ByeDone: the context of the record player statement
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You have heard of him giving a totally OT rambling response wherein he suggests parents have their children listen to the record player at night? It's getting as much play as his "We never put children in cages" statement out their in MSM world.
While the latter quote is a lie, the record player gaffe (?) is even more problematic.
ABC's Linsey Davis : “What responsibility do you think that Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country?”
Biden: Well, they have to deal with the — look, there’s institutional segregation in this country. And from the time I got involved, I started dealing with that. Red-lining banks, making sure that we are in a position where — look, you talk about education. I propose that what we take is those very poor schools, the Title I schools, triple the amount of money we spend from 15 to $45 billion a year. Give every single teacher a raise, the equal raise to getting out — the $60,000 level.
Number two, make sure that we bring in to help the teachers deal with the problems that come from home. The problems that come from home, we need — we have one school psychologist for every 1,500 kids in America today. It’s crazy.
The teachers are — I’m married to a teacher. My deceased wife is a teacher. They have every problem coming to them. We have — make sure that every single child does, in fact, have 3-, 4-, and 5-year-olds go to school. School. Not daycare. School. We bring social workers in to homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children.
It’s not want they don’t want to help. They don’t — they don’t know quite what to do. Play the radio, make sure the television — excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the — the — make sure that kids hear words. A kid coming from a very poor school — a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time they get there.
ABC's Linsey Davis: "Thank you, Mr. Vice President."
But ByeDone is not finished yet.
Biden: There’s so much we — no, I’m going to go like the rest of them do, twice over, okay?
Because here’s the deal. The deal is that we’ve got this a little backwards. And by the way, in Venezuela, we should be allowing people to come here from Venezuela. I know Maduro. I’ve confronted Maduro.
Number two, you talk about the need to do something in Latin America. I’m the guy that came up with $740 million to see to it those three countries, in fact, changed their system so people don’t have to chance to leave. You’re all acting like we just discovered this yesterday. Thank you very much.
That's some first rate crazy talk word salad right there.
Yeah, he'll definitely make mince meat out of Drumph.
Ladies and Gentleman, your Democratic front runner...
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Joe was picked as VP in 2008 because he was "experienced" (old)
Now, he's just daft.
He's been put in here as a placeholder who can be trusted by the PTB to release his delegates to the (real) anointed one at the Convention. Every time he opens his mouth, he's playing recorded messages from the right-center of the Democratic Party, circa 1980. Jukebox Joe.
They really could lose the next one to Trump.
@leveymg Losing is looking more
No disrespect
But I think his deceased wife should get a raise already. I mean how many teachers do you know who are that dedicated they choose to teach in the afterlife?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
They can’t even respect the living teachers
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
That's the great thing about zombie teachers
They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore
Ah, my favorite brain soup
Cream of nowhere...
[video:https://youtu.be/UxavcOn1qiI]
Health insurance is cheap too.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
lol...
I was hoping someone pulled that out of his statement. Awe Joe... you had a great run of screwing us at every turn you could and now it's time for you to go and enjoy time with your family.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
It's the grammarian in me
Even in his blatering word salad of a response, the tense just screamed at me. A bit pathetic, don't you think, watching these poor lying bastards having to think fast on their feet. Joe shoulda called up Donna B. and had the questions sent to him before the debate. Amirite?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
@Anja Geitz Probably would not
At least she's not
And I would imagine the classroom discipline is better than here. Doubtful too teachers have to worry about the low pay on that side of the equation.
it helps when all of the pupils are little angels.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Beyond the pearly gates...
Someone once asked me back when I was in my thirties, if there was a heaven, what would it look like for me? The first image that came to mind was the library the cursed Prince gave to Belle in Beauty and the Beast, where inside each book were the answers to all my questions about life.
Now that I'm, *cough*, a little older, the only thing I'd change in my answer would be to add a world class French chef and a very large dinner table.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
My vision was the secret garden
I imagine myself walking down the stairs and when I turn left there is my family to meet me as well as my dawgs...
I love the soundtrack to the movie. Track 7.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
The secret garden works too
Kinda circular in a way. The Garden of Eden and what not. Apparently our answers are supposed to reveal our true nature. Not sure if that's true, but it seems everyone's answer is very different. My Sister, who suffers from chronic pain, envisioned her heaven as a place where the clouds are the comfiest chairs she ever sat in.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
If you will allow me to be a little maudlin.
I'd trade that French chef for my eating my Mom's home cooking again.
I'd even accept the "Don't Slouch!"
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Nothing maudlin about that
And the great thing about heaven, no dishes to wash!
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
How about President Sanders and Margaret Thatcher as the name
of both Theresa May and Angela Merkel?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-accidentally-calls-san...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mix-up-biden-confuses-theresa-ma...
https://theweek.com/articles/858498/what-take-democratic-establishment-a...
These are not mere flubs or gaffes, as some articles refer to them. We all have slips of the tongue sometimes. They are now a pattern indicating confusion and/or mental lapses.
True ByeDone-very true
"in fact, changed their system so people don’t have to chance to leave" - ya know, even if they really, really want to. I mean, let's make sure all those people who had "regime change" done to their countries, never, ever get "to chance to leave".
Well done is better than well said-Ben Franklin
Just a momentary lapse into candor
Repeated lapses into honesty are a sure sign a politician is ready to be sent to the farm. As Harlan Ellison might put it.
Not that I ever really listened to
Sarah Palin but I think she's actually better at the word salad than Unca Joe? Maybe not, but my God is he pathetic.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Speaking of Sarah Palin
I heard Todd filed for divorce. Secretly, of course. Wouldn't want to smear the shine off that family values apple, now would we?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
LOL!
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Who gets the house with the Russia view?
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Could you imagine them “debating” now?
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
A word salad so tasty
Amy Klobuchar took out her staffer's comb and started digging right in.
Joe's getting slammed as racist
Correction:
Joe is being slammed for being a racist.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Good one :)
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
In the 15 min
Jeff Greenfield at Politico did and thinks it's a big blunder for Biden.
or so of post-op analysis I saw on CNN, neither of their two black political pundits (a black woman and Van Jones on the usual too-large 8-person panel) had a thing to say about the record player let alone the implied racism or condescension. Dunno if Michael Tracey or Jordan Chariton caught it, butBiden produces so many word salads that it takes a little longer to figure out what he said or how badly he expressed himself.
Democrats are for keeping blacks on the Plantation
And occasionally trotting out a sanitized figurehead like Obama, who knew nothing of the black experience.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I'm glad he's getting backlash for his comment
Apart from the me not-talk-pretty-one-day aspect of his bumbling incoherence, I can't imagine any black voter wants to hear an old white presidential candidate arrogantly take it upon himself to "fix" them black folks with more psychiatrists, and less TV watching. Really? That's his answer to the question about addressing the legacy of slavery???
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Joe is against
But go out and preach it to the People. Because currently Biden is getting oversized credit from AAs for his loyalty to and support of Obama. Biden leads by a whopping margin among AAs in the important early primary state of SC. I think his AA support there is above 40%.
The Biden-Obama link is going to be a hard one to break among black voters, but so far Joe is doing a fair job of undoing it himself.
Yes, thank you
I am aware of the purpose of the political pivot away from controversial topics. Which is why this mind numbing "debate" process in the guise of "getting to know" the candidate is an insulting farce, at our expense. While some may find in the intricacies of the political games politicians play interesting, I do not. It's like watching the Romans feeding prisoners to the lions, and then commenting on the process with which it's done. The entire kabuki show that is our electoral system is a venal degradation that has been so distorted it no longer resembles a democracy.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Good appearance
Joy Reid Show on Msnbc of all places, allowing a surprising more than a few minutes to discuss Biden's Racist Uncle at Thanksgiving debate remarks.
today by that Anand G...........as guy (whom I'd never heard of) whose twitter commentary on Joe was cited above by Wally.Interesting comment from Anand, who is apparently a regular commenter at Msnbc, that he was privately contacted by a group connected with Trump's re-elect, who told him the campaign already has been hitting pay dirt finding past Biden comments in the area of race. Source said Trump's team will use the material to neutralize charges that DT is racist and divisive. As a two-fer, the embarrassing Biden material, which is beyond what is already out there apparently, would also serve to reduce his AA support in the general, which full support he would need to win.
Start Talking, Black People
Uncle Joe says you gotta make up those 4 million missing words. Alternatively, you can turn on your kid's record player and drop some vinyl audiobooks on that turntable.
He is being called on his scoff
Did he think the question was beneath his answer?
But ain't this the truth?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Well, Hillary’s campaign was headed that way
Y’know, if I actually believed any of this mattered, I’d be horrified by the clips I saw of Biden last night. Dude almost spit out his choppers, for crying out loud! And the reaction to Castro implying the obvious (that Joe isn’t all there)...what in the hell do they think Trump will do to Joe?!? What a shit show!
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Agreed
On this note I think you'll enjoy this article. I certainly did!
We're all doomed!
Joe Biden Is A Doddering Old Mummy With A Skull Full Of Dumpster Juice
I like this guy's writing... read the whole thing.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
That was a really good read. Thanks.
Somewhat painful to read, however.
In the end, the corrupt and incompetent Democratic Party bosses did it again! Same as 2016. They attempted to force on us a candidate completely unsuitable for the task. They pushed a living insult in the face of our political and social priorities. Their excuse is that they needed a candidate who can beat Donald Trump. The Democratic Party leadership is so deranged that they actually believed Joe Biden was that man.
For the Council on Foreign Relations, Joe Biden is the perfect candidate. His presidency would be the opportunity of a lifetime. In 2021, the CFR would quietly fill the cabinet, the courts, the State Department, and all other appointed positions of authority. Exactly 100 years from the day of their founding, they will have achieved their aim to establish the US as the seat of global empire. A swing and a miss, of course.
This is still a continuation of the unresolved Russia Hoax and 2016 election sabotage by a cartel of Democratic Elite in collusion with their top appointees in the Intelligence Community. This nightmare is still playing out — in 2020! James Kunstler touched on that same idea the other day:
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Not that there is anyone left in the Federal Government who has clean hands.
Thanks for the Kunzler article
He nailed the Russia Gate farce. It was non stop Russia Russia Russia for two years straight and then it died down after Mueller flubbed his testimony. Every now and then though they bring the dead horse out for more flogging and people think they are learning something new when all it is more made up lies. What happened to the spy story that was all the rage earlier this week? It's gone from the headlines. How many people learned that the spy was removed from Russia during Obama's tenure and not after Trump hosted the Russians? And why for gawd's sake would the PTB release the guy's name? Are we being setup for another Skripal incident. (Here's a great article on the whole Russia Gate saga. The nerve agent BZ was used instead of Novichok)
So after two plus years Flynn might walk because his attorney didn't receive exculpatory evidence from the defense and McCabe might be prosecuted himself. Hopefully he is the first in a long line of people who were involved in this scam to be charged.
This is exactly what happened and she shouldn't get away with it.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Well worth it!
Thanks for sharing that article. It’s painfully true.
After that debate, I keep thinking of a conversation I had with my late grandmother around 2007. Keep in mind, my family is very republican. She said “McCain shouldn’t be running. He is too old.”
My grandmother was older than McCain. She came from a small town in Indiana. She’d probably never seen a person of color until she was in her twenties. Exactly the kind of person the McCain campaign was designed for. And she felt he was too old.
It kind of shocked me really, because I really didn’t think McCain’s age was a liability. The guy was an evil shitheel, but he seemed to more or less be together. (Ok, he did that weird suspending his campaign to panic about the financial crisis thing, but that seemed more like general stupidity than age kicking in.)
She elaborated that even though she was in his cohort, people like him had their time to lead. He was too removed from what was going to impact my generation and the ones after me. It was time for her generation to stand aside and let someone else run things.
I was really kind of surprised because this just wasn’t stuff you were supposed to say, you know? But, no way could I disagree either. It was a learning moment for me when I realized that maybe not everyone my grandma’s age is so keen on having a president their own age.
As I watch Biden, I wonder what she’d have to say about him. I can only imagine she’d have some pretty choice things to say, not only knowing her view on age, but also that her own mother was struck with Alzheimer’s and my grandfather dementia.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
This pertains to most people in congress
The people who have been in congress for decades have no idea what the rest of us are going through in our daily lives. Besides how many things have changed since they first got elected to how effing rich they are now they don't remember what it's like to have to find money for the little things let alone the bigger things. When's the last time any of them had to pump their own gas or go to the store or any of the rest of myriad things we do? We can see how out of touch ByeDone is every time he speaks. Of course we don't have a representative government and haven't really ever, but it's so much worse now. Gahh! BP is going up...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
But, but, but, vinyl sales
But, but, but, vinyl sales are on track to surpass CD's this year for the first time since Joe was a novice politician. Cut him some slack. Please. Channel your inner DNC.
Never know
Kambama: "What was the question?"
Not only tipsee, but she rambles on and on and on... and BTW Yes we Can! Good grief!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Trying to remember her clandestine breifing.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
If black parents won't put on the victrola for their kids
then they should at least let them listen to people talking on the wireless.
I'm sorry to say this,
because it is volatile here and elsewhere among progressives, but Biden's stone age allusions to to black parents not knowing how to raise their kids and not providing them with enough words is pretty much a standard talking point of the progressive education power elite. It is their explanation for the ever-so-persistant Achievement Gap. It is progressive elite cover for substanceless education, such that it is the parent's responsibility to provide kids with knowledge, literature, and educational experiences, not teachers.
I'm oversimplifying, and I'm ranting a bit, but Biden's obscene remarks were very familiar to anyone who has paid attention to the public education debates over the last 2 decades.
The rock that Biden's remarks have turned over has revealed the ugly reality of white progressive racism that has become institutionalized in much of American teacher education for the past half century, which of course has only continued the white racism of previous centuries.
A big part of the reason I dislike using the term "progressive"
And this goes back to the progressivism at the turn of the 19th - 20th century.
Remember his remark about poor kids and schools
and then he added in something about white kids and other class groups? He was basically saying that poor kids weren't as smart as white kids or rich kids. And yet that too was overlooked as a racist remark because of course Joe ain't racist. Nope not at all. Just send social workers in to black's homes and teach parents how to raise their kids. Nothing wrong with that at'all.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I'll defer to you
But I was also taken aback about Joe's call for kids age "3, 4 and 5 to go to school -- not day care, school!"
Seems a tad early for youngsters to be sitting at a desk taking tests, writing essays and learning grammar, if that's what he meant.
I think some of these Scandinavian countries have the far better idea -- delay formal schooling until age 6-7 or so. At least judging by the results of achievement by the usual indicia, these countries seem to have hit on a good idea. Also equal funding of schools and standardized curriculum, not greatly unequal funding by zip code and property taxes and wildly different curricula depending on the state, etc.
Joe stepped aside
so HER could make a run. Now it's his turn. Be fun to see how far the DNC pushes this dead donkey before they abandon him. Remember, this is the anybody but Bernie party.
And a Bernie will never come again
And I'm not religious or secularly idolatrous.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Pascal 2.0
Interesting biden may outdo Trump
in embarassment to the US Public.
The Senile President follows the Crazy President. At least Obama was presentable in public.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Yup
This sums up Obama's presidency and why people think they miss him so much. Whenever I see a tweet that says "I miss you so much" I tweet this article that shows all of the horrible things he did.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/ian-berman/when-you-say-you-miss-presiden...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
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God forbid her solutions for "fixing" problems she was an active participant in.
"There ain't no sin and there ain't no virtue. There's just stuff people do.”
― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath