(Update 2 - MISFUD LIVES!): DNC: Papadopoulos's UK contact may be dead

You know, I have been selling the DNC short. They’re crazier than I ever imagined they could be. And what happens if the guy shows up? They’ll have to grease his doorknobs with some Novichok juice I guess.

But just in case he is MIA, they need to check and see what The Clinton Creature’s been up to. Generally she’s the common thread between a political scandal and a dead body, right?

DNC: Papadopoulos's UK contact may be dead

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Friday raised the prospect that the London-based professor who told former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton may be dead.

DNC lawyers wrote in court filings Friday that Joseph Mifsud, who spoke to Papadopoulos during the 2016 presidential election, "is missing and may be deceased," Bloomberg News reported. The lawyers did not elaborate.

The DNC stood by its claim in a statement to The Hill on Friday. The committee indicated that an investigator had been used to find Mifsud, who had disappeared for months, and was told the Maltese professor may be dead.

"The DNC's counsel has attempted to serve Mifsud for months and has been unable to locate or contact him. In addition, public reports have said he has disappeared and hasn't been seen for months," DNC spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/405672-dnc-lawyers-papadopou...

The possibilities for really bad drama and/or high camp comedy here are endless. How’s Booby going to pin this on some poor low hanging fruit?

I hope there are future episodes coming because I want to see what happens if he shows up. Or even better yet, if he IS defunct. Which will open the door to how did they know?

UPDATE:

Professor Joe Mifsud: a ‘ghost’ on the run from the Americans, Russians and Italians

Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud, who has gained international notoriety for allegedly being the person who connected the Trump campaign to the Russians looking to derail Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, is not only on the run from the Americans, Russians and the press, but also from the Italian judicial authorities, who have been unable to track down the wayward academic.

This week, in fact, Mifsud was a no-show in the courts of Palermo, where he was to answer to charges, along with two others, of having unjustifiably inflated salaries at a university consortium in Agrigento, Sicily, which he presided almost a decade ago.

At a hearing in Palermo, Italy, Joseph Mifsud was described as “a ghost” after neither he nor his lawyers turned up in court on Wednesday.

Sicilian prosecutors described Mifsud as a “peculiar subject” and said that all attempts to reach and notify the professor about the hearing had proved futile.

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The Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, in their report on Russia’s attempted interference in the election released in April, described Mifsud as being “Kremlin-linked”.

However, Mifsud also had Western ties at academic institutions like the Link Campus University in Rome, the University of Stirling in Scotland, the London Academy of Diplomacy and the London Centre for International Law Practice.

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These new questions about Mifsud come as Trump draws attention to reports that the FBI used another individual as a confidential informant in connection with the Russia case. The informant met several campaign officials, including Papadopoulos, during the 2016 race.

http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2018-07-14/local-news/Professor-J...

SECOND UPDATE:

Shadowy link man between Trump campaign and Russia is NOT dead but is living under a 'mystery identity' claims lawyer who has advised him

The Democratic National Committee, in legal papers on Friday, said Mifsud could be dead.

But a Swiss-German lawyer who is a close friend and adviser of Mifsud's told The Daily Caller the allegation 'nonsense.'

“I got it from really good sources. They say that he is alive, that he has another identity, and that he is staying somewhere, at a nice place,' Stephan Roh told the news website.

'I just this morning got a message, indirectly, that he is alive and that they have provided him with another identity,' added Roh, who did not describe his sources.

Roh, who co-owns Link Campus University in Rome, where Mifsud once taught, said Mifsud has denied to him directly that he spoke with Papadopoulos about the Clinton emails.

He also said he was detained at JFK International Airport in New York in October 2017 and questioned by the FBI about his relationship with Mifsud.

Mifsud has not been seen or heard from since November 2017, just after special counsel Robert Mueller revealed that Papadopoulos had pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the professor.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6153059/Shadowy-link-man-Trump-...

Who’s hiding him? And from who? Mueller’s was the last guy to see him (that we know of). And did he or did he NOT bring up Slithery’s emails?

This just keeps getting more interesting by the day.

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has an interesting piece up that's worth a read.

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This puts some meat on the bones of gulfgal’s essay interpreting the meaning of some very interesting video from McStain’s funeral. The wheels of the DNC bus seem to just about ready to fall off.

George Webb has also been all over the Ohrs over the past few days. The thousands of sealed warrants rumored to be waiting for a mass extinction event may be more than just wishful thinking.

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Through this process, what few recognize is that much of the material inside the Steele Dossier is actually research intelligence material unlawfully extracted from the FBI and NSA database; most likely in majority an assembly by Nellie Ohr.

Nellie et al. ran unauthorized searches through the security databases and gave the results to foreign agent Steele to pretend it was his own research.

How many serious crimes in just that one sentence?

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The drama of the deep state in full factional meltdown makes Mario Puzo look like a dime store hack.

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What is the significance of the license? I read the post, and all the comments on the first page. There's a really long comment by "CET" that rambles on about it, but I'm not thinking too clearly today. What is the significance?

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in the scenario, but, am I the only one who did not know that the FBI has an office in Rome?

On a related note, isn't it past time for the FBI, the CIA and Homeland Security to merge? Not only is all the duplication among them costly, but the artificial divisions and rivalries among them are dangerous.

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and CIA is not supposed to operate inside our borders.

"Homeland Security" Sounds like SS to me.

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of our elections. THAT is not a good thing.

Election Security
Elections play a vital role in a free and fair society and are a cornerstone of American democracy. We recognize the fundamental link between the trust in election infrastructure and the confidence the American public places in basic democratic function. A secure and resilient electoral process is a vital national interest and one of our highest priorities at the Department of Homeland Security.

We are committed to working collaboratively with those on the front lines of elections – state and local government, election officials, federal partners and the vendor community – to manage risks to election infrastructure. We will remain transparent as well as agile to combat and secure our physical and cyber infrastructure against new and evolving threats.

https://www.dhs.gov/topic/election-security

The Department of Duct Tape and Plastic running our elections is very unsettling to me.

As the Homeland Security Department called on Americans to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting to seal windows and doors in the event of a terrorist attack, critics on Wednesday said such precautions would have limited value and likened them to ineffective civil defense measures of the Cold War era.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-terror-ducttape-ct-story.html

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Whatever Homeland Security sounds like, we have been "blessed" with it. One of its functions was supposedly to ensure one central place for intel, whether from the FBI, the CIA or Homeland Security itself, lack of communication between our intel agencies supposedly having been one of the reasons we were subjected to 911. Of course, that could also have been accomplished without HS, if they had simply combined the CIA and the FBI back then, instead of creating a new bureaucracy.

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@HenryAWallace I'm most uncomfortable with any such merger, given that the FBI are supposed to be some sort of law enforcement, while the CIA and all the spy organizations basically are allowed to create and live within a lawless bubble because there are bad men in the world.

Been looking for a clip of that part of Foyle's War where Foyle tries to resign from the police because, as he says, there seems little point in trying to enforce the law during time of war.
One of the points of instituting a state of endless war seems to be to inflate the lawless bubble invented by the espionage types to encompass all of society.

Of course, not everybody gets to behave that way. Only the powerful.

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...is filled with lies, fabrications, and FBI-type revisions. Those lies attempt to pull the DNC emails into Russia's hands. There are many other points of direct misinformation, as well, that attempt to build a case for Mueller that simply is not there in reality. Important events have been scrubbed.

A credible timeline of events can be found here:

https://medium.com/@Brian_Whit/the-george-papadopoulos-file-a-timeline-5c699c3aae4b

But, there's something missing in all this reportage I should chase down. Remember when an Austrailian official contacted the FBI to blow the whistle on Papadopoulos after a drunken cocktail hour they shared in London? That now has been scrubbed from history. It came from lies spewed from the NYT, when people were finally catching on to the FISA warrants, to cover for the wiretapping that was already going on. That's the only time dirt on Hillary has ever been tied to Papadopoulos. The only "witness." Now, it's like it never happened.

Thanks for posting, Amanda.

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Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud, who has gained international notoriety for allegedly being the person who connected the Trump campaign to the Russians looking to derail Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign....

There is nothing out there that has ever suggested a motive like "derailing Hillary." The idea is absurd on the face of it. This is new disinformation.

If you read the real timeline, you'll see that Papadopoulos was obsessed with getting a meeting together between Russia and Trump for the purpose of peaceful relations in the future. And, cui bono?, also to make his first big score on the geopolitical stage.

Nobody cared about Hillary.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Mifsud was a US asset. The girl he introduced Papadopoulos to was an obvious set-up — but almost too low-level to be bothered with. This whole charade is not about Russia. It's about entrapment.

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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Mifsud was a US asset. Or Dem/Steele hireling.

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that Russia had Hillary's emails, IIRC. Then Papadopoulos met with an ambassador to relay the information him.

Russia Gate has so many threads in that pulling on one or two will see the whole thing unravel. Which is what we are seeing.

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knotted, tangled thread,

Mifsud strongly denied claims that he was associated with Russian intelligence, telling Italian newspaper Repubblica that he was a member of the European Council on Foreign Relations and the Clinton Foundation, adding that his political outlook was “left-leaning.” Last month, Slate reported Mifsud had ‘disappeared’, as did some of the other figures linking the UK to the Trump-Russia scandal. This aspect will be discussed in more detail below.

Mifsud’s alleged links to Russian intelligence are summarily debunked by his close working relationship with Claire Smith, a major figure in the upper echelons of British intelligence. A number of Twitter users recently observed that Joseph Mifsud had been photographed standing next to Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee at Mifsud’s LINK campus in Rome. Newsmax and Buzzfeed later reported that the professor’s name and biography had been removed from the campus’ website, writing that the mysterious removal took place after Mifsud had served the institution for “years.”

WikiLeaks Editor-in-Chief Julian Assange likewise noted the connection between Mifsud and Smith in a Twitter thread, additionally pointing out his connections with Saudi intelligence: “[Mifsud] and Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee and eight-year member of the UK Security Vetting panel both trained Italian security services at the Link University in Rome and appear to both be present in this [photo].”

The photograph in question originated on Geodiplomatics.com, where it specified that Joseph Mifsud is indeed standing next to Claire Smith, who was attending a: “…Training program on International Security which was organised by Link Campus University and London Academy of Diplomacy.” The event is listed as taking place in October, 2012. This is highly significant for a number of reasons.

First, the training program Smith attended with high-ranking members of the Italian military was organized by the London Academy of Diplomacy, where Joseph Mifsud served as Director, as noted by The Washington Post. That Claire Smith was training military and law enforcement officials alongside Mifsud in 2012 during her tenure as a member of the UK Cabinet Office Security Vetting Appeals Panel, which oversees the vetting process for UK intelligence placement, strongly suggests that Mifsud has been incorrectly characterized as a Russian intelligence asset. It is extremely unlikely that Claire Smith’s role in vetting UK intelligence personnel would lead to her accidentally working with a Russian agent.

The connection between Mifsud and Smith does not end at bumped elbows in a photograph. Mifsud’s LinkedIn profile lists the University of Stirling as a place of occupation in connection with his service as Director of the London Academy of Diplomacy (LAD), where Claire Smith served as a visiting professor from 2013-2014 according to her LinkedIn profile. This adds yet another verifiable connection between a man who is at the center of already-flimsy Trump-Russia allegations and a high-ranking British intelligence figure.

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Claire Smith standing with Joseph Mifsud, on the left side of the back row.

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/04/all-russiagate-roads-lead-to-london...

Russiagate, mystery professor Joseph Mifsud speaks out: "Dirt on Hillary Clinton? Nonsense"
https://archive.is/uWdib#selection-623.1-623.356

Professor at center of Russia disclosures claimed to have met with Putin

LONDON — He was, he insisted, just an academic who had “absolutely no contact” with the Russian government. Any suggestion that he had offered to play matchmaker between the future president of the United States and the power players of the Kremlin was, he maintained dismissively, “incredible.”

Or so he told reporters.

But in private exchanges, Joseph Mifsud was proud of his alleged high-level Moscow contacts, reporting that they had extended all the way to the top: He’d had, he told a former assistant late last year, a private meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

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Mifsud told the Telegraph that he knew nothing about emails containing “dirt” on Clinton, calling the allegations upsetting. He also dismissed the disclosure that he introduced Papadopoulos to a “female Russian national,” calling the allegation a “laughingstock.”

In emails to The Post in response to questions in August, Mifsud had played down his connections to Moscow, insisting they were purely related to his work as a professor.

“I am an academic, I do not even speak Russian,” he wrote.

But the details that emerged Tuesday based on interviews with those who know him, his writings and his travels suggested a more complex picture, one that better matched the image of the professor in court files as a somewhat obscure European academic who longed for more.

http://archive.is/6sZGI

I figure if this guy is dead, he died from exhaustion. He was here, there, and everywhere. Until he wasn’t, of course.

Is there some kind of ‘list’ out there to help (or try to help) keep track of all this? Or spreadsheet? It’s getting complicated and keeping track off the continuously expanding cast of characters in this comedy/drama is becoming way too confusing for my scatty old self.

Maybe flash cards?

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‘Article’ (what do you call ‘articles on blogs?) titled

Evolution of the Russian-Collusion Narrative part 1 (I'm working on but to need to read again)

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/08/evolution-of-the-russian-collusion-...

and part 2.

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/08/evolution-of-the-russian-collusion-...

Guess who part 1 starts off with.

Mifsud’s connections: Joseph Mifsud is the Maltese professor whose meeting with Trump campaign staffer George Papadopoulos was purportedly foundational to the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation, which led to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s examination of President Trump and his associates. Mifsud has been presented as a Russian spy; in fact, his connections to British and Italian intelligence and political operatives are very strong.

I’m thinking (?) that maybe this whole craptastic psycho-drama is a mess that was hobbled together according to ‘circumstances’ and people that popped up. Or crawled out from under their rock. Face it, not even Maxwell Smart would fall for all this crap. Did they just figure “Her’s got this” so they didn’t really need to crank up any brainwave patterns as they were paying for dossiers (TCC, TES, DNC, FBI) and accusing the winner of colluding with the RUSSIANS! By hijacking the election and being subservient to Vladimir Putin. And who liked bed-wetting loose wimmens! They pulled all this to totally destroy the (**shudder**) administration of the guy that was lawfully elected as President. Crap, the only difference between a coup here and a coup in Honduras is one side had guns and won and the other side is full of arrogant, self-serving, hypocritical, felonious assholes that should be forced to walk around in clown shoes and a big red rubber nose. That honks.

Anyway, thought I’d pass these two ‘articles’ along.

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anymore. My bottom line is that Hillary got the FBI involved with investigating Trump's campaign after the Steele dossier was given to Isakoff two months before the election. And that the FBI tried to entrap them because there was no there there.

You might find this one interesting.

https://skagitrepublicans.com/KimberlyStrasselTheFusionGPSdossierwasoneo...

To that point, it is fair to ask if the entire Trump-Russia narrative-which has played a central role in our political discourse for a year, and is now resulting in a special council issuing unrelated indictments-is based on nothing more than a political smear document. Is there any reason to believe the FBI was probing a Trump-Russia angle before the dossier ? Is there any collusion allegation that doesn't come in some form from the dossier ?

The idea that the Federal government and a special council were mobilized-that American citizens were monitored and continue to be investigated-based on a campaign-funded hit document is extraordinary. Especially given that to this day no one has publicly produced a single piece of evidence to support any of the dossier's substantive allegations about Trump team members.

So yes, Mrs. Clinton, the dossier-which you paid for-was used in the election. And we are only beginning to understand in how many ways.

It's beyond all comprehension how so many people are buying this claptrap that Russia and Trump colluded to beat Hillary. This is the original charge remember? Everything that has come after that is poppycock.

BTW. Mueller can't do anything about this until after the election because of the 60 day rule.

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of Clapper saying that the whole mess took off when The Empty Suit called in the IC? I’ll try to find the clip...

Yep it WAS you

https://caucus99percent.com/comment/365596#comment-365596

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Which would make Nellie Ohr much more than just an invited panelist at a CIA Open Source symposium along with Simpson some years ago. There are reported to be about 20 people legally authorized to do unmaskings, most are at NSA, and it is unlikely Nellie Ohr is one of them.

I therefore doubt Nellie was the one doing the extracting, which has been elsewhere referenced as "unmasking" of raw NSA intercepts. In that case, the unmasking was likely carried out by someone at the NSC. Rice or Power, maybe?

Thus, could it be that the Steele Dossier was really just a cover for the dissemination from the White House basement of classified materials unmasked by the same people at the NSC who then acted unlawfully to make them public to help the Clinton campaign/DNC sink the opposition?

Yes, that would violate a whole bunch of laws -- keep in mind, two FISA warrant applications were denied, the first in June 2016 after which the Steele Memo was commissioned until one was finally granted for coverage of Page in October. So, something had to be put together earlier to evade the warrant requirements.

Indeed, this turns Russiagate completely on its head.

There may have been a criminal conspiracy, but it was by the alleged victims of the Russian plot. No wonder the pillars of Russiagate all seem to morph into something else under close scrutiny, and the alleged Russian agents -- Page and Papadoloulos, along with their first-level handler, Milfsud -- turn out to be FBI or MI-6 plants.

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N.S.A. Purges Hundreds of Millions of Call and Text Records

Maybe they were just covering their tracks.

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I'm no security clearance expert, but unless the whole system had a protocol and clearance overhaul, it's probable, imo, that Nellie could have had access.

Hell, Manning still had access to, and the ability to download, 10s of thousands (might have been 100s of thousands -- it's been too long ago for me to recall the exact number) of classified documents and audios/videos after assaulting a superior and being moved to the mail room. If you can try to beat up your superior, get arrested by MPs, get basically demoted to the mail room, and still have your clearance, something is wrong. I know we're talking military -vs- IC, but it's all still government and all still classified information. Seems to me, the only ones without access are us.

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Susan Rice revealed to House Intelligence why she unmasked identities of Trump officials

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/4/15177640/susan-rice-unmasking

Ignore the ‘reasons’ in the article. It’s pure BS.

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CNN says Rice

Washington (CNN)Former national security adviser Susan Rice privately told House investigators that she unmasked the identities of senior Trump officials to understand why the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates was in New York late last year, multiple sources told CNN.

The New York meeting preceded a separate effort by the UAE to facilitate a back-channel communication between Russia and the incoming Trump White House.

AJL says Powers

According to numerous reports, “[f]ormer United Nations Ambassador Samantha Power is believed to have made ‘hundreds’ of unmasking requests to identify individuals named in classified intelligence community reports related to Trump and his presidential transition team.”

Think about that: Hundreds of unmasking requests by Obama’s U.N. Representative. And “[o]f those [hundreds of] requests, only one offered a justification that was not boilerplate.”

Now new reports have revealed the unprecedented number of unmasking requests made by former Ambassador Power: “[She] was “unmasking” at such a rapid pace in the final months of the Obama administration that she averaged more than one request for every working day in 2016 – and even sought information in the days leading up to President Trump’s inauguration . . . .”

At the ACLJ, we have been consistently fighting the Obama-era deep state’s usurpation, unmasking, and criminal violations of the Espionage Act. Now we’re fighting to get to the bottom of yet another frightening Obama Administration scandal.

I remember reading this article when it came out. It has some good links in it.

Wife Of Fusion GPS Founder Admits Her Husband Was Behind Fake "RussiaGate" Story

Mary Jacoby, the wife of Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson, who is the man in the middle of the entire Russiagate scandal, boasted on Facebook about how ‘Russiagate,’ would not exist if it weren’t for her husband.

A Tablet investigation using public sources to trace the evolution of the now-famous dossier suggests that central elements of the Russiagate scandal emerged not from the British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s top-secret “sources” in the Russian government—which are unlikely to exist separate from Russian government control—but from a series of stories that Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby co-wrote for TheWall Street Journal well before Fusion GPS existed, and Donald Trump was simply another loud-mouthed Manhattan real estate millionaire. Understanding the origins of the “Steele dossier” is especially important because of what it tells us about the nature and the workings of what its supporters would hopefully describe as an ongoing campaign to remove the elected president of the United States.

From the Tablet article:

A Tablet investigation using public sources to trace the evolution of the now-famous dossier suggests that central elements of the Russiagate scandal emerged not from the British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s top-secret “sources” in the Russian government—which are unlikely to exist separate from Russian government control—but from a series of stories that Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby co-wrote for The Wall Street Journal well before Fusion GPS existed, and Donald Trump was simply another loud-mouthed Manhattan real estate millionaire

I think this needs more attention paid to it. I'll see what I can do. All 4 articles are worth a read. All of this information was known over a year ago, but we have been lied to so much it's hard to keep track of everything.

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@snoopydawg Isn't it exciting that Cenk et al got that juicy contract with Fusion in summer 2016? A real blow for the alternative press.

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Can you say more about it? Isikoff was who first started writing about Russia interference after he got the Steele dossier from someone at Fusion GPS. This is what the company does. It plants stories in the press to clean up their client's reputation.

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mean by saying we need a graph or a flow chart or something? In instances like this we could just edit or annotate that particular page.

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is that information keeps changing or new information comes out which shoots down stuff we knew or thought we did.

Someone posted this on the players involved in this never ending propaganda scam.

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Does this help?

Smile

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name comes up. And then you have to sort the idiots from the ‘plants’ and that’s where it can get really tricky. Soend months listening to crap about Manafort, who has nothing to do with anything, to find out that it’s Bruce Ohr who everyone should have been paying attention to. And his wife. I mean, if she really got a license to operate a short wave radio, the big question is WHY?

And now somebody’s misplaced Misfud.

These people can’t do anything right.

EDIT: lost the last part of a sentence somewhere. Had to put it back.

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@snoopydawg https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/05/fusion-picks-up-the-youn...

supposedly only a twelve-week run, but...

https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/young-turks-fusion-1201769078/

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Or like you said, Rice or Powers. I have the article bookmarked somewhere. I'll see if I can dig it up.

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What the post above suggests is "unmasking", which is the individualized review of NSA raw "take" (content) of targeted intercepts in order to identify specific US persons involved in conversations with foreign surveillance targets. That's done relatively infrequently, and requires a very high-level security clearance for access.

The stored metadata reportedly destroyed by NSA was obtained under the Stellar Wind program, which is an umbrella program, with various NSA components.

The metadata take (dotted line segments), which the Times references, would be that collected and stored under the Marina or one of the other large scale NSA Internet Section 215 "trolling net" metadata collection programs (see the illustration below):

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@leveymg my point is that while scrubbing this data, they may be also scrubbing any other evidence of wrong-doing on their part.

Who knows what they've been up to, or what their level of culpability might be?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

shocked, I say.

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that a lot of the information on Trump was received from the British government because they didn't have to get a warrant to spy on people in Trump's campaign. Which proves that the warrants were gotten illegally. People should go to prison over the things they did, but will they? There is a grand jury investigation into McCabe's lying so there's that.

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but not really. Basically a record of what was done to create Russia Gate.

The Dirty Trickery of Hillary’s Campaign is Proving to be of Mind-Boggling Magnitude, Wasserman Schultz ( Hillary’s campaign manager in 2008) had been installed as DNC head in 2009 because Hillary had secured the resignation of the previous chairman, Tim Kaine, by promising that he would be her running mate in 2016; needless to say, if Bernie or Elizabeth Warren had been the VP choice, rather than the nebbish Kaine, Hillary would have won in a walk. So Hillary’s egomaniacal drive for power came back to bite her in the ass
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Throughout the campaign, Hillary faced grave legal problems because, during her tenure as Secretary of State, she had traded access — and perhaps favorable decisions — for donations to the Clinton Foundation and large speaking fees for Bill. Her private server was a scam intended to evade FOIA requirements for government transparency, likely because she didn’t want any “smoking guns” to emerge documenting quid-pro-quos linking donations with favorable actions. The fact that this scheme inherently entailed exposing US secrets — including the identify of US intelligence assets overseas — to hacking by foreign governments, was of no concern to Hillary. When this effort to evade FOIA was confronted with a subpoena, 33 thousand subpoenaed emails were bleach-bitted out of existence — while Hillary partisans continued to smugly insist that there was no proof of quid-pro-quo.
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Comey did not have the integrity to resign in protest of executive corruption; instead, he cravenly chose to “go with the flow”. And since Comey had no reason to suspect that Hillary had functioned as a spy, it is hardly surprising that he drafted her exoneration letter months in advance of key FBI interviews. With respect to pay-for-play, the DOJ simply made it impossible for the FBI field offices looking into this to make any progress, denying them use even of the Hillary emails then in the FBI’s possession. Furthermore, the fact that this investigation was in progress was kept secret from the public. Offers of immunity were handed out like candy, but there were zero indictments. Owing to this intentional obstruction, Hillary skated throughout the campaign; if indictments had been forthcoming, Bernie would likely have been the nominee, and Trump would not now be President.

This information has been known for over a year and we are only now finding out about some of this information now..

Hillary's buttocks should be sitting inside a prison by now, but because of the criminal acts by Obama's justice department she is still walking free. But if Trump actually does want to "lock her up" he has the authority to declassify lots of the documents that have been covered up. That Loretta Lynch threatened the NY FBI office to not release the information about the emails that belong to Hillary on Weiner's laptop is just one more criminal act by the justice department. The unmasking of hundreds of people by Powers was a huge crime according to the legal system.

When the history of Obama's presidency is written he will be 'unmasked' to have been one of the most corrupt presidents in history. We already know that he is a war criminal, but what else will be discovered if an investigation into his presidency is ever done?

The people in charge of The Hague missed a golden opportunity to arrest countless war criminals who attended McCain's funeral.

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@snoopydawg

. . . if Bernie or Elizabeth Warren had been the VP choice, rather than the nebbish Kaine, Hillary would have won in a walk.

Bwahahahaa! Nope!

Kain had kneepads surgically implanted for his visits to Wall Street. Nebbish is a nice worfd for him. Skankface would have had to swallow vomit to take Bernie onto Her ticket; though Bernie proved later that he was cool with her policies and even voted to move the embassy. Goofy ass Warren is as flaky as a box of cereal, and is as gymnastic as Her, almost.

Blech!

Her should be held accountable.

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"The gatekeepers must change."
Prince

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@Deja

How many people even knew about him before she picked him? He is so bland and had as much centrist leanings as she did. Or was he picked because of his blandness? He wouldn't outshine the Queen. Isn't he strongly pro life too? One of his first acts after not becoming VP was to write the new AUMF that would give presidents the right to wage unlimited war without any oversight from congress. No sunset on wars, not that there are now, but still. Gawd. We dodged a bullet with her loss, but not much has changed.

BTW. Just saw a tweet that had a poll on who people would vote for today. Jill Stein got over 60%.

Mosking

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@snoopydawg needless to say, if Bernie or Elizabeth Warren had been the VP choice, rather than the nebbish Kaine, Hillary would have won in a walk. So Hillary’s egomaniacal drive for power came back to bite her in the ass

Don't entirely agree with this. Warren would not have done it. By the time of the convention, Bernie supporters were pretty much disgusted with her.

Yes, sadly, if Bernie had been her VP, likely a lot of people would have fallen in line, because gestures like that apparently short-circuit people's higher mental functions. What the hell good would it have done for Bernie to be in the job that John Adams famously described as the most insignificant office conceived by man? And that's assuming that the government actually works as it purports to work. At best, Sanders would have been like the VP in Dave: a boy scout figurehead running around performing ceremonial functions.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt-out light bulb.
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@snoopydawg I have a feeling that, even if Trump wants to do this, which I'm not sure he does, his life would not be long if he did. Nobody gets to put a Clinton or a Bush behind bars.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt-out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Morire de cara sol.
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Was it EDNY who had Weiner's laptop filled with over 700,000 of Hillary's emails that Loretta threatened not to release them? I've been saying that it was the NY FBI who had them, but I might be wrong. TMI to keep track of so much information. Lynch should have had nothing to do with any of the investigations into Hillary's shenanigans after her meeting with Bill on her plane during Tarmac Gate. And because of her history with the Clintons. Maybe it doesn't matter since DC is so incestous because of the revolving doors between so many government positions.

Readers are unlikely to know that the Eastern District of New York in Brooklyn is not just any United States attorney’s office. It is the office that was headed by Attorney General Loretta Lynch until President Obama elevated her to attorney general less than two years ago.

It was in the EDNY that Ms. Lynch first came to national prominence in 1999, when she was appointed U.S. attorney by President Bill Clinton — the husband of the main subject of the FBI’s investigations with whom Lynch furtively met in the back of a plane parked on an Arizona tarmac days before the announcement that Mrs. Clinton would not be indicted. Obama reappointed Lynch as the EDNY’s U.S. attorney in 2010. She was thus in charge of staffing that office for nearly six years before coming to Main Justice in Washington. That means the EDNY is full of attorneys Lynch hired and supervised.

When we learn that Clinton Foundation investigators are being denied access to patently relevant evidence by federal prosecutors in Brooklyn, those are the prosecutors — Loretta Lynch’s prosecutors — we are talking about.

Recall, moreover, that it was Lynch’s Justice Department that:

‐refused to authorize use of the grand jury to further the Clinton e-mails investigation, thus depriving the FBI of the power to compel testimony and the production of evidence by subpoena;

‐consulted closely with defense attorneys representing subjects of the investigation;

‐permitted Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson — the subordinates deputized by Mrs. Clinton to sort through her e-mails and destroy thousands of them — to represent Clinton as attorneys, despite the fact that they were subjects of the same investigation and had been granted immunity from prosecution (to say nothing of the ethical and legal prohibitions against such an arrangement);

‐drastically restricted the FBI’s questioning of Mills and other subjects of the investigation; and

‐struck the outrageous deals that gave Mills and Samuelson immunity from prosecution in exchange for providing the FBI with the laptops on which they reviewed Clinton’s four years of e-mails. That arrangement was outrageous for three reasons:

1) Mills and Samuelson should have been compelled to produce the computers by grand-jury subpoena with no immunity agreement;

2) Lynch’s Justice Department drastically restricted the FBI’s authority to examine the computers; and

3) Lynch’s Justice Department agreed that the FBI would destroy the computers following its very limited examination

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As I have detailed, it was already clear that Lynch’s Justice Department was stunningly derelict in hamstringing the bureau’s e-mails investigation. But now that we know the FBI was simultaneously investigating the Clinton Foundation yet being denied access to the Clinton e-mails, the dereliction appears unconscionable.

The biggest understatement ever:

Were it not for the Clinton Foundation, there probably would not be a Clinton e-mail scandal.

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@snoopydawg This is not dereliction of duty. It is complicity.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt-out light bulb.
--strollingone

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

It talks about how proving intent is irrelevant. Comey rewrote the law.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hilla...

And this one

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/not-comeys-decision-exonerate-hill...

In his April 10 comments, Obama made the obvious explicit: He did not want the certain Democratic nominee, the candidate he was backing to succeed him, to be indicted. Conveniently, his remarks (inevitably echoed by Comey) did not mention that an intent to endanger national security was not an element of the criminal offenses Clinton was suspected of committing – in classic Obama fashion, he was urging her innocence of a strawman crime while dodging any discussion of the crimes she had actually committed.

As we also now know – but as Obama knew at the time – the president himself had communicated with Clinton over her non-secure, private communications system, using an alias. The Obama administration refused to disclose these several e-mail exchanges because they undoubtedly involve classified conversations between the president and his secretary of state. It would not have been possible to prosecute Mrs. Clinton for mishandling classified information without its being clear that President Obama had engaged in the same conduct. The administration was never, ever going to allow that to happen.

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@snoopydawg It's a scandal to expose highly classified information to the world. No, it's a *crime* to do so, as many have said, Clinton Foundation or no Clinton Foundation.

The double standard in our security state is beyond disgusting. Some navy guy has to wear a bracelet on his ankle for years because he took a picture of the inside of his sub for his family (which was stupid, granted), but Clinton exposing state secrets for, what was it, two months, on a server that didn't even have a password?

How much digital skill do you even have to have to break into something that's not...well, I was gonna say "not locked," but the truth is more like there isn't even a door on the hinges, just a big open hole that anybody can walk through.

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The part of John Edwards could easily be played by a burnt-out light bulb.
--strollingone

The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

@snoopydawg Hardly. It was deliberate criminality and corruption.

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dfarrah