(Update 2 - MISFUD LIVES!): DNC: Papadopoulos's UK contact may be dead
You know, I have been selling the DNC short. They’re crazier than I ever imagined they could be. And what happens if the guy shows up? They’ll have to grease his doorknobs with some Novichok juice I guess.
But just in case he is MIA, they need to check and see what The Clinton Creature’s been up to. Generally she’s the common thread between a political scandal and a dead body, right?
DNC: Papadopoulos's UK contact may be dead
The Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Friday raised the prospect that the London-based professor who told former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton may be dead.
DNC lawyers wrote in court filings Friday that Joseph Mifsud, who spoke to Papadopoulos during the 2016 presidential election, "is missing and may be deceased," Bloomberg News reported. The lawyers did not elaborate.
The DNC stood by its claim in a statement to The Hill on Friday. The committee indicated that an investigator had been used to find Mifsud, who had disappeared for months, and was told the Maltese professor may be dead.
"The DNC's counsel has attempted to serve Mifsud for months and has been unable to locate or contact him. In addition, public reports have said he has disappeared and hasn't been seen for months," DNC spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/405672-dnc-lawyers-papadopou...
The possibilities for really bad drama and/or high camp comedy here are endless. How’s Booby going to pin this on some poor low hanging fruit?
I hope there are future episodes coming because I want to see what happens if he shows up. Or even better yet, if he IS defunct. Which will open the door to how did they know?
UPDATE:
Professor Joe Mifsud: a ‘ghost’ on the run from the Americans, Russians and Italians
Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud, who has gained international notoriety for allegedly being the person who connected the Trump campaign to the Russians looking to derail Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, is not only on the run from the Americans, Russians and the press, but also from the Italian judicial authorities, who have been unable to track down the wayward academic.
This week, in fact, Mifsud was a no-show in the courts of Palermo, where he was to answer to charges, along with two others, of having unjustifiably inflated salaries at a university consortium in Agrigento, Sicily, which he presided almost a decade ago.
At a hearing in Palermo, Italy, Joseph Mifsud was described as “a ghost” after neither he nor his lawyers turned up in court on Wednesday.
Sicilian prosecutors described Mifsud as a “peculiar subject” and said that all attempts to reach and notify the professor about the hearing had proved futile.
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The Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, in their report on Russia’s attempted interference in the election released in April, described Mifsud as being “Kremlin-linked”.
However, Mifsud also had Western ties at academic institutions like the Link Campus University in Rome, the University of Stirling in Scotland, the London Academy of Diplomacy and the London Centre for International Law Practice.
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These new questions about Mifsud come as Trump draws attention to reports that the FBI used another individual as a confidential informant in connection with the Russia case. The informant met several campaign officials, including Papadopoulos, during the 2016 race.
http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2018-07-14/local-news/Professor-J...
SECOND UPDATE:
Shadowy link man between Trump campaign and Russia is NOT dead but is living under a 'mystery identity' claims lawyer who has advised him
The Democratic National Committee, in legal papers on Friday, said Mifsud could be dead.
But a Swiss-German lawyer who is a close friend and adviser of Mifsud's told The Daily Caller the allegation 'nonsense.'
“I got it from really good sources. They say that he is alive, that he has another identity, and that he is staying somewhere, at a nice place,' Stephan Roh told the news website.
'I just this morning got a message, indirectly, that he is alive and that they have provided him with another identity,' added Roh, who did not describe his sources.
Roh, who co-owns Link Campus University in Rome, where Mifsud once taught, said Mifsud has denied to him directly that he spoke with Papadopoulos about the Clinton emails.
He also said he was detained at JFK International Airport in New York in October 2017 and questioned by the FBI about his relationship with Mifsud.
Mifsud has not been seen or heard from since November 2017, just after special counsel Robert Mueller revealed that Papadopoulos had pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the professor.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6153059/Shadowy-link-man-Trump-...
Who’s hiding him? And from who? Mueller’s was the last guy to see him (that we know of). And did he or did he NOT bring up Slithery’s emails?
This just keeps getting more interesting by the day.
Comments
Sundance over at Conservative Treehouse
has an interesting piece up that's worth a read.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Interesting is an understatement!
This puts some meat on the bones of gulfgal’s essay interpreting the meaning of some very interesting video from McStain’s funeral. The wheels of the DNC bus seem to just about ready to fall off.
George Webb has also been all over the Ohrs over the past few days. The thousands of sealed warrants rumored to be waiting for a mass extinction event may be more than just wishful thinking.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Here's the kicker:
Nellie et al. ran unauthorized searches through the security databases and gave the results to foreign agent Steele to pretend it was his own research.
How many serious crimes in just that one sentence?
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Nellie Ohr's HAM radio license
What is the significance of the license? I read the post, and all the comments on the first page. There's a really long comment by "CET" that rambles on about it, but I'm not thinking too clearly today. What is the significance?
Another way of communicating I suppose n/t
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I realize that this is not the most startling fact
in the scenario, but, am I the only one who did not know that the FBI has an office in Rome?
On a related note, isn't it past time for the FBI, the CIA and Homeland Security to merge? Not only is all the duplication among them costly, but the artificial divisions and rivalries among them are dangerous.
FBI is not supposed to operate outside our borders
and CIA is not supposed to operate inside our borders.
"Homeland Security" Sounds like SS to me.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
‘Homeland Security’ is now in charge
of our elections. THAT is not a good thing.
The Department of Duct Tape and Plastic running our elections is very unsettling to me.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Hence my prior post.
Whatever Homeland Security sounds like, we have been "blessed" with it. One of its functions was supposedly to ensure one central place for intel, whether from the FBI, the CIA or Homeland Security itself, lack of communication between our intel agencies supposedly having been one of the reasons we were subjected to 911. Of course, that could also have been accomplished without HS, if they had simply combined the CIA and the FBI back then, instead of creating a new bureaucracy.
@HenryAWallace I'm most
Been looking for a clip of that part of Foyle's War where Foyle tries to resign from the police because, as he says, there seems little point in trying to enforce the law during time of war.
One of the points of instituting a state of endless war seems to be to inflate the lawless bubble invented by the espionage types to encompass all of society.
Of course, not everybody gets to behave that way. Only the powerful.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
That Hill article that you are citing
...is filled with lies, fabrications, and FBI-type revisions. Those lies attempt to pull the DNC emails into Russia's hands. There are many other points of direct misinformation, as well, that attempt to build a case for Mueller that simply is not there in reality. Important events have been scrubbed.
A credible timeline of events can be found here:
https://medium.com/@Brian_Whit/the-george-papadopoulos-file-a-timeline-5c699c3aae4b
But, there's something missing in all this reportage I should chase down. Remember when an Austrailian official contacted the FBI to blow the whistle on Papadopoulos after a drunken cocktail hour they shared in London? That now has been scrubbed from history. It came from lies spewed from the NYT, when people were finally catching on to the FISA warrants, to cover for the wiretapping that was already going on. That's the only time dirt on Hillary has ever been tied to Papadopoulos. The only "witness." Now, it's like it never happened.
Thanks for posting, Amanda.
Populations don’t like wars. They have to be lied into it.
That means we can be “truthed” into peace. — Julian Assange
My take on your update:
There is nothing out there that has ever suggested a motive like "derailing Hillary." The idea is absurd on the face of it. This is new disinformation.
If you read the real timeline, you'll see that Papadopoulos was obsessed with getting a meeting together between Russia and Trump for the purpose of peaceful relations in the future. And, cui bono?, also to make his first big score on the geopolitical stage.
Nobody cared about Hillary.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Mifsud was a US asset. The girl he introduced Papadopoulos to was an obvious set-up — but almost too low-level to be bothered with. This whole charade is not about Russia. It's about entrapment.
Populations don’t like wars. They have to be lied into it.
That means we can be “truthed” into peace. — Julian Assange
My thoughts exactly:
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Mifsud was a US asset. Or Dem/Steele hireling.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Milfud was used by the FBI to tell Papadopoulos
that Russia had Hillary's emails, IIRC. Then Papadopoulos met with an ambassador to relay the information him.
Russia Gate has so many threads in that pulling on one or two will see the whole thing unravel. Which is what we are seeing.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
So many threads is right! It’s a big ball of
knotted, tangled thread,
I figure if this guy is dead, he died from exhaustion. He was here, there, and everywhere. Until he wasn’t, of course.
Is there some kind of ‘list’ out there to help (or try to help) keep track of all this? Or spreadsheet? It’s getting complicated and keeping track off the continuously expanding cast of characters in this comedy/drama is becoming way too confusing for my scatty old self.
Maybe flash cards?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Hey there. I’m reading this 2-part
‘Article’ (what do you call ‘articles on blogs?) titled
Evolution of the Russian-Collusion Narrative part 1 (I'm working on but to need to read again)
https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/08/evolution-of-the-russian-collusion-...
and part 2.
https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/08/evolution-of-the-russian-collusion-...
Guess who part 1 starts off with.
I’m thinking (?) that maybe this whole craptastic psycho-drama is a mess that was hobbled together according to ‘circumstances’ and people that popped up. Or crawled out from under their rock. Face it, not even Maxwell Smart would fall for all this crap. Did they just figure “Her’s got this” so they didn’t really need to crank up any brainwave patterns as they were paying for dossiers (TCC, TES, DNC, FBI) and accusing the winner of colluding with the RUSSIANS! By hijacking the election and being subservient to Vladimir Putin. And who liked bed-wetting loose wimmens! They pulled all this to totally destroy the (**shudder**) administration of the guy that was lawfully elected as President. Crap, the only difference between a coup here and a coup in Honduras is one side had guns and won and the other side is full of arrogant, self-serving, hypocritical, felonious assholes that should be forced to walk around in clown shoes and a big red rubber nose. That honks.
Anyway, thought I’d pass these two ‘articles’ along.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
I don't know how anyone can keep all the facts straight
anymore. My bottom line is that Hillary got the FBI involved with investigating Trump's campaign after the Steele dossier was given to Isakoff two months before the election. And that the FBI tried to entrap them because there was no there there.
You might find this one interesting.
https://skagitrepublicans.com/KimberlyStrasselTheFusionGPSdossierwasoneo...
It's beyond all comprehension how so many people are buying this claptrap that Russia and Trump colluded to beat Hillary. This is the original charge remember? Everything that has come after that is poppycock.
BTW. Mueller can't do anything about this until after the election because of the 60 day rule.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Weren’t you the person who posted the clip
of Clapper saying that the whole mess took off when The Empty Suit called in the IC? I’ll try to find the clip...
Yep it WAS you
https://caucus99percent.com/comment/365596#comment-365596
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
If true, Nellie must have an active TS-SCI or higher clearance
Which would make Nellie Ohr much more than just an invited panelist at a CIA Open Source symposium along with Simpson some years ago. There are reported to be about 20 people legally authorized to do unmaskings, most are at NSA, and it is unlikely Nellie Ohr is one of them.
I therefore doubt Nellie was the one doing the extracting, which has been elsewhere referenced as "unmasking" of raw NSA intercepts. In that case, the unmasking was likely carried out by someone at the NSC. Rice or Power, maybe?
Thus, could it be that the Steele Dossier was really just a cover for the dissemination from the White House basement of classified materials unmasked by the same people at the NSC who then acted unlawfully to make them public to help the Clinton campaign/DNC sink the opposition?
Yes, that would violate a whole bunch of laws -- keep in mind, two FISA warrant applications were denied, the first in June 2016 after which the Steele Memo was commissioned until one was finally granted for coverage of Page in October. So, something had to be put together earlier to evade the warrant requirements.
Indeed, this turns Russiagate completely on its head.
There may have been a criminal conspiracy, but it was by the alleged victims of the Russian plot. No wonder the pillars of Russiagate all seem to morph into something else under close scrutiny, and the alleged Russian agents -- Page and Papadoloulos, along with their first-level handler, Milfsud -- turn out to be FBI or MI-6 plants.
Remember this?
N.S.A. Purges Hundreds of Millions of Call and Text Records
Maybe they were just covering their tracks.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I suppose, but remember Manning?
I'm no security clearance expert, but unless the whole system had a protocol and clearance overhaul, it's probable, imo, that Nellie could have had access.
Hell, Manning still had access to, and the ability to download, 10s of thousands (might have been 100s of thousands -- it's been too long ago for me to recall the exact number) of classified documents and audios/videos after assaulting a superior and being moved to the mail room. If you can try to beat up your superior, get arrested by MPs, get basically demoted to the mail room, and still have your clearance, something is wrong. I know we're talking military -vs- IC, but it's all still government and all still classified information. Seems to me, the only ones without access are us.
It was Rice.
Ignore the ‘reasons’ in the article. It’s pure BS.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Both Rice and Powers it looks like did the unmasking
CNN says Rice
AJL says Powers
I remember reading this article when it came out. It has some good links in it.
Wife Of Fusion GPS Founder Admits Her Husband Was Behind Fake "RussiaGate" Story
From the Tablet article:
I think this needs more attention paid to it. I'll see what I can do. All 4 articles are worth a read. All of this information was known over a year ago, but we have been lied to so much it's hard to keep track of everything.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
@snoopydawg Isn't it exciting
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I didn't know about that
Can you say more about it? Isikoff was who first started writing about Russia interference after he got the Steele dossier from someone at Fusion GPS. This is what the company does. It plants stories in the press to clean up their client's reputation.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
I didn’t know about it either. See what I
mean by saying we need a graph or a flow chart or something? In instances like this we could just edit or annotate that particular page.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
What makes a timeline difficult to do
is that information keeps changing or new information comes out which shoots down stuff we knew or thought we did.
Someone posted this on the players involved in this never ending propaganda scam.
Does this help?
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
I saw that. Everything ‘helps’ until the next
name comes up. And then you have to sort the idiots from the ‘plants’ and that’s where it can get really tricky. Soend months listening to crap about Manafort, who has nothing to do with anything, to find out that it’s Bruce Ohr who everyone should have been paying attention to. And his wife. I mean, if she really got a license to operate a short wave radio, the big question is WHY?
And now somebody’s misplaced Misfud.
These people can’t do anything right.
EDIT: lost the last part of a sentence somewhere. Had to put it back.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
@snoopydawg https://www
https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/05/fusion-picks-up-the-youn...
supposedly only a twelve-week run, but...
https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/young-turks-fusion-1201769078/
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I believe that it was Valerie Jarret who did the unmasking
Or like you said, Rice or Powers. I have the article bookmarked somewhere. I'll see if I can dig it up.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
That NYT article dealt w/Stellar Wind collections.
What the post above suggests is "unmasking", which is the individualized review of NSA raw "take" (content) of targeted intercepts in order to identify specific US persons involved in conversations with foreign surveillance targets. That's done relatively infrequently, and requires a very high-level security clearance for access.
The stored metadata reportedly destroyed by NSA was obtained under the Stellar Wind program, which is an umbrella program, with various NSA components.
The metadata take (dotted line segments), which the Times references, would be that collected and stored under the Marina or one of the other large scale NSA Internet Section 215 "trolling net" metadata collection programs (see the illustration below):
Sure,
Who knows what they've been up to, or what their level of culpability might be?
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Destruction of evidence, by our trusted IC agencies? Shocked,
shocked, I say.
They got a FISA warrant to also hide the fact
that a lot of the information on Trump was received from the British government because they didn't have to get a warrant to spy on people in Trump's campaign. Which proves that the warrants were gotten illegally. People should go to prison over the things they did, but will they? There is a grand jury investigation into McCabe's lying so there's that.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Off topic sorta
but not really. Basically a record of what was done to create Russia Gate.
This information has been known for over a year and we are only now finding out about some of this information now..
Hillary's buttocks should be sitting inside a prison by now, but because of the criminal acts by Obama's justice department she is still walking free. But if Trump actually does want to "lock her up" he has the authority to declassify lots of the documents that have been covered up. That Loretta Lynch threatened the NY FBI office to not release the information about the emails that belong to Hillary on Weiner's laptop is just one more criminal act by the justice department. The unmasking of hundreds of people by Powers was a huge crime according to the legal system.
When the history of Obama's presidency is written he will be 'unmasked' to have been one of the most corrupt presidents in history. We already know that he is a war criminal, but what else will be discovered if an investigation into his presidency is ever done?
The people in charge of The Hague missed a golden opportunity to arrest countless war criminals who attended McCain's funeral.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
No, should have been executed, according to our constitution.
Bwahahahaa! Nope!
Kain had kneepads surgically implanted for his visits to Wall Street. Nebbish is a nice worfd for him. Skankface would have had to swallow vomit to take Bernie onto Her ticket; though Bernie proved later that he was cool with her policies and even voted to move the embassy. Goofy ass Warren is as flaky as a box of cereal, and is as gymnastic as Her, almost.
Blech!
Her should be held accountable.
Kaine was really a stupid pick for VP
How many people even knew about him before she picked him? He is so bland and had as much centrist leanings as she did. Or was he picked because of his blandness? He wouldn't outshine the Queen. Isn't he strongly pro life too? One of his first acts after not becoming VP was to write the new AUMF that would give presidents the right to wage unlimited war without any oversight from congress. No sunset on wars, not that there are now, but still. Gawd. We dodged a bullet with her loss, but not much has changed.
BTW. Just saw a tweet that had a poll on who people would vote for today. Jill Stein got over 60%.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
@snoopydawg needless to say, if
Don't entirely agree with this. Warren would not have done it. By the time of the convention, Bernie supporters were pretty much disgusted with her.
Yes, sadly, if Bernie had been her VP, likely a lot of people would have fallen in line, because gestures like that apparently short-circuit people's higher mental functions. What the hell good would it have done for Bernie to be in the job that John Adams famously described as the most insignificant office conceived by man? And that's assuming that the government actually works as it purports to work. At best, Sanders would have been like the VP in Dave: a boy scout figurehead running around performing ceremonial functions.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@snoopydawg I have a feeling that,
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Whoa! Look at Lynch's history
Was it EDNY who had Weiner's laptop filled with over 700,000 of Hillary's emails that Loretta threatened not to release them? I've been saying that it was the NY FBI who had them, but I might be wrong. TMI to keep track of so much information. Lynch should have had nothing to do with any of the investigations into Hillary's shenanigans after her meeting with Bill on her plane during Tarmac Gate. And because of her history with the Clintons. Maybe it doesn't matter since DC is so incestous because of the revolving doors between so many government positions.
The biggest understatement ever:
Were it not for the Clinton Foundation, there probably would not be a Clinton e-mail scandal.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
@snoopydawg This is not dereliction
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You might enjoy this article
It talks about how proving intent is irrelevant. Comey rewrote the law.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hilla...
And this one
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/not-comeys-decision-exonerate-hill...
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
@snoopydawg It's a scandal to expose
The double standard in our security state is beyond disgusting. Some navy guy has to wear a bracelet on his ankle for years because he took a picture of the inside of his sub for his family (which was stupid, granted), but Clinton exposing state secrets for, what was it, two months, on a server that didn't even have a password?
How much digital skill do you even have to have to break into something that's not...well, I was gonna say "not locked," but the truth is more like there isn't even a door on the hinges, just a big open hole that anybody can walk through.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Stunningly derelect?
dfarrah