Bernie Volunteers Speak Out re: Paid Staffers & My Concerns about Tad Devine
Hi there. I know I have been posting a fair amount about certain paid staffers for Bernie and the allegations they may be plants working on behalf of the DNC or Hillary Clinton. I am still pursuing that story.
Today, however, I'd like to address the larger issue of how paid campaign staff who come in to run Bernie's state campaigns have abused, ignored and misused volunteers and the independent organizations they organized to support Bernie's candidacy. I've heard from many of these folks. They created their own grass roots organizations for Bernie months in advance of any direct contact with paid staff, acquiring valuable knowledge about l conditions in their localities that, sadly, was all too often dismissed out of hand by the paid staff hired to run Bernie's official state campaigns in the run-up to the elctions.
These volunteers did tremendous work creating networks of Sanders supporters throughout each state and even across state lines. They canvassed, used social media and generally spread the word about Bernie, his values and positions when the traditional media essentially refused to even acknowledge Bernie's candidacy. Many volunteers sacrificed both time and money on his behalf.
Yet, when Sander's paid staffers 'parachuted' into these states mere weeks before their state's primary or caucus, these volunteers, who were already organized and working for Bernie's victory, found their voices ignored and dismissed and their talents wasted. The paid staff, many of whom had limited experience themselves, and then only in working in traditional campaigns, essentially told the volunteers, who had acquired all this local knowledge and hard won experience, that their advice was not only not welcomed, but that they should just shut up and follow the plan laid out for them by the "professionals" who knew better, even when that plan was flawed and duplicated work by volunteers that had been already accomplished months earlier.
I discussed some of these issues in my story about Mark Craig and his interactions with Ryan Hughes, the official campaign's state director in Michigan, and since then I've heard from a number of volunteers in other states who have experienced similar issues. Rather than summarize them for you, I will let them tell their stories in their own words.
Let me begin with this comment I found on Facebook from a Michigan volunteer, Yolanda, responding top a post by Billy Taylor, where Hughes was assigned by the national campaign as the state director for the Pennsylvania. Here is what Yolanda had to say:
We were sent into neighborhoods with 8 out of 10 houses abandoned or condemned..Yeah great walking in 12" of snow where even the streets are not plowed much less the sidewalks cleared. And when they found out that WE were going to keep the office opened after the primary THEY decided to stay. Mark Craig secured the lease and paid for the internet to be put in. Now we are left with meeting back in each others houses like we began last summer. Yeah, that is really helping Bernie.
These issues, however, are not confined to Michigan. Here is a message sent to me by a volunteer in one of the western states about her problems working with the paid staff the national campaign in her state:
I have been reading your post about Hillary "moles" working in Bernie's campaign. What you are describing in your post about the relationships between grassroots organizers and the campaign staff fits my experience ... None the less, as the leader of a grassroots organization for Bernie , I found it frustrating that [the state director] and his staff did not want to work with us, rather ignored our work and started where we had been months before when the clock was ticking. Early voting just around the corner and Independents needed to be registered Dem. It would have been productive if he took the time to find out what we had done and what gaps needed to be filled in. No one from staff visits until after early voting is under way. First field organizer creates an event at a cafe at a time when the cafe is closed. I asked for canvassing materials and info and he gives us an area that we have worked in for months. I asked for areas that we haven't targeted yet and get nothing. Anyway, lots of other details I will not bore you with. I spoke to Dave Doering with Bernie's campaign, in San Francisco, told him that we could use help from the campaign and gave him some suggestions. He asked how working with [the state director] was going. He said I was not the first person he asked who was frustrated ... If [ the person who was the state director for this western state] was sent to another state, I would be very concerned. If Bernie wants to build a mass movement, his staff needs to work with the local people trailblazing the path to victory. My group was thinking WTF is the campaign staff doing?
WTF, indeed.
And here are some comments in email I received for a person working in Alaska for Bernie to whom I sent information regarding the irregularities and problems volunteers faced in North Carolina and Michigan:
Steven, thank you. I will try to get this passed up to someone with influence on the national campaign. Wish I had gotten it 14 hours earlier to be able to get it to Jane Sanders directly. The Michigan experience and how grassroots and local people were treated there was very similar to what happened here in Alaska, including volunteers negotiating for the lease of and paying for official campaign office space and not getting reimbursed.
Do I think that all these paid staffers are Hillary plants? No, I do not. However, I believe that they are likely following the lead of certain paid national staff, such as Tad Devine, Bernie's , a man who is a well known political mercenary, who has been involved with many establishment figures in the Democratic party, and whose political work has not been confined to the United Sates. Read the following excerpts from this Salon article about him back in February:
For members of the Democratic professional political class, 2016 presented two options: either sign on with the Cruise Ship Clinton, hoping to land a berth somewhere in the engine room; or stay on the sidelines entirely, stewing in green rooms, saving bon mots for the cable shows.
Except for one guy — Tad Devine, the Karl Rove to Bernie Sanders’ 2016 populist uprising. [...]
Devine though is as cosseted in the Beltway power establishment as a consultant comes. Pre-Barack Obama, he worked on every contested Democratic presidential primary going back to Jimmy Carter in 1980. He was the top delegate-counter for Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis. He has worked on campaigns in Europe, Latin America and the Middle East, helping to elect 11 presidents or prime ministers and 17 U.S. Senators. He was a top adviser to both Al Gore’s doomed 2000 campaign and to John Kerry’s 2004 effort. [...]
In his previous presidential forays, Devine was signed with the guy who the rest of the party rallied around. The ships he helped steer in 2000 and 2004 were massive operations, backed by all sorts of party insiders, institutional players, and the best pollsters, political operatives and message mavens money could buy.
Tad Devine is a quintessential Democratic Party ultimate insider. He's President of Devine, Mulvey, Longabaugh, and his firm's list of clients include a who's who among the establishment wing of the Democratic party, including conservatives such as Ben Nelson and John Corzine, former New Jersey Senator and Governor with major ties to Wall Street. Oh, and Devine also worked as "[s]enior strategist on the Gore-Lieberman campaign" and was "[c]ampaign manager for Senator Bob Kerrey's 1992 presidential campaign." Yes, that "Bob Kerrey", a Republican for 14 years and a Hillary supporter in 2008 who attacked Obama for his "Muslim background." Tad Devine is not in this campaign because he's enamored for Bernie and his revolution. He needed a job. He's in it for the money that Bernie's is paying him.
My issue with Tad Devine is that he only knows one way to run a political campaign - the old fashioned way, the DNC way, the way that depends on using a fundraising model dependent upon 'bundlers' beholden to Big Money. He's never been involved in an insurgent, grass root movement like Bernie's candidacy, and based on the evidence so far, in my opinion he knows nothing about working with volunteer grass roots groups that have fueled Bernie's rise from fringe candidate to a legitimate contender for the nomination.
Tad Devine sticks out like a sore thumb among Bernie's senior advisers. I suspect he is behind most of the hires at the national level who have ties to the DNC, to traditional Democratic candidates and to establishment figures in the party. And that is how people like Aisha Dew and Ryan Hughes got appointed to run state campaigns in North Carolina and Michigan, respectively. It is how the Chief of Staff at Cook County ClerkClem Balanoff, , became Bernie's Illinois state director.
I'm not claiming anything sinister here. I'm not impugning the dedication or loyalty of these paid staffers. What I am saying is that the people who run Bernie's official state operations are deeply connected to the the Democratic establishment, whether at the state or national level. They don't have the experience of running a truly grass roots campaign, nor do many of them seem willing to meet the self-organized volunteer groups for Bernie halfway. They are used to a top-down model of campaigning, and to them volunteers are nothing more than low level subordinates who should do what they are told regardless of their experience and the vast store of knowledge they've amassed working for Bernie in their own states prior to the national campaign's field organizers showing up to take over.
The former Sanders campaign organizer I spoke to indicated that the disconnect between the paid operatives and volunteer groups was the primary reason he resigned from the campaign. He saw the problem as a clash of cultures between the "hired guns," as he called them, and the grassroots people. Early on as part of Bernie's national staff, he worked to create a model for true cooperation between the national campaign and the thousands of volunteer organizations that had sprouted up across the country to support Sanders. Over time, however, he saw the national staff move away from that cooperative, decentralized, horizontal model of working with volunteers on an basis of mutual respect to a more traditional vertical, hierarchical model, where volunteers' insights, knowledge and creativity were dismissed as not conducive to the top-down model preferred by people like Tad Devine. The same top down "do what your told and like it" model that has frustrated and demoralized so many volunteers for Bernie.
And that is far more of a problem for the Sanders' campaign as it now moves to the crucial big delegate states of Pennsylvania, New York and California, than any "moles" secretly working for the Clinton campaign. One of the volunteers I quoted above said it best:
If Bernie wants to build a mass movement, his staff needs to work with the local people trailblazing the path to victory.
Amen to that.
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Interesting work, thanks for sharing it.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
was disappointed in central ohio
the official campaign set up an office in Columbus OH shortly before the primary
if the "professional staff" was on the ball, they would have made sure that Bernie yard signs were well stocked. They were not.
The door bell ringing campaigns from my extremely limited view were not that well run.
This is a extremely limited view but one to consider.
From what I heard in Alabama, from folks who had gone up
To help in nh, yard signs were in short supply.
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Love of power is a puppet string. - Makana, Fire is Ours
Great work you are doing Steven D!
We need to learn from this.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
I was going to post
something very similar. We DO need to learn from this.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Bernie's success has been due mostly to
an almost organic "Cell" structure of local organization.
The advantages of it are that it's very difficult to root out and destroy by a larger force.
The downside is that it's also very hard to get together MAJOR operations and offensives with that kind of structure without a huge amount of centralization.
Assuming good intentions on the part of the paid staffers:
They thought they were getting an army when they were getting an insurgency.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
That's been my impression about Devine, SD. From the
very beginning, he has sounded very much like a status quo type of guy, so I've been a bit leery of him, and/or his intentions. Not to say that he is not competent in what he does.
Of course, he is well-known in D.C., so Bernie must be familiar with him. So far, my impression of Devine is that he definitely intends to play within the parameters set by the DNC and Dem Party Establishment (from all the quotes that I've read).
At one point, Devine was quoted as having said that asking for more debates was a 'distraction.' BTW, this was before the second group was agreed upon. And that was at the same time that very publicly, Bernie supporters were asking for more debates.
Problem is--what can be done about it? (Other than what you're doing--writing about his management style).
Thanks for the post. I enjoy posts about the 'nuts and bolts' of the campaigns.
(Music City) Mollie, C99P & Daily Kos
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"The standard of living of the average American has to decline. I don't think you can escape that."--Paul Volcker, The New York Times, October 18, 1979, Page 1.
“If we can divide the electorate this way, we can have them expending their energies fighting amongst themselves, over issues that for us, have no meaning whatsoever."--USA Bankers Magazine, August 25, 1924
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Devine worked
on Bernie's first Senate campaign. They have known each other a long time.
I trust Bernie Sanders, especially his judgement
He and Devine, as OLinda says, have know each other for years.
Not really sure what Steven D is "implying" in this essay.
Surprised - Bernie is very DIRECT in what he says AND does.
What is the essayist expecting Bernie to do about this?
I'm saying that
I have nothing against Bernie - he's the candidate - he doesn't have time to direct the nuts and bolts of the ground game.
What I am saying is that there has been a big disconnect between the paid staff who come into a state where Bernie activists are already well organized. Telling them what top do, refusing to consult with them, ignoring their advice, is just stupid.
And I've been speaking to more and more people everyday who share this frustration.
Devine is a long time political operative, but that doesn't mean he and the rest of the staff that have experience in traditional establishment politics and campaigns know the best way to make the best use of all these varied organizations of committed volunteers, many of whom far more knowledge about their home turf than the campaign staff itself does.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Typical top down driven system run by bureaucrats and insiders.
If I was part of the on-the-ground leadership that preceded these people, I would exercise my own judgement. You have to listen and coordinate but within perimeters.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Running hard
I can't keep up with all Bernie is doing...multiple events every day. I bet it is easy for things to get lost.
Thom Hartmann had a couple of progressive radio folks on his show. All three said they had reached out to the campaign, but hadn't heard back.
Like the Queen told Alice, "You've got to run twice as fast to get anywhere."
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
doesn't look to be about implications...
what steven seems to be pointing out is that there is a cultural disconnect between the traditional, washington-insider, paid operatives and the volunteer, grassroots folks. the disconnect has led to some conflicts and some inefficiencies.
was it avoidable? maybe not, maybe it was inevitable. maybe it just is.
what bernie should probably do about this in his copious spare time, is try to understand the situation and learn from it. going forward, bernie says he is going to be mobilizing a revolution, which will undoubtedly be run, not by paid campaign staff, but by the grassroots folks that are having some troubles with his organization. that conflict will have to get resolved. maybe it won't happen overnight, though.
My experience
So I guess I have two sets of experience here: one with the field staff in Iowa and New Hampshire, and another with Tad himself from the '92 Kerrey campaign.
On the staff: they are the most professional I have ever encountered. I interacted with both paid staff (including the NH and IA field directors), paid staff at the local level, and volunteers. All of the paid staff's attention to detail was the best I have ever seen. Calls and texts were made when they should have been made. Volunteers were treated respectfully. It was amazing.
I did not see any tension between paid Staff and volunteers. That may have been because the paid staff was on the ground so long in Iowa and New Hampshire. It must be said that the Sanders campaign has a LOT of paid field organizers. This is a good thing - I was a "volunteer" on one campaign that was paid nothing and yet moved from state to state. Sanders invested in paid staff in part because it believed in grass roots organizing (as opposed to dumping all of the money in media).
Having said that, there almost ALWAYS is tension. This is endemic - I could tell story after story of paid DC staff fucking up Florida, for example.
I liked Tad - but I hardly think he is a genius. He was hired because he knows the primary process, and those close to Bernie (some of whom I have known since Bernie ran for Mayor in 1981) really don't. Truth be told none of them really knew how to run a national campaign. There is a lot of logistics involved (ironically I did some of this in '92): you need to get on the ballot, you need to fill delegate slates, you need to understand the local Party rules and the number of people who know all of this is not long.
Thing is, Tad really can't do much damage for one simple reason: Bernie knows what his message is. There is no way Tad is going to march into a conference room and tell anyone around Bernie what to say to do. Bernie is used to running his own campaigns, and on messaging I have little doubt he is very much his own campaign manager.
That's one reason why
the messaging is uncompromising and spot-on.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Funny how much simpler everything is
when the candidate is honest. Who DOESN'T know what Bernie thinks about most things? His opinions are his own; they aren't poll-tested drivel he'll drop in a heartbeat if his current audience doesn't want to hear it. I can't imagine trying to talk to voters on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
Twain Disciple
The same thing happened in my area in 2004
We had a great volunteer group - energized and active getting voters registered and supporting John Kerry. Worked all through the summer and early Fall. In October 'paid' staff from the DNC/Campaign came into the area and basically took over - threw their weight around and ignored all the work we had done. We were shunted aside - and on election day itself most of us were assigned to canvas areas we knew had been worked over several times in the preceding days because we had done the knocking - - then when we protested we were assigned to deliver donuts and pizza to the precincts by the paid head witch in charge. Most of us quit and went home.
Because of this I refused to work in an organized effort in 2008 - instead we worked our neighbors, friends and family. In 2012 I voted.
I agree that on the ground level, 'professional' campaign workers are mostly inexperienced and most mean well but have a tendency to dismiss simple 'volunteers' and can quite put those early efforts into disarray.
We just need to keep working it like the Movement it is and do what we think is right - take what you can from the pros but ignore any bad or ineffective ideas they have. This is THE PEOPLES Campaign...not the pros.
FEEL THE BERN: "But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing." - Thomas Paine
"Here I Stand, I can do no other." - Attributed to Martin Luther, 1521
and Obama in '08
the national comes into the state at primary time and screws everything up. Sometimes they win and that convinces them they're right. Sometimes they lose and they ignore that it was their fault.
You have just described
the Florida 2002 campaign for Governor. A bunch of DC types flew and just screwed everything up.
Sort of the same thing happened in '04.
Obama '08 was just a completely different experience, in part because there was so much more money to spend on the ground.
i'm guessing you were at janet reno's rally back then
in kendall, fl,
that's me at her birthday party/rally circa 2001, i think. i felt really at home there, a bona fide fla cracker.
it was a real bummer she lost to mcbride by less than 5k votes for the dem. side.
the rest was history, and we got bush and then scott. so depressing for me.
Thanks so much!
Jane needs to read this so appropriate action can be taken. Our grassroots are vital to this campaign.
Outstanding work, StevenD!
As kharma has posted above, I think we can learn something from this. I do believe that much of this is due to the top down management style and using professionals who may not understand the conditions on the ground as well as the vounteers. I appreciate all the hard work and follow ups you have done on this story. Well done!
I have edited this comment with the language shown in italics.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Having interacted
with a large number of the paid staff at the field level I do not think it is fair to call them mercenaries. Virtually to a person all were true believers.
I just don't think the characterization is right.
since you have worked on the ground
and know from first hand experience, I will edit my comment. I do not want to get into a tit for a tat on this.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Not trying to start
an argument. But the people I have interacted with true believers. It would not shock me to learn others have a different experience.
It may be IA and NH were the true believers, and those that came later were looking for a job.
Did not mean to offend.
No offense taken
I used a poor choice of words.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I used to call myself a mercenary
but what I meant by that was that pols could hire me, and gain my temporary loyalty, but that I didn't *belong* to any one particular politician or his machine.
There were, of course, serious limits/boundaries around what kind of politician I'd work for.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
So it is
sounding like the major problem is like the Mars mission that failed, one team using imperial measures(paid staffers) and the other side using the metric system(Grassroots volunteers). They need to get along the same page to win this!
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Didn't something like that happen with Hubble telescope?
It got sent up myopic, or something due to a bad lens? At least after that, fixes could be made in spacero.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
I got a text today
from a volunteer here in NJ needing people to come to a "signature" event. They need signatures to get Bernie on the ballot for delegates, I think. I don't know enough about the delegate process so I might be getting this wrong. But my point is I think this person is a volunteer and this is really important work. For the paid campaign to alienate them is really damaging. I'm not sure who is coming here to run the state campaign for the primary in June. I assume they leave these wretched June primaries to last priority. I really want the calendar and primary process changed.
In Texas, signature drive was done by volunteers
We did get an office/staff (although I really have no idea what the state director did, and the staff said the same thing). Our signatures were due in late fall, and we'd only had staff a short time by then.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I had an identical comment post twice
Not seeing a delete button (but at least I could clear the redundancy).
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Great work Steven. I carry water for Bernie and Bernie only
He is amazing, despite the near unanimous party insiders worrying about thier own skins Bernie is still gonna win this.
I promise you all that Bernie wins.
By the way I was on the trading floor the day that MF Global shit the bed. John Corzine is a really nice guy, one of those guys that talks to even the junior level staff.
He actually made a solid investment and had the firm stayed open it would have made millions in profits. What brought MFG down was not a bad trade, it was the perception that the rest of the Street had of the trade that caused the mass exodus of capital.
Now Corzine was a shitty Senator don't get me wrong, but perception counts as much as reality.
This is what kos has tried to do to Bernie since he announced, he has tried to paint Bernie into the deviant sphere. He is trying to change the perception of Bernie. He has failed and he is desperate.
Thank you for all the work
you have put into this, Steven D. My partner thanks you We're concerned, seeing some of the same stuff playing out in California, and hearing hints of it in New York. I wish there was some way to get this to someone at the top of the food chain (Jane?) I think Arizona might have turned out a bit differently if paid staff had arrived earlier, had understood the nature of our Presidential Preference Election (NOT a "Primary"...since our Primaries are open...and later), and the importance of making sure masses of Independents were registered with the Dems. Local issues like sending out canvassers to an area that was LARGELY Bernie voters, who had already early-voted, and who lived many flights of stairs up steep hillsides was, at most, a frustrating distraction. But getting this word out to the campaign now just might make every effort count...and we really can't afford to waste much at this point.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
learning a new kind of campaign
I have been talking with people who have years of experience in campaigns/state party politics and some paid staff really are more like hired mercenaries who will spend more time talking about how a campaign will look good on their resumes instead of plotting strategy. It is great when a campaign has "true believers" but this campaign was an outsider one with a very different funding structure, plus super-enthusiastic, self-starter volunteers. I just hope people are writing and collecting experiences, because to create something different from establishment politics means we need to share what we learn for future campaigns. We need to build professional knowledge for people who are not coming up through state party politics. I was recently told how the youngest members in a state party, given a chance to take a progressive stance, would actually be more cautious - not wanting to make waves. These people learn that good fundraising and obedience to whatever those in power at a state level wants are the ways to advance a career. These are not the creative thinkers who will run progressive campaigns from here on out. Great work, Steve!
Oh, I should have read this comment first
Before responding to fladem's "mercenary" comment! Apologies, fladem.
To respond to katherine: I don't think this is true across the board. Most people I know working for pay on campaigns are not thinking mainly about their resumes while doing it. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised, given what happened to me in DC (maybe I'll write about that story sometime), if there were an upsurge in the kind of "mercenary" you describe, b/c the system is purging what you call "true believers" out of itself.
This part of your comment is sensational! and bears a lot of thought/discussion:
I just hope people are writing and collecting experiences, because to create something different from establishment politics means we need to share what we learn for future campaigns. We need to build professional knowledge for people who are not coming up through state party politics. I was recently told how the youngest members in a state party, given a chance to take a progressive stance, would actually be more cautious - not wanting to make waves. These people learn that good fundraising and obedience to whatever those in power at a state level wants are the ways to advance a career. These are not the creative thinkers who will run progressive campaigns from here on out.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I would not say it's more of a problem
Moles, if they exist, are an enormous problem. Infiltration is a nasty beast, very difficult to deal with, very destructive.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Great conversation....
We go from moles to professional staff. Lots of differing points of view on the quality of Devine's crew. We should lose site that this is about moles. People who want Hillary to win in charge of Bernie's campaign.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Isn't Devine the strategist? And he does advertising.
I don't know the campaign's org chart. But Becky bond, formerly of credo mobile, has introduced herself as on the national organizing team. According to this article, she & zach exley are both pretty high up. Another thing in this article is that political campaigns are a pretty small world and you can work with someone on campaign b and 2 years later you can be working for enemy campaigns.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2016-02-24/behind-bernie-sand...
Also, Clair Sandburg (I think that's Claire's last name) and a different zach - zach m- are something like the distributed volunteer directors.
This may be why
All of Bernies television ads in Washington discussed his vote against the dead transcanada pipeline. I suspect that they are not aware of the pressure being brought on this state and Oregon to ship much of that oil via rail to ports built here Is really a sore spot. He may have gotten more than 73% without that ad.
This echoes my concerns
about the establishment co-opting the process. People who think they know how things are supposed to work insert themselves into the process. People like that can seriously erode a movement as well as the control freaks that insert themselves who think they know what's best.
I think this is one more reason Bernie hasn't done as well as he could have in places like NC, OH, FL, IL. I think Bernie could have had done at least 2% better since the Deep South was done with in every state if there hadn't been the moles, the staffers who thought they knew better and not coordinating with the grassroots.
In fact, since the paid staffers have showed themselves being so poor in their abilities, grassroots have seemed to have picked up the slack and THAT is why Bernie is doing so much better now and actually still has a chance to win the nomination. If the staffers had been competent, Hillary would be behind at this point.
If it wasn't for the voter suppression, hacked databases, election fraud, Hillary probably would have only won the Deep South, and elsewhere, she would have actually had more shutouts than just Vermont.
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I don't know if this helps or not,
but even though the Wisconsin Bernie state director has also been named as one of supposed Hillary moles, things in Green Bay have been going fucking awesome! My personal experience is exactly the opposite of what you describe in your diary, thank FSM.
We had one snafu with the office lease (do not get my started), but other than that, it's not only been smooth sailing, but it's been inspiring! The Bernie national folks out here (Dylan is the area guy, Julia is the regional gal, and there's some other new guy who runs the Fox Cities operation now) have been treating us with nothing but respect, and have leaned on the really involved Bernie volunteers to help them out. There is very much a love-love relationship between us Bernie volunteers in the area, who formed a group and started volunteering in July, and the newly brought-in national folks, who are young and motivated and seem to be open to pretty much whatever we suggest.
The goal here is to get Bernie the Democratic nomination and eventually to the White House. If the national and the local Bernie peeps don't get along and don't assist each other, that doesn't help Bernie in the slightest.
I'd also like to put a sign in our Bernie office that says "check your ego at the door". I've run into more than one volunteer who thought they were all that and a bag of chips, and I'm sure it's not just limited to volunteers. I very easily tire of people who think it's their way or the highway and who are not open-minded.
The goal is to get Bernie Sanders elected POTUS. If I need to canvass through a neighborhood in 12 inches of snow with no plowed streets on April 2nd, in order to get my candidate into the White House, I'll do it without complaint.
I miss Colorado.
I'm glad to hear this!
I think there are always going to be problems when someone comes in in a paid capacity to take over from people who have been running things themselves. But a smart and capable person will know how to bring those people into the fold and use their energy and dedication. Sounds like they might be doing it right in Wisconsin.
Unfortunately, not everyone is capable of doing that, especially not if they think they know best - always a bad assumption when coming into an area and dealing with existing locals. I hope that the remaining states paid staff can be made to learn from past mistakes - as we cannot afford to continue making any mistakes in the remaining states.
I'm hoping things are being corrected after each problem is....
...pointed out.
I'm so hopeful... still. Maybe that makes me a fool.
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Muerte al fascismo. Muerte a la tiranía. colapso total de los que promueven tampoco. A la pared con el unico porciento%
My wallet's getting thin, dang it, so what am I paying for?
What I want to hear from EVERY branch of Bernie's campaign in EVERY state is: paid outside staff are STARTING OUT by ASKING the locals who have already been working their asses off for months, "HOW CAN WE HELP. WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE."
Not just starting out asking that, but CONTINUALLY asking that, until everyone there is getting along well and truly working TOGETHER.
I wish I could earmark my donations: "For ads only" or "For the use of volunteers only." Seems like the paid staff on the local end are screwing things up more than they are helping. Maybe local staff should be allowed to run things even after the hired staff come in? Maybe they should be asked whether they NEED outside help at all?
Yes, I'm feeling a bit pissed off at the moment. I just passed the halfway mark on being maxed out in donations. Feel like too big a part of my contributions are being wasted on mismanagement (or sabotage). I just replied to the latest Bernie request for donations by asking (again) for a remedy to this kind of stuff, or at least an assurance that these things are being addressed. No one answered my first inquiry.
I don't actually expect an email response to a blanket donation request email to even be read -- or received, for that matter, although so far they have not bounced back, either. I wish we could get some sort of response that someone trustworthy is working and remedying these problems.
I sent an email to an address I found on the campaign site, as well, weeks ago, but never heard back.
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Well, the locals always have the option to ignore what the
paid staff are telling them to do. They may not think of that, right away, but if they have an organization that has been working, they should just keep doing what they have started. And maybe inform the staff as to why it is working, why it is important, and why they don't want to do what staff wants them to do.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Push back
Want to thank you for sounding alarms on possible moles in Sanders campaign. We will all be happy if it isnt so. Regarding some push back and finger wagging that may go on due to the questions raised, please hold your ground. We will be happy if it isnt so but there is at least one as yet unexplained fact: the march call off Barber debacle. The email that went out was an order basically, no questions to be asked. That is mole work. And then there is still an unresolved question about the data breach by staff recommended by the DNC. So it is not wrong to sound the alarm and put people on notice. It may not be possible at this time for the campaign to stop everything and deal with it, but if there are moles the questions being raised are going to inhibit their effectiveness. Your recent point about paid staff versus volunteers - this must be human nature- but it exactly mirrors what this campaign is suppose to be fighting against so it is a problem and they should be told, now not later. People wont come out again if they are treated badly.
Supplies were short in OH
I am self-supplying for KY.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Many thanks for that!
That's another reason I love this campaign. I hope the paid staff appreciate you.
Thanks for keeping on this. Important going forward
I'm in NC and had been trying to get the facts re Aisha Dew. Our local group pretty much went with, "no time to look back and don't want to demoralize volunteers". Understandable, in a way, but I prefer to to work within a framework of knowing the territory, avoiding the potholes, and using the complete picture to make a better road forward. So, I keep working, now, outside the local organization, (someone called me a freelance volunteer) respecting the decision of the local leaders - a couple of whom are doing a stunningly good job (including flat out schooling some nationals on how to approach and address southeners.)
Wish there was a way to get Bill McKibbon to work with the top level pros on how 350.org leadership works. Much more acceptable and in alignment with the millennials than the old hierarchal/patriarchal model. Think the suggestion of getting info to Jane is a very good one.
Politico Interview with Tad Devine
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/full-transcript-glenn-thrush-inter...
I don't like that he said, "I'm not saying we're going to get 538 electoral votes"
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/full-transcript-glenn-thrush-inter...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Yolanda's post leaves some questions
I understand what she's getting at except
OK so the volunteer crew, headed by Mark Craig, was the driving force and even put up some serious money for the office, which normally would be the pros' job. But where is the problem with "THEY decided to stay" - that just seems sensible? Also, "now we are left with meeting back in each others' houses": so the lease on the office ran out? the pros did not renew but should have?
We don't know what terms they had for the lease - if they could save a few bucks by closing after the primary in OH was over, it's perhaps bad in the long term because you get a better deal if you stay put - but in the short term, you save a few bucks. It's what you have to do when you don't enjoy the benefit of a few billionaires.
Gandalf and Saruman unite, demand to bring back Greywolfe359!
Our County staffer in NY
IS awesome.
Some of you may know I've been organizing at the county level for Bernie since August. I built a NY voter data base and shared it with upstate organizers, including phone numbers. Our local staffer is totally on the same page as me. I have 14 campaigns since 2004 under my belt. He was stunned we were already canvassing from my database in Westchester County NY. In fact we were canvassing and phone banking NY Dems since Sept.
Yeah, Hillary's backyard.
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
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FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.