Democrats attempting to club progressives into submission again
The Democratic Party insiders are ready to knife any progressive that dares to speak up. David Brock's article is a perfect example.
I'm hardly the only political observer who blames Hillary Clinton's general election defeat to Donald Trump in part on personal attacks on Clinton first made by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and his backers. Those attacks from her left laid the groundwork for copycat attacks lobbed by Donald Trump — and, in the process, helped hand the Supreme Court to the right-wing for a generation.
That's the very first paragraph in the article. It only gets worse after that.
Let’s be clear about what’s going on here: this is a deliberate Dem Party effort to try to intimidate journalists & advocacy groups into not reporting on voting records & campaign donations. Wanna know why I rejected working for this guy? That’s why. https://t.co/vFl0fps6sB
— David Sirota (@davidsirota) January 3, 2019
The establishment's objective is to enforce conformity in the same manner that Democratic Party leaders tried to coerce supporters of Sanders into lining up behind Hillary Clinton in 2016.
The entire effort only succeeded into depressing turnout to the point that they lost to the most unpopular presidential candidate in history.
David Brock is hardly alone in this highly coordinated Democratic Party attack on the left. He's just the most shameless.
If you want a quality illustration of what a manipulative sociopath David Brock is, contrast his obnoxious, dishonest accusatory screed with his open letter to Sanders at the beginning of 2017 titled “Dear Senator Sanders: I’m with You in the Fight Ahead”. Brock apologized for his harsh attacks on Sanders, gushed about the way Bernie “electrified millions” with his campaign and pledged to work with him to harness that energy against Trump. Brock wanted something from Sanders (control of his base in this case), so he smothered him in flattery; now people are criticizing Beto “Like Obama, only white” O’Rourke, and all of a sudden Sanders is back to being a red commie menace whose “character attacks” are to blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss. Brock has no relationship with truth beyond his ability to twist it to get things he wants.
Sometimes the Dem insiders are even less subtle than Brock.
Claire McCaskill has two words for her progressive critics: “Shut up.”
“Really? This is hard,” McCaskill said of running as a Democrat in a red state. “I have been standing in the breach for women’s rights as it relates to reproductive freedom for all of my adult life, and the fact that these [critics] didn’t realize that and just be quiet, roll up their sleeves, and work their ass off for me was beyond irritating.”
The level of condescension and privilege really is stunning.
Of course what McCaskill is saying is the same thing that Brock is saying.
Even moderate opponents of Pelosi have been given a warning. It's not subtle.
Progressives are more active than anytime in memory, and that really annoys the Democratic Party leadership.
Unfortunately, Pelosi, Schumer and Hoyer are doing everything in their power to keep the progressive insurgency in check, and keep their neoliberal/corporate money machine in power. Beyond the many moral and ethical problems with this, it’s just plain stupid politics. About the only way Democrats could lose their 2018 momentum in 2020 is to return to the same old neoliberal, corporate-friendly policies that lost them the election in 2016.They’re being supported by most of the mainstream media, many of the pundits who’ve been the architects of the Democratic Party’s precipitous decline over the last few decades, and a robust and well-funded neoliberal infrastructure composed of not-for-profits, many unions, foundations, and public interest groups, who’ve gone into overdrive on their anti-Bernie campaign. It was this neoliberal mafia that helped deliver the nomination to Hillary Clinton in 2016, which in turn depressed turnout to the point that Trump was able to win the election with just over 26 percent of eligible voters.
A good example of this is the coordinated attack-the-messenger campaign against award-winning investigative journalist David Sirota, when he had the nerve to point out that Beto isn't a progressive.
This campaign comes from the very same people who clutch their pearls every time Trump says something negative about the media.
The establishment's neoliberal mafia primary tool is Identity Politics, and it's tactics are almost exactly the same as Republicans.
So I asked Ken if he agreed that the president’s primary task is to improve the economic lives of as many Americans as possible, and, sure enough, he said no. Politics have flipped now. We’ve heard, forever, that the GOP cleverly uses wedge issues to get people to go against their own economic interests, but that’s exactly what the Democratic Party’s now become. Its “wedge issues” are the issues of identity politics. “Take Hillary over Bernie because she talks the talk.”
Unless progressives fight back, we are headed towards a future of two neoliberal/neoconservative parties with the only differences being their style.
Comments
We were already there under Clinton.
We already have two ultra-conservative parties constantly punching left to appease rabid reactionary idiots and corporate bribe dispensers.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I've been saying this for a while.
The only difference between the two major parties are:
1. Which race they hate.
2. Which gender they hate.
3. Which major world power do they hate - Russia or China?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
There's a big surprise...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIFT6iILaY]
Apparently the Dems believe that once you declare for the Dems ONCE, you're a heretic if you don't immediately observe all the tenets of the great prophets of the Democratic Party. Bow down and donate.
Hell with it... some music to express my feelings towards the Dems...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhiSgXz_l20]
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Like voluntary slavery.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Hear hear.
Here's my feelings toward the Dems:
I said hallelujah to the sixteen loyal fans
You'll get down on your mothafuckin' knees
And it's time for your sickness again
Come on and tell me what you need
Tell me what is making you bleed
We got two more minutes and
We gonna cut to what you need
So one of six so tell me
One do you want to live
And one of seven tell me
Is it time for your mothafuckin' ass to give
Tell me is it time to get down on your mothafuckin' knees
Tell me is it time to get down
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
They need not worry about how I vote.
I demexited for a reason and no amount of shiny new talk will convince me to vote for either party.
As for bernie.....If he doesn't run third party it's hell no.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
First, if anything, Bernie was too kind to Hillary during the
primary.
Second, I wonder how Brock contemplates silencing all of Bernie's supporters? Is he preparing some sort of gulag?
Third, I just don't believe that Brock changed from a Republican Clinton hater to a Hillary acolyte simply by doing a book about her that started out as a hit piece. I think the man is owned, literally and figuratively by the Clintons.
Way too kind.
Bernie pulled punches all over the place, something HER didn’t do in kind. Anyone who seriously believes Sanders rather bland and weak criticism of HER somehow empowered Trump, who has never needed help finding fault in anyone else, needs their head checked.
With Brock I’ve never figured out if it’s that the Clintons own him or if his old masters burned him so bad this is the only way he can get back at them. Who knows? I don’t think the emails revealed anything, did they?
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Is this snark?
If not then the answer is yes. Lots of stuff.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
I think he meant: did they reveal anything
about Brock.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Yes, there will be gulags
though they might be done by "social credit scores"
On to Biden since 1973
Interesting timing from Brock too
Is this the opening gambit of Hillary 2020, aka “I’m still with her”? I know many here say “not a chance” but it’s still her turn after all...
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Allegedly, she's meeting individually with several . . .
. . . potential candidates who want her endorsement. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren have already met with her, and Booker and Hickenloper and others are jockeying for places on her calendar.
Personally, I suspect (with no evidence but decades of watching her shenanigans) that she'll sit back, let everyone chew each other up, and emerge mid-season to "save the day" for Democrats. Or maybe she'll go full Humphrey and be installed at the Convention.
After all, Dems are happy doing what they've done before. It worked just as well in '68 as it did when they lost 1000 seats in the past decade.
I'm not going to vote for anyone
endorsed by HER. I can tell you that right now.
This shit is bananas.
But, of course, the left caused them to lose to Nixon,
not several assassinations, rightist Democrats for Nixon, voting machines or running a candidate closely associated with the Vietnam "Era" or did not renounce it because LBJ would not give him permission to renounce it. Not their stubbornness in ignoring the left and worse, just the left. It's always just the friggin' left that makes the party that is supposed to represent the left lose elections. (Talk about cognitive dissonance!)
I thought they wanted us all to fall in line behind Biden.
Whatever. I'll have nothing to do with this charade.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
It's Her Turn in 2020? Anything is Possible
A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
I'm still with Her
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
One of Brock’s crew “Corecting the Record”
heh
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Spot on, mate
I never heard how much the Clinton Correct the Record trolls were paid for each post they made? And how did Brock keep track of each post? Now can you imagine needing a job badly enough that you had to say nice things about Herheinous? Guess it'd be a dream job if you loved her.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
The Bernie hating Dembots relished the job.
The same posters who pretended to be supporters of Sanders when he announced -- so they could later say, "I supported Bernie until (insert here imaginary bad deed)" were very recognizable under different screen names when they posted to "correct the record." A lot of them debuted under their new name with a post replying to something about Hillary with a post demanding that we refer to her as "Secretary Clinton." I still have PTSD from those days. FRom my other things, too, but that's another story entirely.
Iirc most of the troll farms were foreign
Indian specifically. I doubt they knew much more than what was on the script.
In light of all the “foreigners stole our election” nonsense I find it telling that no one talks about how the use of foreign trolls for HER.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Well, why waste money
hiring American trolls, when foreigners will do it cheaper. Dang...if she runs again, I hope somebody asks why she didn't hire American trolls. The new nannygate.
Some may say "no chance," but I've seen posts, mostly from
Bernie supporters and Demexiters, that say, "Her is definitely going to run again."
Sure, she said after Trump trounced her, that she was finished, but when was her word as good as gold?
When she is giving a speech
to the bankers?
My guess is she wants a Dick Cheney role
become VP and run the world from there.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Is there anyone brave enough
to choose her for VP?
Yikes.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Most likely one of the neolib sychophant
Booker, Kamala, Gillibrand type?
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
If HER were VP
I'd hire a food taster if I was Prez.
Now I'm seeing the poor Pres looking like Raputin...
Actually, "Lookin Like Rasputin" sounds like an awesome name for a song. on the issue.
Ah hell with it, Stalin and Rasputin Jokes, because Dammit, it's Saturday, and let's have fun.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o]
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Or a band! I love it!
"Lookin Like Rasputin". Better than "The Russian Trolls".
Here you go....
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
What! 2012!
Oh man, to think of all the hours I wasted at TOP.
Wait! 1979!
What was I doing in 1979? (I take the 5th)
Oh man, I totally love the metal version of that song.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=JLo02AquUCs]
To be fair in 1979, I was 3.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Surprised?
since the media has decided the 2020 election season has started, I’d expect more and more of this everyday. It’ll be interesting to see if they can keep up the anti-progressive vitriol/punching left and manage to all rally around one corporate-dem or if they’ll let the primaries turn into the Dem’s version of the “deep bench” clown car we saw from the Republicans. Of course that’ll be the progressives fault somehow too. Heh.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Looks like the disease over at TOP
Just metastasized onto the national stage. Get out the popcorn. The Corporate Dems are going to lose to Trump again.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Personally I believe that
is their goal.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
2016 Redux
I'm hoping that they actually believe in their own stupidity and they really think this is a winning strategy to beat Trump. Having said that, I'm curious why you think they'd prefer Trump to win?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Why Dems want Trump to win.
The spigots on the Democrat's money fountain opened full force when Trump was elected. They raised twice as much money as Republicans did in 2018. Resistance has been very, very good for Dem pocketbooks.
Dems rake in the $
being against, not so much being for. They seem to prefer being yapping dogs.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Attack Chihuahuas
all yap and no teeth.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Scratch a limousine liberal and you will find
an alt neoconliberal with thhe same interest in huge defense budgets, tax decreases for the wealthy, etc.
We keep saying that there's not enough difference between them because there really isn't.
However, with Republicans in control, they can pretend to be leftists, blaming absence of leftist measures on Republican Presidents and/or Republican Congressional majorities. It enables them to stay concealed behind the wizard of oz's curtain as they pretend to be the party of the people.
Because Trump is the only thing
that gives them any credibility.
Think about it. If Trump disappeared tomorrow, what would they run on? What would they even say?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
David Brock - King of Trolls
David Brock, master astro-turfer, King of Trolls, more than a little bit nutty, should not point and wag his hypocritical finger. Some of us were Dems long before him, watched the Clintons destroy the party by moving it right, and then watched him join. Now he is self-appointed arbiter of what is Democratic? Whilst he astro-turfs? If he was on fire I would not piss on him to put him out.
What he did, his plan did at least as much damage of the most negative sort to the party. Whereas Bernie positively affected it by energizing people to be involved. David discouraged them. And paid people to. What a POS he is. The article is more projection than anything, virtually all of it blaming Bernie for the results of what he and his crowd did. The Dems have used Russia to not discuss what really happened, and so now the same Neeras and Brockroaches are back to do the same thing again because they are too stupid to learn from their mistakes. This was the plan, they are still at the top of the consultant class food chain, er, money funnel. David Brock is a whore just like the people he supports in politics. Joe Biden is less creepy than David Brock.
This is just his first shot across the bow, lest any of you that think for yourselves get any ideas. Hey maybe he is real good with cows or sheep?
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
David Brock - Troll Extraordinaire
A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
Well, someone had to create a LEFT Party in the US
Carry on, Democrats. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting.
It sure is a good way to do it, eh?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
The more they spew, the more determined I am to help them FO.
And the articles you linked to aren't all of it. The NYT has written two kill Bernie articles. Mother Jones went after him, and the Washington Post as well. Yeah bombing the ME doesn't create terrorists and attacking progressives doesn't create #DemExits. I knew they would take their blue wave as an endorsement of their dumb asses and not a rejection of Trump.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
It wasn't much of a blue wave.
Am I the only one who wasn't impressed by adding 26 seats? Especially since they're going to lose them all the next time they win--unless of course the DHS creates election results wholesale.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Why not veto Beto...
he's essentially a republican after all.
And...
Entitlement much Ms. McCaskill?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Ya, progressives should fight back and save the party!
Is that the rallying cry? Progressives need to save the democratic party from being a neoliberal imperialist part of the corrupt duopoly? Of which it already is and has been for 150 years.
How about make it democratic party progressives because there are plenty of progressives who will not vote for the totally corrupted neoliberal imperialist democratic party. Just saying
Personally, I think it's time to try a third party, any progressives worth their progressiveness should abandon the democratic party once and for all and help build up a third party that actually might be able to represent the left. Actually an independent movement outside the election circus would be better.
Worrying about whether some democratic party progressives are unhappy with their corrupt political party should be at the bottom of the list.
Damn it BA
Why didn't I put it so coherently?
Thanks for making my day.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Those new years resolutions.
One of mine is to "tell it like it is". The next election is something like 670 days away. This would be the time to do something different than complain about the democratic party.
But as we can see, the oligarchy, it's spokespersons and media, are out in full force trying to prevent that by filtering everything through the duopoly system and the next election. With Trump involved, unless he gets impeached or resigns, I suspect it will get worse than ever.
OMG!
Only 670?
My how time flies when you don't give a fuck.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Third parties can't get off the ground
The legislative barriers are too high. It's a waste of time.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Then waste your time on the democratic party.
We all should be free to waste our time how we wish. For me, at this point in my life, anything is worth a try. I do however strongly advocate for a working class independent movement to challenge this political system. I think both approaches are worth getting behind simultaneously.
Exactly so.
What I am seeing early on is a populist movement already starting. People seem much wiser about the Democrats and the Media trying to poison the People's message. Even those who have succumbed to the Russian Hoax are able to spot the sabotage and are calling it out.
Case in point: Just this hour, Google News added a CNN video clip from today (on YouTube). The clip portrays CNN painting Bernie Sanders as a sexual predator apologist.
Head over to YouTube and look at the comments below the clip. These people saw even more that I did and were way more cynical.
I expect that attitude to grow with the attacks on the Left. It could be the beginning of a natural born political movement.
"Forced to respond"
Bernie was forced to respond to the allegations? Did someone tie Bernie down and work for hours to get him to respond to the allegations? No I don't think this is what happened. Anderson asked Bernie about this and this is what he said. "I personally apologize to any woman that she was not treated appropriately and of course if I run we will do better" And to be clear you didn't know about it at the time is that right? "Yes I was busy trying to win an election at the time." Just what else does he need to say?
targeted disrespect. Good grief. How many offices did Bernie have during the primary? And he's supposed to know what happens in each one? How much of the video was edited off? Did Bernie say anything else instead of what was shown?
Bernie Bro culture? What was that? I'm sorry, but I see this as bullshit because it's coming out two years after it happened. "He should offer much more of an apology!!!" BTW interviewing lady. Has anyone contacted the republican campaign offices to see if there was sexual harassment and pay disparities in their offices? BTWII. Hey remember when Hillary knew about one person in her office sexual harassment history and she appointed him anyway? Have you contacted anyone else who worked for Hillary and asked them if they had experienced the same things? If not then go away. This just proves that you have a bone to pick with Bernie.
Sorry that's as much of this I'm willing to listen to. Pay discrepancies were fixed when people found out about them so why is this an issue now?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
What a fucking way to make a living
Zero integrity. Zero conscious. If that's what it takes to funnel money into their bank account, they can have it.
CNN Journalists. Blech!
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Apologizing for things you shouldn't
is a pretty clear way to fail.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I didn't think of it that way
But you are right, strategically and psychologically speaking. Successful alphas are very discerning about that sort of thing, which is part of what makes them effective.
"Bernie Sander's fans can't be allowed to poison
another Democratic Primary with personal attacks", but HER fans can...no, must be allowed to poison the primary with personal attacks. In fact, local ex-friends have been doing that for months, and it took a leap in volume this morning. What a coincidence.
And, of course you are right, Big Al;
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Yes, but a real party, not a boutique party just for POTUS
There must be state and local candidates and an effort to get someone on the ballot in every Congressional district. Even if there is no paid advertising. Internet, word of mouth, and just seeing another choice on the ballot )or ANY choice on the ballot! EVERY cook County Illinois race was Soviet-style one party ballot).
I voted for Jill Stein, but the only other Greens were running for the Metropolitan water reclamation District (voted for them too). Not one legislative race, state or federal.
I can't take anyone seriously that wants to start at the top, instead of working their way up.
"Green" is a bad name too. Most people associated with toilets that clog all the time and driving kiddie cars or turning the thermostat down to freeze or broil.
I'd rather see "socialist" or "peoples" people will associate those with Communism, so change them a bit. "Working Man's Party" instead "Workers Party". How about Ninety Nine Percent Party? Average Man Party? Personally, I like "American Party", although I concede it has Jingoist/anti-immigration overtones. "Newer Deal", "Roosevelt Party"? "Democratic Party" would be best but it's been co-opted and distorted out of recognition into the opposite.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I’m not a Bernie “fan”. I’m a Bernie supporter. The word
“fan” trivializes those who agree with Sanders’ focus on issues rather than identity politics and ginned up scandal.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Guilty
.
I guess I'm one of the people on the left who 'attacked' Her, but then I got the information to do so from watching what she had been doing for years, including her being okay with every military intervention she knew about. This goes back to when Bill was president and she talked him into the ones during his tenure. There was no reason for her to vote for the Iraq war if she didn't want to be tarnished by her vote and I'm thinking that if she hadn't a few other who were on the fence might not have. But then she doubled down and encouraged Obama to destabilize Libya. Even when she wasn't in government she was strongly advocating for a no fly zone over Syria. She's torched that Trump said he was going to bring troops out of Syria. These are just a few things that tell me that she is a psychotic warmonger and if she ever becomes president then we'll never stop our marching towards global hegemony.
I'm betting she is going to run. She still thinks it's her turn. So do her supporters, but I'm worried that the PTB will let her have the win this time.
Who held a gun to her head and made her decide that boneheaded decision to give paid speeches to the banks? After she had spent her tenure as SOS getting money to influence decisions her state department made she was arrogant enough to do it again before she 'became' president.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
The only hope we have
is that people are starting to see that not only is money the root, it is also the force that drives those such as her.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil"
Love of power, too. The psychotic need to have victims plead with you to not hurt them any more.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
The Supreme Court
was already handed to the right wing, to the point that John Paul Stevens ended up being viewed as a liberal, up to the point that Ann Coulter suggested he should be served arsenic in his tea.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Here's the thing: the DHS now runs our elections
So Hillary could actually "win."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Aaaaand a little appropriate music for that thought...
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It feels like the tag line for AVP...
No matter who wins... we lose.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Rigging the elections is not important
...anymore, unless the people rise up and vote in a non-party independent who represents them as President. This is probably their last chance.
The Deep State and CFR occupy both candidates. You have minor domestic differences, but all the money will bleed out to the globalist agenda. The income/wealth gap widens, the people are fully surveilled and policed as they continue their slide down the slope, so the point is moot.
Cuz that worked out so well for them
Guess they're down with four more years of Trump.
Naw, don't you read the other blogs?
They are going to impeach him and install Hillary.
The less crazy think they can deal with Pence.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
They CAN deal with Pence
since they want many of the same things (keep the cash flowing). Once he's POTUS things would be vewy vewy qwiet in the White House and they'd all do the oligarchs' bidding without the turmoil/uproar getting in the way.
Pence as Obama with a pulpit.
Trump and his damn wall.
Pence and his obsession with uteri.
EDIT:
Strange that a man who couldn't get re-elected as governor of Indiana will have his finger on the nuclear button. I hope he isn't one of those crazies who want to start Armageddon so Jesus returns.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I think he is just that
if you mean a Dominionist.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Those are the nutjobs!
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Once again, The Onion prevails as newspaper-of-note
https://politics.theonion.com/hillary-launches-campaign-to-raise-100-mil...
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Huh. So the people Trump hired to make attacks on Hillary
would have had nothing to say if it weren't for them cribbing from the Sanders campaign.
Huh.
By the way, why does anybody listen to David Brock?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
"It's irritating that you won't shut up and work your ass off
for me."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver