Bernie's binding contract. Bernie, cover America's ass.
It's a simple concept. Bernie, if you ever concede the democratic nomination, trade it for a legally binding written contract with DNC that you will be the exclusive alternate nominee in the general election in the event that Joe can't or won't perform his duties.
As I have mentioned before, I am hoping against hope that Bernie will overwhelm the cheating typhoon of the establishment. But it's necessary to have a plan B when/if that doesn't work.
Two things are apparent from the trajectory of the primary thus far,
1) The establishment and the media are 100% all in for Joe Biden.
2) Trump would nuke Joe in a general election.
My conclusion is that the establishment will have to drag Joe across finish line then swap him out with Bloomberg/Buttigieg, Booker/Kamala, Hillary/Bolton, etc..
It will be stressful for them if Bernie drags out the fight through the convention because that extends the window of time during which Joe may collapse literally or figuratively, and be forced to withdraw leaving Bernie as the nominee by default.
In their anxious effort to get safely past the substitution step they will pressure Bernie to concede.
It is at this point that Bernie needs to get in writing (under some onerous $ penalty) that he is the exclusive alternate nominee if Joe ceases to be the nominee for any reason. They will refuse, of course.
(This will force the DNC to use the nuclear option which will obliterate the party,
which is to piss in the faces of the voters and select someone other than Joe or Bernie.)
On edit : After typing and thinking it occurs to me that the most likely route the DNC will take is to just throw the election to Trump. They have painted themselves into a hell of corner by backing Biden. And the least messy way out is to find a subtle way to lose to Trump. In 4 more years they can get right back to the business of rigging the primary again.
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The DNC doesn't care
if Biden lose to Trump. To them, that is preferable to dealing with Bernie as the nominee.
Agreed. They don't care. They make money as the McResistance.
You came full circle.
It would be nice if Bernie could do that - get that in writing, but I agree, the dimwit party will not allow it. The party is going to implode anyway unless Bernie is the nominee. Yes, many will vote blue no matter who, but Herr Drumpf will win, in the end if it's Joementia.
Listen to this week's Intercept podcast, Aja Monet and Astra Taylor have made me feel more calm about the whole thing. It may not do it for you, but give it a try.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Yep. I did. I guess if Bernie were to demand such a thing it
would make it harder for them to gracefully substitute another neoliberal. But they would still have other options like letting Biden lose to Trump. They keep making money as long as Bernie isn't President.
Thanks for the link, I agree with a commenter on the situation
Commenter named TopCat
"I've read various takes on the coalescing of Dem "centrists" (aka Republicans) around Biden:
3.) They know he's senile but they're going to run him to ensure a Trump victory, since in fact it's all political theater and all of them work for the 1%. The added benefit is they can continue to play "the resistance" and the media spectacle will both keep the country divided and jack up ratings ergo revenue for the "news" shows, which are also owned by the 1%. Meanwhile, they continue to strip mine the country and pocket the profits while siphoning off the TRILLIONS of $ funneled to the endless war machine. The masses of humanity in America and the rest of the world are only so many head of cattle to these mass murdering monumental thieves. We exist only to provide cheap labor, mindless consumers of disposable crap, and fodder for the military machine."
Great comment!!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
It wouldn't surprise me --
if Joe stepped down for "health reasons" (i.e. given his current illness) before the convention and the delegates at the convention were asked to support Hillary Clinton. Of course it wouldn't work and we'd get a resounding Donald Trump victory; you don't switch candidates so late like that and expect victory. And everyone would ask: "why didn't you all support Amy Klobuchar, who has been all along of sound mind and body?" But they don't care.
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
Trump would give the DNC everything they want plus a bonus
They can bitch and moan about him and evade taking any of the blame for four years. American politics has become a dog and pony show. Every 8 years or so, the two parties switch which animal they will perform as to keep the proles believing We the People are the ring masters in this highly choreographed shit-show.
Yes, and if Biden loses to Trump
they can blame Bernie and try to discredit in advance any lefties that come forward in 2024
"When my wife makes Harvard beets they taste like they went to Brooklyn College. "-Henny Youngman
Expect the pressure after the next primary
OK Bernie this is your chance after selling out to HRCheater last time. Are you willing to look past this primary and do the right thing for America? The Democratic party cheats, cheats and then cheats again. They are addicted to cheating. They decided that no way would Bernie be the candidate - they would do whatever it took to defeat him. They were in a panic when it looked like Super Tuesday would cinch his nomination so they came up with The Plan. At the last minute the other candidates threw their support to Biden with no chance for Bernie to actually run against just him. Then they closed polling places in Bernie districts. Then they cheated on the ballot counting, see Lee Camp on exit polls. In any rational universe MA and TX would have gone to Bernie and someone would be in jail. The discrepancy was 8% in MA. I live in MA and we were strongly for Bernie. I heard no ads for Joe and saw no visits from him. WTF? In 2016 the same thing happened. In the Republican primary all the primaries were consistent with the exit polls. Not so for the Dems, and all the rigged primaries went for HRCheater.
Bernie- do not drop out if you value democracy and love America. Run a vigorous campaign right up to the convention. Stand your ground on debate rules. Insist that the other remaining candidate be allowed to participate, that's right, Tulsi. Do not fall for the line that party unity is the most important factor. What if Biden has a cerebral hemorrhage between now and the convention? Or contracts the Coronavirus? Don't give in.
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
I don't think Bernie will give up
but just remember that his collegiality seems to be more important to him than fighting Joementia.
This has to be more than just about Bernie, as the women in the Intercepted podcast indicated. We have to take it beyond Bernie - not me, us, remember?
It is in our hands. WE must be ready to fight and fight hard.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Can you feel it?
There is something in the vibrosphere where people's hope is PALPABLE. People are holding on to so much hope that Bernie can pull it off tonight because there is so much despair in the country because things are not working out for us and hope is all they have left. The despair is because we know that the 1% don't give a rat's ass about us or whether we live or die. So many of us were left behind or thrown away when Obama turned his back on his supporters and just made sure that the banks would continue to stand and would get to continue to rip us off.
If Biden wins tonight because it has been rigged for him to not many people will see the powers behind the curtain hand's on it and will accept the results. But I am just flummoxed by the people who just 10 short years ago voted for Obama and universal health care, but are now saying NO WE CAN'T have it because we don't know how to pay for it. Bullshit. We cannot afford not to do it and especially now with the corona virus wreaking havoc.
Side note. If you search for berniesander.com it takes you to Biden's ActBlue page where you will find these lies.
Maybe not, but Joe sure does have lots of people from those industries either supporting him with money or advice. I think the whole statement is bunk. Does anyone think Joe would appoint Dimon because he would be the best person for the job or because Dimon and his friends have been pouring money into Joe's campaign coffers?
Yeah me too or me neither.
Welp folks good luck today. I hope everyone that wants to vote is able to without waiting hours in line. Lot riding on today.
Fixed spelling.
@snoopydawg That website is
That website is missing the S in Sanders. Or are you pointing it out because someone else nabbed it before Bernie's team did? of course the domain registrant is hidden.
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You're right that they left the S off
I just find it strange that anything connected to Bernie and fundraising goes to a Biden ActBlue site.
But what I don't find strange is how Biden is not telling the truth about where his money is coming from.
@snoopydawg It's pretty
It's pretty standard in the "corporate world" to secure domain names that are spelled incorrectly, like that one. Obviously Bernie's team didn't think about it, and they let it get away. Maybe we just need to make people aware of it, and spell Bernie's last name correctly. Vigilance!
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Obama Staged a Coup
Don't be so sure Biden can't win vs. Trump given the collapse of the economy and the coronavirus pandemic.
Biden, even as a confused doddering dullard, can be propped up by the MSM to head a puppet regime for Obama. I mean that's been the hidden story the past couple of weeks. Of course, it gets no play. MSM mentioned the phone calls that Obama made to Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg and left it at that. Anybody think Obama didn't call Jim Clyburn?
Hillary's Trojan Horse (Bloomberg) failed spectacularly and betrayed Clintons Inc. for a promise to head up the World Bank and/or whatever deals he cut for himself.
Warren got thrown a shit pie re. any rewards for an endorsement. No VP or Secretary of the Treasury for her. Better to have Bain Capital's Managing Director Deval Patrick for VP and JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon for Secretary of the Treasury. That'll show Warren the priorities of IdPol according to Obama/Biden.
The only monkey wrench that can screw up Obama's victory over Hillary is if Biden pops a few more brain aneurisms leading up to the nomination and/or November elections.
Why would Obama want to be the de facto President?
He is already making millions and playing golf as much as he wants. He obviously did not run for President because he genuinely wanted to do good for the country. He ran to cash in and he is cashing in.
Power intoxicates the powerful
Obama didn't have to make those phone calls but he did. And he probably made a lot more calls than just to the candidates that dropped out. And had more than a few conference calls to boot.
Don't forget that the top dog in this DNC is his guy Perez.
Too many people get obsessed with Hillary. Yea, she's part of the power elite but she's fallen and can't get up aside from making an ass out of herself every so often in vain egotistical pursuit of being remembered and thought of as still being a player. More and more folks in the Democratic Party elite are realizing now if they didn't before that Bernie did better against her than he is against Biden because of how widely hated she was and still remains.
IMO, Obama wants the big enchilada--striking a "Grand Bargain."
Today, Dems are the Party of fiscal conservatism. (Remember Dick Cheney saying - "Deficits Don't Matter.") Even NYT finance/budget writer David Leonhardt finally admitted to this being the current state of affairs, at least since WJC's Administration, if not since Carter's.
There's reporting that Pelosi will be certain to push for a deficit 'trigger' if there is a stimulus package. IOW, she can't let loose of "PayGo," even in a major national emergency when a stimulus package may save lives. Phew!
(Not to say that both Repubs and Dems won't consider using any stimulus spending as an excuse to slash entitlements--after the November election. Totally plausible, I would think.)
Also, will be reposting excerpts regarding O's, the DP Establishment's, and Biden's quest to dismantle the social safety net by striking a GB with John Boehner.
That agenda has only been driven gone underground--not dissipated. (IMO)
Soon, will be posting the transcript, or video of NH Dem Senator Jeanne Shaheen reiterating her support of the Bowles-Simpson Catfood Commission's Proposal to slash entitlements.
(this was quite recent--in an interview with FNC Host Bret Baier this past December 2019)
Heard an interesting theory, recently. Regarding FSC, Republican (Daddy) John Sununu opined that FSC is actually running for VP (Biden's), so she can take over, later.
I've been thinking about 'why' the DP PtB would risk trying to install Uncle Joe, and, have to wonder if they're actually doing this expecting Dr Jill Biden to take over (under the radar)--taking orders from the O and C Cabal regarding governing.
Just a thought . . . and a scary one, at that!
Have a good one.
Mollie
“This above all: to thine own self be true
And it must follow, as the night the day
Thou canst not then be false to any man . . ."
~~William Shakespeare
“Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then, I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving.”
~~Author Unknown
“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.”
~~George Bernard Shaw
Irish Dramatist & Socialist (1856-1950)
WhiskerDocs
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Update: Just heard Dems nixed idea of temporary Payroll
Tax rollback/cut. (per MSNBC)
Figures.
Of course, some have suggested that since the cohort most affected--seniors--mostly don't have payroll taxed levied on them (if already retired). So, might be a better idea to send out a check to older Americans (ie., a so-called 'targeted' stimulus) who are most likely to have a critical need for extra cash to offset COVID-19 costs of treatment, testing, vaccines, RX's, etc.
Still trying to find out exactly what Medicare will pay. Guess I'll just have to call them, since I'm turning up conflicting info. Can't verify what CMS Administrator Verma said yesterday. Will post, if/when I can verify her statements.
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
2d Update - (If Pence can be believed) No one will pay
deductibles or co-pays to be tested for COVID-19. (Private or publicly insured.)
Will have to clarify if that includes all tests and treatment, including RX's.
Mr M read that CVS is waiving RX delivery fee. Gonna call locally, and verify.
M
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Medicare & Coronavirus
Received an email yesterday from Medicare. The subject line was "Take preventive action now against COVID-19." There is a link to a Medicare website in the email where specific details are listed. I'm going to copy/paste the pertinent info you're asking about:
There's a lot more information on that page. Worth it to read it all.
Not necessary.
And not particularly desirable, for the Dems. Having Trump in there would be better for them than Biden. This isn't 1984--America could tolerate Reagan's dementia because things were not so dire (although we shouldn't have). Biden as President would probably destroy whatever was left of their reputation, might even make them look as bad as Trump. America is not kind to weak leaders (again, Reagan was the big exception).
Way easier for them to switch them out at the election--maybe Biden could plead health problems or something. Although I suppose they might put in a charismatic VP and make that person the face of the new administration. I'm not sure that would work as well for them, though (and who would it be anyway? Who do they have that has a strong base of support/credibility other than Obama?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Yup. The fix is in just like last time. Glad I didn't donate
nearly as much money this time around. It has always been the entire Establishment against Bernie. Trump will destroy #JoeMentia and that's AOK with the HRC/DNC/TurdWay cabal.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
I don't think so...
Not a chance if he doesn't have the required delegates IMO.
Here's my suspicion. Fractional voting rigged by the DNC.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fob-AGgZn44]
more here:
http://blackboxvoting.org/
The real question is, "What democracy?"
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Last night I started to watch
the PBS special on Ken Burns. Tom Hanks, the host, started off telling us something about American freedom, democracy, and liberty, while showing the statue in NY harbor. I curtly said to the teevee - what freedom, democracy and liberty? Those are not part of the American Experience anymore.
The propaganda - it's biting.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
It's pretty enlightening. The mere existence of software that
allows you to specify the voting results in advance is damning. And the fact that the algorithm blends the fraudulent votes into the numbers a little bit at a time proves that the intent is to do it without being noticed.
We live in a messed up world.
makes you wonder about the 40 something thumb drives
They found in TX doesn't it?
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
As I've suggested before
Sometime in the '80s companies began using computers to assess the "productivity" of their employees. One had to meet a certain page or time or cost count, as compared to earlier situations where the costs or complex qualities of unique projects were based on the actual work and skills needed to do it.
Very little needed to be changed from calculations like that (now undoubtedly in place at A-monopoly and countless other corporations) to using the same "productivity" predictions, demands, and calculations to "counting" votes.
Invisibility is built in from the start.
Bernie must have at least accepted this all along
The plan is obvious - fix the nomination for Biden, make who they really want, someone unelectable (Hillary? John Bolton? Kathleen Kennedy?) his running mate, then have Joe resign in early February. Abra Kaddabra!
Bernie must have suspected they would try something like this - fix the primary, throw the election, run a fascist as VP, whatever circumstances seem the most likely to work - therefore his plan all along was not to win the Presidency, it was to bring about the demise of the quisling Democratic Party as quickly as possible by forcing it to reveal itself.
If that is his real plan it is succeeding.
On to Biden since 1973
agreed doh
like last time around, bern's process is to expose the ruse
for what it is. Not to fight it or blow it up, but to show the
true nature of the beast for us with eyes to see.
It's up to us to change the way our voices no longer count.
question everything
They will never got for it.
Apologies for pissing in your wheaties, but the "powers that be", wouldn't do anything to allow Bernie to win and move on to the GE.
Here's MSM pundit @JoeNBC talking up Biden's mental decline
But somehow we "BernieBro's" are responsible for spreading a malicious Trump supported rumor!
Here's #CreepyJoe telling a voter their full of shit.
Think for a moment, Saint Obama bailed out the banks, and creepyjoe just sat by and watched it all happen. Like CreepyJoe said, "Nothing will fundamentally change".
I'm not going to stop supporting Bernie, but, I am realistic, they are never going to let him win. And when they finally fuck him over, that's the time for the YellowVest movement to pick up in earnest the US. But, we're not ready...
Yellow Vests costs money, taking off from work to protest, costs money. Placards cost money...
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Biden threatened to slap his horse's ass
Kos wrote about this and said that Bernie's team is trying to make this something big. Just what did they actually say?
Wow then that is some hit job ain't it?
And oh look. This from the site that attacks Trump for his war
on Julian Assange and Wikileakson the press:Biden did did not say he would veto MFA, but he did say he would look at how to pay for it because it's going to raise taxes on the middle class, but not the upper class right Joe?
And he said that it would take away from any other legislation that congress would want to pass. So he's basically saying no he would not pass it, but the centrists are saying no he did not say that. Pretzeled minds abound.
@snoopydawg If they are going to
If they are going to serve up pretzel logic, they should be required to serve beer with that!
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More pretzel logic
Kos on why Warren shouldn't endorse Bernie.
Oh but Bernie didn't use HIS full power to get his supporters to vote for Her right? Right?
This is going viral:
Hiding Behind False and Misleading Claims, Biden Refuses to Commit to Signing Medicare for All Bill as President
Ha ha look at Booker while he is listening to Joe
at the end he just hangs his head and shakes it. He said that he didn't think Biden was all there, but then he endorsed him anyway. Now it looks like he is having second thoughts.
Hey guys, Biden will get the banker's band back together again. Yay. more bailouts for the banks, more tax cuts for the rich, more nada for the 99%.
#DemExit Trending #1 on Twitter
Do Not Go Silent into that Dark Night . . .
Same friggin' party. Convince me otherwise:
That would never happen.
The DNC would never deal with Bernie. He's there because he has a sizeable base. THE DNC feels it can corral us because we have no choice but to rally around whatever misbegotten donor magnet they put up. But they f'd that up by lashing out at us 'Bernie Bros" in 2016 , us pointing out the thumb on the scale debates, the clumsy favoritism.
TOP is a perfect example. The 2016 purge was the final transformation into a party megaphone. I think the Idpol was a tactic to silence dissent early on and now has turned full speed to support the candidate mode, they have the delegates, no dissent....the point of the purge in the last election. It take a great deal of arrogance to choose to go down that same road again.
It's time to vote for someone you believe in. Write your candidate if you have to. Otherwise it's just a waste.
Plan B is revolution
Trump's second term will probably be a sort of Dark Ages in between.
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.