Assange charged for 17 counts under the espionage act
Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/23/2019 - 4:06pm
This is madness. It is the end of national security journalism and the first amendment. https://t.co/wlhsmsenFw
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) May 23, 2019
Both the U.K. and Sweden have laws against extraditing people for espionage or if they face the death penalty. Will those two countries break their laws for the US to get its pound of flesh? The U.K. courts have previous precedent against extraditing one of their citizens to the US because he would have been charged under the espionage act. (source)
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Who's pockets is Amnesty International in?
Amnesty International declares Julian Assange “not a prisoner of conscience”
Jesus Tapdancing Christ.
Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
I don't know what else to say. This is beyond travesty. The entire world needs to rise up in unison.
More from the article
Remember the outrage when Kasshogi was dismembered by the Saudis from every main stream journalist? Sadly every one of them has stayed silent on what's happening to Julian and Chelsea.
it seems that laura
tiernan was incorrect, which is why i've been asking if your/wikileaks retweet had mentioned 'death penalty'. this morning andre damon at wsws is up with 'New charges against Julian Assange under the Espionage Act criminalize journalism' 24 May 2019, and he's read and commented on two pieces at the NYT, *and* he's read the indictment. the most salient sections:
“tool of Russia’s election interference,”
Again, what interference? Democrats say the Mueller report documents it, but the released parts don't.
Such a damning report should be made public so we can all see for ourselves. Enough of the Star Chamber jurisprudence.
EDIT:
Perhaps like the Scopes Trial we should be glad this is happening so the deceit and lies can be seen for what they are. Assange is is a spy for releasing Gitmo torture videos? Then the defense should demand that the jury see those videos so they can evaluate for themselves the national security aspects. After all, the videos are now in the wild anyway.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
glad? no way i can
agree, gawd's blood. also i just added kevin zeese's clarification to the indictment's claims:
Legally, can there be a conspriacy if the parties never
directly communicated? If the "conspiracy" consists of reading public statements?
Then many readers of this blog are conspirators also. I think that theory stretches the first amendment to the breaking point.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
kevin zeese
on the popular resistance newsletter today further clarifies damon above:
from kevin zeese:
Your sig line says it all.
A pathetic and I would add ignorant nation, ruled by stupidity and wallowing happily in it like WWF "wrestlers" in their own shit (where the old adage is wallowing like a pig that's an insult to the pig here since pigs don't wallow in their own shit but humans sure as hell do seem to enjoy it, especially of the USAin variety).
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Sweden has twice dropped the charges against Assange
Julian was free to leave Sweden after they decided that there wasn't anything to charge him for. Pathetic and ignorant is exactly what people are if they are cheering this action. The dumb f'ck s don't remember that Julian and Chelsea exposed the war crimes of the Bush administration. Instead they think that he's been charged because he helped Russia get Trump elected. Just imagine if it had been Bernie's campaign that rigged the primary against Herheinous and Assange showed them the proof? Same thing happened to Greenwald. When he was exposing Cheney's dirt they were all for it, but once he exposed Obama's.... F'cking hypocrites.
ETA there are many links in a comment on this article that describes how AI has sold out. One says that the person who created it resigned after it was infiltrated by the CIA. And that they helped spread the false accusations that Iraqi troops were throwing babies out of incubators. Remember that? The woman who said that in court was never in Kuwait to see that happen. She was a student in NYC IIRC.
Freedom Rider: Human Rights Industry Protects Imperialism
Margaret goes on to say that human rights watch has also sold out. I knew that, but not to the extent.
A little harsh on pro wrestlers, to compare them
to those sociopathic monsters. Actually pro wrestlers are more honest in their fictional enterprise than politicians and military men are in their real-word enterprises...
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@snoopydawg Not prisoners of
AI is nothing but organized virtue signaling for the benefit of the oligarchy.
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
Or who's putting a gun to their heads?
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
Tulsi would pardon him(& she calls out the surveillance state)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XUzKlhDZDM&t=199s
Don't hold your breath waiting for Bernie on this subject.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
Not the point.
(Edited for extraneous word. I blame furious fingers).
i agree;
and thank you. on later edit: why now tulsi? have you seen the msnbc poll on wikileaks on twitter noting that 89% of USians don't think assange should be prosecuted?
Is that true?
Unless it's a wild outlier, 89% against prosecution would suggest that it's not the abysmal character of the American people that is responsible for these atrocities, but rather the absymal character of the U.S. ruling class and their chief ministers: politicians and the press.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
it was an msnbc
poll, but i was wrong, it was 94%. i hadn't taken time to check the internals of the poll, but not many days later wikileaks did retweet tulsi's non-prosecution position. all i'm asking is 'why now?' after all these years he's been in such dire jeopardy?
same for this 'news' at the intercept, such great support for assange, i mean for the trump resistance, after any number of hits and smears their 'journalists' did on assange:
“Let me be clear: it is a disturbing attack on the First Amendment for the Trump administration to decide who is or is not a reporter for the purposes of a criminal prosecution,” Sanders wrote in a tweet Friday afternoon after The Intercept contacted his office for comment. “Donald Trump must obey the Constitution, which protects the publication of news about our government.”
Warren distanced herself from Assange but condemned the Justice Department’s move to curtail press freedom. “Assange is a bad actor who has harmed U.S. national security — and he should be held accountable,” Warren said in a statement. “But Trump should not be using this case as a pretext to wage war on the First Amendment and go after the free press who hold the powerful accountable everyday.”
“This is not about Julian Assange,” Wyden said in a statement. “This is about the use of the Espionage Act to charge a recipient and publisher of classified information. I am extremely concerned about the precedent this may set and potential dangers to the work of journalists and the First Amendment.”
kinda rachel maddow and her 'new mind', no?
what Tulsi Gabbard is trying to do
But what Tulsi Gabbard is trying to do is address the root cause of Julian Assange's problems (the power of the military-industrial-political complex to pre-censor what we're allowed to hear about and punish those who publish beyond those norms) while making it clear that it's quite reasonable to maintain that Assange has done nothing wrong.
If I had the freebie publicity to give that Tulsi Gabbard does, I'd be doing just what she did. Thoth only knows there's plenty of anti-Assange bias out there; we ought not deprecate folks who argue in his favor in public.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I don't disagree with that.
What I bristle against is having one of the first comments about a horrifying, immediate issue seek directly to tie it to the horse race. This isn't a "my candidate is better than yours!" moment, which is exactly how it read to me.
Of course, everyone's MMV.
what a. cluster-fuck.
RT.com fleshed it out:
Up to 170 yrs in prison: US slaps Julian Assange with 17 more charges under Espionage Act, 23 May, 2019
wonder who flipped on him at the GJ? testilying dumbsheit-borg?
ah, Amnesty's been battin' for the empire for a long time; maduro, afghanistan, just to name two. syria: remember cartalucci's link to their 'report' on 'The Human Slaughterhouse' amy goodman and CFR friend were recycling? to say the truth, i'd read that at wsws and had barely groaned.
with that NGO and HRW it's more noteworthy when they don't. that's why so many of us call it Shamnesty International.
Many people are on record stating that
no ones life was put in danger from the releases by Chelsea and Assange. The f'cking idiots on Twitter have been getting an ear full from me.
I don't see how U.K. can go against established case law, but I'm sure we'll see some tap dancing to make it happen.
exactly.
an egregious lie. iirc, kevin gosztola had said that at chelsea's court martial trial, the prosecutor (denise lind) even admitted that her revelations never injured anyone. i forget how far adrian lamo was in the mix for having her arrested.
anyway, if you have time, you might check kevin's twit account; he'll be weighing in soon. i would, but lordie, am i in a time-wringer.
p.s. on edit: i don't have the temperament to be on the twit machine.
p.p.s. on edit: i had an open tab on twitter, so i checked https://twitter.com/kgosztola; not yet.
Thanks for fleshing this out for us
I got distracted by the amnesty article and then got pissed...
I follow Kevin, but haven't seen anything from him on this.
as it turns out,
i was wrong about denise lind, but kevin explains the nuances involved here::
now this was in july 2013, but in more recent manning coverage, he may have been a bit more forceful on that score. and those more recent pieces were what i'd been hoping to find, rather than go thru his whole manning oeuvre.
but as far as 'Ecuador has also seized all of Assange’s personal belongings and will reportedly turn them over to the US, rejecting requests by his lawyers or WikiLeaks staff to retrieve them.', i'd stuck up a separate grisly post about all that criminal bullshit sometime in the past two or three weeks (i live in a time-warp). forensic examiners, etc.
So, in other words, if you're not a journalist
you can't tell the truth about U.S. military matters online. You can be tortured and indefinitely detained for that, unless you have a degree from Annenberg, a job at CNN, and Anderson Cooper's personal cell number on your speed dial.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
from hanna jonnason's
(@assange legal) twit account; note 'skripals', as well):
but no, snoopy, 170 years isn't precisely 'the death penalty', save that anyone would die in prison over that time. his swedish extradition hearing was moved to june 3, his US extreme rendition hearing is scheduled for june 12.
Procedurally, they did him a favor.
Much tougher for a British judge to approve US extradition now that there is the possibility of a death sentence, and much easier for the judge to give precedence to Swedish extradition.
I remain convinced that Trump, for all his bluster, doesn't want a Wikileaks show trial overshadowing his election run, and is doing everything he can to simply keep Assange on procedural ice until after the 2020 election.
What happens after the election is anyone's guess.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Then why is he charging him now?
It's his administration that got Ecuador to kick him out of their embassy. Pence was involved with this from the gitgo...
Competing interests.
Pence and Bolton want to waterboard him, but Bannon and the politicos don't want the headache in an election year.
So after the Brits tell Trump that their teaser conspiracy charge doesn't pass the laugh test for extradition, they all decide to compromise.
They throw the book at Assange to assuage the Security agencies and cow other whistleblowers and journalists, but they also tell the Swedes to refile on the original charge and then wait until after the refile to disclose the new indictments, so that way the Swedish hearing comes first and presumably the court rules to send him to Sweden rendering the US hearing moot.
The long term game plan is probably to extradite him from Sweden eventually, but in the meantime all the procedural red tape ties up any resolution until after election day.
All this is just a guess, but it's the only scenario that seems to make sense.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
And while Trump is playing this game
Julian is locked away in Britain's worst prison in solitary confinement and who knows what is happening to him behind closed doors? I think that you are taking this too lightly. There is a very slim chance that Assange is not going to be renditioned here and after given a show trial he will be locked up for the rest of his life. That's if he isn't executed.
I'm not taking this lightly at all.
Just saying what I think is going on.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
i don't think that for
now at least, the death penalty is on the table, and my understanding its that UK hone secretary javid is supposed to decide between extradition to sweden or the US if it comes to that (it will), but the 'greater charges' are suppoosed to be the determining factor, which is possibly why these crap ones have been added.
i'd had to go back to the link i'd provided up yonder on armed police grabbing assange's possessions including his legal defense papers and laptop to check, but as hannah jonnason noted: assange was never charged in sweden, and asked on may 13:
@AssangeLegal "Why did it take the Swedish prosecutor over a month since Assange's arrest to decide to reopen a preliminary investigation?”
It's the Espionage Act.
The death penalty is always on the table.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
fair enough,
but what i'd meant to say was 'not on the table for now...legally'. but again, i haven't even read the long wiki page i'd provided...somewhere.
but if he's extradited to amerika, you can bet your ass there'll be more charges to come, even closer to 'treason', by way of the newly subpoenaed shulte and dumbsheit-borg who've been offered immunity from their possible crimes.
the new york times is
behind a paywall for me, even in private mode. is that what it says: death penalty? so cassandra rules is wrong on her 170 years possibe sentence? it's a ver arcane law, i hadn't had tome to read the wiki, not that it's necessarily correct.
So when will Chelsea be released from jail?
If the grand jury came back with 17 charges against Julian then they no longer need Chelsea to talk to them right? So she should be released immediately. Any guesses on this happening?
Clearly, they didn't need her testimony
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Oops
Obama wanted to prosecute Assange for the same reasons
that Trump did today. Here's Robert Parry's article on this from during Obama's tenure.
ROBERT PARRY: All Investigative Journalists Do What Julian Assange Did
Worth a read.
Under Amnesty's standards, a conscientiously held belief is
something like a religious belief. A belief in the right of the public to know, which every journalist in the world could claim, seems to me to be very different from that. Much as I am heartbroken about Assange and Manning, I cannot blame AI for following its own standards.
Moreover, we are talking about a defense, not granting asylum or anything of that nature. AI is not his only source of a defense. It seems to me that journalists' associations should, and probably will, join in his defense and people from all over the world will donate to it.
I realize that my opinion will be very unpopular here. However, I must post what I believe to be true.
I get what you are saying.
I really hate the timing, when they did not need to announce their position at all.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Based upon what Snoopy posted, it seems that the organization.
that announced AI's decision was not AI but the Assange Defence Fund. And my guess would be that AI wrote the Assange Defence Fund to inform the Fund that AI would follow the case closely but not get involved (at this point) because the Fund had asked AI to get involved and AI was replying to the request.
(Because the issue is so emotionally-charged, I expected personal attacks. Thanks for not doing that.)
Good for you
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
The parameters for a religious belief are not the issue
in this instance, but the parameters of a conscientiously held belief. To parrot the language, an example might be a conscientious objector.
Quakers are conscientious objectors because of their religion. However, an atheist can qualify for conscientious objector status, if the belief is held as seriously as a devout religious person holds his or her beliefs. (Bernie applied for conscientious objector status. He seems to be an ethnic Jew and, based upon his own description of his spiritual beliefs, close to an atheist, when compared with a Quaker or an Orthodox Jew.) So can a religious person whose religion does not require him or her to refuse to serve in a war.
My prior post said something about "every journalist in the world," but even that was too restrictive. I'm not a journalist and I, too, have a deep belief in everyone's right to know. If a poll question were phrased correctly, I'm guessing just about everyone in the world would stand in favor of the right of the public to know. Would that make anyone jailed over that belief a prisoner of conscience? I don't think that is what Amnesty ever had in mind.
Remember, wikileaks was a for profit publisher when this occurred. If it were the head of the New York Times in danger of being extradited, instead of the head of wikileaks, would you have expected AI to provide a defense for the head of the NYT?
How is AI screwing Assange over, anyway? As my prior post said, I cannot blame an organization for following its own standards. It's not as though AI has excess funds and resources and nothing else to do with them. And, we are talking a defense in court, not asylum or a pardon or anything that AI can do that no one else can do. A defense in court means lawyers volunteering or someone coming up with money to pay them. I don't think either will be a problem. If you don't donate to his defense fund because of your standards for the kinds of things to which you donate, will you be screwing Assange over?
I have cried over Assange more than once over these years, including when he got arrested. So, I get the impetus to find fault with anyone who doesn't pitch in to help him in some way. However, this case does not meet AI's standards. And AI does good work, with a focus on torture and similar violations.
For example, iff it had not been for AI, I never would have known that we never stopped torturing "some folks" in black holes like Bagram after Obama got elected. Never stopped extraordinary rendition, either. Maybe no one would have, but I sure would not have.
I'd agree with you if they were consistent
and applied their beliefs fairly. But the point of the article I posted doesn't think that they are doing that or upholding what they were founded on.
If amnesty international is in bed with the CIA and other intelligence agencies then it should be taken into account. It really doesn't matter what amnesty does though because they are powerless to stop what is being done to Assange and Manning. The bottom line here is that Trump is going to prosecute Assange for doing journalism, but claiming something else so he can be charged. The Parry article is a good read as is the one from the BAR. Of course your opinion is welcome here.
I disagree with the article and my first post on this
thread said why.
That some writer (Laura Tiernan, whoever she is) of the World Socialist Website thinks differently than I do about whether Assange's case falls within AI's standards doesn't affect my statements.
As far as being inconsistent, the article from the World Socialist Website that you excerpted above says only that the AI has involved itself in many more cases from other countries than it has in cases from the US. Geography doesn't tell me anything about whether the AI is applying its own standards inconsistently.
For example, the US is far from perfect. However, when was the last time the US jailed anyone for having the "wrong" religious belief or stoned someone to death for being gay? So, I understand why the AI might be more involved in other countries than it is in the US. (Let's remember, no organization, including AI, has unlimited resources. Triage is necessary.) However, Ms. Tierney did not even get that detailed. She merely provided a list of countries, period. I don't know what I am supposed to do with that. She offered no analysis of the "conscientiously held belief" standard whatsoever. ("If Assange and Manning are not prisoners of conscience, then who is?" is not analysis.)
Moreover, AI has said it is not going to involve itself in Assange's defense, although it has been watching the case closely. The current defense of Assange is not even against the US (yet). It is against the UK. So, I'm not even sure what Ms. Tierney's list of countries proves.
If you know of a specific case like that of Assange where the AI helped a publisher avoid extradition, let's discuss the specifics of that case and see if it really was like Assange's case. Short of that, I don't know how anyone can say fairly that AI is not being consistent in how it applies its "conscientiously held belief" standard.
Of course. But "if" is a huge word. What is the evidence that AI is in bed with the CIA? Ms. Tierney's list of countries? If so, I think that's a stretch. I should perhaps add here that the AI certainly spoke out against torture by the Obama administration. Therefore, it's not as though AI says nothing about the behavior of the US in general or the CIA in particular
I'm sorry, but I don't know which Parry article discusses inconsistency by AI in applying its own "conscientiously held belief" standard. Did you link it somewhere on this thread?
J W Lindh
was just released. I think that will be a "floor" for what they have in store for Assange. There was an article about a prisoner in the Colorado Super Max who died recently. After 35 years in solitary confinement. I also expect that most of the "evidence" against Assange has been re classified and testimony in court will be closed and transcripts redacted in the US press, even though the information is out there. I mean, why inform people of the shitty things our government does? It might create sympathy with the jurors.
I fear for Snowden, though he seems to have anticipated the response to his actions. When information passes through you hands about what the US does to people they deem enemies you pay attention. Maybe the US will call on the Israelis to pull an Eichmann and smuggle him out. About time they earned their keep, right?
Excellent Twitter thread on this
Click on the tweet below and unroll the thread.
A more succinct tweet.
Even Charles Oertel who is certainly not a liberal had this comment.
It is beginning to appear that some MSM journos are finally concerned about the ramifications of Julian Assange's arrest, detention and charging under the Espionage Act. It may be too little, too late now.
And John Pilger has put the MSM on notice that they will be next.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
"Mayday scenario for First Amendment enthusiasts"
The extent to which the American public has been successfully propagandized is staggering.
"Assange is not a journalist." Pardon my french, but fuck everyone who thinks and says that.
Though I suppose it serves a dual purpose - it justifies both his current treatment and the fact that no similar charges will be brought against the NYT, useful idiots that they are.
Occupy was a Frst Amendment issue
Edit to add: Our local Peace vigil was also about the First Amendment because we held it every Saturday on the sidewalk in front of the county courthouse. Because we were all older citizens, perhaps they saw us as non threatening. We had one guy who was a WW II veteran and stood with us until he turned 92.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
That horse has already left the barn. The US has already
ignored most or all of the so-called Bill of Rights. (The first eight amendments in the BOR are actually a list of certain things that the US government may not do, with the Ninth and Tenth being broaders reservations of rights by the people and the states.)
I absolutely agree with you that Occupy was an exercise of the rights to assemble and the right to make statements without being silenced by state or federal government.
Assange is a publisher, not a reporter or a writer of news
or editorials or columns. If that is the distinction being made, fine. Then the head of the NYT, WAPO, et al. are not journalists, either, but publishers of information. That is not the issue. The issue is whether publishers get First Amendment protection. The Pentagon Papers case, whose title was United States v. New York Times Company (or vice versa--I never remember which, should have settled that question.
This raises my blood pressure
This is not the only person floating this crap that Trump only charged Assange under the espionage act so that he can't testify about where he got the DNC emails. How people can't see that this is being done because he spilled the beans on country's war crimes is beyond me.
Here's a few from over yonder
Te other point people are making is that Assange will have the right to a fair trial and he can lay out his defense then. No one charged under the EA gets a fair trial. The defense is handcuffed from the get go and no defense is allowed to be offered up. There are many articles on just Chelsea Manning's trial alone that would let people know that. Plus the one I posted above from Risen shows exactly what happened at his trial.
via RT:
‘Everyone else must take my place’: Assange in letter from British prison, 24 May, 2019
" In a handwritten letter from Belmarsh prison, WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange says he is being denied a chance to defend himself and that elements in the US that “hate truth, liberty and justice” want him extradited and dead.
The letter was sent to independent British journalist Gordon Dimmack. It was dated May 13 – ten days before the US announced 17 additional charges under the Espionage Act against the jailed whistleblower.
In light of the new indictment, Dimmack read out the letter in a YouTube video. A photo of the handwritten note was soon posted online as well.
“I have been isolated from all ability to prepare to defend myself: no laptop, no internet, ever, no computer, no library, so far, but even if I get access it will just be for a half an hour, with everyone else, once a week,” Assange wrote. “The other side? A superpower that has been preparing for 9 years, with hundreds of people and untold millions spent on the case.”
I am defenseless.
“I am unbroken, albeit literally surrounded by murderers, but, the days where I could read and speak and organize to defend myself, my ideals, and my people are over until I am free! Everyone else must take my place,” Assange wrote in the letter.
The US government, or rather, those regrettable elements in it that hate truth, liberty and justice, want to cheat their way into my extradition and death, rather than letting the public hear the truth, for which I have won the highest awards in journalism and have been nominated 7 times for the Nobel Peace Prize,” Assange wrote.
Truth, ultimately, is all we have.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es6OT4VsQAo&feature=youtu.be]
we're a bit past this on the thread,
but as i'd indicated earlier:
‘Venezuela: Amnesty International in Service of Empire’., roger harris, may 21, counterpunch
I certainly agree with amnesty on this
This country should be punished for putting illegal sanctions on Venezuela. Every time someone tells me that Venezuelans are dying because they can't get food and medicine I tell them that it's because of our sanctions and other interference in their country.
The funny thing about sanctions is that they are put on in hopes that people will rise up against their leaders. But this country has had sanctions put upon its own citizens and yet here we sit in this pot of water that keeps getting warmer.
The guy who created this organization said he left it after they sold out to the CIA.
yeah, and a hella lot of
the DSAs (silicon valley ro khanna and friends) get away with criminalizing the 'corrupt, killing protestors maduro regime' but saying end the sanctions, they hurt the other citizens' and 'no regime change'.
yes to this:
boiling frogs, but still, the citizens and military of 'the maduro regime' are standing strong so far.
g' night.
amy goodman had jennifer robinson
on yesterday, and some of the main questions i still have she didn't quite answer, one being the death penalty. well, others as well, but she (and a clip from the great michael ratner) did address one of mr. wd's big Qs as to assange's citizenship v. the applicability of (the murky) US law espionage act. anyway, luckily there's a transcript, although i always love hearing jen speak.
if corbyn becomes PM: who can say. but at least he'd appoint a new home secretary, but then he'd also shown his true colors about the 'new re-investigation' and extradition to sweden earlier. of course we can hope he'd change his mind, yes? oh, and she'd not mentioned the sweden to US fast track extradition, and i'd thought it was she who first alerted us to that.
anyhoo, as i'd said, amy gets some things right, and julian is one of them. ; )
as no one had
seemed to notice this, i'd finally posted this interview with jennifer robinson as a stand-alone post. i heart jen most sincerely; what a peach of a woman, what a peach of an attorney in his defense, although she's been with him since she'd helped him create the freedom of the press foundation with michael ratner and john perry barlow (may the latter two rest in power).