@snoopydawg seems to be very nebulous as to what it prohibits. I am having a difficult time in understanding how the representative of a newly elected President could be charged under the Logan Act if he was acting on behalf of the incoming administration. If this is the case, any contact between a new administration and a foreign government prior to the swearing in of the President would be a violation. This certainly would not further the smooth transition of one administration to another.

However, John Kerry meeting with the Iranian government after Trump took office in a effort to thwart what Trump was doing with the Iran deal could possibly be in violation of the Logan Act.

As far as I know, Flynn was never charged under the Logan Act. Instead he was charged with lying to an FBI agent (I believe Peter Strzok) in an informal setting.

My memory and/or understanding of the Logan Act may be faulty, so if I am wrong, someone please correct me.

#3

and that he lied about not doing. This info is in the article I'm using so I'm not sure what you're saying here? Apparently if Flynn with Trump's knowledge did contact Russia before he took office then he could be charged with the Logan act. (This is an interesting read -sd)

But as I stated above, Flynn also spoke to the Russian envoy about not sanctioning Israel for their illegal settlements. This has been reported on too in the main stream media and yet he's not being charged for that. Why not?

The thing is with the sanctions on Russia, Trump has put more of them on Russia than Obama did. I think I posted a video that shows how Trump has been harder on them than Obama. But yet people are still saying that he has refused to do that.

Here's one of the latest Q posts.

The public is about to learn that the DOJ, FBI, + other US/Foreign assets have been actively working behind the scenes in one of the largest criminal investigations in modern day history.
DECLAS > Purpose > illuminate the 'TRUTH' > People
Transparency is the only way forward [CONTROLLED MEDIA - 'Enemy of the People'].
Q

People are supposedly quaking in their boots because of what's going to be happening with the real investigation meaning that the Flynn, Manafort, Cohen and others are just a smoke screen. I'm not so sure.

@snoopydawg

Flynn also spoke to the Russian envoy about not sanctioning Israel for their illegal settlements. This has been reported on too in the main stream media and yet he's not being charged for that. Why not?

while it's a rhetorical question, i'll offer: because amerika is a client state of israel.

The thing is with the sanctions on Russia, Trump has put more of them on Russia than Obama did. I think I posted a video that shows how Trump has been harder on them than Obama. But yet people are still saying that he has refused to do that.

of course they don't want to know that, but i think the reason herr T ha sanctioned russia more lies in: #TreasonSummit w/putin, and his state det., CIA, and military advisors telling him he must. aside from that, many f the sanctions are against individuals in russia, not russia heerself, as i remember it. and remember the massive calls of treason for his wanting to make some accords with nuclear north korea? yeah, he swerved around a lot about that on twitter, but from what i read, moon and kim are still trying to make mutual accords.

i've given up trying to bring anything coherent from miz-muller wheeler, but she does quote pdf's from jerome corsi and roger stone w/ regard to assange/wikileaks as believable, randy credico is often mentioned. i'll stick this on my 'plot thickens' for posterity, but i hopped onto credico's twitter and found this (although, dagnabbit, no transcript yet, out for me for now; i just gotta get this slut-hole a li'l bit cleaner, and i have a psa i want to put up):

NEW @EmpireFiles: With never before revealed details about Roger Stone and the #MuellerProbe, @CredicoRandy details his long-standing ties to the political operative and answers the hard questions about his alleged coordination with @wikileaks https://t.co/D48xYYI4bQ

— The Real News (@TheRealNews) December 5, 2018

#3

and that he lied about not doing. This info is in the article I'm using so I'm not sure what you're saying here? Apparently if Flynn with Trump's knowledge did contact Russia before he took office then he could be charged with the Logan act. (This is an interesting read -sd)

But as I stated above, Flynn also spoke to the Russian envoy about not sanctioning Israel for their illegal settlements. This has been reported on too in the main stream media and yet he's not being charged for that. Why not?

The thing is with the sanctions on Russia, Trump has put more of them on Russia than Obama did. I think I posted a video that shows how Trump has been harder on them than Obama. But yet people are still saying that he has refused to do that.

Here's one of the latest Q posts.

The public is about to learn that the DOJ, FBI, + other US/Foreign assets have been actively working behind the scenes in one of the largest criminal investigations in modern day history.
DECLAS > Purpose > illuminate the 'TRUTH' > People
Transparency is the only way forward [CONTROLLED MEDIA - 'Enemy of the People'].
Q

People are supposedly quaking in their boots because of what's going to be happening with the real investigation meaning that the Flynn, Manafort, Cohen and others are just a smoke screen. I'm not so sure.

@snoopydawg

Look at how many are believing everything about Russia Gate. I'm both sad and disgusted that they do.

Yep, all you have to do is to make a visit over to the other place where cognitive dissonance thrives.

#7

Look at how many are believing everything about Russia Gate. I'm both sad and disgusted that they do.

@snoopydawg

That fuzzy detail on how the Steele Dossier was passed along is cleared up in this timeline excerpt:

The Steele dossier was fed into U.S. channels through several different sources. One such source was Sir Andrew Wood, the former British ambassador to Russia, who had been briefed about the dossier by Steele. Wood later relayed information regarding the dossier to Sen. John McCain, who dispatched David Kramer, a fellow at the McCain Institute, to London to meet with Steele in November 2016. McCain would later admit in a Jan. 11, 2017, statement that he had personally passed on the dossier to then-FBI Director James Comey.

Steele met with members of certain media with relative frequency. In September 2016, he met with a number of U.S. journalists for “The New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo! News, the New Yorker and CNN,” according to The Guardian. It was during this period that Steele met with Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News.

In mid-October 2016, Steele returned to New York and met with reporters again. Toward the end of October, Steele spoke via Skype with Mother Jones reporter David Corn.

Leaking, including felony leaking of classified information, has been widespread. The Carter Page FISA warrant—likely the unredacted version—has been in the possession of The Washington Post and The New York Times since March 2017. Traditionally, the intelligence community leaked to The Washington Post while the DOJ leaked to sources within The New York Times. This was a historical pattern that stood until this election. The leaking became so widespread, even this tradition was broken.

On April 3, 2017, BuzzFeed reporter Ali Watkins wrote the article “A Former Trump Adviser Met With a Russian Spy.” In the article, she identified “Male-1,” referred to in court documents relating to the case of Russian spy Evgeny Buryakov, as Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who had provided the FBI with assistance in the case. Just over a week later, on April 11, 2017, a Washington Post article, “FBI Obtained FISA Warrant to Monitor Former Trump Adviser Carter Page,” confirmed the existence of the October 2016 Page FISA warrant.

And this:

The information contained within both articles likely came via felony leaks from James Wolfe, former director of security for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, who was arrested on June 7, 2018, and charged with one count of lying to the FBI. Wolfe’s indictment alleges that he was leaking classified information to multiple reporters over an extended period of time.

It appears probable that Wolfe leaked unredacted copies of the Page FISA application.

According to the indictment, Wolfe exchanged 82 text messages with Watkins on March 17, 2017. That same evening they engaged in a 28-minute phone call.

The original Page FISA application is 83 pages long, including one final signatory page.

In the public version of the application, there are 37 fully redacted pages. In addition to that, several other pages have redactions for all but the header. There are only two pages in the entire document that contain no redactions.

Why would Wolfe bother to send 37 pages of complete redactions? It seems more than plausible that Wolfe took pictures of the original unredacted FISA application and sent them by text to Watkins.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes has repeatedly stated that evidence within the FISA application shows the counterintelligence agencies were abused by the Obama administration. Most of the mainstream media has known this.

Despite this, most major news organizations for over two years have promoted the Russia-collusion narrative. Despite ample evidence having come out to the contrary, they have not admitted they were wrong, likely because doing so would mean they would have to admit their complicity.

That timeline, posted by Linda Wood, is a treasure, no?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/spygate-the-true-story-of-collusion_268462...

#8

Well said, Pluto.

Yes McCain was instrumental at the beginning of this to get the Steele dossier into the spotlight and it could have been Comey who he gave it to. But I think that the first time Americans heard about it was when Corn wrote about it in Salon. (?) I think it was Salon that published it first and he did get it from someone in Fusion GPS. They don't care who they work for as long as they get paid. There job is to clean reputations that have gotten bad press. IIRC the Saudis have hired them. I might have an article on this somewhere in my bookmarks. If I had known that Russia Gate would go on this long I would have kept better track of the information I found.

@wendy davis

And then Linda Wood's link, below.

It's a real page turner. So, how do you suppose Miss Marcy will square all this into her Russia Russia Russia world view? Boy, was she bamboozled. I guess there's a reason no one leaked to her. She was too good at playing the useful idiot and keeping the hoax going no matter how preposterous it became. I predict great moments in cognitive dissonance coming soon to a blog near you.

#8

marcy wheeler's fondess for quoting buzzfeed, and in this case, the steele dossier, i'd stuck those words plus john mccain (as i'd rembered was a big player in this) into a bing bar, and found: ‘Did John McCain Provide The Infamous 'Trump Dossier' To BuzzFeed?’, zerohedge, dec. 6, 2018

“As the Daily Caller points out today, less than a handful of people had access to the dossier before it made its way to BuzzFeed: John McCain, David Kramer (a former State Department official and an associate of McCain), then FBI Director James Comey and Fusion GPS (the creator of the document). Fusion GPS has since admitted under oath that they did not share the document with BuzzFeed which basically just leaves John McCain (and/or his associate) or James Comey.

Asked about the dossier recently, an irritable, and perhaps defensive, McCain lashed out at a Daily Caller reporter (seemingly a new trend for McCain of late) saying only "I don’t know why you’re digging this up now."
In addition to McCain and Steele, opposition research firm Fusion GPS had the dossier, as did David J. Kramer, a former State Department official and an associate of McCdoain’s.

One person who was provided a copy of the salacious document, written by former British spy Christopher Steele, is Arizona Sen. John McCain. But McCain, who has already acknowledged providing an early version of the dossier to former FBI Director James Comey, denied this week that he also gave a version to BuzzFeed, which published it on Jan. 10.

“I gave it to no one except for the director of the FBI. I don’t know why you’re
digging this up now,” McCain said during a testy exchange with The Daily Caller on Wednesday.

McCain was asked whether he was BuzzFeed’s source after the Republican’s office declined to answer direct questions on the matter.
As a reminder, here is a recap of the timeline leading up the dossier's BuzzFeed debut:
McCain and Kramer, a former official at the McCain Institute, were first told about the dossier in November, during a conversation with Sir Andrew Wood, a former British spy and associate of Steele’s. McCain then dispatched Kramer to meet with Steele in London on Nov. 28.

Steele, who operates Orbis Business Intelligence in London, has revealed in the London lawsuit that he allowed Kramer to view the dossier but did not provide him a copy. He said that an “arrangement” was later made for Fusion to provide a copy of the dossier to McCain through Kramer.

McCain then provided a copy of the document to Comey during a Dec. 9 meeting.

Four days after McCain met with Comey, Steele would produce the final memo of the dossier, the one that was provided to BuzzFeed and which included the allegations against Gubarev.”

there's more, including this tweet at the bottom.

@realDonaldTrump "Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?

Oct 19, 2017

anyhoo, if i can manage it, i did go to emptywheel's house, and she has several posts on this news. not only do i experience vertigo when i'm there, but it's over several threads. the most vertiginous other thread was close to: 'trump flunkies trying to get assange outta the embassy'.