@arendt @arendt [video:https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/937376362469494784]

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here is Thomas Friedman at Saban Inst.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/10/links-10-16-18.html

He'd be happy to get rid of Arabs/Muslims

And as you say there is no reason for all this AI
crap unless you don't want hands on help or trouble
problem with this though could be once AI breaks
down who gonna fix it?

#1

for their greedy sociopathic ends. AI is just a force multiplier. Problem is, the 1% will have that multiplier and the 99% won't.

Its not really about armed robots, although those are coming because the ruling class wants them and doesn't care how many proles will be accidentally offed by them.

Its about Stasi-on-steroids surveillance and monitoring, not just of you purchases and emails, but of everything. The Chinese are rolling out "social credit", whereby you will be punished for not being enthusiastic enough about the government. Where your close associates will be at risk of guilt by association if they do not turn you in for thought crimes.

And, even all that is simply the prelude for putting 90% of humanity into open air concentration camps that will make Gaza look like a holiday tour. The purpose of the AI is to deprive people of options and to control them. Once they are effectively in jail, mass extermination, by neglect, disease, pollution, and starvation will decimate them the same way European diseases decimated Native Americans.

@arendt

But, your compound is still vulnerable to roving bands of armed nutcases

If the nutcases come around, so be it. No amount of guns, dogs, etc., will deter anyone who is on a mission. I can only do my best to survive, but I will not live in fear.

I'm actually an optimist. I believe that we are in charge of nothing and the universe is in charge of everything. I believe we will go through 12-15 years of difficulty - strife - and will come out on the other end a different society. I believe we will become the society we wish, but not without lots of turmoil. We will enter the 5th dimension, in the 2030's, ready for the peace we so desire.

I could be wrong, but imagine if I'm not!

#2

We live in a rural area with lots of acreage. It can become a family compound for me and my family. We can go underground if need be. This could buy us some time - who knows.

IMHO, the elites have left the cull too late. The existing population has stripped the planet bare, like a swarm of locusts. We have fished out the oceans, decimated the insect populations with pesticides (which is decimating birds that feed on them). Climate change is destroying mid-latitudes forests. When the last glacier in the Himalayas melts away, it will cause starvation in the Indian sub-continent. The ocean acidification is already disssolving shellfish shells in places like Oregon.

Since the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians on not with this program, it will take many more years to get the global panopticon up and running. But the climate change, resource depletion, forest and fishery devastation are already happening. The elites, hopefully, will go down with the rest of us from natural disasters.

But, that is all speculation. Therefore, it really is a matter of timing. If you can be self-sufficient on a rural compound, you might have a better chance than an urban dweller. But, your compound is still vulnerable to roving bands of armed nutcases (I'm thinking Idaho), to climate-induced crop failures, to infrastructure failure that prevents you from getting critical spare parts or replacements for things like pumps, generators, etc. (This, to me, is the big issue with sustainability - unless you want to go full Amish.)

@doh1304 @doh1304
of which I no longer remember the name. The gist of the movie was a race for land. I believe the entire world was in the race. It might have been Soylent Green or something like it. The end of the movie shows a couple finally securing their piece of land. What I do remember is the impact that movie had on me. So, I buy land. It's what I do.

#2
a "family compound" but the population density of China is 148 people/sq. kilometer (western China - Tibet, et all - lowers the figure dramatically, there are parts of China where the figures are as high as Hong Kong's 6751) and thanks to the 1 child policy was only growing by about 1 per year. They have abandoned the 1 child policy because too many people were refusing to comply, so expect that rate to double. The population density of India is 413. And you think that's bad? The US is only 34.5, that's your point of reference:
https://www.populationpyramid.net/population-density/india/2018/
In fairness there is not a direct relationship between population density and social ills - the Netherlands is 411, but the violence-free (dystopia) Singapore is 8164. (NYC is 10,431, SF is "only" 6,226, but neither should be considered acceptable , albeit for different reasons)

Arendt's argument is right - in fact it is happening - but we cannot allow that argument to be used to "disprove" the need to reduce the human population, as many in my experience are doing.

@arendt
speaks like an AI on jimson weed.

There's a lot of things affecting our mental health that makes us do crazy things, that puts us back into that trap door called the 13th Amendment. I did say "abolish," with the hat on. Because why would you keep something around that's a trap door? If you're building a floor, the Constitution is the base of our industry, right? Of our country, of our company. Would you build a trap door that if you mess up and you accidentally, something happens, you fall and you end up next to the Unabomber? You end up – you've got to remove all that trap door out of the relationship. The four gentleman that wrote the 13th Amendment? And I think the way the universe works, it's perfect. We don't have 13 floors, do we? You know, so the four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment didn't look like the people they were amending. Also, at that point it was illegal for blacks to read, or African-Americans to read, and so that meant if you actually read the amendment, you'd get locked up! And turned into a slave. Again, so what I think is we don't need sentences, we need partners. We need to talk to people. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I was connected with a neuropsychologist that works with the athletes in the NBA and the NFL. And he looked at my brain, it's equal on three parts. I'm going to go ahead, drop some bombs to you: 98th percentile IQ test. I had a 75 percentile of all human beings but it was counting eight numbers backwards off, there was repeating. So I'm going to work on that one. The other ones, 98 per cent. Tesla. Freud. You know, so he said that I actually wasn't bipolar. I had sleep deprivation which could cause dementia 10 to 20 years from now, where I wouldn't even remember my son's name. So all this power that I get, and I'm taking my son to the Sox game and all that? I wouldn't be able to remember his name, from a misdiagnosis. And what we need is, we can empower the pharmaceuticals and make more money. That's one thing. I've never stepped into a situation where I didn't make people more money. So we can empower pharmaceuticals. We can empower our industries. We can empower our factories. We can bring not only Adidas onshore, we can bring Foxconn and set up a factory in, I think, Minnesota.

#4
Seen on s t-shirt:

I love you like Kanye loves Kanye.