@The Wizard

waited so long to do D Day. After Russia had almost destroyed and contained the German army Roosevelt was worried that Russia would then take over Germany and then Europe. It was best to watch which army came out on top and hopefully both armies would kill men on both sides.

ETA this is from Moon of Alabama yesterday. It's close to what I read somewhere.

Since they were attacked by the Germans in 1941 the Soviets had pressed their allies to open a western front against Germany. In 1943, after the defeat of the Germans in Stalingrad and the failure of their counter attack in the Battle of Kursk, it became obvious that the Soviets would defeat the Nazi forces. At the Tehran conference in November 1943 Stalin pressed Roosevelt and Churchill again to finally open a western front. Knowing that the Soviets would win over Germany they agreed to launch their invasion in May 1944.

The U.S. dominated western Europe ever since and quite successfully indoctrinated it with its false version of history.

But of course Hitler would never have been able to do what he did without the help from Ford, Prescott Bush, the banks and big corporations. Gee...kinda like how Isis and Al Qaida wouldn't be able to do what they do without help from us and our allies huh? That people can be so blausay about how their actions will end up killing people is beyond my comprehension. There is no way I can wrap my mind around it.

US casualties were barely 1% of Soviet casualties. D Day invasion was not only unnecessary but would have been totally impossible without incredible damage that the Soviets did to the German war machine and personnel, about 75% destroyed. Surviving Germans from D day have verified this. With the Luftwaffe at strength and the German army at strength D day would have resulted in a huge pile of dead Americans, Canadians and Brits. And the warships would have been a grave for the sailors. The Allied invasion was all about stopping the Soviets, as indeed was the horrendous use of nuclear bombs on civilian populations in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And yet the Russians (a critical part of the partnership of the three major Allies) were not invited to the D day celebrations, but the Germans were. And the war against Russia goes on, and now against China. No sacrifice of the citizens of other nations is too great a price to pay to fight Russia. Everything changes and nothing changes.

@The Aspie Corner
before either the A bombs or Soviet intervention. Factories in the cities Lemay burned were producing virtually nothing because American naval forces, particularly submarines, had established an effective blockade around Japan some time before.

On the other hand there were a substantial number of Japanese who preferred death to surrender. Even after all that had happened a cabal tried to prevent the emperor's broadcast of Japanese surrender.

to take down the Soviet Union. When that failed, we did what we do with any client or proxy that fails us: Bomb their asses to the stone age.

Here's another little known fact: It was Stalin's invasion of Manchuria that stopped Japan, not the A-bombs we dropped on them. But don't let your average pro-capitalist and pro-fascist historian or demographer catch you saying that.

@Lookout especially since the Wilson admin has pretty
much been one huge lie.

wilson was on par w/clinton for being against
the people.

https://therealnews.com/stories/d-day-how-the-us-supported-hitlers-rise-...
(text or video/audio)

Paul Jay and author Peter Kuznick discuss, D-Day was also the moment where the United States' opposition to communism could no longer outweigh its tacit acceptance of Nazism, and the U.S. industrialists who helped rearm Germany after World War I could no longer profit from Hitler's Germany.

“In the aftermath of [World War I], there was such strong anti-war sentiment throughout Europe and throughout the United States that people were very, very loath to get involved in another war, and they were willing to tolerate things they perhaps shouldn't have,” Kuznick said. “The attitude in the United States was that the United States had been effectively suckered into the war by the munitions manufacturers and the bankers. That instead of it being a noble cause to make the world safe for democracy, to fight the war to end all wars, it was really a war to secure the vast Morgan loans to the British and the French and way to fatten the coffers of DuPont and the other munitions makers.”

...and Russia who primarily won WWII and China, who suffered mightily, were not invited to the WWII celebration? Seems about right doesn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdl1Rp6u09Y (7.5 min)