Emmanuel Macron and the Estates General
French President Emmanuel Macron will not be going to Davos to meet the billionaires that control the world. Instead Macron asked some of them to meet him in France.
French President Emmanuel Macron hosted the world’s Davos-bound business elite at the Palace of Versailles on Monday in an effort to mend France’s image, badly bruised by the yellow-vest protests.Some 150 executives, including Uber Chief Executive Dara Khosrowshahi, JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive James Dimon, and Coca-Cola Co. chief executive James Quincey, met with Mr. Macron at the sprawling palace just outside Paris.
“A lot of people thought it was not a good date to gather here,” Mr. Macron told his guests, in reference to the French King Louis XVI, who was executed by means of the guillotine on Jan. 21, exactly 226 years ago on Monday. “But when you look at French history, if at the end they finished like that, it’s because a lot of leaders decided not to reform,” he added.
There are two key takeaways from this quick quote.
1) Did you notice how many American companies (plus Mars, Procter & Gamble, Cisco) are mentioned?
2) The HUBRIS!
The French working class have been protesting the "president of the rich" for months, and he just essentially told them to Eat Cake.
It's from this gilded room, with the gold desk, that he decided was the best place to address people protesting inequality?
... There had been outrage among gilets jaunes when an MP from Macron’s party, La République En Marche, was recently unable to state the minimum wage on TV or when a cabinet minister trying to show the gulf between the working poor and the political elite appeared to complain that Paris dinners cost “€200 without wine”.
The real kicker is Macron's solution to the protests - a national debate.
First of all, there is no debate because Macron is completely tone deaf to anyone outside of the wealthy elite. Macron is following a very well-traveled path.
“Too many of our citizens think they can get what they want without hard work,” Macron imperially lectured the nation last week...
Indeed, Macron’s boxcar load of belligerent responses to the disenfranchised is nothing new in France. Back in the 15th century, gangs of coquillards, the economic and social casualties of the Hundred Years War, terrified the crown. The government commonly described them as “dispossessed, deserters, destitute or those who simply refuse to work.” And, when they eventually did find work, Finance Minister Jean-Baptiste Colbert advised his sovereign King Louis XIV that “the art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest amount of feathers with the least possible amount of hissing.”
King Louis XIV may give us important lessons, but the man of the hour is King Louis XVI. Not just because of Macron's intentional reference, but because of his unintentional reference.
You see, a French leader calling for a national debate is not something new.
Macron’s decision to call upon his citizens to prepare for a national conversation recalls Louis XVI’s decision to call upon his subjects to, well, prepare for a national conversation. In the king’s case, this led to the cahiers de doléances, or lists of grievances, which locally chosen representatives wrote up and sent to Versailles before the convening of the Estates General in 1789. Given the world-altering events that followed later that year, the seismic rumble of the cahiers de doléances is often overlooked. Yet it was an unprecedented exercise, not just in 18th century France but throughout Europe, in uncensored and unbound popular expression.
Macron has learned nothing from Louis XVI.
Louis XVI badly underestimated how unhappy the commoners were because they were completely out of touch.
Louis XVI thought that he could pacify the unrest with minor concessions.
Macron is guilty of all the same mistakes.
When all of these people get together to discuss their problems in the more than 5,000 city halls, they are likely to discover that they have much in common. Who knows what they might decide to reform. And what will they do when Macron inevitably decides not to reform?

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From what I understand...
...guillotines are reusable and carbon neutral. An environmentally friendly choice to address income inequality.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
"Just a little off the top, please."
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
lol
"The Democratic Party has been focused too much on pleasing people who matter too little in this society." -- Chris Cuomo
Invasions are so 20th Century
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Will Work To Clean Skulls
https://buybeetles.com/
lol thanks, entrepreneurs always think ahead:LMAO, already there are subsidiaries for the new economy. vive la france
My bold, and I may have missed it but there is no second of all.
No kidding, a bonus for the zombie apocalypse too. good deal
How about we just throw them to the hounds instead?
Lol.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Heck, just drone ‘em.
Like we do the ‘rabble’.
What with all the investment in the technology, we might as well use it. On someone beside the peasants for a change.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Macron might want to get out more...
From what I've read, aside from spots in the Ile-de-France, Louis XVI's only journey within France, before 1789, was to Cherbourg in Normandy, to visit the naval base.
Macron's use of Versailles as a background is bizarre. He might not be so sanguine when a second Tennis Court Oath is sworn.
On a personal level, Louis XVI is recorded to have been quite affable. Macron has the personality of sandpaper.
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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
My he for once in his life
understand hard labor. Death by head removal is too easy.
To the dungeons I say.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
No need to hide anything anymore.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Trump vs. Macron
not on taxes
The Rothschild Retreat?
This should be called the Rothschild Retreat, just have to prove you have a bil to get in. If ignorance is bliss, what is the oblivion of the rich? Nirvana?
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Samsara
They're still firmly stuck in the depths of the material world. Maybe even more so than the rest of us. Hungry ghosts, they are. Nothing is ever enough for them. They're terrified of losing what they think they possess.
The value of a "billion dollars" is an illusion. They have a stranglehold on the illusion, and they will do anything to maintain it.
Perhaps they should consult Dr. Faustus about how that turns out.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
this'll blow your minds:
[video:https://youtu.be/luubWjn2rA4]
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
A meeting of the Elite at Versailles?
I actually laughed out loud when I read that. What could go wrong?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Ha!
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Right?
How tone deaf can an Investment Banker-cum-President be? Oops, I guess I already answered my own question.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Perfect optics, but not as Macron seems to have meant it.
Hubris.
That said the rage Louis XVI engendered took on a life of its own, swallowing him as well as some of those who rose up against him. It could be deja vu all over again unless TPTB can be restrained without the more violent consequences of the justifiably angry populace.
Robespierre began as a moderate, but was radicalized and became a victim of the movement he once headed. I was dismayed when Macron seemed to be the people’s answer to Le Pen. He appeared to be another neoliberal, and we can see that he is.
I was pulling for Melanchon, but he had about as much chance as Sanders in the US or Corbin in the UK to lead. Yet they address the issues of the 99%. As waves of unrest arise, like the Arab Spring and Occupy and now the Yellow Vests, TPTB put them down and then portray them through the press as aimless and pointless.
We need to keep the flames of these movements alive in the imaginations of the people.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Vive la révolution
I've always been fascinated with the frequency the people of France, throughout their history, have taken to the streets in protest of their corrupt government. I can't think of a more appropriate place where the collective anger of working class people globally could manifest itself than in France.
Or as one of my History Professors liked to say about those French Revolutionaries "and once again it's off to the barricades!"
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
... followed shortly by
... "a few close shaves with the National Razor -"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine --
During the span of its usage, the French guillotine has gone by many names, some of which include these:
Le Rasoir National (The National Razor)
Le Vasistas or La Lucarne (The Fanlight)
La Veuve (The Widow)
Le Moulin à Silence (The Silence Mill)
Madame La Guillotine
La Bécane (The Machine)
Le Massicot (The Cutter)
La Cravate à Capet (Capet's Necktie, Capet being Louis XVI)
La Raccourcisseuse Patriotique (The Patriotic Shortener)
La demi-lune (The Half-Moon)
La Bascule à Charlot (Charlot's Rocking-Chair)
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
Does anyone know
How the police and military will react to orders if the demonstrations become more widespread? Are the law enforcement and military RW like here?
In the Russian Revolution ...
They refused to fire at the workers at the Winter Palace.
During the fall of East Germany, they refused to fire at those tearing down the wall.
The military refusing orders to fire on the people is the first stage of the dissolution of that state.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
The military was the reason that the final Russian revolution
succeeded. They had been treated pooorly during world War I. So, when they returned, they joined the peasants, as they had not done previously. The left has issues with police brutality, which is the reason that many rank and file members of the "thin blue line" are Republican. The myths about the left spitting on members of the military returning from Vietnam, perpetuated by Obama as he granted posthumous medals to individuals who fought in Vietnam, and the general stance of the left on military spending don't help the left with the military, either. As an opponent of both police brutality and war, I don't know what to do about either of those things.
No myth
It happened to my brother-in-law. I believe him. I think that's why he is a Republican now. The son of a Chicago Public School janitor, never had much money, non-racist. What do the (R)'s offer him? But he remembers that the Left spit on him after he survived a terrible ordeal. Good work, Hippies.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
It'll vary from country to country.
Even neighborhood to neighborhood.
In France, the military tends to be pretty RW. Civilian law enforcement is a mixed bag. The reporting from the scene also gets confusing. We've seen riot police pepper-spraying the protesters with considerable gusto and some protester casualties from the launched tear-gas grenades, but we've also seen some squads of police and firemen stand down and let the protests go on. It's still early, and warmer weather will likely bring higher numbers into the streets. We'll have to wait to see what happens then.
Macron doesn't look to me to be addressing the protesters at all. He's worried about his standing among the elites, and only worried about that. Hence, the shifting promises and retractions to the gilets jaunes, and the lavish welcome to the masters of the universe.
Even if the protests peter out
Another political or economic crisis will bring them back into the streets.
Macron and the elites think that they can just wait them out.
Thanks
"He's worried about his standing among the elites ..."
If you are familiar with Hillary's remark about having a public position and private position, it makes me wonder if macron is privately assuring his billionaire friends that he will have to publicly make some pretend concessions but that he won't follow through with them.
We need something like that here. When the 99% stop the
ID Pol debates/divisions and combine their power, the TPTB are in real trouble.
Obama managed to stomp out OWS, but when the Trump supporters realize they've been conned, we should be ready for another go-round that unites us.
It's not about left v. right. It is up v. down--and we have the numbers.
Hedges (and Big Al?)thinks we'll settle this in the street and he may be right. They have the guns up to the point that the police refuse to shoot women and children in the street.
Meanwhile, I will continue to hope Tulsi and her friends can lead us to a more peaceful resolution. I was in Chicago and have no desire to repeat the experience.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
I don't think that the centrists want ID politics to be gone
I saw a few comments on ToP about how Kampala is going to be the best candidate because she pulls ID politics together with her economic agenda. Wish I'd flagged this comment so I could repeat it verbatim because it was such a jaw dropper. Wtf I said? Bizarro world there.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
I always feel like I needed Hazmatted
After I go over there.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
"Macron has learned nothing from Louis XVI."
Macron, like Blair and other European altneoliberalcons learned from the Clintons and Al From. And, yeah, I am about to post the quote from Al From's wikipedia article that I post whenever I have an excuse to post it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_From
However, there is one thing that I believe heads of state may have learned from both King Louis and Tsar Nicholas: Be very sure your
palace guardmilitary is unshakeablypro-governmentpatriotic.Sometimes the Palace Guard isn't enough
1792 the Second Revolution
The military alone being enough was not my contention.
But, most of the palace guard had abandoned Louis.
“altneoliberalcons”! How apropos! Good one.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa