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ecuadorian AG hatches plot for Assange exit [updated x 2]

...toward the end of the comments #EvilBastards

a subtweeter offered this from teh Google Translator:

"The government this week scored an important legal victory over the case of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, whose future is still uncertain, although analysts believe that the country's recent position could mark the beginning of a solution.

Last Monday, the Justice of Ecuador rejected the constitutional protection action requested by Assange so that a protocol with a series of hygiene conditions (including that of his cat), visits and communications would not be applied.

A "momentary" victory, says Efe Carlos Poveda, defender of Assange in Ecuador, as he still awaits a response to his request for an appeal and does not rule out international instances if his request does not prosper in Ecuador.

But before talking about winners or losers, international analyst and lawyer Esteban Santos López argues that the underlying issue is that the solution is now "in the hands of the asylee" once Quito has given two options: abide by the protocol or surrender to the British justice with certain guarantees.

Guarantees that are mentioned in a letter delivered by the Ecuadorian State in August to the founder of WikiLeaks and its international defender, Baltasar Garzón and read this week in Quito by the Attorney General of Ecuador, Iñigo Salvador.

"On March 7, 2018, Secretary of State Boris Johnson declares that Britain will not extradite Mr. Assange to a third country where he can be sentenced with the death penalty," Salvador read in a meeting with foreign correspondents.

Poveda does not conform to that version and asks that "the United Kingdom document be displayed."

But, according to the reading of Salvador, Santos - a master in dispute resolution at the University of Geneva - believes that "the important thing is that these ghosts of extradition to the United States, which was what started all this, has already dissipated.", as well as the possibility of facing the Swedish justice.
Assange was required since 2010 by the Swedish authorities due to the accusations of two women for rape, which he denies, but Sweden closed the case by failing to advance the investigation.

"At this moment the only thing that remains is to face the British justice for not having followed the court order to appear before the competent authority," says Efe Santos, for whom Ecuador has "finished putting the points on the I's" Australian with his warning that he "will not allow" him to be untruthful.

This after Assange considered in a videoconference at the hearing last Monday that the United States and Britain allegedly press Ecuador to end his asylum at the Embassy in London, where he has been since 2012.

In the search for an exit to the Assange case, the eventuality of an international arbitration has been mentioned.

"The advantage of submitting the matter to an international tribunal is that the parties are obliged to comply with it, and if the Ecuadorian State loses that case and the international arbitrators come to impose the obligation to deliver Mr. Assange, that obligation it would not be a violation of international law as it would be now, "said Salvador.

An exit that for Santos is "very interesting", and that without being clear yet its concretion, "denotes a maturity in the change of the spokesmen that represent Ecuador" in a theme, which for him has entered the "moment to start" to trace the field for completion. "

Poveda believes that international arbitrations are more common in commercial matters, but believes that if this possibility is to materialize, it should occur between the States.
He defends therefore the need for talks between the Ecuadorian State and the legal team of Assange so he urges to "resume the dialogues" because "it is not possible that since June there is no fluid dialogue," he says.

Meanwhile, the lawyer sees the possibility of a solution to the case of Assange, who remains under asylum for fear of being arrested by the British authorities and deported to the US, where he presumes that he could be tried for the publication of documents. military and diplomats of a confidential nature."

Some of the translated language is awkward at the very least. Given that I've heard that the Bing Translator is preferable to teh Google, I'd tried to copy/paste the Spanish into it. As the fields are very narrow and short, I got utterly confused as the what I had, which parts I hadn't copy/pasted into my Word document. Anyhoo.

When I went back this morning, I found this as well:

If you click the top Tweet to make it stand alone, you'll see that Christine Assange seemed appalled by the misinformation/disinformation in the piece, WikiLeaks explained how arbitration courts work even with Assange having been given Ecuadorian citizenship, the letter from US politicians to Moreno asking for Julian's extradition, etc.

From wsws.org this morning: ‘New York Times ramps up smear campaign against Julian Assange’, Tom Hall, 6 November 2018

A pair of blaring headlines appearing in Friday’s edition of the New York Times purported to show that the newspaper had obtained damning new evidence of collusion between WikiLeaks, the Trump campaign and the Russian government to damage the campaign of Hillary Clinton in 2016.

The latest round of smears appearing in the Times, the journalistic mouthpiece of the Democratic Party and sections of the military-intelligence apparatus opposed to Trump, is aimed at preparing public opinion for an eventual indictment on espionage charges of WikiLeaks founder and publisher Julian Assange, preparations for which are already in full swing. The Times articles appeared amid widespread media speculation that special counsel Robert Mueller could begin handing down indictments soon.

Consortium News reported on Saturday that Assange was the target of a failed break-in two weeks ago, according to Assange’s legal team. While the details of the incident are still unclear, it demonstrates the severity of his situation as well as total abdication by the government of Ecuador of responsibility for Assange’s security, which appears to now be virtually nonexistent. Assange apparently was able to foil the intruder only because he had set a booby-trap in his room.

The incident has been totally unreported in the American press more than two days after the story broke.

The Times articles center on e-mail correspondence obtained by the newspaper between Stone and Stephen Bannon, who had left his post as editor of the right-wing Breitbart News website to head Trump's election campaign, weeks before the official release of the Clinton e-mails by WikiLeaks. The emails, the newspaper alleges, “show how the political operative Roger J. Stone Jr. sold himself to Trump campaign advisers as a potential conduit to WikiLeaks.”

The carefully hedged language used by the authors, to the effect that Stone “sold himself” as a WikiLeaks confidante rather than actually being one, is an implicit admission that the Times ’s supposedly bombshell revelations amount to nothing. All of the information that Stone passed on to Bannon about WikiLeaks was already publicly available at the time, a fact the authors are compelled to admit parenthetically halfway through their commentary providing “context” for the e-mails.

Stone also related vague, secondhand observations about Assange’s security concerns in the Ecuadorian embassy, which are alleged to have come from comedian and WikiLeaks supporter Randy Credico (allegations that Credico has also denied). However, there is no evidence at all that Stone had backchannel access to WikiLeaks representatives, let alone that he was reaching out to Bannon with the authorization of WikiLeaks.

Taken in context, the Times’s articles point to the immediate danger that Julian Assange finds himself in. The working class in the United States and internationally must be mobilized to defend the WikiLeaks founder from the attacks of the American state.

for posterity, i accidentally ran into the aforementioned screed by marcy wheeler: ‘Putting a Face (Mine) to the Risks Posed by GOP Games on Mueller Investigation’ July 3, 2018, emptywheel (196 comments)

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with US helping all the way. Great. I hope there's an avalanche of data Wikileaks is holding for just this time.

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wendy davis's picture

@Snode

but the whole communiqué is fraught with weirdities, if i can coin a word. this section might have lost something in teh google translation:

"A "momentary" victory, says Efe Carlos Poveda, defender of Assange in Ecuador, as he still awaits a response to his request for an appeal and does not rule out international instances if his request does not prosper in Ecuador."

but of course his protocol changes won't be amended, *if an appeal to a higher court* is even granted. but what are 'international instances' anyhoo? and if Poveda had meant assange might agree to 'binding arbitration', it's hard to think it's so. but then if one isn't cynical about all this, one ain't paying attention.

and how silly to quote boris johnson's 'no death penalty' and the conclude "the important thing is that these ghosts of extradition to the United States, which was what started all this, has already dissipated." but oh, yes, still face british justice for jumping bail. brilliant he thinks this is all soooo mature a new avenue for...fluidity. gawd's blood.

here are the actual protocols msm keep minimizing to caring for his cat and personal hygiene. sneeze twice and you're out on your ass, arrested by The Crown, next stop gitmo. the medical protocols just themselves are freaky-deaky control freak authoritarian.

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@Snode Ecuador must have been talking to the Democrats.

"Hey, pal, I got a good strategy for ya..."

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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...is evidently what saved him during the break-in
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/11/03/break-in-attempted-at-assanges-res...

Sometimes low-tech is more effective I guess. I wish Australia would demand his release and let him go home. I think that is one angle they are working toward. Heroes are villains, and villains are recognized as heroes. Crazy ain't it?

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

when i realized it hadn't come through with the bits from wsws i couldn't remember how to add into that infernal text box. but i was totally vexxed with CS in their four-piece coverage announcements, to say the truth. deleted comments galore, (ahem) 'equivocations', weird timing, as well.

i can't say where australian politics now post-turnbull (scott john morrison since 24 August 2018), although there are some petitions out there.

it's hard to imagine that the newly minted PM would defy the US, though, isn't it?

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as it's hard for me to parse BS from fact in a lot of it, and i find her rather thinking rather convoluted as well in her desire to nail trump and assange, and is ground zero of
#russia-gate. but on the subject of the break-in at the ecuadorian embassy snoopy dawg had written up the other day, she'd also featured this:

CIA Coder Jailed for 'Vault 7' Leaks Complains of 'Cruel and Unusual' Punishment’, oct. 31, 2018 sputnik news

that piece referenced the porn on his computer/s, etc., truth or not, teh salacious sells, justifies further reasons for large punishment, etc. (think: osama bin laden's computers were Stuffed with Porn !!!),

but ‘US Government Reveals It Has Video Evidence of Joshua Schulte Sharing Classified Information as Ecuador Restricts Assange’s Legal Visits, nov.2, emptywheel

“While I absolutely don’t rule out the government either focused on Schulte back in March 2017 for reasons not disclosed in the search warrant application, or that they parallel constructed the real reasons badly (both of which would be of significant interest, but both of which his very competent public defender can deal with), the docket suggests the Vault 7 case against him got fully substantiated after the porn case, perhaps because of the stuff he did last year on Tor that got him jailed in the first place. As I noted, that Tor activity closely followed one of Julian Assange’s more pubic extortion attempts using the Vault 8 material Schulte is accused of sharing, though Assange has made multiple private extortion attempts both before and since.

Which brings me to the second new charge, transmitting and attempting to transmit national defense information to a third party, with a time span of December 2017 to October 2018. Effectively, the government claims that even after Schulte was jailed last December, he continued to share classified information.

I’m particularly interested in the government’s use of “attempted” in that charge, not used elsewhere. The time period they lay out, after all, includes a period when Ecuador restricted Julian Assange’s communication. Effectively, the government revealed on Wednesday that they have video evidence of Schulte sharing classified information with … someone.”

"But I also think that you don’t necessarily need to charge WikiLeaks in the conspiracy to sustain a conspiracy charge; you can make them unindicted co-conspirators, just like Trump would be. I have long noted that you could charge Assange, instead, for his serial attempts to extort the United States, an effort that has gone on for well over 18 months using the very same files that Schulte is alleged to have leaked to WikiLeaks (extortion attempts which may also involve Roger Stone). Assange has accomplished those extortion attempts, in part, with the assistance of his lawyers, who up until this week (as far as I understand from people close to Assange) were still permitted access to him."

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@wendy davis

telling the truth. Sure likes to brag that she worked with the FBI doesn't she? I wonder if she was a child of the 60's and anti establishment?

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The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

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@snoopydawg

not only asserts what even 'most nat sec agencies' claim as fact (as all good librul, Dem mouthpiece media do), but she extrapolates from those points with her...biases. as a side note, the 2016 election cycle should be named: "When democrats learned to love the CIA".

but i went back to try to make more sense of that piece earlier, but only had more Qs, as in: why in hell did schulte have multiple pieces of internet-connected hardware while he was in prison, and sure, maybe they were planted by the cia pre-loaded with all those email accounts and addresses, not 'smuggled in by guards'. the cia vault 7 (was it marble?) showed how easily that could be accomplished.

but where she took off really into the weeds, imo, was intimating that it was assange he'd "attempted to leak more classified" info to, as he was cut off from communications at the time.

i did happen to find one of her 'assange attempts to extort government' pieces: 'Two Days after Julian Assange Threatened Don Jr, Accused Vault 7 Leaker Joshua Schulte Took to Tor', June 20, 2018, the evidence being #vault 8 on his supposed tweet. and it's back to the 'oh, gee; multiple members use julian's accounts' answer.

but it would take someone with better leading and analytical skills than i to parse her current schulte 'exposé, and it might require creating an outline, too./s not.worth.it.

anyway, someone told her once in a comment that she sure is just a higher-tone Luke Harding'. your "I wonder if she was a child of the 60's and anti establishment?" must have been jest, and it did make me laugh, but...

as to bragging she works for the fibbies, you can look up 'emptywheel and full disclosure', iirc. she'd said she'd spent a boatload of bucks consulting attorneys, but in the end she gave the fbi a tip concerning an email (all of this is by my corrupted memory) she felt they needed to know. did she point>> to some news? it may have been about russia wanting to federalize syria, and if so, b of MOA came on and resisted that idea. he was called a russian troll for his audacity...

but the reason for her disclosure was 'in case someone would kill me, i wanted you to know' (or close to that), etc. and of course in the comments, people pitched in money by the bucketsful.

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@wendy davis

But I don't believe she is a liar. More likely, her critical faculties have been consumed by her queen-sized delusions. I predict that blurred-boundary fabulations like this will become commonplace in her future.

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@Pluto's Republic

how apt. and after reading what you've written, i might have chosen to say as well: not a liar, but only too well-indoctrinated in her abject bias'.

it was so like her commentariat often claiming that she's a fearless DemocRat Patriot, etc., that after she'd offered a scant list of the long list of protocols issued by lenin moreno, including 'take care of your cat', one commenter noted "A top warning sign of someone being a psychopath is indifference to the sufferings of animals…."

and again, this epic rubbish: "Assange has accomplished those extortion attempts, in part, with the assistance of his lawyers, who up until this week (as far as I understand from people close to Assange) were still permitted access to him."

what.the.fuck, marcy? but phrase of the day: "I predict that blurred-boundary fabulations like this will become commonplace in her future."

thank you, pluto's republic. and marcy will still keep seeking to destroy Moby Dick until...Moby Dick finds her.

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@Pluto's Republic

Wikileaks, and now this, even though clicking teh google translate language and trying to read it is like reading in dense fog:

...with some very ignorant subtweets, of course. this one may take the cake, however. i assume that's rasputin?

on edit: hadn't meant to direct it just to you, pluto; dunno how that happened. user error, though.

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@wendy davis

This is what I can't wrap my brain around. The CIA has never told us the truth about anything and just because the Clinton Creature lost to theee worst candidate ever people are buying what they are selling. That they believe that congress would just be business as normal if a foreign government was controlling the president just boggles my mind.

I wouldn't waste any time trying to figure out how he could get that many devices while he's locked behind bars. But I did think that the porn on his computer was a nice touch. This tells me that the case against him isn't as strong as they think it is. Good luck for him to prove it though. BTW. Do prisons have wifi running through them? How would he have been able to send information out on one of his 13 devices. Sheesh talk about overkill.

Yeah right. The information she gave to the FBI was so critical that someone would try to kill her over it. I can't believe that her groupies fell for it. But to constantly remind people of what she did says something about her ego. Silly woman.

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The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”

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@snoopydawg

to have some notion as to who might 'terminate her with prejudice', but my imagination hadn't extended that far. if anyone had asked, i can't remember it, but then oy, my RAM needs disc repair.

yeppers, the 'love and honor the CIA' meme is mind-boggling, as it is now with 'Assange's publication of vaults 7 and 8....endangers our safety!' wot? marcy had a just security link highlighted about which she said 'more on it later', but what the authors have written is akin to 'political journalism'. pot meet kettle, but although i'd only scanned it, they still accepted as fact the 'trump-russia-assange' flim-flammery, so i dunno what she'd meeant.

dunno about the wifi, but it does seem that their case against schulte accepts it as so.

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stay safe, julian,

'the ballad of julian assange'. kinda reminds me of billy bragg.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQNWZa68aU&index=3&list=PL5CD028179431F...

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commentary and history by stefania maurizi at consortium news. oddly, she didn't have any of this, now the update. i did add it, a day late and a dollar short.

'The West is Failing Julian Assange', nov. 6

on edit: never mind; CN deleted my comments and links. #PersonaNonGrata

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@wendy davis

wd, when I go to the CN article, your comments and links are all there. Perhaps go there and have your browser reload the page? Dunno. All I know is that I see them.

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@travelerxxx

back, and thank you, buster keaton. i went back several times before i shut down last night, and still they hadn't been reinstated. on several of the recent 'assange announcements coming soon; we'll livestream a strategy session...', folks said theirs had disappeared. i could honk on about their obfuscations of the truth, but i'm at least glad they might write up these latest threats from the ecuadorian gummint.

'special to consortium news' racks me up, too. well sure, pepe escobar writes just for you, mmmm-hmmmm. that new banner coul be uglier, but i can't see how, lol. at least mike head at wsws has it, i'll put his 'small wonder' news at the bottom.

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Australian prime minister dismisses renewed calls to defend Julian Assange', nov. 8, 2018

"Morrison made no mention of these pleas when he was asked about Assange’s plight on a Gold Coast radio station on Monday. Instead Morrison tried to laugh off a call by actress Pamela Anderson, issued on the Nine Network’s “60 Minutes” program on Sunday night, for him to defend Assange, return his Australian passport and ensure his free passage home.

Asked if he intended to heed Anderson’s advice, Morrison chuckled loudly before replying: “No.” He added: “I’ve had plenty of mates who have asked me if they can be my special envoy to sort the issue out with Pamela Anderson. But putting that to one side, the serious issue is no, our position on that hasn’t changed.”

Leaving aside Morrison’s crude innuendo, his remarks constitute the first direct statement by the Liberal-National Coalition government of its unwavering support for the drive by the US administration, assisted by the British government, to get its hands on Assange.

Like the Labor government before it, the Coalition government is determined to see Assange locked away for life in the US, or even executed, because his brave and principled work on WikiLeaks over many years has helped expose the war crimes, mass surveillance and anti-democratic machinations committed by the US and its allies."

he also has the newest threats from Valencia (in the tweet above).

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