question I feel the need to point out some of the authors who directly influenced the book who have nothing to do with the Western genre. I thought a lot about James Salter’s Light Years and how that book moves between present action and backstory. I also thought about The Great Gatsby, particularly the idea of a person (in the case of my book, two people—the brothers) reinventing themselves. There’s something so wonderfully American about that notion, and I thought it worked well within the Western genre.
SU: The widow Lena and her stable hand Rain, who joins her on the trek, are as integral in this story as the two men. Were you consciously wanting to bring out this female element or did that just happen?
Stansel: Both, really. It just happened, yes, but when I saw those female characters come alive on the page I made a conscious effort to allow them and their relationship to develop. I realized fairly early on in the composition process that I could do something a bit different by having a couple of strong independent women riding across the wilds of California. Of course there are plenty of women in Westerns, but a lot of the time (not all, but a lot) they are dependent on men to help them in their cause. Think of Mattie Ross in True Grit. Of course my book does not take place in the 1880s. It takes place now, and that makes a huge difference. But I did want the two main female characters to be completely capable, never in need of rescuing, at least not by a man. There are a couple other moments in the book when women help each other. This was something I wanted to have happening in the background of the book. In the foreground you have these two brothers dead set on destroying each other, all blustering and violent. Meanwhile, far more quietly, you have women, often strangers, going out of their way to help one another for no other reason than it is the right thing to do in the moment.
SU: On the run, Silas ends up spending the night at a ranch owned by two lesbians and a bi-sexual man, and despite being warmly welcomed by them (until they see a news report and learn his identity) he leaves with a vicious tirade against them. How did this part of the novel come about?
Stansel: I’m actually surprised I haven’t been asked about this more often. It is the moment I struggled with more than any other. This is when we see Silas at his worst. All his worst instincts come rushing out in, as you say, a nasty and completely unwarranted tirade against people who’ve been nothing but welcoming to him. He uses at least one particularly awful homophobic slur, but the whole message of his dialogue there is that they are not as legitimate or American as he is. The thing is, I don’t believe Silas actually thinks these things. Or at least not most of him (obviously it is in him in some ways, or it wouldn’t have come out). What I was trying to show is how a person, when he feels cornered or threatened will lash out at anyone or anything nearby with whatever weapons he can come up with. He is mad about his situation in general, and he is mad at having been caught, and though he knows everything going on is due to choices he has made, in the moment, he attacks and tries to blame this woman and her family.
The other thing this moment does is provide a stepping stone in Silas’s violence. Not too long after this, he is physically violent against another set of relatively innocent people. I felt I needed the verbal/psychological abuse to come first, as going straight to the physical violence would have felt like too much of a jump. But with the two scenes we see a pattern emerging. We see a progression.
I remember emailing my editor about the scene with the homophobic slur and asking if she thought we should cut it. I knew it made sense on a character level, but I also imagined people reading it and feeling like the book was attacking them, that the book was condoning such views and such language. I hope it is clear to readers that this is not the case, or at least it was never meant to condone such thinking. In the end we decided that the scene was important to the character and so we kept it. Even though I know it is true to the character and the story, I do feel uneasy about it. But that’s probably a good thing.
SU: Do you think you will write another Western?
Stansel: My next project won’t be, and maybe not the next. But I could see myself revisiting the genre in the not-too-distant future. I’d need to have the right story, of course, and the right idea for something to do with the genre. I’m a bit restless by nature, and want to do many very different things writing-wise. But I do love horses and I love the West, so it is probably just a matter of time.
SU: You teach Creative Writing at the University of Louisville. What lessons or skills do you most try to impart to your students?
Stansel: It’s easy in a creative writing workshop to get caught up in the technicalities of the craft. And I spend a lot of time on those technicalities. But every once in a while I like to take a moment to remind them of what all that talk is for: to learn to tell good stories.
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Exploring Literature
Being a 65 years young resident of Jefferson county allows me the privilege of taking classes at the University of Louisville cost free. I just completed an online seminar where we read and discussed LAST COWBOYS. The story reminded me of the Marty Robbins tune.
Few are guilty, but all are responsible.”
― Abraham Joshua Heschel, The Prophets
The last cowboys...
from the movie Monte Walsh.
Some knew nothing other than the cowboy way and felt lost when their way of life was ending.
Heh, I couldn't help but notice the Marty Robbins video.
Long before that I thought of an entirely different tune. In your writing, I couldn't help but notice the line:
, which, of course, reminded me of an entirely different song, with many versions and variations, but all of them all about that John B. Stetson hat - Example:
And Billy even had a wife, who, in some versions, pursues and kills Stack, though those are rare.
Thanks for the OT and the intro to the world of contemporary westerns & contemporary equestrian fiction.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
DSCC's war on progressives
And still the MSM pretends that the Dems are a party of the Left.
Too many normie dems not paying attention.
Out in the west Texas town of El Paso ...
That song was on every jukebox in the southwestern US for decades.
My all-time favorite Western novels are Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy and The Outfit by J.P.S. Brown. I thought Hombre by Elmore Leonard was good too. For actual cowboy history I recommend The Cowboy: His Characteristics, His Equipment, and His Part in the Development of the West by Philip Ashton Rollins. Originally published in 1924 it was reprinted by Skyhorse Publishing in 2007.
Here's "Cowboy" Kent Rollins, no relation.
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Oh yeah, I'm just finishing up The Vory: Russia's Super Mafia by Mark Galeotti.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Joe Leaphorn and Jim Chee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrK7EoDaSc] is a good place to start.
Being a New Mexico native and anthropology buff, my best of the west list would begin with the Tony Hillerman novels set on the Navajo reservation. Not necessary to read them in order. [video:Few are guilty, but all are responsible.”
― Abraham Joshua Heschel, The Prophets
cormac
cormac
Hi Azazello
I wish I had the patience to listen through his non-stop talking, because I’ll bet the coffee is delicious. I remember well how much I enjoyed camping coffee. The process and final cup was so enjoyable, especially in the setting of living outdoors.
Everything tastes better outdoors.
You can take a French press camping if you want but I always do it the cowboy way, boil the water, dump in the ground coffee, let it steep, settle the grounds with cold water and drink it.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
I was doing it the same cowboy way,
and didn't know until now the style had a name. I also didn't know about the cold water trick to help the grinds settle. I will try that tomorrow.
morning phil
and everyone
Thanks for stepping up for the Friday ot.
I fear this is the new normal people. Lower low pressure systems and larger spreading high pressure systems. You can run but you can't hide.
Huge swells on NSW Central Coast leave Wamberal homes at risk of collapse due to beach erosion
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Pictures here
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Ugh...
oh bummer
So sorry to hear that. There is a point on the exponential curve...
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It's so weird seeing such vulnerable homes
with furniture lounging on the deck, looking like life's a beach.
The photo you highlighted is truly amazing.
Thank you phillybluesfan for filling Fridays with books
I’m not much of a Western fan, but I do consider Cormac McCarthy to be one of America’s greatest authors. Wallace Stegner is another author who I feel deserves to be considered one of the best.
On the other hand, this is one of my very favourite films …
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I'm slowly reading Longing, by J.D. Landis.
Doris Lessing’s “Shikasta”—1st of 5 novels in her Canopus series
… having already read The Making of the Representative for Planet 8 (book 4 of the series) many, many years ago when it first came out.