Game Over? Not Really. The Time has Come to Investigate the Perpatrators of the Russia Hoax

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This morning's press conference with Attorney General Bill Barr, as he released the redacted report of the Mueller investigation to Congress, came and went without a single surprise for any well-informed person with critical thinking skills.

If you followed the attempt of Obama Administration officials to sabotage and overturn the 2016 presidential election from its very beginning in the summer of 2016 — while using expert and professional sources of news as reported by alternative media — then you already knew that there was no collusion between this President and the Russian government. Even before the inauguration in February 2017 — based on the only available physical evidence of this event — you already knew that:

The DNC emails that were published by Wikileaks were not hacked by the Russians or anyone else.

You already knew that those emails were copied to portable media from inside the headquarters of the DNC.

You already knew that the copied emails were given to a former Britich Ambassador, who carried them to London and passed them to Wikileaks.

You already knew that there is no physical evidence of the spurious charges of hacking made against the Russian government.

You already knew that if such evidence existed, then the NSA would definitely have captured it. And, they can not produce it.

You already knew that CrowdStrike is a government contractor that destroyed the log files of the DNC server that was allegedly hacked, and has no evidence to back their fantasy misinformation about Russian hackers released to the public.

You already knew that CrowdStrike misinformation was the sole "evidence" that co-conspirators in the Intelligence Community based their Russian Election Meddling assessment on — as the disclaimer within the assessment clearly states.

You already knew that the Intelligence Community was illegally spying on the Trump campaign in summer 2016 without search warrants, and were unable to come up with any evidence of collusion with Russia.

You already knew that the Intelligence conspirators then used myriad falsified evidence — partly paid for by the DNC — to obtain a FISA search warrant in late September 2016 to cover their crimes in the event that Clinton lost.

You already knew that the Poisoned Tree where all subsequent evidence and allegations would come from, is still in place right now. Waiting to be exposed.

So, it will come as no surprise to you that two years of aggressive and expensive investigation into this matter has resulted in the fact that:

President Donald Trump did NOT collude with Russia. No American colluded with Russia, including Roger Stone.

President Trump did not obstruct justice in this investigation. In fact, according to the Department of Justice, he was more transparent and cooperative than any President before him undergoing similar investigations. Furthermore, President Trump and his legal team requested that today's report be sent to Congress without any retractions from the White House.

So, what comes next? Congress will immediately put on a months-long ShitShow, as only they can do. It will be a desperate and embarrassing waste of time and it will amount to absolutely nothing whatsoever. I'll skip the details, the highlights, and the ultimate failures because you already know what that looks like.

But this is by no means over. Not even for a minute.

It is time to investigate and prosecute those members of the Federal government who foisted this HOAX on the American People through unconstitutional criminal action — and they almost got away with it. We already knew, since the end of 2016, who most of the perpetrators are. Now we know who they all are. President Trump is onboard with this plan, and he has the evidence in his top drawer.

The costs of this unprecedented criminal conspiracy to this nation and its People have been enormous and permanently damaging.
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@Unabashed Liberal made several (I think about 8) criminal referrals to the DOJ. He says it is up to DOJ to work on these, and he refused yesterday (or the day before) to disclose the people to the Fox interviewer (which I think is the right thing to do - not disclose until an appropriate time, maybe after a grand jury indictment??).

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/devin-nunes-sends-trump-russia-i...

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Really, something like this needs an entire Commission. From what I know about it, it's very unclean and reaches deep into the US political system, including judicial. Congress, for the most part, seems to be utterly clueless. They're like temps. How is that possible? I guess that's why they call it Deep State.

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He's busy doing everything that the master class has wanted done for a very long time. People say that McConnell won't do anything to upset Trump's base, but he's actually more interested in not upsetting Trump's donors and the people who are really pulling his strings.
This saga is great for distracting people from the real issues affecting the country. One look at the wreckage list on ToP for the last two years shows that. No one covers any of the more serious problems facing us because their noses are sniffing out everything regarding Russia, Trump's actions and other silly stuff.

Nancy knows that there are real issues that she could use to try to impeach him, but since congress is just as guilty she won't. The emoluments clause is out now too since the DOJ has said that it's okay for people involved government as long as it just helps their personal businesses.

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proceedings to go forward, but, she may have no choice.

First of all, consider how clueless her Party Base is--think DKos.

Whew!

Secondly, if Dems weren't worried, they wouldn't be running 2-3 candidates representing almost every special interest group that comprises the Party. It's clear that most of the candidates "don't have a snowball's chance in h*ll" to win--so, it must indicate a high degree of concern and/or desperation within the Dem Party Caucus/Leadership.

To top it off, it's being done in spite of the Dems knowing that the MSM is in their hip pocket--practically, an extension of their Party.

Further, it may also depend upon what Graham does. I could be wrong, but, from watching the concern that has started setting in (with the MSM) now that Graham's declared he'll start his investigation into the FISA warrants, etc., I'm wondering if Dems might already be backed into a corner, and have to do it, in hopes that it will stall, or stop, Repubs' investigatory efforts.

Think about it--if the Repubs are correct (and I don't know if they are) that there were major violations regarding the FISA warrants, etc., and they can prove it--some major players may be taken down, including Dems.

(Remember, there's a claim that 'O' ordered the counter-intel investigation of DT and his campaign, in the first place--with the help of Susan Rice, and others. Dunno if that's true, BTW, since I don't follow this topic super closely.)

Anyhoo, I definitely agree that it would be political suicide for ol' Nancy to give in to the more ardent activists in the Party Base, who are clamoring for DT's head on a platter. But, she's proven that she'll do about anything she has to, in order to protect, or maintain, her 'power.'

Frankly, it wouldn't bother me if she does go along with impeachment proceedings. The backlash would be likely be substantial, and, just maybe, we'd be rid of corporatist Dems--for good!

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Hey, one can always hope . . .

Have a good one!

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@Unabashed Liberal @Unabashed Liberal just saw one of the headlines on my homepage this morning. Something about AOC continuing to push for impeachment. I wonder how her “progressive” friend Nancy feels about that? Of course I also wonder how a first term “outsider” congresswoman gets so much front page press. Wonders never cease, do they?

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... @snoopydawg , as far as I'm concerned. It's like looking at entrails to read the future.

EH? He either obstructed justice or he did not. If you can't say that he did then I would think that means he did not. Isn't this an either or question? I am either guilty or not guilty. Seems like we are having shades of Fitzmas here. Too much sand kicked on home plate to see what happened.

Is this your comment, or an import? I do know people are tripping over obstruction. But the process is clear. Any new evidence can be presented to the Attorney General to see if it comes up to the standard of obstruction. As long as Barr is AG, the evidence in Mueller's report is a no go.

You did a lot of the heavy lifting around here, so thanks, Dawg.

PS: I don't think Pelosi will allow impeachment to even be discussed.

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@Pluto's Republic Mueller's way to keep everyone accusing and questioning Trump.

Essentially, Mueller is trying to move the goal posts on the "innocent until proven guilty" concept, a rather important concept until the dems and femi-nazis decided to do away it during the SC court hearings and me-too stories. (Yeah, I used the word femi-nazis, because that is exactly what they are - how dare they mess with "innocent until proven guilty").

As Giuliani says, he has never heard of the legal standard that Mueller used in his report.

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This is my comment and I'm relying on an article I read that said either a crime has been committed or it hasn't. I'm paraphrasing from memory, but Mueller had to decide if one was committed. I don't think he could say one was because we know how many times the FBI tried to entrap him.

There wouldn't have been a Trump tower meeting if Obama's state department hadn't fixed the Russian lawyer's passport and if Fusion GPS hadn't set it up.

Lots of people here have done a great job of writing essays about the various parts of this saga. I suggested once posting an essay with all the links, but realized I don't have the time or energy to do it because there has been so many.

People can look at yours, mine and gulfgal's essays in the archives to see how well we've documented this. I'm sure I'm leaving some names off the list and I'm sorry. Peak up if you remember who else did.

I'm still pleased about how people here never drank the Russian Koop aid!

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pluto. because like the bible, marcy wheeler tells me so. what are you, some kinda commie or revisionist or something?

(srsly, though; well done, upside-down pluto amigo.)

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She said something about what she read in the Mueller report yesterday and I wanted to ask how she read it since it hasn't been released yet? But I like watching what she writes so I don't reply often because she would block me.

Hey, I'm surprised that Armando hadn't yet. I've been a little stinker in some of my replies to him. I only said one thing to another person from DK and got blocked. I was sad....

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@snoopydawg about the summary provided by Barr. It had re-appearing ink that said Trump did it all.

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A few more:

The investigation identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and the Campaign expected it would benefit from information stolen and released by the Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that member of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

We can thank Comey and Warner for killing the deal with Assange that might have debunked the fact that Russia hacked the DNC computers and gave them to Wikileaks. Another thing that people should be asking if Mueller believes that Russia hacked them is where is the proof and if he thinks they gave it to Wikileaks then why didn't Mueller interview Assange or anyone else from Wikileaks? Hmmm? Inquiring minds want to know why he did a half assed investigation. Or why no one has asked Comey why the FBI did not look at the computers if they are going to make a definitive statement that Russia did the deed?

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This?

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If so, it doesn't seem like much of a deal. Only some discussion about possibly starting talks. And I don't see anything in there where there's any suggestion that Assange will reveal his sources much less anything amounting to some kind of plea deal.

So what is really known?

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@snoopydawg

His mistake was getting involved with the Steele dossier, and then using it to get a FISA warrant.

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@Pluto's Republic might be at risk.

From what I've read, he was interviewed by Trump for the top FBI position. Then he shortly thereafter accepted the position of special counsel. So, the writer concluded that this was a conflict of interest.

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@snoopydawg keeping the scam alive.

They have a mix of reporters/commenters (but mostly conservative) who are pro and anti Trump.

It was Fox news reporters, John Solomon, Sara Carter, and Kathleen Herridge who did the heavy lifting and research in the beginning that ultimately led commenters like Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham to conclude that the Mueller thing was a hoax.

But Judge Nap is mostly pro-hoax and Chris Wallace is kind of a mixed bag.

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It gives people the impression that yes indeed Russia interfered with the election and that is what people are going to continue to believe. So even though Trump didn't collude with Vlad people still believe the first part. If Fox News posts something like that it's not without the top dudes approving it.

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@snoopydawg top dudes do and how much they intervene with programming.

I can say that I go to the Fox news website daily - usually several times, and what you presented is not representative of the entirety.

In fact, I've been off and on the website quite a bit today, and I have not seen what you posted. I'm not saying it is not there, it's just not what I've seen when I pull up the website. But I can see links to articles that are critical of Trump, so maybe it is now buried there.

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@snoopydawg you posted did finally pop up for me yesterday morning. Weird.

But I think it is a New York Times article (?)

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wall and stained glass windows.

Space Jesus is on our side for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Preach!

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this will tie into the mueller investigation eventually, i promise.

from wsws this morning: ‘US preparing more charges against Julian Assange

“On Wednesday, CNN reported US federal prosecutors confirmed there is an “ongoing criminal investigation” of Julian Assange, the 47-year-old founder of WikiLeaks. Prosecutors also indicated “affiliates” of Assange are under investigation, this according to another newly unsealed document. According to the CNN report, at least one document related to this investigation has been withheld from the public due to “ongoing activity.”
The revelation, CNN reported, “confirms CNN and other news outlets’ reporting in recent days that WikiLeaks is connected to at least one probe that could result in more criminal charges.”

“But since Assange has been imprisoned in the maximum-security Belmarsh prison, public comments made by leading Democrats and US media officials indicate that charge was not the primary aim of the US investigation.

Democratic Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer tweeted, “Now that Julian Assange has been arrested, I hope he will soon be held to account for his meddling in our elections on behalf of Putin and the Russian government.” Democratic chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Eliot Engel tweeted that Assange “time after time compromised the national security of the United States and our allies by publicly releasing classified government documents and confidential materials related to our 2016 presidential election.”

from ccn on april 17, 2019Omissions in Assange case and ongoing investigations signal broader charges to come

"“Washington(CNN) Julian Assange faced a single criminal charge when he was pulled from the Ecuadorian embassy in London last week -- but, according to a CNN review of court records [whatever that means], prosecutors have already given a roadmap about how they may be continuing to investigate WikiLeaks and suggested that more charges are to come.”

“Three ongoing criminal proceedings suggest that the Justice Department continues to target Assange. Two of these are grand jury efforts to obtain testimony from witnesses -- Manning, the Army intelligence agent-turned-leaker who's central to his case, and, separately, former Roger Stone associate Andrew Miller -- who have information about Assange and Wikileaks.

The Justice Department's rules governing grand juries say they can't keep investigating after an indictment is filed, unless they are pursuing additional charges. So far, prosecutors have been coy about why they want Assange and Miller to testify, though the two have in common that they each have info about Assange and Wikileaks.

Assange's indictment was filed more than a year ago, yet a grand jury known to be investigating WikiLeaks continues to sit in the Eastern District of Virginia.”

“On Monday, a federal judge in New York City also noted how a criminal investigation related to yet another alleged WikiLeaks leaker is ongoing.

The case, against former CIA software engineer Joshua Schulte, had originally begun as a child pornography case in August 2017 -- the type that's routinely prosecuted by federal authorities.

But in June 2018, prosecutors added to the charges against Schulte, alleging he illegally gathered classified information from the CIA on his computers with the intent to harm the US. He allegedly sent the info to WikiLeaks -- called "Organization-1" in the court record, which posted the documents. It's known as the "Vault 7" leak.”

i'd had to bingle andrew miller, but you'll know who he is.

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...but the usual dumb attempts at entrapment. I know Stone's story, which is utterly banal. He has no connection to Wikileaks. Andrew Miller is just another political dilettante. This doesn't mean that they cannot be completely destroyed via the abuse of government power. But that seems too low-life for Mueller to end his case with. He should dismiss all these charges and move on with what's left of his intellectual dignity.

The spooks are obviously doubling down again on their Russiabation fantasies. Maybe its a temper tantrum, or maybe they're trying to pound life back into their ridiculously-easy-to-debunk narrative. They will keep doing that until they are dead, as if someone cared about their creepy legacy. They are not even footnotes to history. They came to earth, produced a lot of methane, and soon they'll be gone, having accomplished nothing worth remembering.

I'm not going to consider Assange in this context. I need to protect myself from trauma. It's a full time job, pretty much.

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pick up and amplify the lies even further, presenting them as gospel which only “Putin’s puppets,” “Nazis,” or “conspiracy theorists” would question.

https://caucus99percent.com/comment/415431#comment-415431

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But what more can vassal states expect for dinner?

We live in nations that consume this slop with a smile. I'm looking for a way out.

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