"Nobody likes him"

When will this woman finally go away?

In the doc, you're brutally honest on Sanders: "He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It's all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it." That assessment still hold?

Yes, it does.

If he gets the nomination, will you endorse and campaign for him?

I'm not going to go there yet. We're still in a very vigorous primary season. I will say, however, that it's not only him, it's the culture around him. It's his leadership team. It's his prominent supporters. It's his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women. And I really hope people are paying attention to that because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted, [he] seems to really be very much supporting it.

First of all, thank you again Hillary. Everytime you speak you make Bernie look good.
I expect a small bump in Bernie's numbers, like when you trashed Tulsi.

Secondly, have you checked the numbers recently?

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As for her "screw unity", well, it shows how lost the Democratic Party has become. Note the comments to this tweet.

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Hillary's smear deserves its own location.

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Two women who would cut your throat
Don't turn your back

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@gjohnsit  

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@gjohnsit

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

@Bollox Ref
and was throwing Hillary softball questions.

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@gjohnsit
I'm sorry but all in the name of good journalism.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@gjohnsit

Do I have to?

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones." - Fiver

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

@humphrey link

I’m posting this to show the Daily Kos community that there are a lot of us here who are loyal Hillary supporters and want nothing to do with Bernie or his campaign. Maybe that’s better suited for Twitter, where I am more active these days, but I see a bunch of familiar user names starting to be more active here as the Iowa caucus nears. I’m not a fan of Bernie, but I know he has a vigorous and dedicated campaign and a real shot at this, and that motivates me to support Kamala first, and now Biden.

I noticed a lot of "Bernie Bros are the problem comments".
1) This can't be taken in any way other than STFU
2) Everyone who supports Bernie is a bro
3) The "toxicity and smears" from the Bernie bros includes a) telling the truth, and b) denying smears of Bernie and his supporters

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@gjohnsit that cesspool. Although occasionally I lurk to remind myself why.

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@humphrey
and only to find out what the center-right and IDPol people are saying.
Otherwise I have no reason to go there.

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@gjohnsit

More Bernie supporters voted for Hillary than Hillary supporters voted for Obama. This is a fact.

BTW the kids threw Zephyr Teachout under the bus last night. Is there no one who is safe from the centrists? And have you seen what they write about Tulsi there? If it had been said about Hillary they would have been banned the minute they hit submit. As always it's the f'cking hypocrisy!

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

@snoopydawg They were the Hillary “Bernie Bros”, except they actually existed and self identified as such. Remember what PUMA stood for? Party Unity My Ass. Remember how we had to handle them with care and let them rage and do mean and nasty shit because HER lost a fair (as far as I know) primary after getting quite nasty, hanging on way after she’d lost and then barely did any work for Obama.

Sometimes I feel like this is something I dreamt. I hardly heard it mentioned in 2016 and again now. But man, you hear Bernie Bro.

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The only way Joe Biden is “going to be like FDR” is that he will die in office and leave a shitty vice president as a replacement.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

They were wicked little gits weren't they? Now they are supporting ByeDone, Harris, Amy and Pete who are all centrists and not Bernie.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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Sheer amount of bitterness!

Bernie: 37 stumps for Her
Her: 8 stumps for Obama

Lets get this record out. Bitter two bit has been.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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that it's led me to believe that maybe it's all some elaborate set-up for some actually clever thing down the road.

But that's probably not true. Just because they're really out to get you doesn't mean you're NOT paranoid.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones." - Fiver

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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I hope repubs call Hunter and his dad to the hearings and we get to hear about all the grifting Biden and son did. I'm thinking that if they don't want to get to the truth then this is just being rigged to derail Bernie. I am not the only saying this.

Vote Blue No Matter Who!! Unless your Her.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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Krystal and Saagar are on fire today.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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@humphrey

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@humphrey

Now that is saying something!

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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@humphrey

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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to the woodshed on her claims to be a standard bearer for women and the arbiter and judge of the definition of sexism.

She is, in fact, a terrible sexist.

The book is titled "False Choices: The Faux Feminism of Hillary Rodham Clinton" by Liza Featherstone and a group of other feminist writers.

I loved Bernie's reply when asked about her comments on not being liked.... "on a good day, my wife likes me..."

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

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Hillary Clinton Candidly Criticizes Bernie Sanders In New Documentary

so, as we would expect, her friends will think her vitriol is actually statesmanship.

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pre-adolescent nincompoop?
perhaps I regress

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Let's try to help each other
find a better way.

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@QMS

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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Both videos are must watch.

The first video shows how Hillary cannot accept reality. She has talked herself into believing that she had no role in her losing to Trump.
"Of course I take responsibility for my loss...except I'm blaming everyone else for it anyway."

But then in the general Obama took the bank's money too so he really doesn't have room to talk.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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someone called Nobody likes Bernie, so that's something.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

@Bollox Ref I wonder if she is who Hillary was referring to?

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@humphrey

Nobody must be one of the most common names in the U.S.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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@Bollox Ref

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones." - Fiver

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

Selected excerpts from his Guardian op-ed.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/21/hillary-clinton-be...

I worked for Hillary Clinton. Her attacks on Bernie Sanders are a big mistake

Because of his personal connection to the Clintons and our belief that electing the first woman president was a worthy cause, we joined millions of Democrats in defending and promoting Clinton during the 2016 race.

In the intervening years, we have very publicly reconsidered the single-minded intensity of our Clinton advocacy and apologized for exacerbating divisions between Clinton and Sanders voters. In the process, we have come to realize the extent to which the term Bernie bro marginalizes and erases the voices of millions of people of color and women who are part of the Sanders-inspired “Not me. Us” movement.

Here is the irony: as we began to embrace #NotMeUs and express support for Sanders, a cadre of Sanders haters began trolling and harassing us with the same venom that they attribute to so-called Bernie bros. They impugned our motives and character, called us traitors and sellouts, and mobbed our Twitter threads. It was a disconcerting awakening to the hypocrisy of those who slam Sanders supporters as a bunch of sexist young white males, then engage in identical behavior to those they criticize.

For Clinton to come out rhetorical guns blazing against Sanders weeks before primary voting begins reflects misplaced priorities on the part of the Clinton camp and an unfortunate willingness to amplify destructive myths about Sanders and his supporters. We cannot sit back while the Democratic party establishment tries to minimize and tear down the mass movement Sanders has helped build. That includes the Obamas, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden and other Democratic leaders who over the past two decades have proven unable (or unwilling) to stem a rising and emboldened right wing in America

I just picked out parts but the whole article is worth a read.

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I'm telling you, from the bottom of my heart, we do. We have so much to look forward to ... we have to stand with each other, hold each other up, move together into the future that we will make." -- Hillary Rodham Clinton, Feb. 27, 2016.

Don't tell me she was lying about that too!

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saw that!"

@humphrey

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I don't want Trump to win, but I do want the establishment Dems to lose due to their cheating and undemocratic practices in the primary. And I will do whatever I can to help that happen.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Edit to add: click on image. I saw this video earlier on twitter but my google fu only turned up a facebook link, nothing from youtube directly. The facebook link plays, but doesn't look right on post...

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@peachcreek

I think it was an older show I watched, but you're right that she was impressed by how hard he was working for Hillary.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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one day Warren, then Biden, then Hillary. Next...probably Obama. He's already "warned" against going left but if I read this right he'll be sharper in his anti-Bernie comments soon, possibly tomorrow.

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@Shahryar

Almost nobody is surprised by the hits at Bernie that keeps coming. From ignoring him for over a year to now smearing him every chance they can. But don't forget that Obama already got his jab in when he said that he would stop Bernie from getting the nod.

Bernie's win would show everyone that it was Herheinous herself that people rejected. And Bernie could show how Obama folded to the PTB just because he had always planned on doing it.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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great stuff gj

Isn't what Hillary is doing called projecting?

I am sure Bernie feels like I do, that I had totally failed in life, if it was HER-> circle of friends that I had to get to like me. F them. I'd rather be a hermit.

Good work to all the posters too, bunch of great stuff here!

Thanks!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

During the 2016 campaign, despite the polls, I always said that Hillary would lose to Trump. My reason - Hillary was repugnant to middle America. This disgust runs very deep. The disgust, not just dislike, but disgust, has been growing. We were warned decades ago from people who knew the Clintons when Bill was Governor of Arkansas. I got converted during the 2016 election, but there was plenty of evidence for decades before that, I just preferred to ignore it as inconsequential, as my loyalty was to the Democratic party as a better alternative than the Republican party. Today I want nothing to do with the Democrat party and have registered as unaffiliated in MA. The Republicans are worse, but I am completely disgusted with the idea of supporting the lesser of two evils. I'm done with that. I am a proud part of the real progressive community, including C99, of course.
Unfortunately, the Democrat party is the only horse to ride for Progressives, like Bernie, today. However, the disgust for Hillary still runs deep and wide and her actions confirm this feeling of disgust. It's clearly all about her and more than that it's all about her nasty vitriol. I have to believe that overall she and her actions are just irrelevant and only deepen the American disgust with her.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

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@The Wizard
In fact, I'd go so far as to say they find her deplorable.

My reason - Hillary was repugnant to middle America. This disgust runs very deep. The disgust, not just dislike, but disgust, has been growing. 

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

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@Centaurea

by the far right and the left.

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Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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by six of Her favorite lickspittles.

No sooner, unfortunately.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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wants money. Power. Money from donors. To be shitty rich if he would just go away.
Only the little people like, or love, him.
As usual, Hillary leaves out details and clarifications, despite being an infamous "wonk".

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billion dollar bubble. Actually, she knows that she is full of shit and is desperately trying to gaslight anyone who still isn't paying attention.

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I don't want Trump to win, but I do want the establishment Dems to lose due to their cheating and undemocratic practices in the primary. And I will do whatever I can to help that happen.

@entrepreneur
perhaps her gold plated cranium
no longer fires on all cylinders
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Let's try to help each other
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@QMS shameless and easily debunked claims. It shows that they are desperate and nervous.

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I don't want Trump to win, but I do want the establishment Dems to lose due to their cheating and undemocratic practices in the primary. And I will do whatever I can to help that happen.