Rachel Sides with Bolton on Venezuela
Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 05/04/2019 - 4:35pm
Shocking MSNBC segment in which @maddow sympathizes with poor John Bolton who has a tough job bc he wants to go to war against Venezuela but Trump is not complying bc Putin. No joke, that’s actually what she says https://t.co/COYVVtZNfB
— Rania Khalek (@RaniaKhalek) May 4, 2019
How much further will Rachel fall from her days at Air America when she raged against the war Bolton got us into?
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Hypocrisy indeed
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Trump Derangement Syndrome on steroids
Should Madcow seek medical help?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
No easy remedy
Medical help would be called for in the case of an addict. In this case the addicting drug appears to be The Benjamins. I'm afraid this is beyond the pale for an average sawbones.
Why do you hate Israel, and also, Jews?
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Might wanna add a snark tag /nt
Rachel... proof women can be just as awful as men.
Her behavior is at this point identical to Rush Limbaugh during the height of the Clinton years. Occasionally right, but only when Clinton was so wrong that even the media had to admit there was something off...
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
I've been calling her Glen Beck of MSNBC
And Russia Gate is her Birther Gate. Just sad to see so many people lying about this or worse believing it.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Ya know
Glen might be a little less deranged than Rachel. Tough call.
You guys are right and furthermore
I think many deep into the team politics, vote blue no matter who, etc. really wanted a Limbaugh Beck or O’Riely of their own. So now they have someone to give them simple answers to all life’s problems (it’s all the other team’s fault!) and to confirm how right they are sticking with their team. Trusting Maddow means never having to admit Trump is another link in the chain, rather than some aberration that we can just remove and all will be well again.
Of course that she keeps the sheep herded is a feature, not a bug.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
She has literally lost her goddamned mind. Yes, Literally.
As in her brains have turned to goo, dribbled out of her ears and leaked between the floor boards, never to be found.
The Democrats are exactly where the Repigs were 10 years ago.
And the Repigs are even crazier than that. Fuck all of them.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
That latter's not even clear anymore
Blue Team's been hitting the collectivist hate-politics so hard that Red-Team publications have been repeatedly managing to gather up what I believe to be the more accurate take on some what-passes-these-days-for-stories (#MeToo and rape hysteria, the politicization of "gaming", etc) like English chestnuts.
The stupidest mistake Blue-Team could possibly make has been made: Surrendering their hard-earned claim to being the side of reason and truth.
EDIT: Case-In-Point: This is National Review-by-way-of-New York Post, but I thought it was funny as all blue hell: https://nypost.com/2019/05/04/now-hillary-clintons-loss-is-being-blamed-...
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Both right-wing factions turned that into a business model.
re: "Politicization of gaming", both sides whine about the same stupid shit when the real problems are ignored (i.e. developers putting lighters to code monkeys' paychecks to make them work overtime). Capitalism's Hand of Sterculius strikes again.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
"Hand of Sterculius"
I tried to look that up, but couldn't find anything (save for the Wikipedia entry on the Roman god of manure).
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Hence the parody on the Hand of Midas.
Except everything someone touches turns to shit.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I like it; I'll try to remember that
That said, the idea that gaming is somehow a hotbed of bigotry in any way shape or form is like saying Saudi Arabia is a lesbian's paradise. A longstanding reputation, even if that's all it is, doesn't just flip 180 degrees overnight.
That, and the whole idea of stereotyping and politicizing "gamers" is AT LEAST as stupid as doing so with "readers" or "watchers".
Yes, let's use a single word to encapsulate people who like Gone With The Wind, people who like The Naked Gun, people who like Monday Night Football, people who like anime, people who like MTV's Jackass, and people who like The Mind's Eye CGI videos. That's literally what it's like (actually, no - it's much, much worse). It's so stupid that I have a hard time believing I'm even interpreting what all I'm hearing correctly - because if so, it's nothing short of Bizarro-World they're talking about. This CAN'T be real (or it's a massive, massive misunderstanding).
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Video games have been a punching bag for decades.
"They'll rot your brain," parents always used to tell us. Not so long ago it was television and radio.
Then it became "Video games make kids violent." or "Video games cause mass shootings." (Even president Dipshit used that talking point). Hell, the original Doom was blamed for mass shooters in the 90s.
'Social' media has only made the reactionary mindset worse.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
look around you.
I'm curious as to where you see significant divergence between the reality we live in, versus decades of predictions about the possible negative effects of a popular culture (aimed at children and young adults) that glorifies hedonism and violence -- not to mention stupidity.
People generally seem willing -- even eager -- to believe that particular elements of popular culture (i.e., the elements of popular culture they don't themselves enjoy) can affect society in particular ways (i.e., ways they themselves view as negative). Often, they will go so far as to label those elements of popular culture as propaganda: A conscious effort by malicious actors within the "culture industry" to effect a social or political agenda.
They also generally seem willing -- even eager -- to believe that particular elements of popular culture could possibly affect society in particular positive ways, if only the purveyors of those elements would apply themselves to the task. In other words, they'd like to see a conscious effort by actors within the "culture industry" to effect a social or political agenda.
Yet, they generally seem unwilling -- even angrily so -- to entertain the possibility that particular elements of popular culture (i.e., the elements of popular culture in which they immerse themselves) might possibly affect society in particular negative ways.
Curious creatures, are these humans.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Ha ha! Old enough to recall when *comics* would rot your brain?
Now, around the world, they’re culture and literature and movies and big business.
http://www.nact.jp/english/exhibitions/2015/magj/
you might be interested in this piece
and aspie
describing the way the CIA/MIC is using games to promote shit.
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/04/15/video-how-the-pentagon-and-cia-push-v...
(6 min)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72v7PWJUyxY]
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
To be fair...
Call of Duty hardly counts for anything. That shit's for dumb jocks and (on the more sympathetic end of the spectrum) fundie kids whose parents won't let them play fantasy games.
Still, "gamer" means nothing. The idea of an organized "gaming culture" is anathema to the creative arts, and anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something...most likely Mountain Dew.
Don't even get me started on the difference between "video games" and "computer games" - not to mention tabletop games! Are we REALLY supposed to think of these things (and more!) as all one homogeneous thing???
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
I plead ignorance...
however I did find the propaganda effect interesting
We play music instead of games. Well we do play Croquet and an occasional game of horse shoes. We used to play cribbage back in our college days. I didn't even go for pin ball much less video games...pac man and so on.
Each to their own. Enjoy the games you like.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Gods bless you, then
Self-aware ignorance is something the world needs more of - especially when what we're really talking about a dearth of is 'information' at best (mostly just 'data', or in some cases, 'dogma'), not 'knowledge' at all. Gods protect everyone who is still "ignorant" of garbage. That word really needs to stop being used as a pejorative. It ultimately just means "you disagree for some reason I don't understand" - hence it is the truly ignorant who USE it.
The younger generation still needs its parents, perhaps even now more than ever. No American under 40 has any real conception of life in a healthy society (at least I was lucky enough to grow up in halcyon-era Silicon Valley, which was the closest thing to it), and of those, none presently under 25 even understands what a FREE society looks like.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
All right, that's it!
Madcow has officially gone from a joke and a sad embarrassment to a homicidally insane monster. No sympathy, no redemption.
On to Biden since 1973
Well, come on. It's not Maddow, it's MSNBC.
She does work for the oligarchy's media and gets paid a lot of money for it. I'm sorry, but the only reason this would be shocking to someone is if they seriously don't know how things work. Those that have continued to watch Maddow on MSNBC are still caught in the matrix.
We all pretty much know that, Al.
Some of us just like to watch the mighty Wurlitzer in action. I don't have cable TV. I like to see what they're up to.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Touche
"Some of us just like to watch the mighty Wurlitzer in action."
I guess we all have our individual ways of processing information ; )
I wasn't talking about the people here of which
I assume most people don't watch her but some do. I was referring to the tweet and all the commenters and the progressive bloc in general that follows her. sorry to be so offensive to anyone on C99, once again. If people want to take it personal, then so be it.
Big Al, is your interpretation similar to my interpretation,
which is something like this … “I don’t think people here are caught up in a matrix of ‘naievity’ (not knowing how things work), but might instead be caught up in a matrix of ‘drama' ".
I can understand that janis,
I was referring to the tweet sd enclosed and the people who apparently are shocked that Maddow is doing this. I didn't assume sd or anyone here would be shocked because she's already shown her true colors and people here understand the nature of the oligarchy controlled media. I should have been more clear on who I was referring to as still being caught in the matrix. Not the people that watch for drama, the people that watch because they believe the bullshit.
I understand Al
I’ve hardly any family or friends left in America who I can talk to about the state of American affairs anymore. Once freer thinking people I’ve known seem to have been assimilated into a universal disorder, largely created by the media they listen to.
It's absolutely true,
you are what you eat.
That makes me a portobello
topped with fig and blue cheese because of the leftovers I just ate.
IMO Rachel owns this herself
Sure she is working for the PTBs mouthpiece media, but she was against everything she spouts now on a nightly basis. I listened to her on Air America where she constantly talked about our war crimes in Iraq. Hence the tag of how she can look at herself in the mirror or come to work every day like she asks Bolton.
Then there's her being on board with the Venezuelan coup as Mate says in his tweet. She was against Trump meeting with Kim and was okay with him bombing Syria.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I agree snoopy, with your assessment of Rachel
but because of it I choose to ignore her, like I do celebrities.
I would guess
it's a really expensive mirror.
I bet it has blindfolds on it
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
can we give this fearless
congresswoman a clap or two?
I want to research AOC more
on her probably modest FP stances, but it does indeed appear she is taking the same kinda cowardly, eyes-averted stance on some of these foreign matters as Bernie and Liz Warren do. Very disappointing. A reminder there is not even a bare quorum among Dem/lefty leaders taking progressive positions in FP. They run and hide, don't comment, or give a weasely half-in favor, half against answer. Maduro is a dictator who brutally mistreats his people (notice no mention of US sanctions hurting those people), free and fair elections need to be held -- but I'm against US military intervention. Thanks for that bold courage.
Only Tulsi Gabbard has consistently spoken out against our regime change wars. Code Pink too. You can count the FP public critics on one hand.
You would think it would be obvious that our military budget and foreign wars are soaking up so much of the budget that should be redirected to all the great domestic matters that need attention, which these silent/disappointing progressive leaders lament our not addressing. The math and the logic are quite evident.
Well, iirc, it took a few years for lib Dems and some sane Rs to come around on the VN War, but only when it became clear that the public was getting fed up. Then it was safe to stand boldly against the war.
Well, talk is cheap.
Tulsi Gabbard has spoken out against regime-change wars, but she still votes FOR Pentagon funding, in the annual National Defense Authorization Act. I wish her spoken positions more closely aligned to her actual votes.
oof, this is a tough one.
not only are candidates' and electeds' words and evolving FP stands fluid, but it depends what one reads into them...because they're so inclined, perhaps? i just looked for anything clse to 'tulsi schools pompeo on VZ', found this, and no...she really didn't.
she was far more as a signatory to ro khanna's letter to pompeo, in my estimation:
and so on. signatories:
The 15 co-signers of the letter are: Reps. Pramila Jayapal (WA-17), Mark Pocan (WI-2), Raul Grijalva (AZ-3), Henry C. "Hank" Johnson (GA -4), Adriano Espaillat (NY-13), Ilhan Omar (MN-5), Rashida Tlaib (MI-13), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY-14), Ayanna Pressley (MA-7), Nydia M. Velázquez (NY-7), José E. Serrano (NY-15), Tulsi Gabbard (HI-2), Karen Bass (CA-37), Danny K. Davis (IL-7) and Jan Schakowsky (IL-9).
a criminal dictator, but no regime change, end the sanctions; it's not the citizens' fault. i'm supposed to call that 'anti-war' or respect it?
ilhan was gettin' a ton of grief on twitter for tweeting nonsense while the idf's been bombing the hell out of gaza again; she finally condemned it on twitter, as did bernie; he'd recently condemned the *current government* of israel. as well. so yanno; folks make of it what they will...and do.
Actions speak louder than words
and are usually much more revealing.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
There were people with the integrity to leave MSNBC.
Rachel Madow doesn't get points for being a working stiff.
Keith Olbermann's Countdown
I can remember when Maddow was a frequent guest on Keith Olbermann's Countdown. Olbermann would rail against the Iraq War and Rachel was his cheerleader. When Olbermann was absent, Maddow would fill in for him.
I used to like Rachel. A lot.
But then she lost her mind on Russia and became a sad caricature of a real journalist.
She didn't lose her mind.
She sold out.
OT...."what's worse than soldiers dying in vein?
More soldiers dying in vein. Listen to Gravel speaking about the Iraq war during the 2008 debate.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Nuclear power and soldiers dying in vain
Two of the many deeply tragic and shameful activities of the American government.
Two of the many
How can people live with themselves after making the decisions they do? I wish I could understand that.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I know what you mean snoopy, I ask myself the same question.
I usually answer myself, "I pity them for their lack of humanity and absence from themselves".
DNC has moved the goalposts and upped it to 100,000 donors
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=DNC+debates+20+participants+100%2C000+donors
Yep
Plus they can kick anyone out if there are more than 20 candidates running. Have they ever had these rules before or is this being done so they can let the supers decide who wins?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Nope, this is a new level of corruption
Maybe we should just go back to smoke-filled rooms and drop the pretense that We the Great Unwashed have anything whatsoever to say about the political process.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I'm thinking that is the plan this time around
There were only half the number of people running in 2008, but this time they are flooding the field so it goes to second round voting and the super delegates get to choose. Either ByeDone or Herheinous is going to be the pick. I'm wondering what people will do if they screw Bernie again?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Don't you mean "When"?
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Well
Wasn't Glenn Beck originally on MSNBC before he went to Fox?
Not MSNBC, me thinks
You might be thinking of him on CNN/HLN. He had a program that ran - if I remember correctly - every weekday evening. I believe it ran about two years before he moved to Fox. Some of the guys at work watched it, so I couldn't help but see it.
Cynical ploy to get her numbers up?
After Mueller her numbers dropped big time. Is her new found empathy for war mongers aiming to appeal to Trump supporters to up her numbers?
Seem to be there was an underlying sense of panic in her voice. Did she talk just a little faster than normal? She averted her eyes alot from the camera it seemed to me.
She's on the money
Seems to me she knows her customers fairly well. That is, there seems to be no lack of Democrats who completely qualify under the War Monger heading. I'm finding far more pushback against war with those on the Right. Not all, mind you, but the (so-called) Populous Right anyway.
Ah yeah
I made a mistake mixing that up.
Rachel believes Bolton is telling the truth about Russia
interference with his little coup. If Bolton says that Russia told Madura to stay put as Pompeo said then by golly it happened. There was a time when Rachel knew that they lied to us every time they opened their mouths. But not now. No siree bob.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt