Open Thread - Friday, April 5, 2019

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The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and hands, and then work outward from there.
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

It's here! Eurobike, one of my favorite weekends of the year. I am looking forward to the gathering of the tribe.

The weather forecast is superb. Ton up!

Forget the troubles of the world, time to have some fun.

Beer and rockabilly anyone?

Now the covers.

Rock on!

Have a great weekend! The thread is OPEN.

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I've been late getting to this thread on and off for a while, but I've kept my eye on it, anyway, just to make sure no one pulls a fast one. (-; I especially enjoyed reading your account of your bar room brawl, NCTim.

"The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and hands, and then work outward from there" is another way of saying, "Forget about the speck in someone else's eye until after you've pulled the log out of your own eye." That's my paraphrase of a bit from the sermon on the mount. And, since all humans are flawed, your own eye is never going to be clean; and therefore you never will get around to that speck in someone else's eye. Truths, whether or not "self-evident," are universal.

One of the themes that carries from the Old Testament to the New Testament is "Don't judge others," rendering judge-y Christians both ironic and disobedient to their God. Then again, that's a very judge-y comment. Guess I'd best shut up and and get to work on my own heart and eye.

Have a great non judge-y Friday my friends and Eurobike, NCTim.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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Like Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values the Bible is is literally a book that says what it says; and they both say a similar thing about working on yourself first.

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Sounds like a fun weekend! Happy to hear the weather will be in your favor. It's going to be a beautiful weekend here, as well. Can't wait to spend time outside enjoying the warmth after driving to work through a winter wonderland on Monday! New Mexico - just wait a minute and the weather will change dramatically!

Have a beautiful day and weekend, everyone! Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@Raggedy Ann I am looking forward to the parking lot beer drinking, smacking talking and general rowdiness.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

A joke by a biker babe in Phoenix while getting my Trumpet tuned at a Harley shop. On the road.

Have fun!

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@QMS seek out Scott, the organizer of Eurobike, to talk some Brit bike smack. He rides a Speed Triple. I am trying to make up my mind whether to ride the 1982 R65 or the Ducati Scrambler. I am thinking Scrambler, because the Termignoni pipe is some Duck chest pounding.

Although, the R65 has a Siebenrock 860 kit, making it a quick little torque monster.

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@NCTim
against the wishes of his stodgy, old safety-minded parents. I'm sure you know how that goes.
He's buying one of these, Zero S. No gasoline, no transmission, just a twist-grip, does 0-60 in less that 3.5 secs.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

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@Azazello Pedestrians walk out.

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Not only pedestrians, but animals.

I used to love to cruise in the country on my old '67 R60, but you had to be careful as it was so quiet that often you surprised the denizens of said countryside who sometimes would dart right in front of the speeding black machine. Some of these critters were large enough that you'd make the evening paper if you center-punched one.

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A rain came through during the night here - got almost 2 inches. We needed it after only a quarter inch in three weeks, but it sure has been nice to see the sun and get the last of the winter chores done in the woods before ticks, snakes, and poison ivy make the scene.

Dogwoods are blooming and some redbuds still hanging on. It has been a pretty spring.

Hope the weekend is all you expect and more!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout The woods floor is green, until the canopy fills in. Oak pollen has started.

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album, on the grounds that it didn't sound like Neil Young -- i.e., Geffen Records weren't getting what they paid for. Young has explained that the record company guys were nagging him to make a record that sounded like the "old stuff". So he did.

While I'd like to be 100% behind the artist who was trying to defend his integrity, it's the audience that gets caught in the middle of this kind of pissing match. We were at one of the shows for the shocking pinks tour, and my sister and her boyfriend walked out. As she put it, "I didn't come here for a sock hop".

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd Fantasy versus Fogerty

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@UntimelyRippd  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_Party_%28Rick_Nelson_song%29

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Young has always been moving, musically. Mostly, his audience has tolerated and/or forgiven his worst self-indulgences, even when he has done some rather bizarre and rude things, including the legendary UK tour when he decided to play an album nobody had ever heard, because the record company was loathe to release it. Nils Lofgren reports (you decide!):

We were playing an album that he wanted to turn people on to that hadn’t been released. He was an icon already in England, everyone expected to hear his hits and he played none of them. He played the record from beginning to end starting with ‘Tonight’s The Night’, finishing with ‘Tonight’s The Night’. And the English audiences really were not… okay with it. They started yelling a lot, they started booing, they started complaining, whining, every show. He’d get to the end of the night and he’d say, ‘Alright, we’re going to play something you’ve all heard before’. And everyone would go crazy thinking it would be some Buffalo Springfield hit or whatever, and then we’d play ‘Tonight’s The Night’ again.

Note that the entire album is understood to be relentlessly depressing, and that when played in concert, the title song, Tonight's the Night, is normally a 7 to 10 minute extended jam of unremitting heartbreak. Yeah, sure, nowadays when he plays the first few notes the crowds go berserk, and the most famous picture ever taken of Lynyrd Skynyrd's Ronnie Van Zandt has him wearing a Tonight's the Night concert T, but at the time it looked more like Young was there to hurt his audience, rather than share something with them.

In any case, Everybody's Rocking wasn't about him moving on to a new musical phase, it was about him flipping the bird at David Geffen, who had rejected the album Young wanted to release -- a country and western thing called Old Ways. If he's ever played any of those songs, anywhere, ever, since the end of the album tour, it's news to me and to youtube -- not even "wonderin", which was originally written in 1970 as something a lot more folky; it didn't make it on to the album he was making at that time, but he used to perform it at concerts in the early 70s.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd  
That’s a horse of anothr color.

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includes me. he is my number 1 music guy.

but everybody's rockin' was just not cool. (it was also only 25 minutes long -- closer to an EP than an album.)

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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that it's now OFFICIAL that pot makes you schizo. (course it's an OLD study, and actually doesn't say that, but hey, nobody reads links, right?) Saw this one passed around as evidence a few times the last few days.

And all three voices in my head agree that simply isn't the case.

In other news, tried playing Skyrim again for a little bit. Gotta love that game because it's such an ultimate Gamer fantasy to be able to get rid of problems by shouting bad words at things. I mean, have you seen a thirteen year old play Call of Duty?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFO0Xo9TZ54]

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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unstructured wander that will, however, at some point include fish tacos from today's catch of the day from our choice of boats. With luck it will be black gill from at least one vessel.

This is a sttange mingling of habitats and habitations. The state park campground is in a transition zone grove of trees full of a wild mixed bag of birds, across the road from a huge wetlands and small estuary containing a small marina for recreational boats. We get great horned owls, red tailed and red shoudered hawks, robins, quail, crows, and all that, but also gulls, egrets, herons, osprey and the like, with ducks, loons, and otter in the water across the road, as well as shorebirds along the shore.

Meanwhile, a mile of so up the road is a small tourist town with a working harbor and all that such implies. Great seafood, kitch, art, bars and a wine bar, souvenirs, bakeries, candy stores, and a shop with live plants, a wild assortment of planters and assorted "found art" to "artsy" knick-knacks. Plus, the harbor and the other estuary, out by the rock teems with yet more otters.

Everybody have a great one, and happy bikeday, Tim.

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