Perez and Pelosi are being challenged
It appears that Old Guard leadership of the Democratic Party may not be able to just waltz back into power. At least not without a fight.
For starters, a 'Never Nancy' caucus is forming.
The revolt inside the Democratic Party against Nancy Pelosi's return to the House speakership is gaining momentum with a growing number of Democrats signing a letter pledging not to support the California Democrat for speaker.“It’s going to get ugly,” a senior House Democrat told Fox News.
Fox News has confirmed at least 17 House Democrats, including incumbents and incoming members, have signed on to a document saying they will not support Pelosi on the House floor for speaker. A Democrat familiar with the effort says they are trying to add more names before the letter is publicly released.
If all those Democrats vote against Pelosi on the floor, Pelosi would not have the votes for speaker. To get the gavel, Pelosi will first need to pick up a majority of the Democratic Caucus in internal leadership elections, then go on to win an absolute majority of the House.
Reps. Seth Moulton of Massachusetts and Filemon Vela of Texas are two of the Democrats leading the fight for new leadership, and they appear to be winning. But nothing is set in stone yet.
According to a CNN tally, 10 incoming freshman have said they'd oppose Pelosi, while 13 incumbents have vowed to oppose her.
But it's unclear if those members might vote against her in the caucus yet vote for her on the House floor. After the 2016 elections, 63 Democrats opposed Pelosi in the leadership races but nearly all of them voted for her later on the floor.
Pelosi is incredibly unpopular with voters. Nearly half of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents want someone else.
Both the Progressive Caucus and the neoliberal New Democrats Caucus gained in the last election, so nothing was really settled as far as direction of the party.
The Progressive Caucus had 78 members and is expecting a net gain of at least 13 members, after factoring in retirements. That leaves the CPC at somewhere between 91 and 97 members.
Progressives would have done far better if the DCCC hadn't supported corporate Dems over progressives by a ratio of 100 to 1.
The pro-business New Democrat Coalition currently has 68 members and should have at least 89 members next year.
On the other hand, when it comes to the issues, incoming Democrats are leaning left.
The resulting data shows that 65 percent of the incoming House freshman class embraced some version of Medicare-for-all or expanding Social Security benefits. Almost 80 percent embraced lowering prescription drug costs by challenging Big Pharma. And 82 percent favored challenging corporate power in our political system by rejecting corporate PAC money, passing a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United or passing campaign finance reform such as public financing of elections.As Vox’s Matthew Yglesias reported, this stands in stark contrast to “what a moderate Democrat looked like in the very recent past.”
The Congressional Black Caucus took a shot at Tom Perez at the DNC, but for the worst reason.
Members passed a measure inside their caucus stating they have “no confidence” in Perez as DNC chair. Black Caucus members remain upset with how Perez handled the historic August vote to strip superdelegates of their power during the party’s presidential nominating process. The changes block superdelegates — elected officials and party leaders — from casting a vote for any presidential candidate unless a second ballot is required at the 2020 national convention.
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“I think just a lack of respect for our members — you know during the Hillary [Clinton] race if we went to 300 places for Congress, we went to 400-500 places for Hillary,” Richmond said of Black congressional members. “It’s one of the things with being a party leader.”
More proof that the AA community is being poorly represented.
In the Senate, OTOH, there was no drama at all.
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Speaking of Nancy Pelosi, she was on TV today
claiming that the Democrats first priority is passing HR 1. Oh, yes, and insurance coverage for those with pre-existing conditions (which, of course, is already the law). Not a whisper about Medicare for All.
Not sure if the campaigning by Pelosi substitutes
...is still going to happen but I am not hearing shit from the MSM on this topic. Progressives know Pelosi and Schumer gotta go but it appears the Dems will sacrifice more elections for their sake.
Pie recipes are flying on ToP over this
"You know that we only have the ACA because of Nancy right?"
Heh, exactly. Nancy made sure that we were still stuck with insurance companies instead of having single payer. Plus she's the biggest fundraiser-er ever! Gotta have lots and lots of money to get into and stay in congress doncha know?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
the notion that a person could preside over the
most complete and astonishing nationwide legislative implosion of a political party that anybody living can remember, and then be handed the gavel to try again, is beyond bizarre.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
All the Dems on Twitter are aflutter with charges of sexism
against anyone who opposes the magnificent Pelosi. She is being hailed as the architect and mastermind of the blue wave. Only took me 5 days to be sorry I voted against Trump and for the Dems. I still waffle on who I hate more.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
The bid to stop her unless is from the right....
Anytime I see bi-partisan, my skin crawls.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/416529-new-hurdle-arises-to-pelosis-m...
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
George Carlin explained it thusly,
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
If you can call it a blue wave
Despite 3, possibly 4 establishment Democrats having lost their seats in the Senate.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Nate Silver says Bernie has 0% chance in 2020
Nate and Markos.
prediction markets are stupid.
they aren't grounded in science, they're grounded in ideology, the marketist fetish of the majority of american economists.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Nate knows
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
And the shoving of
dfarrah
I think you mean....
Perez and Pelosi are
beingchallenged.Time for the knacker's yard. Especially Pelosi. Perez is little more than a place man.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Perez is little more than a place man.
saidregurgitated anything except a talking point. He'd phone it in if he could still get the check. Perez, Obama's pick to rebuild those thousand Dem seats lost. Another great example of Obamaacumensabotage.We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
" He'd phone it in if he could still get the check."
Chuckle. A mainstream 'Democrat' indeed.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Dude Barack is coming to Utah
to give a speech to some techno dudes and dudets next week. No word on ticket price$ yet, but I doubt that they will be cheap. Maybe it's just me, but if I got $37.5 million for writing a book I think I'd be just fine with that and spend the rest of my life going places and having fun. Hell, I wouldn't even need that much. But who am I to judge others after they sold out?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Narcissists
have a hard time coming up with a compelling activity/existence that doesn't revolve around 'them'.
(See WJC, HRC, BHO, DT)
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Meanwhile Michelle Obama...
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
....
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
@snoopydawg From 2016 but no
Obama Fails Again With Out-Of-Touch Speech That Proves How Bad He Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=DrqAUebq6Ic
knackers
From Wikipedia:
"You know she's too damn old when you can't even make a decent fricassee out of her!" -- Alferd Packer to George Donner
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
in canada, "knackers" means testicles.
there's an old canadian poem, "God Sour the Milk of the Knacking Wench", in which the poet rages against the itinerant woman whose job was traveling from farm to farm castrating the livestock.
similarly, i knew some people in scotland who believed that the phrase "i'm knackered" -- meaning "exhausted" -- originally implied "worn out from sex".
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
My God...
My God...
Americans live in a twilight zone of stupidity and self-induced amnesia, asphyxiating themselves on a smog of lies, delusions, and hallucinations.
Pelosi is a liberal, a sadistic, rich, monstrous liberal who only cares about herself and her wealth. Instead of giving us single payer, we got the ACA which was a boondoggle for the insurance companies. Because of the ACA instead of us having single payer, and since it is estimated that about 45,000 people die because of lack of healthcare, that means that we have an estimate of about 400,000 people have died since the passing of the ACA because of the greed, but most importantly, malice of people like Pelosi.
This walking Crypt Keeper, seemingly intoxicated on some medication that causes the worst slurring and speech giving I've seen, is a neoliberal manifestation of what America is today -- a society of rich old people like her who want nothing more than to kill poor people, all the while smugly walking around believing they are good people.
Fuck Nancy Pelosi, and fuck anyone who likes her.
Nancy Pelosi
... neo-...
... pseudo- ...
Liberal with our freedoms, rights, and money; but stingy with hers and that of her 0.1%er ilk.
Not with my dick, if you please!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides