a PSA in case you 'missed' Mueller's testilying
before the House Judiciary and Intel committees earlier today. Against my own advice to myself, I'd listened to some of the former live at Rt.com, and without giving some of the insanely partisan Qs and Mueller; As, I will say that most of it sounded like this to me, only a bit more allegro:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DOFw3SJrd0]
But the whole reason the following project had begun at all was that a woman that Mr. wd's been working for had been soooo distressed that since she had a doctor's appointment about 40 miles east of her place this morning, and wouldn't be able to watch the testimony of that 'O, so honorable man'...and has been blown away that Mr. wd thought the whole thing was not only cocked-up, but FUBAR, that he couldn't even pay attention to any of it... I dug up some of Mueller's er...seamier history of cover-ups, just in case he cared to have any ammo for in the future.
But I'd started emailing her the C-Span versions of both House Judiciary and Intel hearings page, which has the added benefit of short clips wit labels, plus some Tweeties on the side.
Ah hell, I'd thought, I give her the whole mess (as in: 'In for a Penny, in for a Pound'), including the VIPS at Consortium News (leaks, not hacks), 'Comey orders stand down' (no interviews with Assange), and this one from UK Ambassador Craig Murray, advising her that it was the best I could do in the time I had.
But thinking about Mueller's answers, maybe his testimony sounded more like this:
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Have Mr wd give her the link to daily kos
They covered it from the beginning of Rob's testimony and hooboy, lots of the kids are very unhappy with him.
Lieu tried to pin him down on obstruction of justice charges and at first Mueller said that he would have charged him if he hadn't been hamstrung by the doj memo saying that the president cannot be charged while in office. Not too long after that he walked it back. Oops. And since the hearing was delayed for a week any momentum that democrats got from them will be popped because they are leaving town for 6 weeks. Gee..you'd think that was done intentionally if you were cynical enough.
ETA tweet
lol..
Rose colored glasses?
This is promoted content by Kambama. Kinda like when she had the t shirt of herself who was bussed as a kid for sell right after she went after ByeDone for his stance on busing..
The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.
Kambama
It's amazing what some people will do for a buck. I know politicians have been raising $$ since the beginning of time, but it seems like Pres. Obama started this mass marketing fund raising when he ran in 2008. Now it's just a constant stream of begging for dollars from any occurrence, such as the Mueller testimony.
that memo must have been
from the OLC (office of legal council or something?) someone had asked about? if so...he'd said no, but that Boss Tweet could still be charged once he's out of office.
i'll pass on the Daily Kos history, as i'm not entirely sure that mr. wd will be all that high about what i did send her. she's almost 80, but...a youthful 80, as they say. ; ) yeah, emptywheel has up 3 separate posts already: 2 from marcy, 1 from rayne.
guess i'd never really watched him, but he sure did remind me of one of my favorite jokes.
a horse walked into a saloon one day, and slowly clip-clopped up to the bar. the bartender said, "hey, buddy; why the long face?"
Yeah it's that memo
and bobby did walk it back today. Just what could he be charged with under the Russian interference investigation nonsense? War crimes and crimes against humanity he should definitely be charged with whether he's in office or not, but we don't do anything about that.
Here's more Marcy. I really have no idea what she is talking about. The Russian tower building was never serious and only Cohen was involved with it. But hey, people will believe what they want just so they don't have to admit that Hillary lost because she was a horrible candidate.
The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.
i will offer that mueller
seemed to be stoned on valium (an amnesiac, apparently: one experiences the pain, but doesn't quite remember it), so there's that. but here's my crap memory of the Q and A: it was supposed to have been trump, jr. who'd been the 'intermediary' on that. and it's only been 6, 8 hours ago. but it's allegedly one of the reasons Putin's people hacked the emails: because: Trump Tower, Moscow.
jeebus; will this ruse never end? clinton lost of her own accord, D team: get over it! wake me when it's over!
on edit: mueller used so many weasel words! 'this can't be ruled out'; i would say generally'.
The bit about the OLC memo is nonsense, but I don't have to
tell you that.
Markos and Marcy are busy on Twitter this afternoon
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ye gods and little fishes!
same dude tweeted: @atrupar 1h1 hour ago
"Trump gets mad when a reporter asks him if he's concerned about getting indicted after he leaves office, says "WikiLeaks is a hoax just like everything else" and calls the reporter "fake news"
didn't watch the video, though...dunno why the one you brought of his didn't play the embedded video, though, miz bugler. ; )
Aaron is on Jimmy's show today
talking about the Mueller hearing. And he nails it here.
Pelosi just hamstrung the next president with her kicking the debt ceiling down the road. Probably just in case Bernie somehow wins. Aw Nancy, always looking out for the little guys. She doesn't think that McConnell will try to stifle the president's agenda just like he didn't Obama. Oh wait..
The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.
yeah, i read
gjohnsit's thread on that, luckily it kinda turned into 'aiding and abetting by the Ds...in general. luckily teh Slimes is behind a paywall 4 me and every time i try to sign up for my 4, 6, whatever free clicks per month, i wait and wait....and then get: "sorry, busy; try again another day." oh, ya mean that cold day in hell we hear tell about?!?
oh, and wsws coverage
of the Great Bi-Partisan lifting of the debt ceiling: Patrick Martin, 4 July 2019
ah, well, that's enough.
dayum straight, miz speaker!
the only other democracy™ i've ever lived in is Israel's!
The Great Pretender
But whom, mon cheri? The Great Orange Hero or Bobby the Swan?--or Jerry Nadler or Adam Schiff or Kamala Camel or...
Being a glutton--for punishment that is--I watched the hearing until my gastric acid pH had reached less than 1. First, Jerry is laughable. How can one hear anything that clown says without laughing? Integrity. WTF? The "honorable" Swan ducks and jives like Mohammed Ali. Sting like a butterfly? Is that it? wd--you can sting harder than the Swan. Integrity--there they go again. (Suppressed guffaw).
The Swan looked uncomfortable. A court ordered him to not claim that Russia colluded with hacking of information. The Swan almost got trapped by Doug Collins in contradicting his own report. (About 30 minutes in).
Bobby, Bobby. you are slipping. Time for retirement (and perhaps long-term residence at the Gray Bar Hotel, Cuban department).
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) insists that Russia hacked the DNC. Under court order, the Swan made no reply. So Logren by simply saying there was a Russian Hack--a statement the Swan was precluded from endorsing.
Müller could not say that Trump was not proven innocent--a statement contradicting the legal presumption of innocent until proven guilty. There is no such DOJ policy condoning such a position of not being able to prove innocence.
Ratcliffe nailed Müller's webbed feet to the floor. There was neither declination or statement of president's culpability in obstruction of justice. This relates to Volume Two of the report.
Sheila Jackson Lee just repeated the possible areas of Trump's obstruction of justice, even though the Swan earlier in the hearing that there was no charge of obstruction of justice.
Sensenbrenner nailed Müller in claiming that Müller did not indict Trump because of DOJ policy against indicting a sitting president. But earlier, in a joint appearance of Müller and AG Barr, they stated that the DOJ policy was NOT a determinant of the non-indictment decision.
Steve "Finger Licking Good" Cohen concentrated on the role (more accurately non-role) of Sessions in being asked to unrecuse himself. This did not occur. So then what effect did the accusation play in restricting this kabuki investigation?
Rep. Chabot (R-OH) asked about Steele Dossier--the Swan dodged any acknowledgement of that dossier! By context, this dossier involved Fusion GPS but the Swan said in response when questioned "Outside of my purview".
In fact, Müller did not mention Fusion GPS at all in his report.
After 1 hour, 2 minutes, I threw in the proverbial towel.
zounds; you done did good!
but see, now i'm at a loss, cuz so few of those names are even known to me, but whooosh: what a brilliant summation of the most notable...notables!
silly mon, i'd introduced the great pretender: 'But thinking about Mueller's answers, maybe his testimony sounded more like this:
but see, ya gonna speak froggie at me, it's 'ma chérie' on accountta last time i'd checked anyway, i'm a 'she', mon cher.
Whadda I know about frog talk?
What I do know is those critters taste mighty good.
So, with deep humility, I amend my greeting to you, dear wd:
Here, for you, is my musical homage: to my sweet Cherie Pie
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RisWH8iMLdE]
i done et a few froggie legs
when i was a kid, but they were um...breaded and fried. cripes, i'd even tried some BBQ possum, yech.
love the homage to dickens; i left you something similar on another thread, but an oldie 'n moldie. but rolling on the floor laughing, and all that jazz. thank you, sir gator.
You know better
He's for sure dementia material.
I think his lawyers are prepping him for not guilty by mental defect.
Sorry for the wrong place of this post.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Here are some key parts
of Mueller's testimony about Mifsud, along with Devin Nunes' opening statement summarizing the Russiagate scandal and Chris Wallace's description of Mueller's testimony as a disaster.
Rep. Devin Nunes’ full questioning of Robert Mueller; MIFSUD points at 3:34:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIipT35Eh4
Rep. Jim Jordan’s full questioning of Robert Mueller; MIFSUD points throughout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EbrfiAxjY0
Chris Wallace describing Mueller's testimony as a disaster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqGraFjYRfs
Devin Nunes statement on Russiagate saga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luuRh6UwAV0
Jordan makes complete crap out of Müller
and the Swan is rendered speechless. He could not defeat a single charge by Jordan. He looked lost, like where did I park my car kinda lost.
I didn't watch much of it.
And I only searched out the strongest parts afterward on Youtube, once I knew it was over and I wouldn't have to see, or hear, Schiff or Nadler. I'm a coward. Or let's just say I have to watch my blood pressure.
But from the parts I saw, the entire 3 years has been an attempt to keep information about this crime of entrapment away from the public by saying "An Investigation's Going On." Therefore, we can't reveal. We can't comment. We can't substantiate. All we can do is insinuate.
And now, after the Investigation has been dumped in the trash, we can't comment on the lack of evidence because there are other investigations going on. As bad as Mueller's "performance" was today, he accomplished that assertion very well. In other words, stay tuned. There may be some evidence somewhere. But not here.
Lawyers must have some sort of name for that film flam
You know, like res ipsi loquitur or carpe diem or some such legalese
ipso fatso, like
bart simpson says.
dfarrah
Jordan taking down Mueller is worth watching
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EbrfiAxjY0]
The gist
Misfud met with Papadopoulos and told him that the Russians had Hillary's emails and then Papadopoulos met with the Dutch Ambassador who told the FBI what Papadopoulos said. This is when the FBI got a warrant to tape Papa and by his connections to others in the Trump campaign.
Jordan asks Mueller why he didn't charge Misfud with lying since he charged to so many others? Jordan is saying that it was Misfud that started this whole sh*t show going and it's obvious that it was a setup from the beginning.
Watch it
edit spelling
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I got a few things backward
Carter Page was who they wiretapped and the FBI opened an investigation into Trump because of Misfud lying to Papa....
Jordan then tells Mueller that Barr is looking into how this started and then his whole dang 5 minutes were up. Mueller just kept saying he couln't get into it meaning he couldn't tell him why he didn't do his job. From what I've read people are wondering if Mueller even wrote any of the report or did any of the investigations because he didn't know what everyone was talking about.
The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.
Somewhere in the past week or
two or three, I keep seeing that scene from Matrix where Neo seems to be dead, full of bullets, but then comes back to life, only to be completely impervious to bullets.
And I keep seeing Trump in that role. And yet here is another bullet headed straight for Trump that falls without striking.
I think the dems may have hosed themselves well beyond anything I ever thought possible.
Or, maybe the dems will say that obviously, Mueller was not in charge of the investigation, so it needs to be done all over again.
dfarrah
Dems are stupid. Stupid beyond all belief--SUBAB
Hamsters on a fucking wheel to nowhere, guided by nitwits, who don't realize that hamsters cannot control the wheel upon which they run. Herr Müller was not gruppenführer over the sham investigation, which is large parts playwriting, supplemented by parts of outright lying. But his name is on the report--in other words, he has skin in the game. Lots of skin. In fact, he might have an arm or leg in the game. Good Ol' Patriotic Bob
I just don't get it.
Even saying that repubs and dems answer to the same PTB doesn't explain the dems' insanity/self destruction anymore.
dfarrah
OMG, Pelosi
said that the hearing was some sort of indictment of the administration and shows the administration's "cover up".
She says this after Mueller was asked point blank if he had the access he needed, and he said yes.
Pelosi is simply crazy.
Then Lara Ingraham says that more dems now view the investigation as not fair - up by 14%.
dfarrah
Nope.
She's a vodka swilling, wall street whore.
Well past the pickling date.
If there were a hell.....
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Oh. Nice to find this here.
Thanks, Wendy. Like your reading list. I warmed up with Aaron Mate's The MuellerGate Questions and the VIP's Mueller’s Forensics-Free Findings.
I hadn't planned on watching, but I stumbled into it. Whoa, these people are screwballs! I've already lost interest in the election. It's futile. It was a littly early in the day, but I invented a drinking game.
'Sweeping and Systematic' — Drink!!!
It was clear the talking points went out last night to the Media Monopolies and to the Congressional Units because they all had the same war cry throughout the day. Whenever they stumbled over the swiss cheese narrative, they would suddenly blurt "Sweeping and Systematic Russian Interference" while expressing deep fear fear for the future of American democracy. DRINK! And then quake about the Russian threat going in to the commercial.
Clearly, they want Russia Fear and Loathing to be the People's only take away. The double-down mind wipe. Comey is the fool on the hill and everyone else walks.
Wow, there sure were a lot of Forbidden Topics. Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS. Roger Stone, Gene Simpson, Carter Page, Bruce and Nelli, etc. The cast of foreign villians that they think we don't know are CIA assets. The vast desert of strategic omissions. The pointedly ignored reality.
welcome, and thanks
for your contributions and drinking game. but i'm done read out for the day, and pretty much pissed the whole day on this hoax, tending to the café, and answering a few more comments on my Ukraine diary.
and i done already swallowed two high CBD cannabis capsules, plus had a shot of cheap scotch with dinner. (mr. wd and i were both glad there were fried rice leftovers for dinner.)
sleep well, dream well if ya got em. in fact, i'll use the same closing song as i used on my ukraine post.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzZnNRJ2B0]
i'd have to add
fear and loathing of julian assange, as well, although they call him 'Wikileaks'. i just checked the c-span stand alone clips, but none had either of those names.
but i'd included my list about what i'd sent mr. wd's employer, and included it in case others here not as familiar with all of this as you, snoopy, linda wood and others might want to check out some of the basics. a primer, as it were, which is about where i am on all this; i couldn't tell you the difference between a popadopulos, mifsud, or a strozk...or whatever.
from tom hall
at wsws.org this a.m.: ‘Mueller testimony: Another debacle for the Democrats’ anti-Russia campaign’, 25 July 2019 ( a few bits):
i dunno, i looked at nancy pelosi's twitter acct.this a.m., and it's almost sad to witness. 'watch us on facebook', included.
double rope-a-dopey:
A couple of good points
were made in the Mueller hearing and are now in the Congressional Record.
One is at the very end of Devin Nunes' questioning, wherein Mueller declares the counsel did not indict Josef Mifsud, even though the Report states that Mifsud lied to investigators.
And the other is Tom McClintock’s establishment that, because the federal judge challenged the Mueller indictment's representation of the troll farm IRA as part of Russia's sweeping and systematic attack on our democracy without evidence, the Mueller team had to admit to the court that the Mueller Report provided no evidence of a connection between the IRA and the Russian government. At the very end of McClintock’s questioning he makes a memorable statement about the whole Russiagate story.
Rep. Devin Nunes’ full questioning of Robert Mueller | Mueller testimony; MIFSUD points at 3:34:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIipT35Eh4
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIipT35Eh4]
Rep. Tom McClintock’s full questioning of Robert Mueller; IRA points at 2:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XHcZR7zf0
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XHcZR7zf0]
that must have been
sooo frustrating for mcClintontok in the second video. he's asking, in effect, for mueller to rationalize his report v the judge's ruling, i.e. there's no evidence of that. but that's the crux of the whole investigation!
deer in the headlights look: i can't talk about that, you'll find no better report than mine. i admired the doggedness and clarity of jim jordan you'd brought up yonder, and it's hard not to agree w/ chris wallace.
but did you Q so-and-so? i can't talk about that, either. a Q for you, though. admittedly i'd let some of the livestreams play as i did other things, but i'd have sworn one man had asked why the investigative team were almost all Dems. mueller mumbled, but then a D rep asked him: 'but did you ask them their party affiliation?'
"No, i did not." purdy hard for the head of the fbi to discover that one, eh? do you know the makeup of the team? as i've said, i'm a newbie on this
'investigation'witch hunt.Aaron Mate
adds to Tom McClintock's establishment to the Congressional Record that the Mueller Report provides no evidence, but only insinuates, that there was a connection between the IRA troll farm and the Russian government. This is at least HALF of the entire Russiagate premise.