#NotMyCandidate - Fork Your Canoe - #VoteBlueNoMatterWho
So, this is the guy the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho crowd want to shove down our throats to be the 2020 Democrat nominee, and go up against Trump in the GE? The guy is going to get roasted, and splattered all over the place. Metaphorically speaking, a fucking blood bath!
It's.fucking.embarrassing! 
This is #NotMyCandidate ! Fuck the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho crowd!
Concerns about Joe Biden’s cognitive decline were first raised not by Trump operatives nor by Sanders supporters, but principally by Democratic Party officials and their most loyal allies in the media, writes @ggreenwald. https://t.co/fXtU9vn7Ah
— The Intercept (@theintercept) March 10, 2020
Corporate media, feeling secure enough in Bernie's demise, have begun spinning a narrative to ditch Biden in favor of candidate x (TBD by DNC*).
Time to prove them wrong with a #BernieSurge.
* a Bloomberg L.P. companypic.twitter.com/MMRtf1QiiP
— Climate Clock ????#IStandWithIlhan???? (@Tav_assoli) March 10, 2020
Biden says he would veto Medicare for All if the bill ever reached his desk pic.twitter.com/erdq11KN1v
— Eddy (@LebaneseJokerYT) March 10, 2020
Is Elizabeth Warren seriously going to stay neutral when one candidate has promised to literally veto Medicare for all? https://t.co/2mQvU810fJ
— John Iadarola (@johniadarola) March 10, 2020
This ad shows you who Joe Biden is. Partaking in the corruption and selling out was a ‘duh’ thing for him. This is how you lose to Trump and change nothing! pic.twitter.com/biOd9lom9u
— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) March 10, 2020
Who should I believe, you, or you?pic.twitter.com/lvxxFD6pXH
— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) March 10, 2020
WATCH: "You’re full of sh*t," @JoeBiden tells a man who accused him of "actively trying to end our Second Amendment right."
"I support the Second Amendment," Biden adds while vising under-construction auto plant in Detroit. @CBSNews pic.twitter.com/sueOSBaY9P
— Bo Erickson CBS (@BoKnowsNews) March 10, 2020
I'm going to retweet all the videos of @JoeBiden aggressively stepping-up and putting his finger in the faces of concerned citizens. #JoeBiden2020 https://t.co/F0QOipw787
— Roza Calderón?? (@rozacalderon) March 10, 2020
Joe Biden gets GRILLED by angry veteran Irak Afghanistan - "My friends are dead.. Sir!"?? #Biden #Biden2020 #Irak #War #investigateBiden ?? pic.twitter.com/x6E210eOEe
— Newo - Judicial zone (@oakentersagain) March 5, 2020
#BidensCognitiveDecline#MichiganPrimary
There is no way this man would beat Trump. None. Trump isn't very bright, but he'd shred Biden. Joe is like this every single day but the media doesn't cover it.Bernie's our only shot.#BernieSurge pic.twitter.com/nH7g7Y3nRF
— Pat the Berner?? (@PatTheBerner) March 10, 2020
Too bad status quo Joe is losing his marbles. He will never be president because he's senile and Trump will eat him up. When he was lucid a few years ago, Biden told America: #VoteForBernie pic.twitter.com/il59pf8YpB
— HearUsRoar ?? ?? (@BeingTheBern) March 10, 2020
"Forget the gaffes, what about Biden's lies?" - my latest @theintercept video essay on how the former veep gets a pass from Democrats and much of the media for making stuff up, and telling brazen falsehoods, but it'll hurt him in the general against Trump:pic.twitter.com/Mk335VLUmH
— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) March 10, 2020
Bahahahaha
Ok Suzanne, keep your head firmly placed in the sand and block your ears to the fact that you're defending the candidate that would GUARANTEE a Trump reelection. But when that happens, you'll be blaming Bernie Bro's and Russians, of course.https://t.co/azeG0T5oCA
— Elizabeth Lea Vos (@ElizabethleaVos) March 10, 2020
President "My Boss?" Repeatedly forgetting Barack Obama's name is not a stutter. It's just not a name you forget, especially when you've made your relationship to him your entire pitch for the presidency.#BidensCognitiveDecline pic.twitter.com/VV3BRt8LfG
— gato fumador ? (@QueenInYeIIow) March 10, 2020
Who acts like this? https://t.co/FWYXFa3IDu
— Heather Champion (@winningatmylife) December 1, 2019
#LoseWithBiden2020
The Republic is lost... 
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C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
I'll write in
a name for POTUS, before I ever vote for Joementia or Drumpf. Couldn't even bring myself to watch the returns last night knowing how bad we're all screwed this election. Time to stock up on ammo for when this country finally explodes.
@crbngville I'm thinking of legally
I'm thinking of legally changing my name to "None of the Above". I should win the presidency by a land slide...
(snark)
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
Just like
Monty Brewster!
If his “marbles” were suddenly gifted back to him, he
would still be awful. Just terrible! His policies have led us where we are today. And he’s going to save us from them now? Not on your life!
In Disney’s Cinderella, the wicked step-mother gives the poor girl hope only to snatch it away by orchestrating the destruction of her dress. Cinderella had a Fairy Godmother to give her what she needed. Too bad we don’t.
Sticking to issues may help give us some legitimacy. Just let Joe blither and blather his incoherent responses. That lets people decide instead of them coming to his defense.
Edited so that it sounds like I still have MY marbles.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
marbles miraculously re-minded
Either the voters are plotting their own demise
or the cheating machines are screwing with us.
Bernie is pushing M4A. (# 1 issue w/voters)
Anyone thinking joementia would formulate a
coherent healthcare policy is just not thinking.
On his very best day ever Biden would not devise
Medicare for All. He has never believed in such a economically compassionate program.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Agreed O'Lilly
not the peoples choice
but the machines seem to like him
Both electronic and political.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Ha, yup
what's the difference?
@Lily O Lady It's a bad time to figure
It's a bad time to figure out I don't have a fairy god mother... Now I'm really depressed...
It's funny (odd) how we humans seek out some kind of "intervention" by a god mother or god to save us, when faced with such inhumanity, by our "civilized society".
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
I'm unregistering to vote.
I'm not playing anymore. Taking my toys and going home. Fuck these people.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I’m not giving them that. I want TPTB to know I’m
out there so that they have to at least waste the energy to lie to me.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Back to voting 3rd party for me
It was strange feeling actual hope for a few weeks
I was feeling hopeful too
Now I'm asking myself, what was I thinking? We saw what they did in 2016, why did I think they wouldn't screw us this time?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
C'mon, doesn't this inspire y'all?
Nyah, I guess not. The poster is missing Obama, though, behind the curtain pulling the strings and pulling the levers -- when he's not too busy playing real life computer games with drones.
Unfortunate choice of words in the title
Of that poster, don't you think?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Same here.
We should have known not to get used to the hope thing.
No third party for me and no "major" party either.
I'm going to write-in Bernie and Tulsi. I'm also going to continue to support Bernie and other decent candidates. Let the oligarchs struggle with me.
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
Oh, I’m writing in Bernie! Because
f*ck those guys!
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory!!!!!
They are not worth
MY energy.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Strongly considering
not voting.
I changed my registration to Democrat to vote for Sanders in the primary. Mission accomplished.
I'll be switching back to Green as soon as I get around to it.
There are never any Democrats on the ballot here until you get to the state level. Single party rule. I don't know who the Democrats are going to run in this Congressional district, but last time the gal (she seemed nice, but she was an anti-gunner and if you don't have an A+ NRA rating your own mother won't vote for you here) only got 30% (I was surprised it was that high). We'll get Chickenpooper running for Senate and I'm not voting for him. And it looks like either Joementia or the secret candidate to be named at the convention, so nobody to vote for there. I don't care about the University of Colorado Regents. Maybe state treasurer or something? Seriously, if I vote the whole ballot will be blank or pointless write-in.
There's only been one time in my adult life that I didn't vote, and that was because I had moved right before the election.
There's no lesser evil to vote for when every choice vanishes into a black hole of evil.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
I'm staying in for the local politics
while we still have them. And for the constitutional amendments and ballot initiatives, some of which can still be stopped and are important to stop.
I would suggest, respectfully, that you do the same (contingent on your local conditions, of course).
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
It has been the case for a long time...
perhaps for all US history....
I hope Bernie doesn't concede and takes it to the convention Bye-done is very likely to melt down, perhaps in this weekends debate...provided it happens.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Caitlin agrees with Twain
I appreciate how she, an Australian, understands and cares for the American people.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/03/11/keep-up-the-fight-electoral-poli...
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
Great set up but she nails it here
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I'll stick with Eugene Debs
And besides, writing in Bernie will cause the powers that be great distress and discomfort.
I wish
more people would understand the significance of this:
What distresses me most is that I have absolutely no credibility in any of these discussions. I spent (sacrificed?) my career on the alter of causing the powers that be great distress and discomfort. And, now when it really counts, I find the "lumpenproletariat" (to use the Marxist's term) are unable to grasp the power and joy of actually winning. It is so very sad to see those that can be persuaded that they can't.
RIP
Since no matter what I do
. . . and no matter what I've done throughout my life, I'm still gonna be considered a racist, a mansplaining misogynist and the like by neolibcons and various stripes of lefties, I'm considering the possibility of going with the flow and voting for Trump just to piss off the folks who make and/or made out like voting for Bernie was buying into just another form of evil. I will probably just write-in Bernie but I'm just so freaking frustrated with Democrats and just about everybody and everything. Beyond this year, I'll probably just concentrate on me and mine. A working class hedonism coz that's all I can afford.
I know whereof you speak.
If it was just me, myself, and I nothing would have ever worked out as it did. I was so lucky getting a position in Nebraska where I stumbled upon an eclectic crowd of activists. We didn't always agree but we were able to see past our differences and make real positive changes in our situation.
On the other hand: Here in Southwest Oregon everyone is so very busy spinning their wheels they never seem to get anywhere.
Some days (or lifetimes) you just have to do what you can do, or, as they say, just keep putting one foot in front of another, but Lao Tzu said it better …
RIP
That first step
of the guy in your picture will be a real doozy (grin).
Bernie will help him out
"...the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn dementia"
because Trump.
wish I was joking.
Forever the gentleman
unfortunately, politics does not favor
moral integrity
Observations...
In my view, the voting public is in a panic because of the coronavirus and the stock market tanking. They are afraid of change. Fear is the biggest factor in holding back the human race, AND in times when we let go of our rights.
Suddenly the dem voters became AFRAID. Bernie represents CHANGE and people are just looking for safety.
However, safety is an illusion when it comes to Joe Biden just as much as it has been with Trump. A big fucking obvious illusion. But the dye is cast against Bernie and I don't see any glimmer of hope anymore.
I will in no way vote for Joe Biden, but this time I won't tell people that I know about it. I can't take another vote shaming beating like I did the last time.
Oh, and Elizabeth Warren played a huge role in sabotaging Bernie. I won't forget that.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Explanations of why Bernie is "losing"
Boil down to this. He's not. They're cheating.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
@Anja Geitz EXACTLY! They can't win
EXACTLY! They can't win in a fair "fight", that is the nutshell version, full stop.
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
You're part right
But never underestimate the widespread ignorance and stupidity of Americans. Then again, we hold no monopoly on that in this world. Sorry if my misanthropy is showing.
And consider, too, that come November voters will be reacting first and foremost to immediate material conditions, not ideology. If the economy continues to falter and fall and if the coronavirus spreads, they will even vote for dimwitted, demented Biden.
If Trump ignites war fever, the chance of him winning will be elevated.
It'll be a 50-50 toss up but no matter what, we lose.
Nonetheless, I still deeply believe with every ounce of my being that we did the right thing by supporting Bernie. We'll never have so much of a chance again, for my two cents. And at least though the election in November. I'll do whatever I can to discomfort TPTB. Seems the idea of writing in Bernie is freaking them out most of all right now on twitter: #WriteinBernie.
Beyond that, we'll just have to make do with what we can, however we each choose.
So it goes.
Edit/Add:
we did the right thing by supporting Bernie
Good point
Give peace a chance
May just save us
or the kids
No idea whether that's true or not
but it seems, at this point, almost immaterial, since they can rearrange the results to their liking. The only possible problem for them is that they're running against another cheater. That didn't turn out too well for them last time.
Also, these Democratic primary "results" will have a powerful vote-suppressing effect all on their own. They are a clear message to the people who want a change. And remember, most of the people who want a change are not coming to that ideologically, but for material reasons. Their lives are wrecked and they face the danger of medical bankruptcy every day. They're not likely to support someone who represents the status quo, since the status quo is killing them. That will be more true with the coronavirus, not less. You really think they'll flock to the people who say Medicare for All will never pass? They're more likely to abandon the vote.
It's not my education or intelligence that enables me to hear the message "We don't care if you die." If lots of people hadn't heard that message, Bernie would never have attracted tens of millions of followers. Remember that he has broken all records for the number of donations and has outfundraised everybody but Trump. Why would that be, if he has as little support as these results suggest?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Comforting, but
Bernie struggled all through 2019 without coming close to closing the deal.
In politics and business is always about closing the deal. Those that get it done rise up the ranks, securely with their reputation as a deal closer. The quality of the deal or product is irrelevant. The intelligence, competence, etc. of those that close deals is also irrelevant.
Comforting?
In what way is the realization that our votes will never be counted if the candidate we voted for goes against the democratic establishments preferred choice comforting?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Read Caitlin Johnstone's
latest piece again. Comforting leads to anger and depression without facing up to the real challenges and how to constructively overcome them. How can it be that the DNC could control and manipulate the primary vote counts in states that are almost exclusively -- from local up through the state -- controlled by Republicans?
Comforting the same way Hillary and the pink pussycats blame Russia/Putin for Trump's improbable but very real win. 2020 isn't 2016 when general voter anger against the elites in both parties was high. Enough Republican voters said screw this and ended up with what to them was the outsider candidate even as everyone told them that he couldn't a) get the nomination and b) beat Hillary. Having overcome the naysayers on both counts, they are now well comforted and in denial that Trump hasn't delivered anything to them.
Democrats -- being more go along to get along than Republicans -- couldn't quite pull off that extra margin required to overcome the DNC thumb on the scale. A thumb that was obvious by the suumer of 2015.
First of all, you don’t know me
So, I find it absurd that you feel entitled to lecture me.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Wow.
Unfortunately, there's a difference between Russiagate and Democratic party electoral fraud. There was never any evidence of Russiagate. There was a ton of evidence of Democratic party electoral fraud against Sanders in 2016, and the same people are running the party and the elections now. Not only that, there was evidence of Democratic party electoral fraud this time--in Iowa, and if you count voter suppression as fraud, in Texas as well. I stopped looking into it at that point, not because I was afraid I would find that the anti-Bernie results were genuine, but because I couldn't hack looking at more election fraud after twice with Bush and once before with Bernie. Previous times, I kept scrupulous track of what was happening. I've now reached my fucking limit of staring at the horror of people being deprived their right to choose.
However, I can still use my logic, and I soon will, in an upcoming essay.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The idea that those results are genuine is nonsense.
I really need to write that essay, but have been running around getting stocked up for the coronavirus--and tomorrow have to take Kate to Jacksonville to see her daughter. So I won't get to it before Saturday. Dammit.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Hard to close any deal when the deck is stacked
against you as it was, and remains against Bernie Sanders.
The entire Democratic machine and it's top operatives pushed every button to derail his momentum in every State, all the top newspapers attacked Sanders from every direction along with all of the broadcast media, including faux 'progressive' sites chiming in 24/7.
Then you have the saboteurs that shared debate stages with Sanders while in front of hostile 'moderators',and the key saboteur was Elizabeth 'nuthin' more important than mean tweets' Warren who,once again, got close enough to Bernie stab him in the back which she did with great enthusiasm.
She makes sure to go on MSNBC's top rated show,the Russia Maddow show, to spread her sabotage far and wide to an important segment of the voting public, which is echoed by the other networks, especially Anti-Bernie Central, CNN.
Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg did their part in keeping Bernie's delegate count low feeding the attacks on Bernie, and Amy played a big part in Bernie losing Minnesota but neither of them did near as much to sink Bernie's chances than Elizabeth Warren who I hope gets booted out of office in a couple of years when she is up for reelection.
I also see Obama's fingerprints all over this in the form of despicable Tom Perez, Jim Clyburn, recipient of a million dollars from the pharmaceutical industry,who broke his pledge that if SC was moved up in the voting order he would not endorse anyone before a Primary. That puts to rest his pathetic excuse that Bernie 'didn't ask him' for an endorsement but maybe Bernie thought he was an honorable man and would keep his word, one thing is for certain the Democratic Party, and the media never mentioned it as far as I know.
Last of all I don't think I am telling you anything you don't already know but I guess I just had to get this rant out of my system but my disgust for Elizabeth Warren is not going away, and last night I started to get cramps in my right hand from blocking so many 'blue no matter who' sheep on twitter.
Your last sentence touched
my heart and made me smile. I do totally get the anger and frustration and also went to that place for a couple of hours last night, but staying there isn't constructive and is unhealthy for many body parts.
In politics the deck is always stacked against "the people" or outsiders. Frustrates the hell out of me that a nincompoop like Trump could navigate his way through the GOP and GE stacked decks. We know how he did it -- first a $66 million dollar personal bank account, but we'd figured out how to jump that hurdle a few election cycles ago -- but mostly by being in people's faces, taking no bs, and appealing to the baser instincts of a large swath of people, mostly Republicans ready and waiting to unleash their own uncouth speech and actions. That's not for us, but it's much harder to tap into and release the better angels in a majority.
I don't buy for a moment that Pete, Amy, Liz, and with one exception, all the other lower tier candidates were colluding with ObamaCo from day one. They were all in it to win. ObamaCo wanted Harris, and she was rightfully instructed first to knock out Biden. She landed a good punch, enough to drop his numbers by a few points and more importantly to bump her numbers up where Bernie and Warren were floating. Kamala did have a problem, a grating vocal quality that in particular turns off men. But it was Tulsi that landed the punch on Kamala from which she never recovered. (And why the DNC made sure that Tulsi wouldn't be invited to another debate.)
After that they just did to Bernie what they had done to him in 2016 as they waited to see which of the acceptable to them candidate emerged. By late last fall, Joe was it, but they had to let the process unfold until they could get him to SC. That's when "closing the deal" came into play, and ObamaCo (team effort because Obama is a rather poor negotiator) closed on Pete, Amy, and Bloomberg. They didn't have to consider closing with voters because those three had enough weight with those people that they would follow their leader.
Bernie's only power base is with people and this time, so far, there hasn't been enough of them to overcome the others. A wake-up call for me was the VT primary.
Yet, as he's always done, Bernie keeps putting one foot in front of the other. We can only hope his team understands what is needed from him in the Sunday debate and prepare him for it like he's never been prepared before.
closing the deal?
it's kinda hard to do that when someone has their foot in the way. Young people did not stay home. They weren't allowed to vote. Turnout was higher in many states and in especially where it looked like Bernie would win, but the tallies don't show that. Exit polls showed Bernie doing better than other candidates and yet.......
SO I am not putting this on Bernie. He has worked his tail off doing more rallies than other candidates combined.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Here’s what I’d like to know
What does “closing the deal” in 2019 even mean? Closing it with who? The voters?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
For Sanders it was closing
the deal with voters. In most states in 2016 he was north of 40%. A majority in many. A whopping 86% in VT. Yes, that was a two candidate race, but Sanders is the same person he was in '16, and all the other candidates are some version of HRC. Now appears that in '16 a large portion of Sanders' vote was merely anti-Hillary and Sanders hadn't closed the deal with. Otherwise, they would be back with Sanders this time as well.
Bernie needed to
at least reach out more to the moderate wing major pols to try to get them on board after wins in IA, NH and NV. But I understand he didn't. It might have helped overcome a win in SC by Biden, and close the deal. We'll never know though if the attempt wasn't made.
Bernie had the right policies, in my book, and good energy. Just not always a good strategy. And I was always nervous about his campaign relying so heavily on substantial turnout by younger voters. That has proven in the past to be a losing strategy. He needed to make better inroads with the older and AA voters. He could have scored big against Biden on SS/Medicare cuts, but he was too nice to Joe in the debates, and his staff tweeting out that info just didn't reach the people they needed to.
I don't like critiquing Sanders
or his campaign because he has almost single-handedly been carrying the whole weight of turning this country around. Occupy opened a public space where Bernie's dialogue could be heard by a wider audience but even that wasn't all that large. So, he took it upon himself to run for president when all the other elected Democratic officials deferred to HER. A few signed on with Bernie, but most are too dependent on the institutional party even those that have long essentially agreed with Sanders.
Sanders is dogged and has amazing stamina for a man of his age. However, even he would have preferred a younger person to carry this forward. Someone that could freshen up the case he makes. Unfortunately, the bench is rather empty. Clinton and Gingrich got rid of most of the remaining New Dealers in Congress and Schumer and Pelosi have kept most of them out since then. So, right now there is nobody else with a long enough and solid track record to step in.
Young people are able to discount Sanders age because what they hear from him is new to them. Old people (still mostly from the silent generation) look at him and see an old hippie and they didn't like young hippies when they were young.
Bernie has many AA supporters outside the south, but there's no way for him to break into the AA political machines in both the north and the south. The leaders are devoted to Clinton and Obama and those leaders control the voters in their distracts and states. Trump can say that the Democratic Party takes the AA vote for granted, but AAs can't hear the truth in that because it comes from Trump, a man who offers them nothing and lies about practically everything anyway.
Let's table a futher discussion on this until after the next debate and round of primary elections.
Right on Anja!
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
Goodness.
It's hard to believe so many here give credibility to the DNC and the press over their fellow citizens. Which is not to say I have an idealized notion of those fellow citizens. But if I needed help, I'd turn to a "deplorable" over a Democratic party apparatchik or a media talking head any day. And it's the DNC and its unfortunately subservient state parties that are counting the votes and the media corporations who are reporting it. Why are we giving these people the time of day, much less our faith?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
One more observation...
In the video where Joe starts off telling the construction worker that he's full of shit.... note that he tells the man "My sons hunt". My sons hunt, present tense. He forgot that one of them is not alive???
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Maybe he was thinking of Pete? /nt
that was clever
almost choked
continue
Biden also forgot his living son is a known drug abuser
Are they allowed to hunt? Is Bidenly knowingly allowing his son to hunt and bragging about it?
hunting for drugs
protected sons like Hunter
need not pay for their crimes
a lot like dear old dad
He also said that his deceased wife was a teacher
An article on counterpunch went into all of Biden's f-ups and that one was a doozy. He also says that his wife is a teacher now, but she wasn't a teacher that taught in the trenches. Oh no. She taught at some upper class white school. I know you are surprised right?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Oh God.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Good News, Bad News
The Good News is that it is possible that Biden could beat Trump. That is also the Bad News.
If Trump wins, at least we get another shot in for years. If Biden wins we are likely stuck with his VP or other fill-in for a total of eight years.
I see four years of Trump as better than eight of Biden-ish.
lesser of two evils
not much of a coice
Another goddamn Evil of Two Lessers
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
absolutely
you nailed it
ugly nails and
more ugly hammers
shite is getting friggin' old
and we are paying for it!
Now it's time to find alternatives ...
Have been postponing a Demexit until after my vote had been cast for Bernie, and now it is imperative to join the process of emptying out the Democratic Party, once an organization I believed in, and find a more worthy and productive outlet for effecting needed changes in our country.
So I'm starting with this ... https://www.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Political-Party
As for where to go, the Greens have always seemed a natural alternative to the Democrats, except for the fact that the Greens have been around for a long time, spinning their wheels, never gaining traction. I was surprised last night to see Chris Hedges bring up this fact in his interview with Nick Brana, founder and executive director of the Movement for a People’s Party. Upshot -- there are pockets of deep inertia within the Greens, little internal "clubs" with their own agendas. Which is a shame. Here is Hedges' interview with Brana. Would the American people be better served by a Movement for a People's Party? and, for anyone who might prefer it, an embedded video:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PA0alykB_o]
It's not a registered political party yet; it's a movement for a party. Check it out more thoroughly here: https://peoplesparty.org/
A review of the organization: https://www.influencewatch.org/political-party/movement-for-a-peoples-pa...
The Movement for a People's Party has been endorsed by Jimmy Dore, Stef Zamorano, Dr. Cornel West, Chris Hedges, Abby Martin, Tim Canova, Graham Elwood, Oliver Stone, Dele Balogun of DSA, Cindy Sheehan (who once gave me a great big hug), Al Rojas of UFW & AFL-CIO, Ron Placone ... among others.
And finally, Kim Iversen's thoughts on Demexiting and forming a third party, a populist party. She made this video last night --
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPxNm-olqx8]
Onward to greener pastures ...
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
More from Kim ...
Make Bernie VP:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlbOqc-NBW4 width:500 height:300]
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
that's both funny and sad
won't get joe past the trumpet methinks
Thanks for that video Azazello
just invaluable
Biden's lies need more exposure
Hasan does a great job showing the lies of Joe Biden and that tweet needs to go viral. Remember that Joe lied during the first two times he ran which Hasan covers here. Plus he had to drop out because of plagiarism which I don't think Joe has given up doing just yet.
Trump is going to have an easy win because all he will need to do is show the Hasan video, the videos from the past times Joe ran where the media was brutal. The many videos of Joe wanting to cut social security. His Iraq war speeches will be a big hit that Trump will use just like he went after Jew Bush and said his brother started the Iraq war. And of course the many times Joe has inappropriately touched women and kids and his wagging his fingers or poking them in people's chest. When asked to stop doing that he asked if the guy wanted to go outside. This wasn't the first time Joe wanted to do violence.
Joe Biden will get nowhere near the presidency. If he isn't replaced then Trump is a shoe in. I know. You know. The democrats know it. They are the only ones who don't care if that happens because Trump is doing things Obama could only dream of.
But just to show how far DK has jumped the shark:
Reality based community? lmao
Free college? Nope
Cancel student debt? HELL no because he wrote the damn bill that made it so people couldn't discharge it. Progressive though? Hell no and this show why DK is in the toilet.
Krystal on voting for BYE & DONE.
Hey... I wonder how many seats the democrats would lose if Biden does become president. To take the senate you neeeedd... VOTERS. Independents were the biggest group of Bernie supporters and they will not vote for Joe. No way. No HOW.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGhCxQLd6nk&list=TLPQMTAwMzIwMjC1OPUaOhP...
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
the last thing biden's handlers want
is more exposure
Sunday's 'debate' is being
phased into a pre-recorded
political ad for the benefit of
Dementia a feature not a bug
It gets worse and undeniable before the convention and Joe throws his votes to, probably, Clinton.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
I'm concerned
about whom Biden would choose as a running mate. Biden is such a weak candidate, and elderly, that the running mate may wind up being the candidate. But I can't think of anyone the Party would allow other than Kamala Harris, perhaps, with the suggestion that a few women would vote for her. But she proved to be so unpopular that it would be a stretch to try to convince the public that she made a difference.
First they need to pass a rule
at the convention regarding candidates that drop out before the election. Apparently the Republicans have a rule, it makes sense to have one, particularly when you're running 70-something candidates. So expect that to pass.
Who will he pick? We should start an office pool. I'm thinking something outrageous, like Mitt Romney. Run an actual Republican as the nominee. That way you're sure to beat Trump!
Seriously, it will be someone utterly dreadful, who would have had no chance in the primaries.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
rule changers
tend to fall into the category of
changed rulers
we've the numbers to overcome
this is a good time
Deval Patrick as VP
I'd bet on it.
Or Kamala.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Bernie made a huge mistake by not dropping out today
just watch the end of Sander’s live speech where he very foolishly did not concede. At the end of the speech, he stated that Donald Trump must be defeated. I agree with him.
Yay for party unity!
Yeah the hell with letting the primary play out and letting people vote for who they want. Let's just call the whole thing over and get to the election soonest so that Trump can win again. Great plan.
Since they are going to continue telling that lie then I hope Tulsi will take the next 4 years and works on creating a third party. Bernie votes with democrats much more than Joe Manchin does. And he doesn't cross the isle to vote with republicans like Manchin does, but boy do they ever give Joe a pass for doing that. He vote for Brett Effing Kavanoph for gawd's sake. Yeah I don't know how to spell his name with auto fill...
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
The comments about Bernie supporters coming from the Daily Kos
Are not surprising, and usually when you bring them here, I can shrug it off. But today, when I'm feeling as bruised as I am now, they feel more like a punch in the face.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Their hatred and disdain for Bernie and us is off the chart
I too usually laugh at what they say because they are so damn funny, but today and last night they were beyond awful. I remember when telling people who you disagree with to fuck off got you an immediate ban, but not any longer. Tons of recs and the ones that do get hidden don't give anyone an automatic time out.
But when comments that say f'ck Tulsi and even worse are not hidden but rec'd well you know what that shows.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I really never want to know what they are saying . . .
. . . . over at DKos. I had decided to leave even before the "decree." Realizing that they were censoring opinion.
Marilyn
"Make dirt, not war." eyo
Same here Marilyn
Just leave them to their vitriol over there.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Don't let them get you down
remember that KosPeeps have a batting average in single digits. If not for their sexism trumping their racism in '07-'08 they would have been with HER for two losing campaigns.
Back in 2003 KosPeeps were all in with the "just like Ike" candidate, Wes Clark, and couldn't grasp the mega-differences between the two men and 1952 versus 2004.
forgetting the snark tag
can be damaging to fragile minds
just sayin'
Why would anybody take
"helpful hints" from KosPeeps? Would wager good money that they said, "Trump made a big mistake going after McCain." Well, too be fair they would have had a lot of company on that one; all of them wrong. In '04 they were really big on Edwards for VP. A shame that Cheney sliced and diced him in their VP debate.
Bernie didn't make a big mistake; not for himself or his supporters and voters. He's just being Bernie and has never and would never pass on an opportunity to go head-to-head in a televised debate against a conservadem or Republican.
Im not taking their helpful hints
I'm showing their stupidity.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Sorry -- that was a rhetorical question
and not directed at you. Guess somebody has to report current KosPeeps doings. (Since getting banned, iirc in 2011, I've not once visited. Gave him enough traffic in the early years and should have left in 2003, 2004, etc., but posting diaries there was so easy and gave me an opportunity to talk about things that interested me and often a few other people.)
this, from Caitlin
because underneath the senile uncle there's the real Biden
maybe this is the point
dementia joe is less scary?
tender loving support for old fuchs
we've all got some senior to feel sorry for
'cept for me, cause they's all gone
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