Well the orange turd hearse classified the for attacking Syria last night. Congress can’t even see it!!!
We aren’t allowed to know why he killed those people. And here I thoughy it was because of a dubious chemical attack.
DONALD TRUMP ORDERED SYRIA STRIKE BASED ON LEGAL JUSTIFICATION THAT EVEN CONGRESS CAN’T SEE
ON FRIDAY NIGHT, President Trump ordered the U.S. military to conduct a bombing attack against the government of Syria without congressional authorization. How can this be constitutional, given the fact that Article I, Section 8 of America’s founding document declares that “The Congress shall have Power … To declare War”?
The deeply bizarre and alarming answer is that Trump almost certainly does have some purported legal justification provided to him by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel — but no one else, including Congress, can read it.
The Office of Legal Counsel is often called the Supreme Court of the executive branch, providing opinions on how the president and government agencies should interpret the law.
We know that Trump received a top secret OLC opinion justifying the previous U.S. strike on Syria on April 6, 2017. Friday’s bombing undoubtedly relied on the same memo or one with similar reasoning.
So while over 80 members of Congress wrote to Trump on Friday night stating that “engaging our military in Syria … without prior congressional authorization would violate the separation of powers that is clearly delineated in the Constitution,” their action has no impact. The military will rely on the OLC’s opinion that, constitutionally speaking, Trump’s orders were perfectly fine. And it will be quite difficult for members of Congress to argue otherwise, since they don’t even know what the Trump administration’s precise rationale is.
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/14/donald-trump-ordered-syria-strike-ba...
Somebody is going to have to yank Cheetolini’s chain.
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Nothing will happen.
So out of 535, we have over 80 that believe in the rule of law.
Yea......we're fucked.
I don't blame just trump. I blame our government for the last 60 years for where we are today.
And always remember "we need to look forward".
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Doesn't matter
The strikes were illegal according to international law. This type of action is supposed to only be used if our country was attacked or there was a threat to it. Congress asking him to wait until they authorize it doesn't matter either because of international law.
If congress is going to be making a big deal out of this then they are effing hypocrites because they certainly didn't say a damn thing about Obama's war crimes.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Yes,
I agree with you all, and especially about your comment, Pricknick, that "we need to look forward," meaning no consequences for lying to Congress, to the United Nations, and to the American people about slam dunk WMD intelligence to take the United States military to war in Iraq, to kill upwards of a million people, and to maim and murder thousands of young Americans who trusted our so-called leadership.
Because of this forward-looking trashing of our law, we are at it again, and again, slaughtering innocent people and putting the American people at risk of nuclear war, which we cannot win, which tells us whose side our leadership is on. Our leadership is on the side of Saudi royalty and Israeli ring masters, each of which uses religious extremism to excuse their commission of atrocities.
We are no longer in a democracy, if we ever really were.
Interesting times.
Now that's funny! I'm a proud atheist.
As such, in that respect, I am much closer aligned to Russia than I am to my own country.
If or not we ever had a democracy is debatable at best, as we currently do not have a democracy but full blown capitalism and all it can buy or take.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Actually, Russia has a State religion...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Unfortunately.
On the plus side, Russia has more belief in the separation of church and state than our so-called constitutional reformists.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
What do you mean by "state" religion?
There is no official state religion in Russia. Freedom of worship is guaranteed in their constitution since 1990. Also note that there are several dozen state supported languages as well as state supported ethnic schools. No other country in the world has such ethnic diversity being supported by the state.
Putin periodically visits with most of the major religious leaders throughout the country on a regular basis.
so true, yep./nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
CB, once again,
thank you so very much for this crucial information. The whole obnoxious intelligentsia premise is that Russia is still Communist. It's as if our mainstream pundit army fell asleep for a generation and has just awakened with a complete blank space where their minds should be.
During the years I was debating at dkos and elsewhere about public education, I eventually downloaded the Finnish National Curriculum. Our debate was over the false premise that Finland's teachers could teach anything they wanted and that there was no required curriculum. Baloney. Total baloney.
One of the most amazing things to me about Finland's National Curriculum, in addition to its size and depth, was that all students were required, under the topic of Ethics, to study religion, to spend a certain number of subject hours, starting in the earliest grades, studying their own family's religion, and if they didn't have one, studying ethics. In higher grades students studied comparative religion. In the Ethics curriculum, young children were taught such subjects as "The Golden Rule" and "Right from Wrong"!
This was several years ago, and I was aware that there was an effort to "reform" the Finnish curriculum, possibly by such media stars as Pasi Sahlberg, the Finnish educator who had come to work for the World Bank. Sahlberg made at least one video propaganda piece with teacherken at dkos, which I found to be insidious as hell. So by now the reformed curriculum in Finland may no longer teach ethics or anything else of substance, for all I know. But religion was alive and well in Finland at that time, and I consider that to be one part of their successful peaceful democracy. What I could gather from reading the curriculum was that the Finns considered religion to be part of the study of ethics, not booga-booga ritual and sources of hate.
There has to be some left over state religion from
the soviet days. I had a conversation recently with someone who grew up in Soviet Russia. I told him that I imagine work was easy to find under "communism" and he replied that it was illegal not to work. It was your duty to the state to work. That mindset must still be there in people's minds even if it's buried. Especially if they get nostalgic for Soviet times.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Under Stalin there was no particular state religion.
He allowed the three main religions at the time, Russian Orthodox, Islam and Judaism to operate provided they stay out of politics. They were useful in that they were, as Marx said, "the opium of the people" during times of distress and were all useful in controlling the people to some extent.
Here's some interesting articles for thought:
I'm sure it's complicated
Of course Russia has a very strong religious history from before communism.
Beware the bullshit factories.
That's true.
But that is also the centuries old history of Europe when the Pope had more power than the Kings and Queens. I would suggest that religion in the US had more power over the state in the last century than it did in Russia during the same period. In fact, the USSR and Russia have always been condemned as "Godless countries".
How many times do you hear the term "God bless America" after political speech in the US? What about those presidential prayer breakfasts and even the Pledge of Allegiance - "for one nation under God"? Or the military "for God and country"? Even on American money - "In God We Trust"? The US prides itself on being a "God fearing country"? And lastly, the obnoxious (to the world at large), "the shining city... a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace;". More than half of all Americans think the US has a special relationship with "God". This kind of crap led to genocide of indigenous peoples, Manifest Destiny and other horrors, including a rational for
attackingdoing God's work in the ME.I've never heard this kind of shiite in Russia. Or, for that matter, in 98% of nations in the world.
It is inbred in American politics: God in the State Constitutions
AMEN!
They have some history of religious persecution
Don't know about the Muslims (although I'm sure it was very prevalent), but I do know there were a lot of violent pogroms against Jews. I guess Stalin didn't have much to do with the Russians who corraborated with Nazi occupiers to kill millions. Stalin killing 30 million or so Russians and imprisoning many millions more doesn't quite fit into the religious persecution category but I think it should overrule any kind of moral argument made for Stalin. Colonists and Americans have done some pretty awful things to descendents of people kidnapped from Africa and to the indigenous people here, but that's no excuse for serious oppression in Russian history.
Beware the bullshit factories.
have you lived in Russia and if yes, when?
May be you are much closer aligned to your imagination what Russia is or was than to 'the real thing'?
All I would say these days is that I feel more threatened by the US than by Russia.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Me too!
Yes. Fascism is threatening life on earth, and fascism central is Langley Virginia.
One of the main tools of fascism
is the concept of "divide and conquer". This has been a major tool of the CIA and US military since either came into being. We see it being done on a grand scale and to great effect in the various ME conflicts.
Same old, same old. Lie, deny and stall or say it's Top Seekit.
Edit: anyway, he can't actually make it legal to run around attacking other people in their own countries, taking over their governments by proxy and wrecking/stealing their stuff, even if he could manage to make it 'legal' in his own, and the same goes for anyone else. It's still thuggery, theft and murder, even when you do it with a yuuuuge military which you've bled your people and country dry for, as have your predecessors.
He's still in defiance of international law and basic human moral and survival standards by running around attacking and invading other people/their countries and wrecking or stealing their property, and so are his lying, cheating, murderously bullying criminal buddies; no different from Hitler, which more people are beginning to point out, at long last.
Edit: should have known these points would have been covered better already; what I love about this place!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Cheetolini... lol Thanks. nt
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Don’t thank me. I stole it from somewhere.
It fits, doesn’t it? Stole this too:
DONALD TRUMP VOODOO DOLL
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
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