@Amanda Matthews

Plus it affected US defense company's profits and European companies in general.

All made the same argument, the sources said: a squeeze on the largest producer of aluminum outside China would hit businesses around the world, disrupting production of myriad goods from car and planes to cans and foil, and putting jobs at risk.

Many were worried the measures could lead to the closure of those plants and businesses in their countries that relied on Rusal supplies, and the potential loss of thousands of jobs.

I have no idea what gives us the right to put sanctions on any country just because we say so. Why do we get to decide what rules and laws other countries have to follow? Just because we have the biggest and bad-ass-ed military in the world? For gawd's sake, this country is the biggest law breaker in the last century and no one even thinks of putting sanctions on us. Maybe it's time for them to start thinking about doing it.

Sanctions

a threatened penalty for disobeying a law or rule. punish, discipline someone for
"the penalties available to sanction crime"

The sanctions were the toughest the United States has imposed on a listed Russian company since Moscow’s 2014 annexation of Crimea. The notice on April 6 gave buyers a deadline of 30 days to receive supplies from Rusal before dealings in dollars were prohibited.

This is an effing lie! Russia didn't annex Crimea, the people voted to stay with Russia (or join them) after we overthrew Ukraine's government and installed Hillary's BFF.

Annexation

forcible transition of one state's territory by another state. It is generally held to be an illegal act.

Of course I could be totally wrong about this and if I am then hopefully someone will set the record straight.

I got a massive dose of steroids recently and my thought processes are totally eff'd up and floating somewhere in an alternate universe. Plus I'm very ornery. Can't wait til this shit filters out and I'm me again. The dawgs can't wait either.

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How Rusal escaped the noose of U.S. sanctions

On April 23, the U.S. Treasury eased restrictions on billionaire Oleg Deripaska's aluminum company Rusal. Instead of barring Rusal from international markets, which is what the United States originally intended to do, the Treasury suggested it might lift the sanctions altogether.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-sanctions-rusal-insight/how-rusal-...

How does this fit in? I cannot figure out what is going in here unless there was a little ‘friendly’ blackmail involved. You know, like maybe Oleg called up Booby and said “Gee, it would sure be too bad if the news got wind of our previous bromance...”

Got any ideas?

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@Amanda Matthews Zealots who are full of opinions and think they have facts that aren't yet actually available to the public are why I quit coming here.

It started out because most of us were banned from DKos due to our support for Bernie and our awareness of the issues with the DNC, which we vocally complained about past Kos' deadline and were banned as he promised. Now it seems as though crap gets posted here from conservative and biased right-wing sources and no one has the guts to call the posters out on it.

Quit pretending you actually know and have an unbiased understanding of what is going down at the moment, because you truly do not. None of us have all the information, but there can be some gestalt assemblage of a model of what is happening if one doesn't isolate themselves from it and only interact with the like-minded. Perhaps you would do better to not support the anti-Mueller Reich-wing talking points if you want actual change to occur. Mueller isn't perfect, the Dems are far from perfect (particularly the DNC and the DCCC), but the Trumpian/Pencers are horrid racists, misogynists, and fucking Nazis that need to be brought down immediately. Don't think that the irony of an old-time hippie, socialist, liberal hoping for the best from an ex-FBI director is lost on me, because it isn't; but if this doesn't work out, if he isn't unbiased and doesn't put country ahead of party, we are either utterly suppressed, with a boot on our necks forever, or there will be massive bloodshed in this country. I choose to look at this thing from all sides and hope that even the imperfections will not stop a progressive movement. Perhaps this is the wakeup call our country needed. Sorry if I offended you, but I was offended by the lack of critical approach to these very complex topics.

Perhaps I'll be on my way for another few months. Clearly I don't fit in here anymore.

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Show me where anyone here defined Mueller’s investigation? Also show me where it’s purpose was for anything BUT ‘collusion’ with the RUSSIANS! to get dirt on The Clinton Creature.

Get off your high horse. We know full well how this ‘investigation’ has spiraled out of control. And did you read anywhere in this post where ANYONE said our problems will be solved if Trump was impeached? Why no, you didn’t. In fact, impeachment wasn’t mentioned at all. Since you missed the point completely let me help you out. It’s about one of several conflicts of interest that Mueller has in regard to this fiasco for which the taxpayers are footing the bills.

I come back for five minutes after a few months and it's like a tiny echo chamber with a full-blast Marshall speaker trapped in it.

Let me be this FIRST to thank you for coming back and telling us how stupid we are.