Kos holds coronation on schedule, bannings commence
Along with the vast majority of the MSM, Kos has declared the Democratic primaries "over" (with 25 states, including New York and California, yet to vote) and Hillary Clinton the unofficial winner. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/16/1502026/-The-primaries-might-go...
He has been claiming he wants to restrain the lynch mobs, but doesn't seem to realize that Gort is the master (reference to the original story that became The Day The Earth Stood Still) and that the extremists have taken over his party.
We are already seeing people show up here (ChemBob, e.g) who have been banhammered and they don't even know why. We can guess, though, that Gort and the extremists interpret any criticism of Hillary Clinton as "malicious" and any suggestion that she might not win the primary, or the general election, as high treason.
Welcome all refugees - there are no banhammers here, and no flag-throwing cliques. Hope you enjoy the relative peace and quiet. (I sure do!)
Comments
chembob?
Wow. I think the site has gone Brietbart.
I am only reading a few writers, only commenting here and there, and trying to rec comments carefully.
If I get banned, it isn't a huge deal except I get cool emails and can read articles on my phone while sitting in airports.
Other than that, I am here.
Gladly.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
chembob's comment
he called her a liar, and some other stuff - I copied his comment in his essay here. Surprised he was surprised he got banned.
Telling the truth IS "malicious criticism"
We know she lies whenever she thinks it will win her a scintilla of political advantage - which is most of the time. This makes her rather worse than the average politician, because most of them will stop to calculate whether the few votes they would gain are worth the many they would lose. She doesn't seem able to stop and make those calculations - it's just zippp, out of her mouth like toads. (See fairy tale, "Toads and Diamonds". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamonds_and_Toads)
If the primary goes the way they have declared, they are in for a terrible shock in the general. (Possibly a lot sooner, if both parties turn to "general campaigning" before their candidates are officially chosen.)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I make no bones about my malice towards HRC.
She's worked very hard, for a very long time, to earn it.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
"scintilla" just made my evening (I'm easy)
Thank you.
What a relief to be in a place where I'm not told that I've been conditioned to dislike and distrust Hillary Clinton by RW invective--the evil genius of Karl Rove. Ugh. The party and the country may have to hit bottom before better things are possible.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
That is what I have been thinking for some time...
But I hesitate only to worry about all of the people it would hurt... innocent people.
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First Nations News
Yes, I understand
It's always the innocent and most vulnerable who are hurt first and the most.
When I think about my deep moral--yes, moral--objections to voting for HRC for any position of power and influence, I think about the "least among us" and my privilege and all those things. And I still come out believing that incrementalism will only slightly delay the inevitable and necessary process of collapse and rebuilding. If we had not bailed out the banks but jailed the banksters and intervened for an orderly breakup, the pain would have been large and swift, but we'd have removed that risk and recovered by now. (See, e.g., Iceland.) Instead, we're massively more vulnerable with even more exotic investment mechanisms. It's the bandaid analogy: peel it off sloooowly with less but more prolonged pain, or just let it rip and be done.
The size of the global derivatives bubble hanging over the global economy hits a new high: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-size-of-the-derivatives-bubble-hanging-...
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Can we take out an ad and put it in Markos' stream?
"Caucus99percent -- where the primaries are not over!"
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
Omg
This is so funny, thank you.
Brilliant
that would be a BOOM!
PS: One way to advertise this site- We should cross-cross post the diaries, links to both. I'm starting to do that in my infant diary career.
Progressive to the bone.
How do you share these diaries on FB?
What about Twitter?
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho
The old fashioned way:
Cut and paste URL
Flute of champaign raised in
Flute of champaign raised in salute.
I know,chemBob, right?!? Makes you wonder just what is safe there anymore.
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
There are ways to find out....
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"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
-- John Lennon
that oil of cloves
shit doesn't work.
Dentists wanted everyone connected with that movie put in a Dungeon.
Amen
I come here to start and finish my days, coffee in hand, and a smile on my face. Piece of mind is priceless.
Progressive to the bone.
Can we not publicize DK posts here
unless its a crosspost?
I don't know...
If you are referencing a piece of work from there and would like to have a discussion about it, I see no issue.
However I would like to hear an author's point-of-view as well, and not just a drive-by post self-promoting. You know, start the discussion, or use it as a reference point to make a further point. Add some meat.
There's a line in there somewhere...
Progressive to the bone.
Best to go cold turkey
and move on. this is a cool place and getting better every day.
Oh, yeah, it's great here.
I feel so free!! I might peek at the GOS occasionally, just as I occasionally peek at Redstate. If anything, the lockstep mentality at DK is even worse than a right wing site. Thought police EVERYWHERE.
Twain Disciple
Been weaning myself, but a diary discussing HRC's possible VP
tonight helped with that process. Just the headline (never read those things). New goal: cut down to a morning look at BNR, Women for Bernie, and the Daily Bucket--read, rec as appropriate, and depart for friendlier ports.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Bill Clinton quote summarizes banhammer effect
The Democratic Party has been the party of the Clintons for years. The Clintons are infamous for carrying grudges and for retaliation. The behavior of some (not all) of Clinton's fans appears to mirror that of their candidate and the tactics of the Clinton machine. Well-known quote from Bill Clinton:
“Your opponent can't talk when your fist is in his mouth.” http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB117226320515017638
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Wow! No wonder Clinton is Markos's hero.
Twain Disciple
can't wait for his next book,
Staffing the Gates
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
When heretics
Start being burned, you begin to wonder about the truth of the message.
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
So she thinks the primary race is over?
Hmmm....interesting as MSM,DKos,and Hillary all made the decision to No longer focus on the primaries after the 15th. Trying to make Bernie a non entity again. This is so wrong. This truly angers me.
I just threw out a few nasty comments about HRC over on DKos
Thank goodness for this place, as I'm assuming I'll be hide rated out of existence at any moment!
I understand that KOS wants to win this election at any cost.... part of that cost being electing a republican who has a D in front of their name.... but I just can't hold my tongue when it comes to that woman. She isn't a liberal and I'll be goddamned if I'm going to pretend like I like her and support her. I DON'T!
The purely political
Nature of that woman is odious. After listening to her talk I need to take a shower, the political slime that oozes from her is so obvious, she holds every position on every issue. Cannot trust that woman.
If they construct a pro-Hillary bubble
If they construct a pro-Hillary bubble over there, that's not what I would call smart politics. Hillary has faced the "vast right-wing conspiracy" before, but never in the context of a national election. The Tea-GOP has been getting ready to tear her apart for twenty years. And if she had to face Trump - well, is there anything he wouldn't dare to say?
That said, I am not at all invested in making Hillary a better candidate. I want my next President to be Bernie Sanders.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Bigger problem with a Hillary
Bigger problem with a Hillary bubble. There is a large contingent now to her left who are not happy. She can ignore us at her own peril.
War, War Never Changes - Fallout Series
Sadly, *we* are the imperiled ones.
The worst thing that happens to HRC is that she loses, and spends the next twenty years enjoying her 150 megabucks.
It puzzles me, a lot, that anybody with less than six figures in the bank donates cash to the Clinton campaign. Even if she were my choice, she'd have to spend herself down by about 149 million before she'd get a nickel from me.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
See Trump's just-released attack ad on Clinton?
Trump goes Godzilla on Scooby Doo Clinton. It's vicious and shameless and he's just getting started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4h6tOgVgc
Meanwhile, from Kossacks for Reddit subthread: Judicial Watch Submits Proposed Witness List, Discovery Plan to Federal Court in Clinton email Matter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4h6tOgVgc) The timing of how this moves along could become interesting. No way to know whether the process will give the electorate any answers before the convention.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
That ad was pretty viscious!
I wonder if he had attack ads made for both Bernie and Hillary? And how come there was no "I'm Donald Trump and I approve of this ad" message, was it not a campaign ad?
Hotel California
Just got around to deleting my DK account & learned that although I was allowed to check in I can never check out.
WTF? Is this real? Does anyone know where the escape button is over there?
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. ~ Frank Zappa
No Delete Profile
Nope, we can not delete our accounts at DKos. We can only log out. I have never liked that we could not delete. Allows Kos to paid the number of subscribers.
War, War Never Changes - Fallout Series
If you die,
can your executor get you deleted? Does anyone know?
I changed my DK profile to absolute gibberish before I left :-)
Resilience: practical action to improve things we can control.
3D+: developing language for postmodern spirituality.
The single most legendary diary in all the
history of dailyKos was ErrinF's classic "Delete My Fucking Account, Kos".
Suffice to say, you really don't want to go there ... just move on. Further up, and further in.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Wow that was classic. Thumbs up funny ErrinF!
Thursday Aug 03, 2006 · 2:15 PM PDT
todd rundgren - property
Peace
banning et al
It is all about making money for number one. No one is so blind as to see that restricting a clear debate about the next President serves any use except that of those who profit from censorship, which is always those with capital.
No website is going to influence the vast majority of the over-thirty voting public. Every blogger ought to know this.
One hundred forty characters being the profound literature of our age, no one who is not in a small minority of the US population will bother reading blogs. They will still listen to the mass media first and foremost, seeking to make an honest, informed decision does not challenge the convenience of their lifestyle, does not costs them much. It is cheap and it is most everyone.
This media, which controls not only political opinion, but the way we dress, how we speak, our opinions. It limits us. Not with political bias, but with a bias much more insidious, much more far-reaching: the bias of categories of self-indoctrination. That is the great failure of democracy: to prevent the indoctrination of the self. The US media are masters of this.
Others have expressed this opinion but I shall say it again: the owners of some sites are the quintessential US mentality: the "self-made persons," the "entrepreneurs." In other words, the bourgeoisie. In other words, the disposable cogs of the larger apparatus of controlling wealth, thought, education, culture.
Class struggle is the defining force that shapes all modern societies. For some this means struggling out of a class into another, for others it means struggling to end the control of one class over another. Some choose the former, others the latter.
Make no mistake: it is a bait-and-switch, one pretends to build a movement which reflects the neglected interests of the disestablished classes, and then, when trust has been won, abandons them and chooses self-aggrandizement.
It is the dream of the very small person, and the nightmare for everyone else who is waiting for some savior.
Unlike some, I think this pattern remains in place indefinitely. There is no "absolute trajectory" of human history. It continues until there is a way to stop it, and the means to stop it, and the will to stop it.
Peace and love be upon you, reader.
Aaaaah
What a breath of fresh air here. Looking forward to great conversations here without the fucking trolls dumbing down the conversation.
DKOS Censorship
Markos' actions have never surprised me. When I signed on, 8 years ago, I read his Bio. Immediately noted that he was a reformed former Repukelican. Why? Cos the open minded Army people he served with were Democrats. He was tired of being ridiculed cos of his central American heritage. His political beliefs were never true hardcore lefty Liberal/Progressive. He is a moderate Republican/Democrat. He's got plenty of company! They are not called 'Republican Lite' for nothing!
I read LieparDestin's excellent BNR. That's where I comment. I don't waste my time reading any Turd Way crap. Like everyone else on here, I can smell/spot that stink a mile away. If Markos' hit squad bans me, fine. I've already got the BNR bookmarked and plenty of other sites to visit.
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I have become used to voting for someone and THEN
becoming disillusioned and disappointed and disgusted. But to reverse the process? I'm not sure I'm up to it.
It was interesting that Kos himself said her selling points were "She's not Trump" and Supreme Court. Talk about damning with faint praise!
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
A Tweet that went out in February -
I am not on Twitter, but someone shared it with me and it resonated, from a fellow named Ivan Hernandez -
I'm proBernie but would vote Hillary as I am a one issue voter and that issue is not opening the seventh seal and ushering in the apocalypse. (2/2/16, 12:13 AM)