Let Me Reiterate
Submitted by JtC on Tue, 06/05/2018 - 3:16pm
I'll say it again and in plain English.
The day this site becomes a unilateral echo chamber for any political faction is the day this site gets closed down. Period.
What is so hard to understand about c99p being nonpartisan. It is open to everyone, as long as they are civil to other members. Become uncivil and you'll be called out. Plain and simple. I'll repeat that, become uncivil and you will be called out. Is that too much to ask?
There are no winners or losers on this board.
I'm going to go out to my garden, dig a deep hole and bury myself up to my neck.
"And you may ask yourself, well
How did I get here?"
"Same as it ever was"
"Same as it ever was"
"Same. as. it. ever. was."
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Okay, sounds good.
Give me a few days and I'll PM you and maybe we can brainstorm how to organize this? No need to worry. We can take this in baby steps. No huge commitments needed. Just a little flexibility and willingness.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
AGREED.
With apologies for the caps ...
I thoroughly appreciate the well-researched, -thought-out, and -tended essays on particular topics.
And: I also appreciate the drive-bys. Because even if the original poster doesn't have the time to do the above things, they've at least opened a discussion that C99 members can more fully flesh out in the comments. And they (we) never fail to deliver, every day. I learn so much from it. I think this is the definition of an "interactive community."
Please look up thread
To my comment to CS in AZ if you'd like to participate in the brainstorming.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Yes, I would!
Please include me in your PM.
I don't always have a lot of time to devote to research and writing, but I'm all in for baby steps ... and bigger efforts when I can.
That's all that is required
Baby steps. A small commitment from each of us to pull together a few paragraphs in our own essay to reflect our side so that others like us may feel they have a space to comment. In the brainstorming session we can discuss angles we feel comfortable with, or prefer to take in our writing. I think we may find a more liberating field of topics to write about than we initially anticipate. I already have some ideas brewing. Could be fun
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Thanks for igniting this.
I look forward to participating however I can.
@Anja Geitz I'm one of those
I'm one of those who hasn't been writing a lot. Part of it's depression, part of it's just that it's difficult to get a writing practice going.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I hear ya
I figure though, that if a few of us agree to post something, anything, once a week, our voices will be present for others, especially the lurkers, to come out and engage in a thread they feel comfortable engaging in. I don't have a lot of time, which is my obstacle, so the essays that I will write won't be very long. But as someone else brought up, even "drive-by" essays, will at least open up the discussion.
So, there's that.
P.S. I would love to include you in the brainstorming session, if I may, on angles we could take. I'm thinking about taking a very "wide angle" on the subject, so I think there will be room for everyone who does not believe in electoral reform to write an essay.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
@Anja Geitz That would
That would be great, zoe. Please do.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You've probably thought of this, but
sometimes essays are made up of links and a few comments; might not take up too much time to post a few informative articles/videos that you've come across/particularly like, and it might only take a few minutes to add an overview or other commentary?
Or possibly collaborate between a few like-minded people adding their experiences, strategies and views in maybe just a couple of paragraphs each,for a cross-section?
Just to get ideas/explanations out there - and start discussion - when pressed for time?
Edit: totally ninja'd, of course, just following your comment, lol. Glad to see that things are underway!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
That's very gracious of you, Ellen
I appreciate that very good suggestion.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Solidarity, babe!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Hey my brutha, thanks for all you do. Oh well....
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
So, uh, yeah.
There's no such thing as a fully rational human. We all have our idiosyncratic cognitive blind spots, both with respect to our beliefs, and with respect to our behavior. Yesterday, an incomprehensibly "successful" woman with a teenage daughter killed herself. The woman's sister tells us that this woman knew she needed help, but couldn't seek it out, because the publicity would damage her brand. Good fucking fuck me, the woman designed handbags and gladrags. FUCK THE FUCKING BRAND.
That said, my personal opinion is that a meaningful fraction of perfectly decent contributors to this website regularly engage in a particular kind of broken thinking that isn't just irrational -- it's delusional.
And you know what? I mostly just don't give a flying fuck. If someone makes a claim that is trivially disprovable, I will offer the refutation, and leave it at that. Otherwise, I will either ignore manifestations of fallacious opinionation, or state my straightforward opposing opinion and leave it at that.
I live in a nation in which more than half of my fellow citizens, including some who are very dear to me, comically believe that the whole fucking universe was created by a being that was/is somehow both quite a lot like our own broken ridiculous selves, yet capable of bringing into existence, in case you missed it earlier in this sentence, The Whole Fucking Universe, a being "who" takes a very personal, very human interest in each and every puny one of us, who when our physical body expires -- a physical body which is, I'm sorry to disabuse some of you, is the only manifestation of each us that ever was or ever will be, in all the times and spaces and universes that ever were or ever will be -- when that body expires, this extraordinary being will preserve the essence of the self that was quite obviously an outcome, however mysteriously, of that very body; and then either condemn that essence to some strange hell, or elevate it to some infinite and endless boredom.
I live on a planet where billions of human beings believe that same thing, or something similar and comparably preposterous.
So, if I can't let that slide, how can I possibly function as a member of this species? And if I can let it slide, well, what could possibly be worse? The only thing I'm not going to let slide is evil, which I won't define here, but I'll tell you this much: It tends to sacrifice human wellbeing and happiness on the altar of abstractions like Faith and Property and Tribe and Virtue.
As for delusions, you keep yours, I'll keep mine, and we'll whistle and go fishing -- on earth, though not in heaven.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Nothing to add but applause.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I'm here all week.
Remember to tip your server.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
@UntimelyRippd I see the validity of
I see the validity of your point. Not sure I can do that, though.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
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