Paul Manafort Secretly Met With Julian Assange Multiple Times
Assange will never get the chance to prove that this never happened. Why? Because he is being charged under the Espionage Act which doesn't allow the person to put on a defense. It's Kabuki bullshit and should have never have used in a country that says it is one where it made up of laws.
Paul Manafort Secretly Met With Julian Assange Multiple Times
President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort secretly met with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on multiple occasions, with the last meeting occurring a few months before WikiLeaks released hacked Democratic National Committee emails in the summer of 2016, The Guardian reported Tuesday.
Manafort met with Assange in 2013, 2015 and “around March 2016,” sources told The Guardian. Trump hired him at the end of March.
The details of the meetings were unknown, and Manafort denied The Guardian’s report.
This is going to be one of the most infamous news disasters since Stern published the "Hitler Diaries".
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 27, 2018
The Ecuadoran embassy is one of the most photographed and surveilled locations in the history of the world. I find it hard to believe Paul Manafort snuck in there without anyone noticing.
— Fourth Stooge (@Fourth_Stooge) November 27, 2018
The Hillbots are happy as pigs in shit and saying that Assange should be charged for releasing the DNC and Her emails.
Attacking on the perceived intentions is twaddle. Attack the released data. Was it falsified? Much of it is absolutely verified - stuff on Afghanistan war. Stuff on the Dems. Verifiable.
— John Zibell (@JohnZibell) November 27, 2018
So what are you going too say when JA shows proof it was NOT Russia but in fact a Democrat intern named Seth Rich who was murdered in DC? Seriously, will that be enough or more Russia conspiracy? Use your heads. Obama and Hillary sold all of us out. US...not left vs right.
— The Unapologetic Patriot (@AFK9) November 27, 2018
There is a hearing today in Virginia brought by the someone in the justice department to get the secret indictment against Assange released and we know that his attorneys were not allowed in the embassy last weekend to prepare for this trial.
I SO agree with Rev. Wright!
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Court hearing
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
And once this country goes full
fascist, and I mean fully OBVIOUS to all fascism, these same assholes who cheer this shit on will come screaming and howling about how it could happen, with particular blame placed on those of us who tried in vain to warn them of just what they are doing and why we were not able to stop it.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Wikileaks. "Put your $ where your mouth is"...
Just to repeat.
Hello Guardian, balls in your court.
The other thing that really bothers me is that MSM et al keep referring to this as a hack - like some entity infiltrated and gained access by nefarious cyber means (see Stuxnet). Stupidly responding to a phishing email is not a hack. It is just stupid.
BTW how's Podesta's brother doing after he desolved his consulting company for conspiring with Ukrainians? Manafort? Mueller? Mueller?
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
Is it just me or is that coordinated smear?
When I looked at the original wikileaks tweet there sure we a TON of responses that seemed entirely repetitive in content and style... frequently happening in groups. Much of it seemed to be at about the 3rd grade level. Is that what Democrats have come to now?
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Oh it's being coordinated alright
So we are supposed to believe that Mueller just recently found out that Manafort visited Assange multiple times in March, 2016? How can people not see that they are being manipulated and fed pure grade A bullshit? With as many times as we have been lied to including by Robert Mueller who stated unequivocally that Saddam had WMDs?
Does the person who wrote this comment not see how asinine it is for him to believe this?
I would say that the one who is f'cking stupid is the one who believes this.
BTW. The Guardian was caught lying about how Assange tried to arrange slipping out of the embassy and going to Russia because Vlad was going to let him stay there and be room mates with Snowden.
The source? That's it? Just the source? Well who is that source and where has he been for over two years while holding on to this information? Good Gawd. America's IQ had slipped big time since Trump was elected.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Henh.
The slippage in America's IQ long preceded the election of Trump. Remember how deregulating transportation would lead to safer trucks and more comfortable air travel? How Reagan's tax cuts would generate huge amounts of revenue instead of huge deficits? How kicking Saddam out of Kuwait would make the world safe for Democracy? How millions of American jobs would be created with NAFTA? How repealing Glass-Steagall was good for consumers? How easy defeating the Taliban would be? How you could keep your doctor while medical costs came down?
This has been a long time coming, dating
back to Jan 20, 1981 when ‘we’ had to witness a B-grade actor who couldn’t even remember breakfast ‘inaugurated’ as President of the United States. (I’m not disregarding Nixon at all. I’m just saying the corruption and increase of corporate/oligarchic control became much more blatant when Reagan was in ‘control’.)
And Al From/Bill Clinton’s Koch-Brothers-financed, Turd Way, Neo-liberal, center(?)-right, ‘New’ Democratic Party did everything they possibly could to pave the way for the 1% to take control of the our three branches of government. Since then it’s just been a case of 99% of us watching 1% of ‘us’ turning this country into an oligarchy...
...one that is now losing its position as the ‘leader of the pack’ of the world’s economy and that expects us to provide the cannon fodder AND financing of military escapades to maintain US hegemony.
Poor old Manafort’s greatest misfortune was that he hooked up with a guy who, though obviously dishonest and disgusting, had the audacity to stand up and criticize policies of the Obama administration and to challenge the Annointed One for the Oval Office. And won.
Someone needs to look at Mueller and all his ‘secret’ agreements and deals. He’s way out of control.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
To be fair the "You can keep your doctor" was true.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
About keeping doctors.
While it's true that Obamacare didn't have assigned doctors BUT if you had a doctor under your old private plan and then switched to an Obamacare plan, especially those under expanded Medicaid, then you lost your doctor because many don't accept Medicaid. In addition, many of the new health insurance plans cut doctors to save money. So people did lose their doctors.
Reference: MarketWatch -- 7 Obamacare failures that have hurt Americans
People lose their doctors
While I agree that Obama saying the words “you can keep your doctor” when the truth was “this law doesn’t require you to change doctors” left him and the law open to criticism, I think from a rhetorical standpoint it is understandable. To me, calling that a lie is a stretch and basically a talking point, because the intended meaning is clear.
I mean, did anyone actually think the ACA included provisions that compelled all doctors to accept those particular insurance policies?
Anyone can always always potentially “lose your doctor” regardless of what insurance you have.
I know people who’ve had scheduled surgeries cancelled because either the hospital/facility or the surgeon suddenly no longer accepted their (non-ACA) insurance. And some who’ve had to switch doctors because the one they’d been seeing suddenly stopped accepting their insurance. This is not a new problem, nor is it isolated to ACA policies.
Obama can be criticized for his over-simplified rhetoric on it as politically unwise, but I don’t think it belongs on the list of his actual lies. Which is plenty long without that item anyway.
Third grade level?
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Smear....
Anonymously sourced. WikiLeaks has bet the Guardian 1 million dollars that Assange never met with Manafort. Of course this smear will be heard round the world just as they are closing in on Assange - how convenient for the Brits.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Assange is suing the guardian for libel
The media is reporting all kind of lies which stems from the guardian article. Assange should have sued Luke when he reported that he had tried to go to Russia. That article was based on "sources close to Wikileaks" and it never happened.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
It saddens me so much
to see the Guardian, a once-great newspaper, descending into this. Also, Amy Goodman on DemocracyNow this morning was repeating the US establishment line that the Russian annexation of Crimea (after a vote) was illegal without mentioning that the overthrow of the Yanukovych government was a coup led by fascists supported by the US. It seems to me that a recent, very effective, tactic of the corporate, imperialist powers that be is to co-opt formerly progressive, or at least sentient and analytical, news sources. Trump is instrumental in this in that he is so obviously bad that many think that anyone who doesn't run about screaming as though one's hair is on fire every time the name Trump is mentioned must be spawn of Satan or Putin (or maybe they are the same). Every bit of crap news that condemns Russia or Trump is accepted with little questioning and it makes the uncritical left so easy to manipulate.
I agree
FYI: Amy Goodman sold out a few years ago for $1 million to the Carnagie and Ford Foundations. Since then her show has been hit and miss, but mostly miss. She had a Syrian warlord on her show explaining how this country was trying to save the Syrians from Assad who was killing his citizens. No mention of our country illegally invading Syria and using Al Qaida to help overthrow Assad. Or that we had killed hundreds of thousands of citizens and made many more refugees.
I have tried finding the article I read on this that was written by Sibel Edmonds. Still looking...
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
I stopped watching Amy a while ago
Amy who? Never heard of her.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Here it is
BFP Exposé: CIA-Obama-George Soros Coordinated Misinformation Campaign Targets Russia
Another story, “Democracy Now” Runs Interference for Imperialism in Syria, about Goodman's interview with Anand Gopal, former fellow at the New America Foundation from 2012-2014.
"If I sit silently, I have sinned." - Mossadegh
Thanks, joroga
That is one of the articles I have been looking for.
This is another one related to it. No juice to excerpt it. Links in it lead to more articles. How sad that Amy did that. I wonder what her motives were?
DEMOCRACY NOW LAUNCHES ANTI-SYRIA PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
A disturbing, but necessary question.
It happens way too often in media. Rachel Maddow is a prime example. I think because producing a polished-looking (a.k.a. "slick") multi-media broadcast is an intense and complicated undertaking, patterns (habits) are developed to make the process easier. (I can lip-sync Goodman's decades-unchanged scripted intro perfectly - and it's not really a "war and peace report" anyhow) Adopting popular memes is easier than de-bunking them, so leaves more time to coordinate show production. The first mistakes are accepting that slick presentations and packaged news "wrap-ups" are necessary to be distributed widely. That may be true, but it's also deadly to free thought.
That's why the best news "shows" today are not highly produced, and usually cover just one subject at a go, without time constraints. I do hope Jimmy Dore sticks with unscripted, open and open-ended discussion and commentary. Same with The Real News Network. And of course, in online "print" news, Consortium News is indispensable, as is The Intercept, though the latter's "big tent" approach occasionally requires a bit of skepticism.
"If I sit silently, I have sinned." - Mossadegh
Heh.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
This is reminding me
Reminds me of "Soylent Green"
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/21/nsa-nick-clegg-guardian-...
Now, under Katherine Viner, it's little more than a safe space for Hillbots.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
It should be very easy to prove whether or not Manafort
visited with Assange. So far there is no proof whatsoever, Manafort doesn't appear in the Ecuadorian embassy records.
It isn't typically possible to enter a foreign embassy without some sort of ID and registration. I call bullshit unless they can place Manafort there with some physical evidence.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
2h ago on Twitter
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
The Guardian has turned into bird cage material
It has become absolutely worthless. They are 100% hung-ho on every rumor out there and don’t hesitate to print it. Always based on ‘sources’ ala the NYT and WP. It totally lost their credibility (and collective marbles) when it started backing all this RUSSIA!!! crap.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
More from Wikileaks
Wikileaks betting ‘$1mn & editor’s head’ against Guardian claims that Manafort met Assange
This sentence here should have had people asking how the hell they could come to this conclusion:
And which is it? Were the emails leaked or were they stolen? Hey. What happened to they were hacked?
(apologizes for the cussing. Mornings are a bitch for me and this news doesn't help)
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Glenn Greenwald
has a good article on this.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
From Glenn Greenwald's article
When I saw Luke Harding's name, I immediately discounted his claims. I do not understand how Harding continues to get any press. Aaron Mate destroyed Harding a while back in an on line video interview.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ikf1uZli4g]
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Excellent, RA!
Article updated
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Well, I will believe this only
when we see proof.
There is no freaking way anyone would come or go from an embassy without some sort of proof he or she came there. I find it very weird that one of the supposed visits was in 2013, long before Trump decided to run and long before Manafort was planted in the Trump campaign. I also find it weird that it took Mueller nearly two years to discover this fact. I also find it not believable that even IF Manafort visited Assange in the Ecuadoran embassy that there is any proof of "collusion."
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
What I really want to see
is the pee tapes. Screw the emails. This whole thing started with pee tapes.
My god...you people are so stupid!
Of COURSE Manafort met with Assange, to usurp our democracy! Here's the proof:
Manafort clearly disguised himself as Pamela Anderson! It's so obvious if you look! Oh, and never mind the date 11/2016; Manafort also clearly manipulated the press into believing this transpired in November, but these pics of him in his disguise, really took place "around March 2016." The press and photos were hacked by Russians to reflect November 2016.
Craig Murray: Assange Never Met Manafort....
Former British diplomat Craig Murray has just written an article debunking the claim that Paul Manafort visited Julian Assange. Link: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
A quote from the article:
"The problem with this latest fabrication is that Moreno had already released the visitor logs to the Mueller inquiry. Neither Manafort nor these “Russians” are in the visitor logs.
This is impossible. The visitor logs were not kept by Wikileaks, but by the very strict Ecuadorean security. Nobody was ever admitted without being entered in the logs. The procedure was very thorough. To go in, you had to submit your passport (no other type of document was accepted). A copy of your passport was taken and the passport details entered into the log. Your passport, along with your mobile phone and any other electronic equipment, was retained until you left, along with your bag and coat. I feature in the logs every time I visited.
There were no exceptions. For an exception to be made for Manafort and the “Russians” would have had to be a decision of the Government of Ecuador, not of Wikileaks, and that would be so exceptional the reason for it would surely have been noted in the now leaked supposed Ecuadorean “intelligence report” of the visits. What possible motive would the Ecuadorean government have for facilitating secret unrecorded visits by Paul Manafort? Furthermore it is impossible that the intelligence agency – who were in charge of the security – would not know the identity of these alleged “Russians”.
Yeah, but ...
What's to keep Mueller or Moreno from doctoring the tapes and the log book? After realizing that Russia Gate is not going to go away I'm thinking that the PTB have so much invested in it that they will not allow it to fade away. Evah! Nope. Russia Gate is here to stay to be pulled out whenever they need to pin something on Russia or anyone who they want to frame. And why not? People have fallen for the new WMDs scam without blinking an eye.
Good lord. After how many times they have lied us into wars and other acts you would think that people would wise up and not keep falling for the bullshit. At least question some of what they say now and then. But sadly no.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Some idiots still think that Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11
And that WMD's were found right where Cheney said.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
From the article
First line proves my point.
If Mueller wants a visitors log with Manafort on it or anyone else he's going to get it. I'm seeing articles that say that because Corsi sent an email saying that Wikileaks is going to be releasing some of Hillary's and Podesta's emails that means that he had been in contact with Assange.
I guess no one remembers that Wikileaks told the world that he would be doing that "soon " and before the election. If they want you guilty then they will manufacture the evidence that you are.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Trump can put an end to Russia Gate any time he wants to
The question is why hasn't he? He was going to release the original FISA warrant that the FBI got to spy on the people in Trump campaign starting with Carter Page. There are other documents that he can order released that would blow the lid off of this.
One reason why he hasn't released the FISA warrant was because it shows how the U.K. intelligence agencies were spying on his campaign and the information given to the FBI. Gee. I guess our government doesn't want us to know that a foreign country is spying on us.
I'm coming to the conclusion that Trump is quite willing to play along with Russia Gate because it keeps the country focused on it instead of what congress is doing. To prove this just take a look at the wreck list on ToP any day of the week. I finally saw one that was about the Yemen genocide, but it never made the wreck list and had few comments.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
What DID Rev. Wright say?
I haven't heard about that guy in a while - never particularly thought I would again.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
I forget exactly.
Nothing worse than I read here almost every day. Paraphrasing "US is a shit country that has caused all the misery in the world and is still racist." He's entitled to his opinion, but it really wasn't smart for an ambitious politician to go to that church. I took it all with a grain of salt. The church I went to as a kid said you would go to Hell if you drank real wine. They used grape juice for Communion. And believed that fossils were either fakes or planted by Satan to trick us into doubting the truth of Genesis.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
It was, literally, a Jeremiad
very much along the lines of the Book of Jeremiah - Ye are doing evil in the sight of the Lord by this and this and this, repent or woe betide ye!
What got him in really hot water was when he said "God damn America!"
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I remember that, of course
But what did he say recently? I'm assuming a reference is being made to something he said recently. Am I mistaken?
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Read Wright's whole speech
He was Obama's preacher before Barry dumped him over his speech. If you listen or read the whole thing he wasn't wrong. He was talking about how blacks have been treated.
Search: Rev Wright speech
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
How can that possibly be called "due process"?
The US Constitution, Amendment V
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Fifth Amendment has been a sick joke since 1947,
and getting increasingly sicker since then.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.