ByeDone: the context of the record player statement

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You have heard of him giving a totally OT rambling response wherein he suggests parents have their children listen to the record player at night? It's getting as much play as his "We never put children in cages" statement out their in MSM world.

While the latter quote is a lie, the record player gaffe (?) is even more problematic.

ABC's Linsey Davis : “What responsibility do you think that Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country?”

Biden: Well, they have to deal with the — look, there’s institutional segregation in this country. And from the time I got involved, I started dealing with that. Red-lining banks, making sure that we are in a position where — look, you talk about education. I propose that what we take is those very poor schools, the Title I schools, triple the amount of money we spend from 15 to $45 billion a year. Give every single teacher a raise, the equal raise to getting out — the $60,000 level.

Number two, make sure that we bring in to help the teachers deal with the problems that come from home. The problems that come from home, we need — we have one school psychologist for every 1,500 kids in America today. It’s crazy.

The teachers are — I’m married to a teacher. My deceased wife is a teacher. They have every problem coming to them. We have — make sure that every single child does, in fact, have 3-, 4-, and 5-year-olds go to school. School. Not daycare. School. We bring social workers in to homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children.

It’s not want they don’t want to help. They don’t — they don’t know quite what to do. Play the radio, make sure the television — excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the — the — make sure that kids hear words. A kid coming from a very poor school — a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time they get there.

ABC's Linsey Davis: "Thank you, Mr. Vice President."

But ByeDone is not finished yet.

Biden: There’s so much we — no, I’m going to go like the rest of them do, twice over, okay?

Because here’s the deal. The deal is that we’ve got this a little backwards. And by the way, in Venezuela, we should be allowing people to come here from Venezuela. I know Maduro. I’ve confronted Maduro.

Number two, you talk about the need to do something in Latin America. I’m the guy that came up with $740 million to see to it those three countries, in fact, changed their system so people don’t have to chance to leave. You’re all acting like we just discovered this yesterday. Thank you very much.

That's some first rate crazy talk word salad right there.

Yeah, he'll definitely make mince meat out of Drumph.

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Now, he's just daft.

He's been put in here as a placeholder who can be trusted by the PTB to release his delegates to the (real) anointed one at the Convention. Every time he opens his mouth, he's playing recorded messages from the right-center of the Democratic Party, circa 1980. Jukebox Joe.

They really could lose the next one to Trump.

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@leveymg Losing is looking more and more probable every day. Nothing to indicate that things are going to change unless there are some real stunning victories or losses in the early primaries.

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But I think his deceased wife should get a raise already. I mean how many teachers do you know who are that dedicated they choose to teach in the afterlife?

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@Anja Geitz Wouldn’t expect the dead ones to get anything better.

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@Dr. John Carpenter You don't have to pay them. Although their interest in broadening their students' minds may not have the same meaning...

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Cream of nowhere...

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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@Anja Geitz

I was hoping someone pulled that out of his statement. Awe Joe... you had a great run of screwing us at every turn you could and now it's time for you to go and enjoy time with your family.

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@snoopydawg

Even in his blatering word salad of a response, the tense just screamed at me. A bit pathetic, don't you think, watching these poor lying bastards having to think fast on their feet. Joe shoulda called up Donna B. and had the questions sent to him before the debate. Amirite?

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@Anja Geitz Probably would not have helped him with his grammar.

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@Anja Geitz idling away her time, floating on a cloud 24/7, assuming they have time in that realm.

And I would imagine the classroom discipline is better than here. Doubtful too teachers have to worry about the low pay on that side of the equation.

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Someone once asked me back when I was in my thirties, if there was a heaven, what would it look like for me? The first image that came to mind was the library the cursed Prince gave to Belle in Beauty and the Beast, where inside each book were the answers to all my questions about life.

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Now that I'm, *cough*, a little older, the only thing I'd change in my answer would be to add a world class French chef and a very large dinner table.

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@Anja Geitz

I imagine myself walking down the stairs and when I turn left there is my family to meet me as well as my dawgs...

I love the soundtrack to the movie. Track 7.

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@snoopydawg

Kinda circular in a way. The Garden of Eden and what not. Apparently our answers are supposed to reveal our true nature. Not sure if that's true, but it seems everyone's answer is very different. My Sister, who suffers from chronic pain, envisioned her heaven as a place where the clouds are the comfiest chairs she ever sat in.

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@Anja Geitz
I'd trade that French chef for my eating my Mom's home cooking again.
I'd even accept the "Don't Slouch!"

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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And the great thing about heaven, no dishes to wash!

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of both Theresa May and Angela Merkel?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-accidentally-calls-san...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mix-up-biden-confuses-theresa-ma...

https://theweek.com/articles/858498/what-take-democratic-establishment-a...

These are not mere flubs or gaffes, as some articles refer to them. We all have slips of the tongue sometimes. They are now a pattern indicating confusion and/or mental lapses.

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"in fact, changed their system so people don’t have to chance to leave" - ya know, even if they really, really want to. I mean, let's make sure all those people who had "regime change" done to their countries, never, ever get "to chance to leave".

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@longtalldrink He's giving us his g-d honest prescription for managing "refugee crises": "I mean, let's make sure all those people who had "regime change" done to their countries, never, ever get "to chance to leave".

Repeated lapses into honesty are a sure sign a politician is ready to be sent to the farm. As Harlan Ellison might put it.

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Sarah Palin but I think she's actually better at the word salad than Unca Joe? Maybe not, but my God is he pathetic.

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I heard Todd filed for divorce. Secretly, of course. Wouldn't want to smear the shine off that family values apple, now would we?

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@Anja Geitz I know, right?

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@lizzyh7 what a mess!

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Amy Klobuchar took out her staffer's comb and started digging right in.

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Joe is being slammed for being a racist.

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@Wally or so of post-op analysis I saw on CNN, neither of their two black political pundits (a black woman and Van Jones on the usual too-large 8-person panel) had a thing to say about the record player let alone the implied racism or condescension. Dunno if Michael Tracey or Jordan Chariton caught it, but Jeff Greenfield at Politico did and thinks it's a big blunder for Biden.

Biden produces so many word salads that it takes a little longer to figure out what he said or how badly he expressed himself.

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@wokkamile
And occasionally trotting out a sanitized figurehead like Obama, who knew nothing of the black experience.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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@Wally

Apart from the me not-talk-pretty-one-day aspect of his bumbling incoherence, I can't imagine any black voter wants to hear an old white presidential candidate arrogantly take it upon himself to "fix" them black folks with more psychiatrists, and less TV watching. Really? That's his answer to the question about addressing the legacy of slavery???

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@Anja Geitz reparations which idea most AAs support and Joe leads the pack in black support so far, so on a question about the legacy of slavery has to find a way to avoid the obvious discussion on reparations and the possibility of offending his large base. Thus his pivot to a discussion about his ... interesting ... proposals to improve black educational achievement.

But go out and preach it to the People. Because currently Biden is getting oversized credit from AAs for his loyalty to and support of Obama. Biden leads by a whopping margin among AAs in the important early primary state of SC. I think his AA support there is above 40%.

The Biden-Obama link is going to be a hard one to break among black voters, but so far Joe is doing a fair job of undoing it himself.

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@wokkamile

I am aware of the purpose of the political pivot away from controversial topics. Which is why this mind numbing "debate" process in the guise of "getting to know" the candidate is an insulting farce, at our expense. While some may find in the intricacies of the political games politicians play interesting, I do not. It's like watching the Romans feeding prisoners to the lions, and then commenting on the process with which it's done. The entire kabuki show that is our electoral system is a venal degradation that has been so distorted it no longer resembles a democracy.

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@Wally today by that Anand G...........as guy (whom I'd never heard of) whose twitter commentary on Joe was cited above by Wally. Joy Reid Show on Msnbc of all places, allowing a surprising more than a few minutes to discuss Biden's Racist Uncle at Thanksgiving debate remarks.

Interesting comment from Anand, who is apparently a regular commenter at Msnbc, that he was privately contacted by a group connected with Trump's re-elect, who told him the campaign already has been hitting pay dirt finding past Biden comments in the area of race. Source said Trump's team will use the material to neutralize charges that DT is racist and divisive. As a two-fer, the embarrassing Biden material, which is beyond what is already out there apparently, would also serve to reduce his AA support in the general, which full support he would need to win.

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Uncle Joe says you gotta make up those 4 million missing words. Alternatively, you can turn on your kid's record player and drop some vinyl audiobooks on that turntable.

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Did he think the question was beneath his answer?

But ain't this the truth?

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@snoopydawg I know there was a lot of rumor, speculation and plain old CS about all sorts of health related issues. But she did seem to lose the fight with gravity more than one should. And they did hide her away with a doctor for some reason or another.

Y’know, if I actually believed any of this mattered, I’d be horrified by the clips I saw of Biden last night. Dude almost spit out his choppers, for crying out loud! And the reaction to Castro implying the obvious (that Joe isn’t all there)...what in the hell do they think Trump will do to Joe?!? What a shit show!

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On this note I think you'll enjoy this article. I certainly did!

We're all doomed!

Joe Biden Is A Doddering Old Mummy With A Skull Full Of Dumpster Juice

Joe Biden’s politics are bad and he is a bad candidate. Ordinarily that might be the most important measure of a guy running for national office: That his positions, both as stated and as demonstrated by his decades in national government, amount to a tepid, grey, nutrient-free broth of long-discredited Third Way boomer bullshit; that, in the context of, well, all this, the horror of 2019 and the swelling terror just over its horizon, The ship’s good, we just need a better captain to steer it is not in any meaningful sense different from apocalyptic death-cult Heaven’s Gate shit; that the places where his talking points harmonize with the worthy priorities and goals of others are also the very places where his own long track record as a defender of credit companies and champion of racist crime policies most clearly discredits him; that he has nothing more to offer by way of tactical approaches to accomplishing his weak goals beyond musty, insulting platitudes about harnessing the imaginary good will and good faith of the sneering genocidal fascists on the far side of the aisle. If that were all, there wouldn’t need to be more.

But also! Joe Biden is 76 years old and plainly in steep cognitive decline, which is a nice way of saying that he is a doddering, senile old oaf who cannot keep his teeth in straight and whose brain appears to be some torn-up sponge chunks floating in dishwater. During last night’s Democratic presidential debate in Houston, Biden appeared confused about his own position on health care, both about the details of the health-care proposal on his own website and about what he himself had just said about his health-care proposal, a few minutes earlier. Later, a moderator read him back something he’d said in 1975 about segregation in schools, a snide rejection of the idea that present-day white Americans have any responsibility to make reparations for slavery, and asked him, “What responsibility do you think that Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country?”

He’s a senile old man who has no business running a museum tour, much less the executive branch of the federal government.

(And so, naturally, the Washington Post’s analyst, Dan Balz, writes that “former vice president Joe Biden on Thursday delivered the kind of performance his supporters have been waiting for—combative when needed and in the thick of the action throughout.” As for, like, the actual stuff Biden said, or the plain, slurring, loose-dentured confusion with which he said it, that mostly goes unmentioned. Why should that matter? He was givin’ ‘em hell!)

(We’re all doomed.)

I like this guy's writing... read the whole thing.

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@snoopydawg

Somewhat painful to read, however.

In the end, the corrupt and incompetent Democratic Party bosses did it again! Same as 2016. They attempted to force on us a candidate completely unsuitable for the task. They pushed a living insult in the face of our political and social priorities. Their excuse is that they needed a candidate who can beat Donald Trump. The Democratic Party leadership is so deranged that they actually believed Joe Biden was that man.

For the Council on Foreign Relations, Joe Biden is the perfect candidate. His presidency would be the opportunity of a lifetime. In 2021, the CFR would quietly fill the cabinet, the courts, the State Department, and all other appointed positions of authority. Exactly 100 years from the day of their founding, they will have achieved their aim to establish the US as the seat of global empire. A swing and a miss, of course.

This is still a continuation of the unresolved Russia Hoax and 2016 election sabotage by a cartel of Democratic Elite in collusion with their top appointees in the Intelligence Community. This nightmare is still playing out — in 2020! James Kunstler touched on that same idea the other day:

The memory hole that appeared in America’s zeitgeist around 2016 is expanding like some evil cosmic rot. Things happen and then things unhappen and after a while it’s like they never happened. For instance, little seems to have happened all summer long with the matter known as RussiaGate, the attempt by high US government officials to overthrow the result of the 2016 election by pretending that Russia was trying to interfere in the 2016 election.

The case against General Michael Flynn was an intersection between all the malign forces operating in RussiaGate: rogue high government officials, the vengeful Mrs. Clinton, her allies in the media, and the ass-covering of figures in Barack Obama’s White House inner circle. The case needs to be resolved to plug the memory hole in American political life.

Meanwhile, all indications are that former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe is about to be frog-marched into an indictment for his part in the epic, many-tentacled RussiaGate intrigue. Perhaps today. Many of the other well-known players will follow. Until they do, the Justice branch of the US government may be considered an enemy of the people.

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Not that there is anyone left in the Federal Government who has clean hands.

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@Pluto's Republic

He nailed the Russia Gate farce. It was non stop Russia Russia Russia for two years straight and then it died down after Mueller flubbed his testimony. Every now and then though they bring the dead horse out for more flogging and people think they are learning something new when all it is more made up lies. What happened to the spy story that was all the rage earlier this week? It's gone from the headlines. How many people learned that the spy was removed from Russia during Obama's tenure and not after Trump hosted the Russians? And why for gawd's sake would the PTB release the guy's name? Are we being setup for another Skripal incident. (Here's a great article on the whole Russia Gate saga. The nerve agent BZ was used instead of Novichok)

So after two plus years Flynn might walk because his attorney didn't receive exculpatory evidence from the defense and McCabe might be prosecuted himself. Hopefully he is the first in a long line of people who were involved in this scam to be charged.

This is exactly what happened and she shouldn't get away with it.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg
Thanks for sharing that article. It’s painfully true.

After that debate, I keep thinking of a conversation I had with my late grandmother around 2007. Keep in mind, my family is very republican. She said “McCain shouldn’t be running. He is too old.”

My grandmother was older than McCain. She came from a small town in Indiana. She’d probably never seen a person of color until she was in her twenties. Exactly the kind of person the McCain campaign was designed for. And she felt he was too old.

It kind of shocked me really, because I really didn’t think McCain’s age was a liability. The guy was an evil shitheel, but he seemed to more or less be together. (Ok, he did that weird suspending his campaign to panic about the financial crisis thing, but that seemed more like general stupidity than age kicking in.)

She elaborated that even though she was in his cohort, people like him had their time to lead. He was too removed from what was going to impact my generation and the ones after me. It was time for her generation to stand aside and let someone else run things.

I was really kind of surprised because this just wasn’t stuff you were supposed to say, you know? But, no way could I disagree either. It was a learning moment for me when I realized that maybe not everyone my grandma’s age is so keen on having a president their own age.

As I watch Biden, I wonder what she’d have to say about him. I can only imagine she’d have some pretty choice things to say, not only knowing her view on age, but also that her own mother was struck with Alzheimer’s and my grandfather dementia.

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She elaborated that even though she was in his cohort, people like him had their time to lead. He was too removed from what was going to impact my generation and the ones after me.

The people who have been in congress for decades have no idea what the rest of us are going through in our daily lives. Besides how many things have changed since they first got elected to how effing rich they are now they don't remember what it's like to have to find money for the little things let alone the bigger things. When's the last time any of them had to pump their own gas or go to the store or any of the rest of myriad things we do? We can see how out of touch ByeDone is every time he speaks. Of course we don't have a representative government and haven't really ever, but it's so much worse now. Gahh! BP is going up...

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But, but, but, vinyl sales are on track to surpass CD's this year for the first time since Joe was a novice politician. Cut him some slack. Please. Channel your inner DNC.

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@davidgmillsatty Could happen: CDs are becoming passe while the hard core audiophiles still covet vinyl.

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Not only tipsee, but she rambles on and on and on... and BTW Yes we Can! Good grief!

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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then they should at least let them listen to people talking on the wireless.

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because it is volatile here and elsewhere among progressives, but Biden's stone age allusions to to black parents not knowing how to raise their kids and not providing them with enough words is pretty much a standard talking point of the progressive education power elite. It is their explanation for the ever-so-persistant Achievement Gap. It is progressive elite cover for substanceless education, such that it is the parent's responsibility to provide kids with knowledge, literature, and educational experiences, not teachers.

I'm oversimplifying, and I'm ranting a bit, but Biden's obscene remarks were very familiar to anyone who has paid attention to the public education debates over the last 2 decades.

The rock that Biden's remarks have turned over has revealed the ugly reality of white progressive racism that has become institutionalized in much of American teacher education for the past half century, which of course has only continued the white racism of previous centuries.

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@Linda Wood

And this goes back to the progressivism at the turn of the 19th - 20th century.

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@Linda Wood

and then he added in something about white kids and other class groups? He was basically saying that poor kids weren't as smart as white kids or rich kids. And yet that too was overlooked as a racist remark because of course Joe ain't racist. Nope not at all. Just send social workers in to black's homes and teach parents how to raise their kids. Nothing wrong with that at'all.

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@Linda Wood and others on what is going on with the progressive educational elite reformers.

But I was also taken aback about Joe's call for kids age "3, 4 and 5 to go to school -- not day care, school!"

Seems a tad early for youngsters to be sitting at a desk taking tests, writing essays and learning grammar, if that's what he meant.

I think some of these Scandinavian countries have the far better idea -- delay formal schooling until age 6-7 or so. At least judging by the results of achievement by the usual indicia, these countries seem to have hit on a good idea. Also equal funding of schools and standardized curriculum, not greatly unequal funding by zip code and property taxes and wildly different curricula depending on the state, etc.

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so HER could make a run. Now it's his turn. Be fun to see how far the DNC pushes this dead donkey before they abandon him. Remember, this is the anybody but Bernie party.

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And I'm not religious or secularly idolatrous.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Pascal 2.0

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in embarassment to the US Public.
The Senile President follows the Crazy President. At least Obama was presentable in public.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness

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This sums up Obama's presidency and why people think they miss him so much. Whenever I see a tweet that says "I miss you so much" I tweet this article that shows all of the horrible things he did.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/ian-berman/when-you-say-you-miss-presiden...

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This just in from the Daily KOS:
"We have to stop pretending that our criminal justice system is fair and equal. Sign Kamala Harris's petition to support her plan to fix it. We need your voice in this fight! >>
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God forbid her solutions for "fixing" problems she was an active participant in.

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